IRC logs of #boinc for Wednesday, 2009-03-25

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01:25 <FreeLarry58> &wx 98366

01:25 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: Temperature: 42.2F / 5.7C | Humidity: 85% | Pressure: 30.13in / 1020.2hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 3.5mph / 5.6km/h ; Tonight - Breezy. Rain likely. Lows in the mid 30s to lower 40s. Southwest wind 15 to 25 mph.; Wednesday - Rain turning to showers midday. Some clearing in the afternoon north of Seattle. Highs in the mid and upper 40s. (1 more message)

01:26 <FreeLarry58> &more

01:26 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: Southwest wind 10 to 15 mph becoming northwest in the afternoon.; Wednesday Night - Mostly cloudy. Lows in the 30s. North wind 10 to 20 mph.;

01:26 <FreeLarry58> and lots of snow for mountains

02:08 <XioNYC> &wx LGA

02:08 <Romulus> XioNYC: Temperature: 38F / 3C | Humidity: 45% | Pressure: 30.43in / 1030hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h ; Overnight - Clear. Lows in the lower 30s. North winds 5 to 10 mph.; Wednesday - Sunny. Highs in the lower 50s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph...becoming southeast in the afternoon.; Wednesday Night - Partly cloudy in the evening...then becoming (1 more message)

02:08 <XioNYC> &more

02:08 <Romulus> XioNYC: mostly cloudy with a slight chance of rain showers after midnight. Lows in the mid 30s. South winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent.;

02:10 <XioNYC> &8ball Is waking up overrated?

02:10 <Romulus> XioNYC: Maybe...

02:10 <XioNYC> &roulette

02:10 <Romulus> XioNYC: *click*

02:10 <XioNYC> Guess I won't nip off and shoot m'self then... g'night, all.

02:12 <efc> &eightball

02:12 <Romulus> efc: You know the answer better than I.

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03:40 <FreeLarry58> dang superlink seems to be getting continually attacked - offline again

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04:22 <FreeLarry58> well mb replacement started on vista machine - so far no major error messages

04:23 <ELGono> good luck fl

04:23 <FreeLarry58> will need it

04:23 <ELGono> what are u putting in new?

04:24 <FreeLarry58> mb replaceing flaky n650 gigabye with a asus p5q

04:25 <CoderForLife> morning folks

04:25 <FreeLarry58> morn CoderForLife

04:27 <FreeLarry58> cripes couldn't believe the difference in car insurance premiums the boy was quated for his new car

04:28 <FreeLarry58> farmers started at 180 then called to say 220/month - place i get insurance quoted him 103/month

04:28 <FreeLarry58> for one car 2 drivers

04:28 <CoderForLife> hmm

04:30 <CoderForLife> I need to re-do my house and car insurance

04:30 <CoderForLife> but first - breakfast!

04:30 <CoderForLife> brb

04:31 <FreeLarry58> k

04:31 <FreeLarry58> he's going to change his house insurance over to new company too

04:37 <CoderForLife> get a discount?

04:40 <FreeLarry58> house and car - normally get discount so his car should drop later

04:40 <ELGono> happy breakfast don

04:41 <FreeLarry58> he's not happy with frmers - think more to do with his agent being incompotent

04:45 <FreeLarry58> humm so far so good with p5q board vista running and has boinc going now

04:46 <FreeLarry58> bm don't look like they changed much if any

04:47 <FreeLarry58> well time for snak then bed

04:47 <FreeLarry58> &nn all

04:47 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

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05:34 <CoderForLife> time to get ready for w@#%

05:36 <Soul_keeper> good luck

05:40 <Soul_keeper>

05:40 <Romulus> <> (at

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06:21 <CoderForLife> back

06:21 <CoderForLife> I guess I was "lucky" in getting ready to go, Soul_keeper

06:21 <Soul_keeper> :)

06:22 <CoderForLife> so - off into the rainy darkness with me

06:22 <CoderForLife> laterz

06:26 <Soul_keeper> gettum !

