IRC logs of #boinc for Thursday, 2009-03-26

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06:03 <CoderForLife> off to the hinterlands - laterz

06:14 <ELGono> laterz don

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06:20 <Soul_keeper> Ok people

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06:37 <hawmps> uh-huh

06:38 <Soul_keeper> good work hawmps

06:59 <Soul_keeper>

07:00 <Romulus> Title: Imagebin - A place to slap up your images. (at

07:00 <TSPer> Title: Imagebin - A place to slap up your images. (at

07:01 <Soul_keeper> ohhh two bots

07:11 <Soul_keeper>  :)

07:11 <Romulus> <> (at

07:11 <TSPer> Title: ATI Radeon HD4750 | AMD/ATI Radeon HD4750 (RV740) (650MHz) / 512MB (3200MHz) - 2xDVI/HDMI - PCI Express 2.0 Preise und Daten im Preisvergleich (at

07:11 <TSPer> Title: ATI Radeon HD4750 | AMD/ATI Radeon HD4750 (RV740) (650MHz) / 512MB (3200MHz) - 2xDVI/HDMI - PCI Express 2.0 Preise und Daten im Preisvergleich (at

07:29 <Soul_keeper>,news-3688.html

07:29 <Romulus> <> (at

07:29 <TSPer> Title: Alien Found on Google Street View? - Tom's Guide (at

07:29 <TSPer> Title: Alien Found on Google Street View? - Tom's Guide (at

08:20 <Soul_keeper>   nice kernel benchmarks :)

08:20 <Romulus> <> (at

08:20 <TSPer> Title: [Phoronix] Benchmarking The Linux 2.6.24 Through 2.6.29 Kernels (at

08:20 <TSPer> Title: [Phoronix] Benchmarking The Linux 2.6.24 Through 2.6.29 Kernels (at

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08:32 <hawmps> anyone familiar with 'mce' errors?

08:33 <hawmps> machine exception code fwiw

08:37 <Soul_keeper> all i know is you don't wanna get them :)

08:38 <Soul_keeper> you got an overheating problem hawmps ?

08:39 <Soul_keeper> sounds fun

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08:46 <Soul_keeper> hawmps, what's going on, i thought you liked me ...

08:57 * Soul_keeper starts waving randomly

09:01 <hawmps> no, not overheating

09:03 <Soul_keeper> you looking to decode an error ?

09:04 <Soul_keeper> what cpu ?

09:04 <Romulus> hmm... what cpu is it running on, Soul_keeper

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09:48 <Soul_keeper> I get it. Thank you very much.

10:02 <Soul_keeper> have fun sleeping people.

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10:10 <ELGono> damn ... i thought i was too stoned or too tired last too days....  but somehow cleartype was turned off by updating graphics driver what caused blurry fonts

10:11 <ELGono> err two days

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10:20 <hawmps> Sphlitz!

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10:28 <jackygrahamez> hi

10:29 <jackygrahamez> &wx 20001

10:29 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Temperature: 42.0F / 5.6C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 30.10in / 1019.2hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 5.0mph / 8.0km/h ; This Afternoon - Occasional rain. Highs in the upper 40s. South winds around 10 mph. Chance of rain near 100 percent.; Tonight - Occasional rain in the evening...then a chance of rain after midnight. Lows in the mid (1 more message)

10:29 <jackygrahamez> &more

10:29 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: 40s. South winds 5 to 10 mph... becoming west after midnight. Chance of rain near 100 percent.; Friday - Partly sunny. Highs in the mid 60s. Northwest winds around 5 mph.;

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10:33 <PovAddict> MTughan?

10:33 <Romulus> Somebody said MTughan is compiling apps for Milkyway, PovAddict

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11:14 <jackygrahamez> ok so I'm still trying to figure out this issue with gromacs. apparently it works ok if it references its dependencies through variables, but not it has a little trouble when all the dependencies are in the same directory...I could either hard code the references or set variables at run time...I'm not sure how to set variables using a wrapper

11:15 <jackygrahamez> that is i don't know if its possible to use a bash script to do that or even advised

11:16 <PovAddict> environment variables?

