IRC logs of #boinc for Thursday, 2009-04-02

00:32 <FreeLarry58> humm netsplit

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01:30 <efc> &wx 31088

01:30 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 64F / 18C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.85in / 1011hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a slight chance of showers and thunderstorms...then a chance of showers and a slight chance of thunderstorms after midnight. Lows in the upper 50s. Light and variable winds. Chance of rain 50 percent.; (2 more messages)

01:31 <efc> &more

01:31 <Romulus> efc: Thursday - Showers likely with a chance of thunderstorms. Some thunderstorms may be severe in the afternoon. Highs in the upper 60s. East winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 60 percent.; Thursday Night - Showers likely and scattered thunderstorms in the evening...then a chance of showers and a slight chance of thunderstorms after midnight. Some thunderstorms may be severe in the evening. Lows in (1 more message)

01:31 <efc> &more

01:31 <Romulus> efc: the upper 50s. Southeast winds 10 to 15 mph shifting to the southwest after midnight. Chance of rain 70 percent.;

01:32 <jasong> Does anyone here understand how US tobacco taxes work?  LIke, is it a percentage, like per dollar, or per packet of cigarettes, or...?

01:33 <jasong> I've read that the tax has tripled, but I'm not sure how it's calculated

01:39 <efc> Hmm, not sure, I'd guess its a flat tax per cig

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01:56 <efc> heavy rain on and off for hours now

02:04 <efc> Slashdot Log In x

02:04 <efc> Log In Nickname Password Public Terminal

02:04 <efc> [ Create a new account ]

02:04 <efc> 09/04/02/0238233 story

02:04 <efc> New Legislation Would Federalize Cybersecurity

02:04 <efc> oops

02:04 <efc> just wanted that last line

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02:21 <efc> oh jasong, the cigar tax is 40 cents each

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02:32 <jasong> Any Atom experts on here?

02:33 <efc> oh jasong, the cigar tax is 40 cents each

02:33 <efc> what about the Atom? A lot of us looked at it at one time or another.

02:33 <jasong> lol, yeah, I'm not a smoker, it's just an article I'm reading isn't giving me info about the actual tobacco tax amounts, or how it's calculated

02:34 <jasong> I have voluntarily placed a 150 watt(160 watt absolute upper limit) on my desktops so that I can sleep comfortably in my room.  Because of this, I'm curious about low watt processors

02:35 <jasong> I  don't pay for electricity(my dad says it's so cheap here that I'm not to worry about it) but heat is a concern since I sleep with my computers nearby

02:36 * jasong added that last word at the last second before pressing enter

02:36 <jasong> ;)

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02:36 <efc>

02:36 <Romulus> <> (at

02:36 <jasong> thanks, I'll look

02:36 <MTughan_> jasong: What were you wanting to know?

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02:37 <efc> jasong: I think that so far, the Atom has not been all that great in performance/watt, especially in an overall system

02:37 <efc> But if you don't need the performance, then its good

02:37 <efc> Last I looked, the chipsets available stunk and took way more power than the CPUs

02:37 <jasong> Well, I'm wondering if I could get some good crunching out of Atoms without breaking the bank

02:37 <MTughan> zombie67 has first hand experience. He bought an Atom for crunching.

02:37 <jasong> What did he think about it?

02:38 <MTughan> Dunno. I typed his name there to flash him. ;)

02:38 <jasong> lol, thanks

02:40 <jasong> Oh my God, this is so annoying, the winebrowser command opens up Firefox.  What the hell?

02:40 <MTughan> Here's zombie's Atom:

02:40 <Romulus> <> (at

02:40 <jasong> thanks

02:43 <efc> Dunno if they ever released some good chipsets for it

02:44 <MTughan> Acer is rumoured to be coming out with an Ion based computer soon.

02:45 <MTughan> April 8.

