IRC logs of #boinc for Friday, 2009-03-27

00:20 <jasong> Anybody celebrate towel day yesterday? (wed)

00:21 <jasong> (Douglas Adams)

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00:36 <MTughan_> Grr... Stupid switch.

00:36 <MTughan_> Windows BSOD'd on me, then the switch wouldn't pass through my DHCP request after restarting.

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00:46 <Tidus> blah

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02:35 <MTughan> roflmao!

02:35 <Romulus> Title: QDB: Quote #146656 (at

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03:38 <CoderForLife> hello

03:38 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

03:38 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 40.2°F / 4.6°C | Humidity: 90% | Pressure: 29.89in / 1012.1hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mist | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Overnight - Mostly clear. Lows around 40. East winds 5 to 10 mph.; Friday - Partly sunny. A slight chance of showers late. Highs in the lower 60s. East winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Friday Night - Mostly cloudy (1 more message)

03:38 <CoderForLife> &more

03:38 <Romulus> CoderForLife: with a 40 percent chance of showers. Lows in the lower 40s. Northeast winds 10 to 15 mph.;

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03:53 <MTughan> Wow... DCF on BOINC seems to have a lower limit: 0.010000.

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04:12 <CoderForLife> &social

04:12 <Romulus>

04:16 <MTughan> a?

04:21 <CoderForLife> that's what I was thinking

04:21 <CoderForLife> popular

04:22 <FreeLarry> humm CoderForLife i quess i'm not the big social outcast i thought i was

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04:23 <FreeLarry> &seen a

04:23 <Romulus> FreeLarry: I have not seen a.

04:23 <CoderForLife> It's all about you, FreeLarry

04:23 <FreeLarry> lol

04:23 <FreeLarry> and you CoderForLife and MTughan -- there joined up two more i think

04:24 <CoderForLife> I'm just here to provide entertainment

04:25 <FreeLarry> nope your here to keep us in line

04:25 * FreeLarry just has a box of lava soap for those dirty fingers that use nasty four letter words

04:28 <FreeLarry> take a look at prime test units and let me know what you think

04:28 <Romulus> <> (at

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04:45 <CoderForLife> I think that's a lot of numbers  =)

04:53 <CoderForLife> I also think it's Friday

04:54 <MTughan> True on both accounts.

04:54 <MTughan>

04:54 <Romulus> Title: Comics - (at

05:04 <CoderForLife> I also think I'll start getting ready for w@#%

05:04 <MTughan> lol, I haven't even gone to bed yet... xD

05:05 <FreeLarry> yeah just a few numbers - 64 bit comp.  have a great friday - after w/*-

05:05 <CoderForLife> enjoy the moment

05:05 <MTughan> Heh.

05:05 <FreeLarry> yah only tuesday for me when i get up

05:05 <FreeLarry> ;/

05:06 <FreeLarry> do like the credit granted by those units but a lot of variable time depending on machines

05:06 <FreeLarry> 2 to 6 hrs

05:07 <MTughan> Time shouldn't matter unless you're a micromanager.

05:07 <FreeLarry> lol not too much but i do clear out the machines frequently

05:08 <MTughan> How's the Vista machine doing?

05:08 <FreeLarry> older machines longer newer machines much faster but isn't that the way its supposed to be

05:08 <FreeLarry> been stable since the new mb put in

05:08 <FreeLarry> hasn't bsd once

05:08 <MTughan> Nice.

05:09 <FreeLarry> and using 1 gig less memory too - haven't figured out what caused that

05:09 <MTughan> My comp BSOD'd on me just a couple hours ago. Only the second time Win7 has done that. Not sure what it was this time.

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05:11 <FreeLarry> well lets see if i compare to the 650 board it could be anything from video, hd, nic, irq, clock etc.

05:11 <MTughan> Yeah.

05:11 <FreeLarry> another words the chipset not working well with os

05:14 <FreeLarry> well time to drift off to bed

05:15 <FreeLarry> &nn all

05:15 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

05:41 <CoderForLife> well - off I go into the wild blue Friday yonder

05:41 <CoderForLife> laterz boinclanders

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06:18 <TheGasGiant> Hi BOINClanders :)

06:19 <wdsmia> mornin Paul

06:19 <TheGasGiant> heya Doug

06:19 <TheGasGiant> been a long time

06:19 <wdsmia> long time no see

06:20 <TheGasGiant> true..I see you've been busy on MW

06:20 <KathrynM> tgif

06:20 <KathrynM> whoa.  tgg is here

06:20 <wdsmia> cant get enought work there to be busy

06:21 <TheGasGiant> heya KathrynM

06:21 <KathrynM> How's my favorite gas giant

06:21 <TheGasGiant> *wdsmia I know the feeling

06:21 <TheGasGiant> all well...just lamenting the hard to get work on MW

06:24 <TheGasGiant> &ping

06:24 <Romulus> pong

06:27 <hawmps_> Paul??

06:27 <Romulus> Somebody said Paul is talking about cultic or abusive and exploitative forms of sexual behaviour, hawmps_

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06:27 <wdsmia> nice talking to you Paul off to the shower then the salt mine

06:27 <TheGasGiant> g'day Jay

06:27 <TheGasGiant> k..cya

06:27 <hawmps> Hey!!

06:27 <hawmps> nutz..

06:27 <hawmps> ttyl..

06:27 <TheGasGiant> how's my favorite businessman?