11:16 <PovAddict> setenv

11:17 <PovAddict> or putenv

11:17 <ELGono> hehe just wanted to mention that one ;)

11:17 <PovAddict> not sure what's the diff

11:17 <ELGono> nearly drove mad on irix without setenv

11:19 <jackygrahamez> ok that is csh

11:20 <jackygrahamez> are you saying have the wrapper execute that?

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11:28 <jackygrahamez> yes it would be environmental variables

11:29 <jackygrahamez> normally the configuration runs through a source command

11:29 <jackygrahamez> is it possible to run source through a wrapper?

11:30 <jackygrahamez> I'm thinking it might be better to just hard code this in the source

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11:36 <jackygrahamez> hmm maybe if i execute bash and include the script in command line?

11:37 <PovAddict> putenv/setenv are C functions

11:37 <PovAddict> the wrapper can set an env variable using one of those, then execute the app

11:38 <jackygrahamez> so would putenv be listed in the job file as an application?

11:38 <PovAddict> no, change the wrapper code

11:38 <jackygrahamez> I see

11:40 <PovAddict> btw, anything you can do on a shell script you can also do with POSIX function calls in a C program

11:40 <PovAddict> even pipes

11:41 <jackygrahamez> but then you have compile :-(

11:42 <PovAddict> heh yep...

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11:51 <PovAddict>

11:51 <Romulus> <> (at

11:51 <TSPer> Title: The evolution of an extraordinary globe-spanning worm | The Last Watchdog (at

11:51 <TSPer> Title: The evolution of an extraordinary globe-spanning worm | The Last Watchdog (at

11:51 <PovAddict> MTughan should take that bot outta here

11:51 <jackygrahamez> well I figured out a way to do that with the bash but I could not confirm the variable was exported

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11:59 <jackygrahamez> amazing it works with the bash

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12:01 <jackygrahamez> i just have it run exports

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12:33 <FreeLarry> interesting superlink web pages up and server status shows running - wu upload after client restart - but cant fetch scheduler list to report completed

12:34 <Punky260> do you go via proxy ?

12:34 <Punky260> this helps 90% of time ;)

12:34 <Punky260> IP: Port: 443 =)

12:37 <FreeLarry> nope just thru household lan

12:38 <FreeLarry> they been having problems with ddos attacks - after reading some comments in various shout boxes and forums - maybe well intentioned people just wanting more work that they have set up scripts to continually contact them

12:39 <FreeLarry> but have set time too close together

12:39 <FreeLarry> they should let boinc be boinc

12:39 <FreeLarry> not another bot

12:40 <Punky260> ?

12:40 <Punky260> important is just how to fix the problem ^^

12:40 <FreeLarry> optimized boinc that they set time interval for updates

12:40 <PovAddict> people apparently wrote scripts to make boinc contact superlink every minute or even less (seconds) to get work, making the problem worse :P

12:41 <FreeLarry> they need to block those ip's until the scripts removed

12:41 <PovAddict> FreeLarry: not possible

12:41 <FreeLarry> i know - wishful thinking

12:42 <PovAddict> if you're being flooded with requests, and block the "bad" requests... they're still flooding the network connection before the block

12:42 <PovAddict> so good requests still can't get in

12:43 <FreeLarry> review logs - block a few offenders first restart - and continue till gets better - or monitoring program that reviews fequency of requests and auto blocks after a set # request/time?

12:44 <FreeLarry> slowly but surely blocking offenders?

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12:52 <MTughan> Shoot, forgot I got TSPer in here...

12:52 <MTughan> &part

12:52 <Romulus> MTughan: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.

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13:03 <mweltin1> man I hate managing people

13:04 <mweltin1> I take that back

13:04 <mweltin1> I hate tell people what to do and then hear excuses about it for two days and then go and do it myself.

13:05 <MTughan> Ah, sounds like the people you manage are like the people my dad manages... He's told me stories before.

13:05 <MTughan> He also has a boss who keeps giving him new projects to do. Apparently, she can't say no.

13:05 <FreeLarry> gave up doing that long time ago - i just tell them thier worthless

13:05 <MTughan> rofl

13:05 <PovAddict> MTughan: women who can't say no usually have lots of children

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13:06 <FreeLarry> can relate to second statement as crew on ship thought same of me

13:06 <FreeLarry> till i pulled them into private session for blowup and air cleaning

13:06 <mweltin1> what kills me is this guy is an ECE grad student.