02:54 <jasong> thanks, I'll look into it :)

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04:33 <CoderForLife> &ping

04:33 <Romulus> pong

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04:41 <efc> moo

04:44 <CoderForLife> moo

04:44 <CoderForLife> looks like my IP address changed at 2:20am or so

04:45 <CoderForLife> dealing with the fallout

04:45 <CoderForLife> instead of my plans to Code

04:48 <efc> Awww your IP address changed

04:49 <efc> "New Legislation Would Federalize Cybersecurity" -  Wheeeeee!

04:50 <efc> "The legislation also would require licensing and certification of cybersecurity professionals"  uh huh

04:50 <efc> &wx 31088

04:50 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 63F / 17C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.74in / 1007hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h ; Today - Showers and thunderstorms likely in the morning...then occasional showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. Some thunderstorms may be severe in the afternoon. Highs in the upper 60s. Southeast winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 80 (1 more message)

04:50 <efc> &more

04:50 <Romulus> efc: percent.; Tonight - Showers and thunderstorms likely in the evening...then a slight chance of showers after midnight. Some thunderstorms may be severe. Lows in the mid 50s. Southeast winds 10 to 15 mph shifting to the southwest after midnight. Chance of rain 60 percent.; Friday - Mostly sunny. Windy. Highs around 70. West winds 15 to 25 mph.;

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05:10 <CoderForLife> yes, that is correct efc

05:10 <efc> I'm certifiable

05:10 <CoderForLife> and all my hosted sites

05:10 <CoderForLife> trying to update DNS settings everywhere

05:10 <efc> I report your Un-Certified attempts at security!

05:11 <CoderForLife> thanks for your heartfelt sympathy

05:11 <efc> My IP address changes every time I hear a dial tone

05:12 <CoderForLife> this IP address had not changed in 3 years, since I moved here

05:12 <CoderForLife> dropped the dynamic DNS services to save money

05:18 <CoderForLife> I won't trouble you further with my issues or status

05:19 <efc> Thank you, it was consuming 0.001% of my brain bandwidth.. power that could be better used indexing all the "8" scenes in BSG by square centimeters of skin revealed

05:21 <efc> Indexing Complete. Later.

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06:24 <CoderForLife> bah

06:25 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

06:25 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 42.4F / 5.8C | Humidity: 77% | Pressure: 29.78in / 1008.4hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 2.3mph / 3.7km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. A chance of sprinkles this afternoon. Highs around 70. Southeast winds 10 to 15 mph.; Tonight - A chance of showers in the evening...becoming widespread with isolated thunderstorms after midnight. Lows (1 more message)

06:25 <CoderForLife> &more

06:25 <Romulus> CoderForLife: around 50. Southeast winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 100 percent.; Friday - Showers with isolated thunderstorms in the morning... ending by the afternoon. Colder with highs in the mid 50s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph...becoming west around 20 mph in the afternoon with gusts up to 35 mph. Chance of rain 100 percent.;

06:26 <CoderForLife> a wasted Coding morning - now off to w@#%

06:26 <CoderForLife> laterz

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06:29 <noren> hi all, yestearday i installed boinc on 64bit ubuntu system, it downloaded the project but did not compute anything wat is the prob any one ??

06:32 <noren> 02-Apr-2009 16:01:06 [---] [error] GUI RPC bind failed: 98 << this is the error wen i try from konsole

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06:45 <PovAddict> meh

06:45 <PovAddict> I've been feeling light-headed since yesterday afternoon

06:45 <PovAddict> prolly medication side effects?

06:46 <hawmps> 'lo

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06:49 <noren> need help in running boinc on 64bit ubuntu

06:49 <PovAddict> noren: looks like you were starting boinc_client - don't, it's already runninf

06:49 <PovAddict> starts on boot

06:50 <noren> hi PovAddict : yestarday after all download it suddenly stoped. no computation at all

06:50 <noren> do i need 32 bit lib run run them

06:51 <PovAddict> to control it (for example attach a project), use boinccmd (command line) or boincmgr (graphical, needs X)

06:51 <PovAddict> for many projects you may need 32bit libs yes

06:51 <noren> yesatardy i attached it to einstien project and it downloaded some 20 files from the server

06:52 <noren> i installed boinc from repos wont the 32lib will be installed automatically

06:52 <PovAddict> i *think* einstein has native 64bit apps though...