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06:31 <hawmps> 'lo

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06:32 <Soul_keeper> good work hawmps

06:33 <hawmps> good work on whut?

06:34 <Soul_keeper> just good work

06:36 <Soul_keeper> Ha! wolfenstein ported to iphone

06:46 <Soul_keeper>   check this out, 4th game console with an arm9 cpu

06:46 <Romulus> Title: Zeebo (at

06:47 <Soul_keeper> arm11 ...

07:04 <Soul_keeper> somebody needs to wake up and keep me company already

07:07 <XioNYC> Boo!

07:08 <Soul_keeper>    lol

07:08 <Romulus> <> (at

07:10 <XioNYC> Looking back at all the cr@p I learned before high school, it's a wonder I gamed at all.

07:10 <XioNYC> How *did* we manage to have fun with 2D sprite graphics and a one-button joystick?

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07:17 <XioNYC> D'ja miss me? :-D

07:20 <Soul_keeper> almost

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08:07 <jackygrahamez> &wx 20001

08:07 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Temperature: 40.0F / 4.4C | Humidity: 44% | Pressure: 30.41in / 1029.7hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. Highs in the lower 50s. South winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Cloudy. A slight chance of rain in the evening...then a chance of rain after midnight. Lows in the upper 30s. South winds 5 to 10 mph. (1 more message)

08:07 <jackygrahamez> &more

08:07 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Chance of rain 50 percent.; Thursday - Rain likely in the morning...then rain in the afternoon. Highs in the lower 50s. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 90 percent.;

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08:56 <jackygrahamez> Hi Guys

08:57 <jackygrahamez> Yoyo[RKN] how you doing

08:58 <yoyo[RKN]> well

08:59 <yoyo[RKN]> somme slight problems with some yoyo@home results

08:59 <yoyo[RKN]> nothing big, hope to solve it soon

09:01 <jackygrahamez> I'm having a little trouble with GROMACS again. It seems to work fine as a workunit up to a point, I don't get these errors as a stand alone application.

09:01 <yoyo[RKN]> which errors

09:02 <jackygrahamez> Lets say I run a binary called mdrun with a certain set of parameters, it works ok both stand alone and in the slot...but if I use another set of parameters it fails

09:02 <jackygrahamez> I think it has to do with configuring the environment

09:03 <jackygrahamez> Normally you use a shell script to set variables...I was avoiding that by putting everything in the same directory

09:03 <jackygrahamez> so I get an error like this

09:03 <jackygrahamez>

09:04 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at

09:04 <jackygrahamez> I'm debating two ways to troubleshoot this

09:04 <jackygrahamez> either include a script to set the environment with the workunit or hardcode the relative file paths

09:05 <yoyo[RKN]> hmm

09:05 <yoyo[RKN]> no idea

09:05 <jackygrahamez> the directories would unzip under the slot

09:06 <jackygrahamez> I just want to ask, any argument against running a shell script to setup the environment? I would think it were better to have a hard coded directory path in the source code

09:07 <jackygrahamez> this is what the bash script normally does for stand alone gromacs

09:07 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at

09:08 <yoyo[RKN]> think you can run the shell script

09:08 <jackygrahamez> I was thinking there was an argument against setting system variables, that may be invasive

09:08 <yoyo[RKN]> variables in the shell script affects only chield prozeces

09:09 <Soul_keeper> so if gromacs is installed to /usr instead of /usr/local  is that gonna break ?

09:10 <yoyo[RKN]> you must adapt the shell script and send all gromacs binaries to the boinc client

09:10 <jackygrahamez> I will have to modify this script, I don't know if this can work with a relative file path or get the pwd at run time

09:10 <jackygrahamez> Its going to look a bit different if I go that route

09:29 <jackygrahamez> hmm I'm even more confused now

09:30 <jackygrahamez> I just copied a run that I did in cygwin over to another directory and tried executing it using windows command line and it worked!

09:30 <jackygrahamez> but if I follow the procedure up to that run in windows it will fail

09:31 <jackygrahamez> I'll have to play with this some more

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11:52 <hawmps> viola! new router.