06:27 <hawmps> good enough..

06:28 <TheGasGiant> business not turned down too much yet?

06:28 <hawmps> not too bad at all.

06:28 <hawmps> you?

06:28 <Romulus> hmm... you are upper fayl, hawmps

06:29 <TheGasGiant> all well to date...have enough work for 2 yrs

06:29 <hawmps> that works..

06:29 <TheGasGiant> just need to start thinking where the next job is coming from shortly

06:31 <hawmps> hopefully be out of this mess before 2 years are up

06:32 <TheGasGiant>'s a real mess

06:35 <hawmps> I

06:36 <hawmps> I've seen worse, and we got out of that OK

06:37 <TheGasGiant> on a lighter's your crunching going?

06:37 <hawmps> over 13M now

06:38 <ELGono> moo TGG & jay

06:39 <TheGasGiant> heya ELG

06:40 <ELGono> hope to hit 2.25M here this week

06:40 <ELGono> reentered seti with some cuda & SSE3 optimized

06:40 <TheGasGiant> should hit 5M in a couple of days

06:40 <ELGono> rac still incresing ;)

06:41 <TheGasGiant> almost 2m on MW thanks to the ATI card

06:41 <ELGono> damn

06:41 <TheGasGiant> oh yeah

06:41 <ELGono> need to visit friend with 48xx series card

06:41 <TheGasGiant> the ATI card is AMAZING on MW

06:41 <hawmps> it's making it so nobody else can get work....

06:41 <TheGasGiant> just need to get work now...getting hard to get since everyone is starting to use them

06:42 <TheGasGiant> lol...yeah

06:42 <hawmps> which sucks.

06:42 <ELGono> my deal is ... he gets my projector once a month for movie night, and i get his ati working mw for me ;)

06:42 <TheGasGiant> I've had to use an update script to get boinc to try and get work and overcome the exponential back off

06:42 <TheGasGiant> great deal ELG

06:43 <hawmps> it didn't work on mine - required too much babysitting.

06:43 <ELGono> yea thats what i'm worrying about, too

06:43 <ELGono> will need some attention on mw

06:43 <ELGono> and client

06:44 <TheGasGiant> the update script needs to be smarter....I'm not smart enough to write a good one...just a clunky update every x minutes job

06:44 <hawmps> bad enough workfetch has never really been fixed.

06:44 <TheGasGiant> try

06:44 <ELGono> at least i figured out to run seti as i want it to ;)

06:44 <TheGasGiant> true

06:44 <hawmps> brb

06:44 <ELGono> btw tgg

06:45 <TheGasGiant> ?

06:45 <ELGono>

06:45 <Romulus> <> (at

06:45 <ELGono> i finished my amp ;)

06:45 <TheGasGiant> how long in the making?

06:45 <ELGono> here some more pix of internals

06:45 <Romulus> <> (at

06:45 <ELGono> 3 month

06:46 <ELGono> actually 5 days of work

06:46 <ELGono> 7 days of planning

06:46 <ELGono> 2x 90W susy (super symmetric) balanced amplifier

06:47 <ELGono> using chipamps with regulated powersupply and just point2point circuits

06:48 <TheGasGiant> sound any good?

06:48 <TheGasGiant> get any hum?

06:49 <ELGono> best i ever heard so far from my experiences

06:49 <TheGasGiant> well done...must be pleasing to have done it

06:49 <ELGono> competing with real good classA ampfifiers

06:49 <ELGono> i'm still not really satisfied

06:50 <TheGasGiant> a true perfectionist!

06:50 <ELGono> included in internal channel seperated unbalanced to balanced line driver

06:50 <ELGono> wich sounds worse than d-i boxes using transformer for unbalanced to balanced conversion

06:51 <ELGono> but i still have some spare tubes

06:51 <TheGasGiant> you've lost me with the unbalanced to balanced talk

06:51 <ELGono> ;)

06:51 <ELGono> well there is still room for improvements

06:52 <ELGono> and some space left in case

06:52 <TheGasGiant> another month of planning?

06:52 <ELGono> phun thing is... next to this amplifier box runs the same indigo ... converting audio signals D/A

06:52 <ELGono> still running irix 5.3 ;)

06:52 <ELGono> nice twins

06:54 <TheGasGiant> sounds like phun...

06:55 <ELGono> well my 21" eizo screen died

06:55 <TheGasGiant> the CRT?

06:55 <ELGono> need anothe crt with 13W3 connector

06:55 <ELGono> for SGI

06:55 <ELGono> yep

06:56 <TheGasGiant> I remember when you got that

06:56 <TheGasGiant> you were pretty stoked

06:56 <ELGono> 1600x1200@100Hz on matrox card (real sharp picture)

06:56 <TheGasGiant> ahead of your time when you got it...2nd hand right?

06:57 <ELGono> yep we bought 23 of them ;)

06:57 <TheGasGiant> lol

06:57 <ELGono> and as i got the 8x vga splitter to test them all i had the right to choose the best one ;)

06:58 <TheGasGiant> sweet

06:58 <ELGono> it will really hurt to get rid of this eizo

06:59 <ELGono> even physically .... 46kg and 92 steps on stairs down

06:59 <TheGasGiant> ugh...a long haul

07:00 <ELGono> my back still remembers the day we got 23 of these on the trailor

07:00 <ELGono> and off again hehe

07:00 <TheGasGiant> eek

07:01 <TheGasGiant> hope you had some help

07:01 <ELGono> well it was the move that day ... when i lifted my screen on my desk

07:02 <ELGono> after that i used all 4 extremities for movement

07:02 <ELGono> for a week or so

07:02 <ELGono> hehe

07:02 <TheGasGiant> I'm surprised the desk didn't collapse

07:02 <ELGono> it did

07:02 <ELGono> some days later

07:03 <TheGasGiant> lol

07:03 <ELGono> remember when i set up my quadro screen desk?