06:52 <KathrynM> no they don't

06:53 <PovAddict> hmm

06:54 <PovAddict> do you know the package name for 32bit libs on ubuntu?

06:54 <noren> well i just wanted to know is the boinc is doing any computational work or not... how to check it

06:54 <KathrynM> ia32 or something like that

06:54 <PovAddict> noren: top :)

06:55 <PovAddict> if you see einstein process using CPU...

06:56 <noren> hi PovAddict : yestarday after all download it suddenly stoped. no computation at activity

06:56 <noren> oops typo

06:57 <noren> i cud only see boinc process using memory and shared memory but bo cpu activity

06:57 <PovAddict> do you have a graphical interface?

06:57 <noren> i have this boinc manager

06:58 <PovAddict> check messages tab

07:00 <noren> it says no work sent reached daily quota

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07:02 <PovAddict> heh, been crashing tasks like crazy

07:03 <KathrynM> and she lost her terminal

07:03 <KathrynM> hope she finds it again

07:03 <KathrynM> I'm thinking ia32libs need to be installed

07:03 <PovAddict> I think boinc should check for actual ability to run 32bit apps on 64bit OS before tellin the server that it can

07:04 <KathrynM> mail DA.  I dare you :-p

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07:09 <noren> oh sorry got dc, well do i need to install everything again

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07:16 <hawmps> people who end up installing *nix boinc from packages end up with so many more problems than those who just install it all in one dedicated dir from the berkeley/dl/ prebuilts

07:16 <PovAddict> ...

07:16 <PovAddict> you keep blaming the package

07:18 <hawmps> I simply state the facts.

08:09 <CoderForLife> re-morning folks

08:09 <CoderForLife> TIme Warner and I had a disagreement over my Internet access this morning

08:10 <CoderForLife> I thought I had access, they thought I didn't, apparently

08:10 <CoderForLife> I have a new IP address now, which caused me to have DNS phun

08:11 <CoderForLife> can you get to my server now PovAddict, with the new address?

08:18 <PovAddict> whats the DNS name?

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08:27 <CoderForLife> PovAddict

08:27 <Romulus> Title: (at

08:31 <KathrynM> I can get there CoderForLife

08:32 <PovAddict> and Rommie can too

08:33 <PovAddict> and I can too

08:34 <CoderForLife> I think you were blocked before, right?

08:35 <PovAddict> hmm yes, but i hadnt tried for a long time

08:35 <CoderForLife> well , I guess that's one benefit

08:36 <PovAddict> qwerty onscreen keyboards suck

08:36 <CoderForLife> it may be faster too, based on some morning speed testing

08:38 <CoderForLife> double bonus

08:38 <CoderForLife> having to change IP addresses in 3 DNS servers this morning - priceless

08:39 <hawmps> then the whole viral propagation thing...

08:50 <CoderForLife> right - my domains are on a 1/2 hour to 1 hour replication time

08:50 <CoderForLife> far more leisurely than I would like

09:02 <KathrynM> ugh

09:02 <KathrynM> the cat just slid down my back, nails digging into my skin

09:02 <Soul_keeper> Good Morning People !

09:32 <CoderForLife> The Peeps Bid You Welcome

09:33 <CoderForLife> We've had a few Blackberry Storms encounter violent collisions with walls, due to onscreen qwerty keyboards, PovAddict

09:34 <Soul_keeper> RIMM will now have an "apps store" for the blackberry, just like apple

09:34 <Soul_keeper> and eharmony made a section for those of you in that condition

09:37 <Soul_keeper> Not looking like i'll meet the deadline for a WCG wu on my Eee