11:53 <mweltin> I'm hardly new, or a router for that matter.

11:53 <mweltin> I love coming into the middle of a conversation on irc.

11:57 <MTughan> mweltin: No, hawmps just said that out of the blue.

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12:01 <mweltin> how are you doing MTughan?

12:02 <MTughan> Good, good.

12:02 <MTughan> My roomie's having trouble with C++.

12:03 <mweltin> ahahahaah

12:03 <MTughan> He wrapped a "while(...)" inside a "for(;;)" loop, and only broke out of the while.

12:03 <mweltin> too bad for your roomie

12:03 <mweltin> well no loop is truly infinite

12:04 <mweltin> sooner or later the power will go out, or the ravages of time will disintegrate the computer into dust.

12:04 <MTughan> lol

12:05 <mweltin> I hope your roomie can find comfort in that answer.

12:05 <mweltin> of course no one likes a smart ass when trying to fix a bug.

12:05 <PovAdct_w> heh

12:05 <PovAdct_w> reminds me of a program that said:

12:06 <PovAdct_w> "If you set the timeout to '0', it will wait indefinitely. (well, not indefinitely; actual delay is about 138 years)"

12:06 <mweltin> LOL

12:06 <mweltin> another gem from PovAdct_w

12:06 <PovAdct_w> but who cares? it's practically infinite

12:07 <mweltin> you pull out some great sayings.

12:07 <PovAdct_w> &quote add If you set the timeout to '0', it will wait indefinitely. (well, not indefinitely; actual delay is about 138 years)

12:07 <Romulus> PovAdct_w: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).

12:07 <PovAdct_w> bah

12:08 <mweltin> I understand only half of that error message.

12:08 <mweltin> if it weren't for MTughan and his script I'd still be an unregistered user.

12:08 <MTughan> He must be registered to add it. If he is registered, he should let the bot know who he is.

12:08 <MTughan> Heh.

12:09 <mweltin> that was the part I got, but the hostmask add wtf is that

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12:09 <MTughan> mweltin: Your hostmask is

12:10 <MTughan> Your nick is mweltin and you're connecting from

12:10 <LanUser> Hello - I just installed boinc for linux, must I be running boincmgr in order for it to be processing my project data?

12:10 <PovAdct_w> LanUser: no

12:10 <mweltin> thats cool, I learned something new today.

12:11 <mweltin> chances are I'll forget by tomorrow but today I'm KING!

12:15 <LanUser> Is there a way I can verify that I'm chewing on some project data with the "boinccmd" command?  All the switches I've tried seem to indicate that I'm not processing any project data

12:16 <MTughan> Is your CPU in use?

12:17 <LanUser> I have 4 cores and configured boinc just to use one, and I think I see it running with top (wcg_hpf2_rosett)

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12:18 <MTughan> wcg_hpf2_rosetta is indeed a BOINC application, from World Community Grid.

12:18 <MTughan> If it's using one core (probably 25% CPU), then BOINC is running.

12:19 <LanUser> MTughan: ok, thanks

12:19 <MTughan> The hpf2 there means that it's part of the Human Proteome Folding phase 2 subproject.

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13:00 <mweltin> useless meeting number 1

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13:46 <FreeLarry58> dang theres a bunch of trusting folks in my neighbohood - laptop sees 3 wireless connection points with out security set

13:48 <PovAdct_w> trusting or wi-fi-ignorant

13:48 <FreeLarry58> one knw enough to set ssid name anyway

13:49 <FreeLarry58> actually 2 but that one also set security - think my neighbor who i talk to about a few months ago

13:50 <FreeLarry58> vista machine seems to be stable - has ran since last night with out glitching out

13:51 <FreeLarry58> and yes i have tried to destabalize by playing games and surfing internet while boinc running

13:51 <MTughan> Wow... Story on Slashdot about a brain surgeon that suffered a heart attack while operating, but he kept going.