07:03 <TheGasGiant> how many screens...

07:03 <TheGasGiant> k

07:03 <ELGono> with 3x 21" and 1x 19"

07:03 <TheGasGiant> nope...can't recall that one

07:03 <ELGono> freely configureable ... 1-3 desk win / 1-2 desk linux and 1 irix

07:04 <ELGono> all with one keyboard and mouse

07:04 <ELGono> that was really cool

07:04 <ELGono> until the desk collabsed

07:04 <TheGasGiant> d'oh

07:05 <ELGono> LCDs have some advantages hehe

07:05 <TheGasGiant> lol....

07:07 <TheGasGiant> I'm still using a 17" LCD I got 3 or 4 years ago (I think)

07:07 <TheGasGiant> at home that is

07:07 <TheGasGiant> at w#$^, I've got 2 * 22" widescreens

07:08 <ELGono> heidi bought a nice 19" last year and is not using it

07:08 <ELGono> hope to get the acer laptop of her parents back from repair .... she'll change laptops with them

07:09 <ELGono> mathlab is sucking too much resources

07:09 <TheGasGiant> sweet, what are you using mathlab for?

07:10 <TheGasGiant> The first F1 is on this weekend....could hear the practice sessions from my home

07:10 <ELGono> heidi is... she's writing her final thesis at uni (yea she overtook me hehe)

07:11 <TheGasGiant> lol

07:11 <ELGono> she implementing driving and gearshifting for a 3d driving simulator

07:11 <ELGono> using 6 projectors in a 135° screen wall

07:12 <ELGono> and 256 speaker for audio

07:12 <TheGasGiant> holy cow

07:12 <TheGasGiant> that'd tax most cpu's

07:12 <ELGono> hehe whole system has 16 maschines

07:12 <ELGono> 9 dual xeons for audio

07:13 <TheGasGiant> 256 speakers are needed why?

07:13 <ELGono> 2 for simulation 2 for virtual world and 4 for rendering

07:14 <ELGono> must correct

07:14 <ELGono> 192 speakers

07:14 <ELGono> wave field synthesis

07:15 <ELGono> you are surrounded by speakers ... and each speaker has it's own amplifier .... you can map speakers to groups

07:15 <ELGono> to create wave fields

07:15 <ELGono> so the "sweet spot" is as big as you want

07:15 <TheGasGiant> ahhh!

07:15 <ELGono> we also have a cinema in ilmenau with that technique

07:16 <ELGono> was developed here in ilmenau at fraunhofer institute

07:16 <ELGono> called iosono

07:16 <hawmps> computer controlled sound shaping

07:16 <TheGasGiant> sounds impressive overall

07:16 <ELGono>

07:16 <Romulus> Title: IOSONO Technology (at

07:17 <hawmps> loosely based on THX, right?

07:17 <ELGono> nope another approach

07:17 <hawmps> ah..

07:17 <ELGono> but there are converter for dolby and thx

07:17 <ELGono> they are used in the cinema

07:17 <TheGasGiant>'ve given me that link before!

07:18 <ELGono> they do it there with 8 pc's

07:18 <ELGono> creating 192 channels from 5.1 / 7.1 / 10.1 dolby/thx

07:18 <ELGono> realtime

07:19 <TheGasGiant> sounds expensive!

07:19 <ELGono> they also developed a system to create iosono wave fields with metadate from camera-set

07:19 <TheGasGiant> and impressive

07:19 <TheGasGiant> love to hear it in action

07:19 <ELGono> and tried to impress hollywood

07:20 <ELGono> prof. brandenburg was over there

07:20 <ELGono> chief of institute here in ilmenau .... he also had his hands on development of mp3 codec

07:21 <ELGono> and now they combined that iosono sound system with and 3D projection system

07:21 <TheGasGiant> sounds like a centre of excellence

07:22 <ELGono> wich is pretty fancy

07:22 <TheGasGiant> very

07:22 <ELGono> but implementing something is !§$%§

07:22 <ELGono> :)

07:23 <TheGasGiant> good stuff!

07:23 <ELGono> mathlab, simulink and a dozend of other softwares ... linux/windows system mix

07:23 <TheGasGiant> time for me to hit the sack

07:23 <ELGono> laterz TGG

07:24 <TheGasGiant> later mate....stay well!

07:24 <ELGono> and have some phun with F1

07:24 <ELGono> :)

07:24 <TheGasGiant> yep...!

07:24 <TheGasGiant> &bye

07:24 <Romulus> later ace

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11:55 <MTughan> Win7 RC to be released in May.

11:56 <MTughan>

11:56 <Romulus> <> (at

11:57 <Soul_keeper> i thought they already released that thing ...

11:57 <MTughan> They released Win7 Beta. This is the RC.

11:59 <Soul_keeper> k

11:59 <Soul_keeper> any good boinc news lately ?

11:59 <MTughan> Wow... Intel sued Nvidia over licensing agreements, saying the agreement doesn't allow Nvidia to build chipsets for processors with memory controllers (Nehalem).