09:37 <Soul_keeper> 116Hrs into it and 77% done

09:37 <Soul_keeper> due on sunday

09:38 <Soul_keeper> the estimated time seems wrong, moves maybe 2 or 3% a day

09:56 * Soul_keeper gives it an overclock

10:03 <Soul_keeper> +33%

10:11 <zombie67> as long as you return it before the re-issued task, you should be okay, even if it is late

10:13 <Soul_keeper> ohhh

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11:58 <old511> &wx 87321

11:58 <Romulus> old511: Temperature: 35F / 1.7C | Humidity: 40% | Pressure: in / hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 2mph / 3.2km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs in the 50s to lower 60s. West winds 10 to 20 mph in the afternoon.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Windy. Lows in the mid 20s to lower 30s. Southwest winds 20 to 30 mph with gusts to around 40 mph. Caution advised on area (1 more message)

11:59 <old511> more

11:59 <old511> &more

11:59 <Romulus> old511: lakes.; Friday - Partly cloudy. Windy...warmer. Highs in the 50s to mid 60s. Southwest winds 20 to 30 mph increasing to 25 to 35 mph in the afternoon. Gusts up to 50 mph.;

12:00 <old511> good day or night as the case may be :)

12:01 <old511> &spit-thedog

12:01 <Romulus> old511: Are you daft?

12:01 <old511> yes

12:02 <old511> &seen Spit-the Dog

12:02 <Romulus> old511: (seen [<channel>] <nick>) -- Returns the last time <nick> was seen and what <nick> was last seen saying. <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent on the channel itself.

12:03 <old511> Jay are you about ?

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12:04 <PovAddict> &seen Spit_theDog

12:04 <Romulus> PovAddict: Spit_theDog was last seen in #boinc 1 year, 46 weeks, 0 days, 5 hours, 35 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <Spit_theDog> Bye for now all :)

12:08 <mweltin> Hey PovAddict

12:10 <Soul_keeper> PovAddict, you got the memory of an elephant

12:10 <Soul_keeper> nearly 2yrs now, might be time to move on :)

12:41 <FreeLarry58> Soul_keeper spit was a regular - hope nothing bad happened to her - noticd her machines have all but stopped adding credit to projects

12:42 <Soul_keeper> no e-mail address ?

12:42 <Soul_keeper> maybe she got a jealous bf that forbids her from talking to men on irc ...

12:42 <FreeLarry58> humm let me check old contacts maybe?

12:42 <FreeLarry58> lol she's about the age of my grandma

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12:45 <FreeLarry58> humm do have an old email addy

12:45 <Soul_keeper> then you better be nice to her

12:46 * FreeLarry58 wonders if he can think straight enough to write an email?

12:46 <Soul_keeper> heh

12:47 <FreeLarry58> get to many white flashes in head when trying to think hard

12:47 <FreeLarry58> one too many electric shocks in life

12:48 <FreeLarry58> and no not for medical purposes

12:48 <Soul_keeper> well you know, the youngsters have to buy drugs to get that effect.  you should be thankfull it's free :)

12:49 <FreeLarry58> too many of them should have left me dead - medical people were surprised i didn't even go to them afterwards

12:50 <FreeLarry58> except for the one that knocked me unconsous

12:50 <FreeLarry58> and that from blow to head

12:50 <Soul_keeper> ahh

12:51 <Soul_keeper> I got an uncle that was born with his heart upside down,  he's had like 3 heart attacks and a few strokes.   The doctors gave him 6 months to live about 5yrs ago

12:51 <Soul_keeper> he just keeps going, he was an MP tho for the navy  he's tough

12:51 <FreeLarry58> lol not upside down here but shaped like a pancake

12:52 <FreeLarry58> electrician in navy when young here

12:52 <Soul_keeper> nice

12:52 <FreeLarry58> wish your uncle my best Soul_keeper

12:53 <FreeLarry58> time for chores

12:53 <Soul_keeper> later

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13:28 <PovAddict> dont mention heart attacks...