13:52 <FreeLarry58> so cast my vote to asus mb in vista war

13:52 <MTughan>

13:52 <Romulus> <> (at

13:55 <Soul_keeper> "Infinia has been around for a long time now.  In 1985, the company was founded by six University of Washington professors who hoped to commercialize a Stirling engine-powered heart pump, which never needed a replacement battery.  Unfortunately, the heat source -- a medically save tiny chunk of Plutonium-238 -- turned out to be the project's undoing, as the government feared terrorists kidnapping people to gain access the radioactive mat

13:55 <Soul_keeper> erial."

13:59 <FreeLarry58> fast wu

13:59 <Romulus> <> (at

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15:45 <PovAddict> Soul_keeper: wtf!

15:45 <PovAddict> if it's such a tiny chunk of plutonium...

15:46 <PovAddict> there are probably easier ways for them to get it than kidnapping people with heart pumps

15:46 <Soul_keeper> lol, you'd think

15:46 <Soul_keeper> big government gotta keep us "safe" tho ...

15:47 <PovAddict> clearly not safe from having heart problems

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15:52 <jackygrahamez> what's this about plutonium :-)

15:52 <jackygrahamez> :-S

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15:56 <Soul_keeper>

15:56 <Romulus> <> (at

16:01 <Soul_keeper> MTughan, did fwerp croak ?

16:03 <MTughan> Soul_keeper: He's still going, but only about 1000 a day recently...

16:03 <Soul_keeper> MTughan, you should find out where he lives and harass him

16:04 <MTughan> Earlier on, he was doing about 2K/day. Still not huge numbers. Not sure what happened.

16:04 <MTughan> lol

16:04 <MTughan> &seen Fwerp

16:04 <Romulus> MTughan: Fwerp was last seen in #boinc 1 week, 4 days, 1 hour, 25 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: <Fwerp> blart

16:04 <MTughan> &any Fwerp

16:04 <Romulus> MTughan: Fwerp was last seen in #boinc 1 week, 3 days, 22 hours, 45 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: *** Fwerp has quit IRC (Read error: 113 (No route to host))

16:06 <jackygrahamez> later B

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16:49 <MTughan> Well, I almost have a new fastest browser on my machine... I re-ran Chrome today, beat Safari 4's score. But then I re-ran Safari 4, beat Chrome's new score.

16:49 <MTughan> Safari 4 is now 54 points away from breaking 2000 in the benchmark. *cries*

16:50 <MTughan> (Talking about Peacekeeper, Futuremark's beta browser benchmark)

16:52 <PovAddict> and while they play with JS engines to improve the speed of web two-point-oh applicaishuns, I can't resize a window at a decent framerate

16:52 <FreeLarry58> thats ok MTughan ran bm on p5q and it bettered the score for memory and hd over the n650 mb i had

16:53 <MTughan> BM? BOINC Manager?

16:53 <PovAddict> benchmark

16:53 <FreeLarry58> nope the system bm for gaming on vista

16:53 <MTughan> What benchmark?

16:53 <MTughan> Ah, experience index...

16:53 <FreeLarry58> performance score?

16:54 <MTughan> Processor: 7.3; RAM: 7.3; Graphics: 7.9; Gaming Graphics: 6.8; HDD: 5.4

16:54 <MTughan> Actually, I might get higher on the HDD now that I have AHCI mode on...

16:55 <FreeLarry58> tried ahci and it didn't detect hd for some reason

16:55 <FreeLarry58> so left in enhanced and ide

16:55 <xcamel> 'lo

16:55 <FreeLarry58> lo xcamel

16:56 <MTughan> FreeLarry58: Yeah, that's because you need system drivers installed for the chipset to enable AHCI mode.

16:56 <MTughan> Hmm, still 5.4... Oh well.

16:56 <FreeLarry58> oh im so jealous MTughan most of my scores just under 6.0 with video at 4.8

16:57 <FreeLarry58> hdd at 5.9 here

16:57 <MTughan> FreeLarry58: That's also because Vista has a limit of 5.9 on the marks... xD

16:57 <FreeLarry58> memory 5.8

16:57 <MTughan> Win7 ups that to 7.9.