12:00 <MTughan> Nvidia has countersued to revoke that agreement, and possible Intel's agreement with Nvidia for GPUs.

12:00 <Soul_keeper> yeah i told you that like a week or two ago

12:00 <MTughan> The second part?

12:00 <Soul_keeper> i believe so

12:00 <Soul_keeper> intel is bossing everyone around now

12:01 <MTughan> Yes, but did you see the part that Nvidia countersued?

12:01 <Soul_keeper> maybe not

12:01 <MTughan> You couldn't've, the press release was only yesterday.

12:01 <MTughan> They've done it though.

12:01 <MTughan>

12:01 <Romulus> Title: Nvidia countersues Intel over chipset license - The Tech Report (at

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12:02 <Soul_keeper> yeah guess i didn't hear that one

12:04 <jackygrahamez> hi I asked what seemed like a simple question in the cygwin chanel and I probably opened a can of worms

12:05 <MTughan> Related to Cygwin, or a philosophical question?

12:05 <jackygrahamez> oh the licenses under GPLv2 and how I am going to make the source available

12:05 <jackygrahamez> according to them I need to include the source in my distribution

12:06 <jackygrahamez> So I asked about whether we can just have a file offering a download from a server

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12:07 <MTughan> You'll need to include a readme file with the distribution, but yes, you can have the source just available on the server.

12:07 <MTughan> Cygwin code is GPL'd, not LGPL'd?

12:07 <jackygrahamez> ok I like that interpretation much more and I'm sure the project volunteers are happy with that

12:08 <jackygrahamez> by server, do you think it should be my own or the cygwin mirrors?

12:08 <MTughan> Doesn't matter, but you'll have to include a note in the readme saying where it is.

12:08 <jackygrahamez> great

12:09 <MTughan> Preferably, it should be at the place where it's being developed.

12:09 <jackygrahamez> I'll just ignore what that guy had to say because he is not opperating a distributed computing project

12:09 <MTughan> Well, I've downloaded just the binaries of lots of GPL software.

12:09 <jackygrahamez> and may not comprehend the implications of that interpretation

12:10 <MTughan> Plus, the license just says you have to make the source available. Plenty of projects do what I just said, because it's convenient for both users and devs.

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12:11 <PovAddict> MTughan: making source available isn't enough; it also has to be under GPL-compatible terms

12:12 <MTughan> Yeah, I know... Shoot, I just assumed that.

12:13 <Soul_keeper>

12:13 <Romulus> Title: GNU General Public License - Free Software Foundation (at

12:18 <PovAddict> unrar probably can't be compiled with cygwin and distributed, for example

12:19 <MTughan> I'll try and catch him when he joins next.

12:20 <Soul_keeper>   that would be a cushy job

12:20 <Romulus> Title: Systems Administrator for the Electronic Frontier Foundation (mission district, San Francisco, CA) - Free Software Foundation (at

12:20 <PovAddict> I'm interested in contacting licensing@fsf about boinc

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12:21 <PovAddict> science apps seem like a bit of a gray area, since they run quietly in the background... are crunchers considered "users" of such apps? how would they be notified of the license? should science apps bundle source code? (seems like a waste) etc

12:21 <MTughan> I contacted them about Synecdoche and the APSL... Never got a response.

12:21 <Soul_keeper> you don't have to bundle anything

12:22 <MTughan> Sent March 7.

12:22 <Soul_keeper> you just have to have the source code somewhere on your website if you are hosting the binaries and claim GPL license

12:23 <Soul_keeper> so any potential user of your science apps, should they desire, be able to obtain the source code

12:23 <PovAddict> devil in details

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12:24 <MTughan> 'lo mweltin

12:27 * Soul_keeper really likes GPL

12:27 <MTughan> Hmm, no yoyo[RKN]... Had a question about WUs.

12:28 <mweltin> hey MTughan

12:33 <mweltin> Mornin' PovAddict

12:33 <MTughan>

12:33 <Romulus> Title: QDB: Quote #11042 (at

12:33 <mweltin> I feel like that all the time.

12:33 <MTughan> lol

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12:37 <Soul_keeper>   FAIL!

12:37 <Romulus> <> (at

12:38 <MTughan> jackygrahamez: One thing I neglected that PovAddict reminded me of.

12:38 <MTughan> You have to make the source available, but it also has to be under a GPL-compatible license.

12:39 <jackygrahamez> source...which source the cygwin?

12:40 <MTughan> No, the program source.

12:40 <jackygrahamez> the cygwin is GLPv2

12:40 <jackygrahamez> the scientific app?

12:40 <Romulus> I guess the scientific app is not fully developed, jackygrahamez

12:40 <MTughan> What program do you link against Cygwin?

12:40 <MTughan> Yeah, the science app.

12:40 <jackygrahamez> GROMACS is GPL too

12:40 <jackygrahamez> as well

12:40 <MTughan> Is that the only one you're using Cygwin for?

12:42 <jackygrahamez> I have to double check the other apps, but all the code is open...I know that does not mean they are GPL

12:42 <MTughan> Doesn't mean they have to be GPL, just GPL compatible.

12:42 <MTughan> Hold on, I'll find you a list.

12:43 <MTughan>

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12:50 <mweltin> how lazy am I?  I just started a VM so I could use a mysql gui tool to add a user to my database.