13:07 <mweltin1> He is programming FPGA's with trained neural nets,and cant write a php script to delete directories older than 30 days.

13:07 * FreeLarry if i couldn't say no to some items there was the priority list - and a lot of things were always on the bottom

13:08 <PovAddict> what's ECE?

13:08 <mweltin1> electrical and computer engineering

13:09 * FreeLarry shakes head and glad hes not a programmer

13:09 <FreeLarry> to many fried nuerons here

13:10 <mweltin1> I'm glad Im not a project manager

13:10 <mweltin1> wait

13:10 <mweltin1> crap, I need a better job.

13:11 <MTughan> Like being a project manager?

13:11 <MTughan> [BOINC] project manager

13:11 <MTughan> ;)

13:12 <FreeLarry> have good day all - got to prep for my monday

13:12 <mweltin1> that is fine, I think it's more trying to get a  slacker to do something.

13:12 <MTughan> Monday already? It's Thursday today.

13:12 <mweltin1> takes more energy than it's worth.

13:12 <FreeLarry> that's what i said MY Monday

13:12 <mweltin1> later Free

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13:12 <MTughan> mweltin1: lol, no problems with that on a BOINC project, are there?

13:13 <mweltin> LOL

13:13 <PovAddict> FreeLarry lives in a different time dimension

13:13 * FreeLarry wishes - just different schedule

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13:46 <PovAddict> feeling like crap again

13:48 <mweltin> PovAddict: sorry man

13:48 <mweltin> I think you work too hard.

13:48 <mweltin> speaking of which how do I apply a patch AGAIN?

13:49 <MTughan> man patch

13:51 <mweltin> LOL

13:51 <mweltin> thanks MTughan

13:57 <PovAddict> vicious cycle

13:58 <PovAddict> i start feeling bad, get nervous, nerves make me feel worse

13:58 <Soul_keeper> [PLAYING] [03:17:107] Space Oddity .:. David Bowie .:. Singles Collection, Vol. 1 .:. Track 01

13:59 <Soul_keeper> that song gives me a headache

13:59 * MTughan is listening to Technologic by Daft Punk

14:00 <MTughan> lol

14:00 <Soul_keeper> [PLAYING] [00:50:224] 01 - Country_Club .:. Travis_Tritt .:. Country_Club .:. Track 1

14:00 <Soul_keeper> this one is much better :)

14:00 <MTughan> Never heard of Travis Tritt.

14:01 <Tidus> OLD country

14:01 <Soul_keeper> it makes canadian ears bleed

14:01 <MTughan> How do you get BOINC to reread cc_config?

14:02 <Soul_keeper> there is a menu option for that

14:02 <MTughan> Oh, I figured it out... I have to issue "Read config file" and then "Read local prefs file"... No wonder one alone didn't work.

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14:09 <MTughan> Ouch... Man in Britain was released after 27 years in prison for a murder he didn't commit. He was hit by a taxi soon afterwards, had to spend the night in the hospital.

14:10 <Soul_keeper> sounds like an idiot

14:11 <Soul_keeper> either that or he gets off putting himself in the wrong places at the wrong times ...

14:13 <MTughan>

14:13 <Romulus> <> (at

14:16 <MTughan> rofl... Mythbusters created an explosion large enough that it knocked out windows in a small town a mile away.

14:16 <Romulus> <> (at

14:19 <Soul_keeper> cool

14:24 <hawmps> lol

14:42 <FreeLarry> humm wonder if the socks stayed on

14:43 <FreeLarry> okay - car purchase contract went thru - just have to wait the mailings now

14:44 <FreeLarry> just think 4 glorious years of 425 per month payments and boy can call the car his own

14:46 <Soul_keeper> might as well make it a clean 500 a month

14:46 <Soul_keeper> get it payed off early and save the interest pain

14:47 <FreeLarry> true - when boy starts to pay me what he can afford figure it will go onto payments - i only obligated 425 of my own cash

14:47 <FreeLarry> hopefully get the car paid off in 3 yrs or less

15:09 <FreeLarry> my word those ecm use a lot of memory don't they

15:10 <FreeLarry> almost 600 meg and 680meg virtual

15:10 <FreeLarry> for same unit

15:13 <Soul_keeper> you running any cuda stuff ?

15:18 <Soul_keeper> just wondering ...