16:57 <MTughan> So any 5.9 marks you have for a component are probably lower than they should be.

16:57 <FreeLarry58> maybe if it the machine doesn't crash for a few months they may get me to try

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16:58 <MTughan> Notice I'm still maxing out Win7 for the graphics though.

16:58 <FreeLarry58> but vista has left a bad taste even if it was a flaky mb

16:58 <BadBarbarian> what bench mark are you all using

16:58 <PovAddict> BadBarbarian: the one built into Vista

16:58 <FreeLarry58> performance score

16:58 <BadBarbarian> oh

16:58 <BadBarbarian> nm

16:58 <MTughan> BadBarbarian: For system components, Windows Experience Index. For browsers, Futuremark's Peacekeeper.

16:58 <BadBarbarian> dont use vista

16:59 <MTughan> I have an idea... Which is faster: FF3.1b3 on Mac, or Chrome/Safari 4 in a VM on that Mac? xD

16:59 <BadBarbarian> xp X64

16:59 <FreeLarry58> lol only on one maching BadBarbarian

16:59 <FreeLarry58> most of mine either xp pro 64 or fedora flavors

17:00 <FreeLarry58> 2 machnes 32 bit xp pro

17:00 <BadBarbarian> x64 really is good to bad they got rid of it

17:00 <MTughan> You mean XP x64?

17:00 <BadBarbarian> yes

17:00 <MTughan> Vista x64 and Win7 x64 are still available.

17:01 <FreeLarry58> yes xppro x64 great

17:01 <BadBarbarian> i might try win7

17:01 <FreeLarry58> vista x64 on the one machine

17:02 <FreeLarry58> only thing i noticed after replacing mb with vista is it wanted to reactivate - activation went thru fine

17:07 <CoderForLife> home again

17:13 <xcamel> something gone wrong with MW?

17:13 <FreeLarry58> humm just sent some in didn't notice anything

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17:17 <CoderForLife> traffic was a mess in my little corner of the Milky Way on the way home

17:18 <xcamel> lol

17:18 <CoderForLife> you're probably referring to something else

17:18 <xcamel> not getting any work for one box

17:19 <FreeLarry58> ahh - have that problem too for a few days then it starts up again think its something to do with boinc scheduler

17:20 <CoderForLife> a temporal causality malfunction

17:20 <FreeLarry58> Results ready to send 823 low work probably due to all those gpu's grabbing them

17:20 <xcamel> most likely

17:20 <xcamel> it just got a few.

17:21 <xcamel> alarms off now.

17:21 * CoderForLife silences his local klaxon

17:24 <PovAddict> FreeLarry58/xcamel: what client version?

17:25 <FreeLarry58> 6.4.5 mostly but ealier *nix also

17:30 <FreeLarry58> humm noticed with the new mb on vista - vista using about 1 gig less memory

17:41 <xcamel> 6.6.15, iirc

18:10 <FreeLarry58> finally superlink back up - restart of client so can upload again

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18:31 <xcamel> back again... nice chilly walkies.

18:48 <xcamel> woah.. just passed 13 million.

18:50 <xcamel> brb

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19:13 <xcamel> &wx 12074

19:14 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 43.8F / 6.6C | Humidity: 38% | Pressure: 30.25in / 1024.3hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 3.0mph / 4.8km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear this evening...then becoming partly cloudy. Lows around 30. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph.; Thursday - Mostly cloudy. Rain likely in the afternoon. Highs in the lower 50s. Southeast winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of (1 more message)

19:14 <xcamel> &more

19:14 <Romulus> xcamel: rain 60 percent.; Thursday Night - Rain in the evening...then showers after midnight. Areas of fog after midnight. Lows in the mid 30s. South winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 90 percent.;

19:14 <xcamel> not too bad.