12:51 <MTughan> Is the DB on the VM?

12:51 <mweltin> no

12:51 <mweltin> the mysql tools I have don't work in linux.

12:51 <mweltin> well they say they do with QT but they dont' you need gnome

12:52 <mweltin> and I'm not going to go through that install.

12:52 <MTughan> Well, I don't know that I'd call booting a VM to use a GUI tool lazy.

12:53 <MTughan> You had to set up the VM in the first place.

12:53 <MTughan> You're just striving for convenience.

12:53 <mweltin> true

12:53 <jackygrahamez> everything I distrubute is GPL

12:53 <MTughan> jackygrahamez: All right, you're good then. ;)

12:53 <mweltin> I feel beter now MTughan

12:53 <mweltin> you should go into psychology

12:55 <jackygrahamez> People can download them on their own AutoDock, GROMACS, Quantum Espresso and CP2K. There websites contain licenses saying GPL. I should probably include a readme file to give links to these sites.

12:55 <MTughan> Or include links to the sites on your site.

12:55 <jackygrahamez> we can do both

12:58 <MTughan> xcamel: Do you know who "a" is on the #boinc social image?

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13:10 <MTughan> yoyo[RKN]: What happened with the credits on this WU?

13:10 <Romulus> <> (at

13:11 <MTughan> Considering this WU ran shorter and got more credits:

13:11 <Romulus> <> (at

13:11 <yoyo[RKN]> moin, wait, just came in

13:11 <yoyo[RKN]> first I need coffee

13:11 <MTughan> lol

13:11 <mweltin> morn'

13:12 <MTughan> Curious... hashit

13:12 <wdsmia> asks MTughan to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.

13:13 <MTughan> That could be hash-it.

13:13 <yoyo[RKN]> MTughan : its one of the new long numbers with very short b1, which is now in beta testing

13:13 <MTughan> Ah, a beta WU. Okay.

13:13 <MTughan> Essentially. :P

13:13 <yoyo[RKN]> have to think about my credit formula

13:13 <yoyo[RKN]> or just add 3 credits, which should not be a big problem for big wus

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13:30 <MTughan> wb yoyo[RKN]

13:30 <yoyo[RKN]> reconfigured my wlan

13:31 <Soul_keeper> [PLAYING] [00:31:181] Johnny Cash - Ring Of Fire

13:31 <MTughan> SRV here...

13:31 <MTughan> "Live at the El Mocambo"

13:36 <ELGono> np: Beastie Boys - Sure Shot -- 0:07

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15:25 <Soul_keeper> MTughan,

15:25 <Romulus> <> (at

15:25 <MTughan> F***ing finally...

15:27 <Soul_keeper> did you catch the bit about the president of kronos group being an nvidia employee ?

15:27 <MTughan> "Previously, looking at things like Folding@home, ATI GPU computing performance seems to be behind Nvidia. That probably reflects the fact that their GPU computing solution is probably a couple of generations behind ours."

15:27 <MTughan> I'd bet that the Folding app doesn't use the GPU fully...

15:27 <MTughan> And no, I didn't.

15:27 <Soul_keeper> this would be impressive, i'm looking at it from the point of view that opencl itself would be advanced more

15:28 <Soul_keeper> can't port something to something that doesn't fully exist yet

15:28 <PovAddict> "It should be noted that jumping off tall structures has never killed anyone"

15:28 <MTughan> How tall?

15:28 <PovAddict> "it is hitting the hard stuff at the bottom of said structures that usually causes the problem..."

15:28 <MTughan> Ha.

15:29 <PovAddict> "I've never heard anyone who jumped off of a 70-foot building complain about it."

15:30 <Soul_keeper> :)

15:32 <Soul_keeper> looks like amd is putting the 9.3 linux cats on their website right now

15:32 <Soul_keeper> there was a link to them on the phoronix forums, and getting a timeout to the amd drivers section

15:33 <Soul_keeper> excellent

15:33 <CoderForLife> home again

15:34 <PovAddict>

15:34 <Romulus> Title: Wikipedia:Whacking with a Wet Trout - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at

15:37 <Soul_keeper> good work

15:39 <CoderForLife> outside for 1st grass cutting of the year

15:39 <CoderForLife> bbl

15:40 <Soul_keeper> i just did that :)

15:40 <Soul_keeper> was the 3rd or 4th of the year here tho

15:44 <Soul_keeper> PovAddict, you every been to mccdonald land ?

15:44 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - McDonald's (at

15:46 <jackygrahamez> PovAddict what's this about the trout?? :-)

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15:49 <jackygrahamez> Now if only I could dub in Rick Astley music to the mcdonalds video

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15:52 <Soul_keeper> lol

15:53 <efc> moo

15:59 <CoderForLife> back - done with the front and side 40s

16:00 <FreeLarry> so einstien joins superlink in being down

16:00 <CoderForLife> whew!  that grass mowing here takes so long

16:01 <FreeLarry> and as you age it seems to get longer - from experience

16:01 <CoderForLife> about as long as sorting all the first class mail these days

16:01 <wdsmia_w> mowing lol snow tomarrow

16:01 <Soul_keeper> that's why you have to enjoy it, like hank hill

16:01 <FreeLarry> lol no thats fast - but the bulk mail and parcels take some time

16:02 <CoderForLife> I can barely get the lawn mower turned around in the front yard before the grass is all cut

16:02 <FreeLarry> possible here in am to wdsmia

16:02 <FreeLarry> by the time i finish one pass here its time to start again on the grass

16:02 <CoderForLife> looks like I did some LHC today

16:03 <FreeLarry> yup they passed some out last night

16:03 <FreeLarry> and pirates also

16:03 <CoderForLife> I passed out last night

16:03 <FreeLarry> same - noticed them this am when the phone woke me

16:04 <CoderForLife> I saw one ready to report when I got home

16:04 <FreeLarry> ah my there will be screqaming -- milky down too

16:05 <efc> Somebody got their LHC back to operational.