15:18 <Soul_keeper> wanna compare some things with someone

15:19 <ELGono> running seti cuda

15:20 <Soul_keeper> windows or linux ?

15:20 <FreeLarry> nope Soul_keeper haven't got the cash to afford the cards

15:20 <ELGono> win

15:20 <FreeLarry> linux

15:21 <Soul_keeper> ok nice

15:21 <Soul_keeper> ELGono, wanna try to compile a small app that shows how much video mem you're using ?

15:21 <FreeLarry> still need to figure out how to install the drivers for linux

15:22 <ELGono> sure

15:22 <Soul_keeper>           not sure how you compile things in windows, but in linux it's    g++ -o gpumeminfo gpumeminfo.c -I /usr/cuda/include/  -L /usr/cuda/lib/ -lcuda                   for me

15:23 <ELGono> will try later

15:23 <ELGono> need heidis laptop

15:23 <ELGono> no win dev installed here

15:23 <Soul_keeper> <Soul_keeper> ^^^^ Used : 278155264 bytes (271636 KB) (265 MB)             <- seti cuda

15:23 <Soul_keeper> <Soul_keeper> ^^^^ Used : 189747200 bytes (185300 KB) (180 MB)     <- gpugrid

15:23 <Soul_keeper> those are my linux results

15:23 <Soul_keeper> FreeLarry, drivers for what ?

15:24 <FreeLarry> nvidia for fedora 10

15:24 <Soul_keeper> that's easy stuff

15:24 <FreeLarry> dl'ed but haven't figured out exactly how to compile

15:24 <Soul_keeper> you just download the drivers from

15:25 <Soul_keeper> then run the shell script

15:25 <ELGono> MB_6.08_mod_CUDA_V10.exe 75652k

15:26 <ELGono> but bet thats system mem

15:27 <ELGono> think on windows it might be enought to include the cuda.dll

15:27 <Soul_keeper> no, that's just the size of the executable on your hard drive

15:28 <ELGono> lol no

15:28 <ELGono> was from taskmem

15:28 <FreeLarry> humm sorry Soul_keeper guess that was the wireless drivers i had dl'ed still need to do that also

15:28 <ELGono> exe is just a mb

15:28 <ELGono> not 75MB

15:28 <Soul_keeper> ok

15:28 <FreeLarry> tca

15:29 <Soul_keeper> i don't have much experience with wireless cards, but I always do things the hard way :)

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16:49 <mweltin> if anyone wants to use project management software DO NOT use trac.

16:49 <MTughan> Why not?

16:49 <mweltin> oh wait BOINC uses it

16:49 <mweltin> worst install ever

16:49 <MTughan> Yep, BOINC, Ohloh, couple other projects.

16:50 <mweltin> once it's but it's ok, but doing it from source is not fun.

16:52 <Punky260> ?

17:02 <xcamel> re-hi

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17:03 <MTughan> 'lo Jay

17:03 <xcamel> all problems solved with jeep now, and I now have voice control and hands free phone/VES operation.

17:13 <yoyo[RKN]> does anybody know what this exit code means on windows

17:13 <yoyo[RKN]> app exit status: 0xc00000fd

17:15 <MTughan> &google 0xc00000fd

17:15 <Romulus> MTughan: Search took 0.15 seconds: SVCHOST.EXE Application Error 0XC00000FD 0X76A9F4F9 100% CPU ...: <>; windowsce embedded vc Error code 0xC00000FD: <>; Error code 0xC00000FD: < (4 more messages)

17:15 <Soul_keeper> could be anything

17:16 <yoyo[RKN]> some ecm running big numbers, e.g. 50000 digits, crash

17:17 <Soul_keeper> maybe a stack overflow

17:17 <yoyo[RKN]>

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17:30 <Soul_keeper>,7394.html

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17:48 <CoderForLife> home again

17:48 <xcamel> good thing it  was still there...

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17:48 <CoderForLife> indeed

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17:52 <CoderForLife> closed a big software license contract today

17:52 <CoderForLife> time for a nice dinner

17:52 <CoderForLife> bbiab

17:53 <MTughan> If I'm overclocking, and it affects the clock, would the clock be too fast or too slow?

17:54 <xcamel> fast..

17:54 <MTughan> All right.