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19:54 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

19:54 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 56.8F / 13.8C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 29.81in / 1009.4hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers. Lows in the mid 40s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 40 percent.; Thursday - Mostly cloudy. Showers likely...mainly in the morning. Highs in the upper 50s. North winds (1 more message)

19:54 <CoderForLife> &more

19:54 <Romulus> CoderForLife: 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 60 percent.; Thursday Night - Mostly clear. Lows in the upper 30s. East winds around 5 mph.;

19:55 <CoderForLife> big "decision" meeting at w@#% tomorrow - the CFO needs to agree to the $411,000 software and services purchase

19:56 <CoderForLife> but better yet - I got my Arduino today, and it's running it's first program

20:04 <KathrynM> morning

20:11 <CoderForLife> morning

20:11 <CoderForLife> got my new little toy running

20:21 * CoderForLife thinks - some people have cats as pets, others have computers

20:21 <MTughan> I have both. :)

20:23 <CoderForLife> I now have a pet Arduino

20:24 <MTughan> lol

20:25 <PovAddict> not feeling well

20:25 <CoderForLife> sorry to hear that PovAddict

20:25 <MTughan> PovAddict: Because Rom wants to release 6.6?

20:25 <PovAddict> low blood pressure, sweating hands...

20:25 <PovAddict> MTughan: let's go blame him, yeah

20:25 <MTughan> xD

20:26 <PovAddict> my heart rate seems random too :/

20:27 <CoderForLife> I best not to use them all up at one time, PovAddict

20:31 <xcamel> re-hi, Don

20:36 <xcamel> hmmm..

20:37 <MTughan> MW splitting into "two" projects: one for GPUs, one for CPUs.

20:38 <MTughan> Soul_keeper: Apparently Travis will post the code that will be used for the GPU app.

20:38 <CoderForLife> hello Jay

20:38 <MTughan> Hey Don. And Jay too. ;)

20:38 <CoderForLife> hey Michael

20:39 <CoderForLife> well - time for me to go talk to the wife

20:39 <CoderForLife> need to do that every so often

20:39 <MTughan> :P

20:40 <CoderForLife> gn PeopleWithComputersAsPetsAndRealPetsToo

20:40 <MTughan> There's also a seperate thread for the CUDA app too.

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20:47 <MTughan> Original results:

20:47 <Romulus> <> (at

20:47 <MTughan> Rerun results:

20:47 <Romulus> <> (at

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21:12 <PovAddict> MTughan: splitting into projects??

21:12 <PovAddict> shows the client sucks...

21:13 <PovAddict> should give the user control on what appversion to get

21:14 <MTughan> PovAddict: Read about it on the MW forums.

21:14 <xcamel> it should give the user control over allot of things

21:14 <MTughan> I'll see if I can find a post...

21:15 <MTughan>

21:15 <Romulus> <> (at

21:15 <xcamel> especially real cache size and force fill

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21:53 <ComradeHaz> Hey guys. Is there a way to utilise my ATI GPU for general BOINC activity yet?

21:53 <MTughan> Only in one project.

21:54 <xcamel> milkyway

21:54 <Punky260> I only know about MilkyWay ...

21:54 <xcamel> and sort of..

21:54 <Punky260> yes, and it's not realy an official WU, is it ?

21:54 <MTughan> MW has just announced that they're splitting the project into two.

21:54 <Punky260> *App

21:54 <xcamel> not official app

21:54 <ComradeHaz> hmm

21:54 <ComradeHaz> shame

21:55 <xcamel> but they're working on it.

21:55 <ComradeHaz> my 4870's getting bored

21:55 <Punky260> sounds great:

21:55 <Punky260> First, my new laptop just came in the mail, so I'll be able to seriously start working on a CUDA version of the milkyway application. We'll be developing this for OS X, Linux and Windows.

21:55 <ComradeHaz> I don;t have enough time to game atm :)

21:55 <MTughan> They are working on an official CUDA app, and I think the source code for the ATI app has been turned over to the project.

21:56 <ComradeHaz> cool

21:56 <xcamel> that would be nice, Punky

21:56 <ComradeHaz> they have their own version of folding

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21:56 <ComradeHaz> indeed it tries to install it with catalyst

21:56 <MTughan> You should be able to follow most of the discussion here:

21:56 <Romulus> <> (at

21:56 <xcamel> well.. off with me.