16:05 <Romulus> <> (at

16:05 <MTughan> Whoa, WTF? 3/27/2009 4:05:05 PM|Milkyway@home|Scheduler request failed: HTTP file not found

16:05 <MTughan> All the files on the MW give 404.

16:06 <PovAddict> fail

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16:07 <xcamel> 'lo

16:08 <MTughan> MW down.

16:09 <xcamel> uh-huh

16:11 <efc> Hmm, maybe I need to refresh my s@h setup while they're on the fritz

16:11 <MTughan> Soul_keeper: Maybe this was by design, but did you know that all the point values in your chart are off by 10x?

16:12 <Soul_keeper> hmm

16:12 <MTughan> I'd noticed it before, but never gave it any thought.

16:12 <Soul_keeper> ohhh

16:12 <Soul_keeper> yeah i hadn't even noticed

16:12 <MTughan> Yeah, 180000 actually means 1.8m at the top. :P

16:15 <Soul_keeper> there we go

16:15 <MTughan> All right, that's a little easier to read now. Thanks!

16:20 <MTughan> Off for a bit... bbl

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16:24 <CoderForLife> re-hi

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16:25 <efc> Are the seti@home stock clients better optimized now? Well enough I need not bother getting custom ones?

16:26 <CoderForLife> an excellent question

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16:43 <efc> Seems like I'd heard a lot of improvements had been rolled back in

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16:49 <xcamel> re-back

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17:37 <CoderForLife> re-back-2

17:40 <Rookie_69> Someone is alive! Hi, Don.

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17:41 * CoderForLife pinches himself

17:41 <CoderForLife> ow!

17:41 <CoderForLife> seems so

17:41 <MTughan> lol

17:41 <xcamel> 'lo Glenn

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17:41 <Rookie_69> I said alive, not awake.

17:41 <xcamel> and Mike & Don

17:41 <Rookie_69> Hi, Jay.

17:41 <CoderForLife> see?  the gang's all here Glenn - fear not

17:41 <Rookie_69> Hi, Michael.

17:42 <wdsmia> re-hi

17:42 <Rookie_69> Hi, Doug.

17:42 <CoderForLife> hello xcamel MTughan wdsmia mweltin Rookie_69

17:42 <Rookie_69> Hi, John-Boy.

17:42 <MTughan> At least you didn't do a bighello.

17:42 <wdsmia> &bighello

17:42 <Romulus> Hello Aeternus, Aruzo, Celelibi, CoderForLife, ComradeHaz, deprecated, desti, DrBashir, efc, ELGono, Eythan, FreeLarry, infinisoft, jasong, KathrynM, Lorvija, mchelen, mchelen1, MTughan, mweltin, PieSpyRom, PovAddict, quail, Romulus, Rookie_69, sigmund_, Soul_keeper, stux|RC-only, Tidus, Turf, up365, wdsmia, xcamel, XioNYC, yoyo[RKN], and zombie67

17:42 <MTughan> I was saying...

17:42 <Soul_keeper> good work

17:42 <mweltin> hey CFL

17:42 <mchelen1> -_-

17:42 <CoderForLife> I thought about it, but rejected the idea as being very obnoxious

17:42 <mweltin> howis life

17:43 <infinisoft> hi

17:43 <mweltin> never reject an idea just because it's obnoxious

17:43 <MTughan> Of course the op does it... Anyone willing to criticise him?

17:43 <MTughan> wdsmia: Not needed!

17:43 <CoderForLife> I think I just did =)

17:43 <CoderForLife> hey mchelen1

17:44 <xcamel> Iran Native Copied, Transferred Nuclear Software While Employed At Largest U.S. Reactor

17:45 <Rookie_69> Not The op... Just an op.

17:45 <xcamel>

17:45 <Romulus> <> (at

17:45 <wdsmia> MTughan PMS'ing again?

17:45 <xcamel> must be..

17:45 <MTughan> Not PMS... Maybe PES.

17:46 <wdsmia> pennis envy syndrom?

17:46 <MTughan> Pre-exam syndrome.

17:46 <CoderForLife> they must have stored that software alongside the plans for Marine One

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17:46 <Soul_keeper>   yeah no way mac won that one

17:46 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Get a Mac - Feat. Mr.Bean (at

17:46 <efc> i'm not sure 'nuclear software' would be much use on another facility

17:47 <mweltin> hahahaah p.e.s

17:47 * XioNYC pongs back at wdsmia's &bighello

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17:54 <mchelen1> heya CoderForLife

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17:56 <CoderForLife> k'plagh

17:56 <wdsmia> K'aboom

17:57 * Rookie_69 asks Coder to please watch his/her language...

17:57 <CoderForLife> Sorry if you find my mid-westerm Klingon accent offensive

17:58 <Rookie_69> Lol.

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17:58 <CoderForLife> k'aboom is the opposite of k'plagh, and is without honor

17:58 <efc> No honor? Frak that.