17:55 <MTughan> Odd... Someone in Orlando Florida requested that my password be reset on

17:55 <MTughan>*

17:56 <xcamel> ummm.. no.

17:59 <MTughan> I changed my password anyway, although not through the form.

18:00 <MTughan> It had been the same too long anyway.

18:00 <MTughan> California may pass a law to ban black cars.

18:01 <MTughan>

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18:01 <xcamel> sounds like someone is tinkering with their dope supply again.

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18:48 <PovAddict> 4 hours of waiting for the doctor

18:56 <CoderForLife> hmm

18:59 <xcamel> re-back

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19:22 <xcamel> cute little board..

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19:27 <CoderForLife> yeah - I'm going to build an alarm for my lift station

19:28 <CoderForLife> I designed one with discrete CMOS ICs, but this one wll be better because it's Code

19:29 <CoderForLife> currently hooking a piezo electric speaker to it to create an audible alarm

19:29 <xcamel> cool.. and it will call your cell phone...

19:29 <CoderForLife> yes it can

19:30 <PovAddict> i went to the hospital last night to be checked

19:30 <PovAddict> there was a bit of a disturbing scene...

19:31 <PovAddict> woman crying at top of her lungs in the middle of the corridors

19:31 <CoderForLife> disturbing hospital is redundant

19:31 <PovAddict> "he's gone" and "whyyyy?!"

19:32 <PovAddict> based on her later screams... I think her father had died

19:32 <CoderForLife> that's one for The Big Guy to answer

19:32 <PovAddict> I thought... condolences, but please go discharge your emotions *outside* -.-

19:32 <CoderForLife> heh

19:34 <PovAddict> my dad said "all sort of things happen here... people are born, people die..."

19:34 <xcamel> socialized medicine gives you the "warm, fuzzies"

19:34 <CoderForLife> but not all in the same place

19:35 <PovAddict> socialized?

19:35 <xcamel> government healthcare

19:35 <PovAddict> why do we always have to get politics involved...

19:36 <xcamel> that's not politics... it's suicide.

19:36 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

19:36 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 50.5F / 10.3C | Humidity: 78% | Pressure: 29.89in / 1012.1hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows around 40. Northeast winds around 5 mph...becoming east after midnight.; Friday - Partly sunny. A slight chance of showers late. Highs in the lower 60s. East winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance (1 more message)

19:37 <CoderForLife> &more

19:37 <Romulus> CoderForLife: of rain 20 percent.; Friday Night - Mostly cloudy with a 40 percent chance of showers. Lows in the lower 40s. Northeast winds 10 to 15 mph.;

19:37 <PovAddict> I never said it was anyway

19:37 <CoderForLife> March showers...

19:37 <PovAddict> family has health insurance

19:38 <xcamel> that is a good thing.

19:49 <PovAddict> xcamel:

19:49 <Romulus> <> (at

20:18 <PovAddict>

20:18 <Romulus> <> (at

20:19 * CoderForLife listens to his Arduino play Twinkle Twinkle Little Star

20:20 <PovAddict> lol

20:23 <CoderForLife> needed to connect the little speaker to the board - couldn't find the alligator clips

20:23 <CoderForLife> I resorted to wire wrap

20:24 <xcamel> retro-tech

20:24 <CoderForLife> retro-guy

20:24 <CoderForLife> got out the old wirewrap spool and manual tool

20:25 <CoderForLife> well - I proved that I can still wirewrap, so I'll call it a day

20:26 <CoderForLife> gn boinclanders

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21:31 <xcamel> 'lo Q

21:31 <xcamel> ltntt

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21:47 <xcamel> Apple releases iLife and iWork updates

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22:25 <PovAddict> scared

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23:02 <efc> Hmm, I wonder if my old custom client is going to have to go

23:02 <efc> for seti@home

23:04 <efc> doesn't do multibeam and astropulse, i think

23:08 <efc> 3/26/2009 11:06:47 PM|SETI@home|Message from server: No work sent

23:08 <efc> 3/26/2009 11:06:47 PM|SETI@home|Message from server: Your app_info.xml file doesn't have a version of Astropulse v5.

23:08 <MTughan> Try astropulsev5 instead of astropulse for the application name if you have an Astropulse v5 app.

23:09 <efc> I don't, thats the thing, haven't updated clients in quite some time

23:09 <efc> Really don't like messing with them much

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