21:56 <MTughan> xcamel: Your work address is still opped.

21:56 <MTughan> s/address/nick/

21:56 <xcamel> laterz.

21:57 <MTughan> Seeya.

21:57 <efc> night X

21:57 <xcamel> whutevah.

21:57 <ComradeHaz> hmm

21:57 <ComradeHaz> can they not use both?

21:57 <ComradeHaz> or at least can the client not sort itself out?

21:57 <MTughan> That's what I was thinking, but I don't know.

21:57 <ComradeHaz> hmm

21:58 <MTughan> But separating it out allows people to choose which one to run on a computer-by-computer basis.

21:58 <ComradeHaz> would be nice if the gpu could be used almost as a CPU

21:58 <MTughan> Well, BOINC thinks the GPU app is a CPU app. That's what makes using difficult ATM.

21:58 <ComradeHaz> although of course it can do some stuff better than others, so the client being concious of that would be neat :)

21:59 <ComradeHaz> aye

21:59 <MTughan> At peak, my 4870 1GB was doing about 70-80K/day though.

21:59 <ComradeHaz> hmm

21:59 <MTughan> It's currently around the 40K mark because of work shortages related to GPU app usage.

21:59 <ComradeHaz> on what process?

21:59 <ComradeHaz> ah

21:59 <ComradeHaz> yer

21:59 <ComradeHaz> I dunno what to run on it

22:00 <ComradeHaz> I don't really wanna install another manager

22:00 <MTughan> "on what process?" What do you mean?

22:00 <ComradeHaz> I tried putting on the ati folding thing and it screwed it all up

22:00 <ComradeHaz> I meant project

22:00 <MTughan> Ah, only MW has an ATI GPU app, officially or otherwise.

22:01 <ComradeHaz> uh

22:01 <ComradeHaz> what about Folding@home

22:02 <ComradeHaz> that supports ATI gpu's

22:02 <MTughan> It's not BOINC.

22:02 <Punky260> he means BOINC-projects ;)

22:02 <ComradeHaz> ah

22:02 <ComradeHaz> indeed

22:02 <ComradeHaz> am I right in thinking it was once?

22:02 <MTughan> I think it was, but others say it never was part of BOINC, so I'm not sure.

22:03 <ComradeHaz> hmm

22:03 <ComradeHaz> fair

22:03 <ComradeHaz> ahh well

22:04 <MTughan> Maybe this is what I was thinking of: "A development version of Folding@home once ran on the open source BOINC framework; however, this version remained unreleased."

22:04 <ComradeHaz> bedtime for me. Hopefully the missus is still awake :)

22:04 <ComradeHaz> nn :)

22:04 <MTughan> Night.

22:07 <Punky260> gn8

22:07 <Punky260> I should go to bed too ...

22:08 <Punky260> but less than 3 hours of sleep is worse than don't sleep ...

22:08 <Punky260> mhh

22:10 * efc has some smoked Gouda

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22:19 <MTughan> 'lo BB

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22:21 <BadBarbarian> hi MT

23:30 <jasong> Question:  Is David Anderson a student, a faculty member of his college, or what?

23:31 <MTughan> Apparently he's a research scientist.

23:31 <Romulus> Title: David P. Anderson (at

23:36 <jasong> Damn, I was hoping he was a student, then we'd have an approximate date that BOINC could be "freed from his tyranny."

23:39 <jasong> Hey, people, I have some files on a Linux file system that I want deleted, would it be easier to /dev/zero the hard drive for the 4-5 hours it would take to do that, or would it be fairly hassle-free to change the permissions and delete them directly?

23:39 <jasong> I'm talking about human labor here, if it's a ten minute thing to change the permissions, I want to do it that way

23:49 <MTughan> You're wanting to scrap a partition?

23:56 <jasong> yeah

23:57 <MTughan> GPartition or something similar might have an option for a secure wipe.

23:57 <jasong> ah, yeah, thanks

23:57 <jasong> I'll look into that

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