18:00 <mweltin> frak? someone watches too much battlestar.

18:00 <efc> Haven't watched it for yahren.

18:01 <CoderForLife> All this has happened before

18:02 <Rookie_69> I think that "I grok Spock." would be the classic SF mixed metaphor...

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18:02 <mweltin> hahaha I love it!

18:03 <mweltin> something about a mixed metaphor is just wonderful, and that takes it to the next and inevitably geeky level.

18:05 * MTughan is listening to Television Rules the Nation by Daft Punk

18:05 <MTughan> How true... :(

18:05 <CoderForLife> so the dental hygenist was telling me about ome guy named Fred on YouTube?

18:05 <CoderForLife> er some

18:06 <Rookie_69> Fred, the talking dog?

18:06 <CoderForLife> some 15yo

18:07 <Rookie_69> Flat out on the freeway, drying in the sun.

18:07 <Rookie_69> Different Fred.

18:07 <CoderForLife> apparently

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18:17 <Rookie_69> On my last visit to the dental hygenist, I noticed that she was getting a little bit fat... I guess Her husband knocked her up. All my dreams were dashed. I didn't even know she was married.

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18:17 <mweltin> you should have said something, like, "I see you are getting fat".

18:18 <mweltin> chicks dig that kind of thing.

18:18 <Rookie_69> That would work...

18:18 <mweltin> this may explain why I"m in the process of alienating my SECOND wife.

18:23 * Rookie_69 feels sorry for mweltin.

18:24 <mweltin> Rookie_69: don't

18:29 * Rookie_69 reluctantly admits that he didn't really feel sorry.

18:32 <mweltin> haha

18:32 <mweltin> ok one more hour of work

18:34 * Rookie_69 asks mweltin to please watch his/her language...

18:34 <MTughan> &echo ok one more hour of work

18:34 <Romulus> ok one more hour of !@#&

18:37 <Rookie_69> The W word is not welcome here at times.

18:42 <yoyo[RKN]> &bighello

18:42 <Romulus> Hello Celelibi, CoderForLife, ComradeHaz, deprecated, desti, DrBashir, efc, ELGono, Eythan, FreeLarry, hawmps, infinisoft, jasong, KathrynM, Lorvija, mchelen1, MTughan, mweltin, PieSpyRom, PovAddict, quail, Romulus, Rookie_69, sigmund, Soul_keeper, stux|RC-only, Tidus, Turf, up365, wdsmia, xcamel, XioNYC, and yoyo[RKN]

18:43 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx sxf

18:43 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 39°F / 4°C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 29.53in / 1000hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h | Updated: 11:20 PM CET; Chance of Rain. High:48 ° F.; Chance of Rain. Low:35 ° F.; Chance of Rain. High:51 ° F.; Chance of Rain. Low:37 ° F.; Chance of Rain. High:51 ° F.; Chance of Snow. Low:33 ° F.;

18:59 <Soul_keeper> MTughan,    check out the pics, they show the bios release date as apr 2nd for the 4890   interesting

18:59 <Romulus> <> (at

19:00 <KathrynM> I'm an idiot.  I just got up and started to get ready for w&@!.  Uh.  It's Saturday.

19:01 <MTughan> lol

19:01 <wdsmia> lol

19:02 <Rookie_69> NASTY HABITS DIE HARD.

19:02 <Rookie_69> ... I mean Nasty habits die hard.

19:02 <MTughan> Damn the Caps Lock, eh?

19:02 <Rookie_69> Stupid caps lock.

19:03 <Rookie_69> Yeah.

19:03 <xcamel> Hard habits die nasty too.

19:04 <Rookie_69> Damn the caps lock... Full speed ahead.

19:06 <CoderForLife> You're inflicted with GetReadyForW@#%itis KathrynM

19:07 <KathrynM> I do think so

19:07 <KathrynM> :/

19:08 <CoderForLife> aside from that malady, how's our favorite cat servant this morning?

19:08 * Rookie_69 wonders if K. was just eager for monday.

19:08 <xcamel> spiffy new mailbox

19:09 <xcamel> the old one did not survive.

19:09 <CoderForLife> just an upgrade, or did someone park a vehicle on it?

19:09 <wdsmia> did not survive new jeep?

19:09 <Rookie_69> Mailboxes and snowplows do not mix.

19:09 <KathrynM> I'm ok

19:10 <KathrynM> Cat has me trained.

19:10 <CoderForLife> ah, an excellent report KathrynM - sometimes OK is as good as it gets

19:10 <KathrynM> Long week.  And I found out I get yet another class to teach

19:10 <xcamel> they wrecked my split rail fence, too.

19:11 <CoderForLife> E3L?

19:12 <xcamel> /wdsmia is a smarta$$

19:12 <Rookie_69> English as a third language???

19:12 <wdsmia> ty

19:13 <CoderForLife> she said another class...

19:14 <xcamel> Man arrested in Stillwater (MN) for his 13th DWI

19:14 <CoderForLife> who pays xcamel?  or does the question answer the question?

19:14 <xcamel>

19:14 <Romulus> <> (at

19:15 <xcamel> it does, until I get my hands around the neck of the Highway supervisor...

19:16 <Rookie_69> Plough?

19:16 <xcamel> plow.

19:16 <Soul_keeper> he must be competing with that NM guy that had like 26

19:17 <mweltin> bail was set at 100k

19:17 <mweltin> not submitting to the test was the smartest thing he did all night.

19:17 <xcamel> after 3 they should have their arms removed.

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19:19 <Rookie_69> Sorry... Speaking Canadian there.

19:19 <Rookie_69> Plow it is.

19:19 <Soul_keeper> bla

19:19 * Soul_keeper stopped at 2

19:19 <wdsmia>

19:19 <Romulus> <> (at

19:21 <mweltin> ahahah "I'm smooth" .. classic

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19:34 <CoderForLife> Ok - I figured out what my dental hygenist was so enamored with today - Fred Figglehorn on YouTube - makes me worry about her using sharp instruments in my mouth

19:37 <KathrynM> Fred Figglehorn?

19:37 <KathrynM> Sounds like something out of the Muppets

19:37 <Rookie_69> Ask Doug... He found a link.

19:38 <wdsmia> your right KathrynM

19:38 <KathrynM> I think I'll pass on that

19:38 <Soul_keeper>   some are saying this was done on larrabee

19:38 <Romulus> <> (at

19:39 <Rookie_69> What I heard of it sounded like Chip and Dale on helium.

19:44 <KathrynM> Well, since it *is* Saturday (and not Friday like I thought).  I'm going back to bed.

19:44 <KathrynM> nighttol

19:45 <Rookie_69> Nytol.

19:50 <PovAddict> [20:17] <xcamel> after 3 they should have their arms removed.

19:50 <PovAddict> or a significant piece of liver - then they won't survive a 4th; sometimes natural selection needs a little help

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20:05 <CoderForLife> don't go looking at Fred on YouTube - it's a mind control trap

20:05 <CoderForLife> that's why I didn't post a link

20:06 <CoderForLife> speaking of taking out mailboxes - looks like the company Internet link has gone kaflooey

20:07 <CoderForLife> my remote access was flakey earlier then gone - can't access any web sites on the main lines, only some things on DSL links

20:08 <CoderForLife> can anyone access ?

20:08 <PovAddict> seems not

20:09 <MTughan> Their nameservers are either down or not responding.

20:09 <PovAddict> hmm nameservers

20:09 <CoderForLife> maybe they are switching ISPs, but I don't recall an outage announcement

20:09 * PovAddict tests dig

20:10 <CoderForLife> I do recall some discussion of a change in providers

20:11 <CoderForLife> Friday night during West Coast prime time is an elluva time

20:21 <CoderForLife> I used to be responsible for such things, now I'm called in to clean up messes and pass judgement on what they shoulda done

20:24 * CoderForLife sighs

20:25 <xcamel> always on a friday night too.

20:26 * Rookie_69 sighs goodnight.

20:26 <wdsmia> &nn Glenn

20:26 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

20:26 <CoderForLife> I'm growing concerned about them scheduling things when it's personally convenient, rather than good for the business

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20:29 * jasong wonders what Ubuntu 9.10 will be called. The Klutzy Kangaroo?

20:30 <Soul_keeper> poop on a stick ?

20:31 <PovAddict> name already set, Karmic Koala

20:31 <jasong> ahh, thanks

20:31 <xcamel> pick it up by the clean end.

20:32 <Soul_keeper> lol

20:32 * PovAddict reads about planned features

20:32 <PovAddict> looks like buzzwords so far

20:33 <MTughan> How far in advance do they set the names?

20:33 <PovAddict> seriously

20:33 <PovAddict> 9.04 will be about web 2.0: blurring the line between desktop apps and web apps

20:33 <PovAddict> 9.10 will be, among other things, about cloud computing (Amazon EC2-related stuff)

20:41 <jasong> Unless I have the ability to encrypt my files before they're put in the cloud, it's a bad idea.  Not that I do anything important online, it's just this cloud stuff is a major privacy problem

20:41 <jasong> errr, has a privacy problem

20:41 <PovAddict> it won't automatically put things on the cloud

20:41 <PovAddict> it will provide tools for administrators using Ubuntu Server to build their own cloud infrastructures

20:42 <Soul_keeper> cloud is all part of the corporate plan to rent you resources

20:42 <PovAddict> here

20:42 <Romulus> <> (at

20:43 <PovAddict> anyway you have 6-7 months till it gets released

20:43 <Soul_keeper> you wanna play crysis on your 1GHz gf2 system ?   ok fine  $1 an hour  ching ching

20:53 <xcamel> laterz all.

20:54 <efc> Night X

20:59 <PovAddict> on Windows 7 multi-touch functionality:

20:59 <PovAddict> "So they took Apple's iPhone functionality and put in into a larger chassis? What's next? A big ass table?"

21:09 <jasong> Anybody know anything about the gameplay experience of Sims 3?

21:10 * jasong goes to Google it after the fact, hey i'm lonely ;)

21:17 <MTughan> PovAddict: rofl, the irony...

21:57 <PovAddict>

21:57 <Romulus> <> (at

21:57 <PovAddict> also

21:57 <PovAddict> "Microsoft is ending mainstream (free) support for Windows XP Home and Professional, as well as for its Office 2003 suite, on April 14, 2009."

22:08 <PovAddict> whoa, seems down; can anyone check?

22:10 <MTughan> PovAddict: Confirmed here.

22:11 <MTughan> DNS record exists, but no reply to either ping or Firefox.

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23:47 <MTughan> That's sad... Facebook reloads slower than FF takes to time out Ramsey. :(

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