13:29 * PovAddict checksrate again

13:37 <FreeLarry58> humm rate 1 per minute yup still beating

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14:00 <PovAddict> about 1 per second here

14:00 <PovAddict> but feeling a bit lightheaded

14:01 <PovAddict> must be all the meds

14:01 <MTughan> 60 beats/minute is still a little slow.

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14:01 <MTughan> Normal is around 80 or so IIRC.

14:01 <PovAddict> well can't measure exactly now

14:02 <PovAddict> I'd say I have a bit more now

14:02 <PovAddict> but while i was in bed, it was 60 or a little bit *less*

14:05 <PovAddict> I'm taking three different medications and two of them said they may cause sleepyness... I didn't *check* the third

14:06 <Soul_keeper> is it just me or has obama got more stupid every time he's spoken ?

14:06 <Soul_keeper> he uses "uhhhh" several times in each sentence

14:06 <MTughan> What, the fact that he gave the Queen of England an iPod?

14:06 <Soul_keeper> he sounds like bush now

14:07 <MTughan>

14:07 <Romulus> <> (at

14:07 <PovAddict>

14:07 <Romulus> <> (at

14:08 <MTughan> Heh. Doesn't say what graphics card.

14:08 <Soul_keeper> lol

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14:10 <MTughan> "...what the heck is Microsoft doing pimping other manufacturers' hardware instead of touting the benefits of Vista? Oh, right. Never mind"

14:29 <PovAddict> no benefits?

14:29 <PovAddict> :)

14:30 <PovAddict> I've read technical details on Vista; there are many benefits, but not worth the $$$

14:30 <PovAddict> (if you already paid for XP, why do you have to pay *full price* for Vista?)

14:32 <FreeLarry58> PovAddict did you get my side?

14:32 <PovAddict> yes

14:33 <PovAddict> I think sethy has her phone number btw

14:33 <FreeLarry58> humm i believe your right -- same country at least

14:34 <FreeLarry58> 60/minute good for in shape person - personal closer to 80+/minute for me

14:35 <FreeLarry58> 60 or less when asleep

14:35 <PovAddict> I'm not currently "in shape"

14:35 <FreeLarry58> uh uh sedintary?

14:39 <PovAddict> fairly sedentary the past couple of years; and the meds the past couple of days are annoying me with their side effects

14:40 <PovAddict> RMS on how you run non-free software in the form of JavaScript on your computer and what to do about it:

14:40 <Romulus> <> (at

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15:31 <mweltin> I wish Stallman would give that a rest.

15:31 <mweltin> I understand his point, but he is taking things too far with that article.

15:32 <Soul_keeper> nah my hero is never wrong !

15:32 <mweltin> Some of us refuse entirely to install proprietary software, and many others consider non-freedom a strike against the program.

15:33 <mweltin> that line is simply impractical.

15:33 <Soul_keeper> not for me

15:33 <Soul_keeper> gpl or death here

15:33 <PovAddict> he usually takes things too far, but ok

15:33 <Soul_keeper> I even avoid lgpl as often as possible

15:34 <mweltin> I'm all for OS, and if fact will go as long as I can without a proprietary option.

15:35 <mweltin> but sometimes you dont' have another option, or the proprietary version is cheap enough and allows for the completion of a task in a timely manner.

15:36 <mweltin> try encoding mts video with layer 10 xh234 encoding with OS tools.

15:36 <Soul_keeper> Yeah i'm a hardliner, If it's not GPL then I don't need it

15:36 <PovAddict> thats what RMS wants, give people the option

15:37 <mweltin> way cheaper to spend the $30 on an piece of software than all the research required.

15:37 <mweltin> it already is an option

15:37 <mweltin> youdno't have to execute any javascript

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15:45 <Tank_Master> &wx 97123

15:45 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 54.0F / 12.2C | Humidity: 63% | Pressure: 29.84in / 1010.4hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 5.0mph / 8.0km/h ; Today - Showers...some with small hail. A slight chance of thunderstorms in the afternoon. Highs around 50. West wind 10 to 15 mph. Afternoon gusts to 25 mph.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Showers likely and a slight chance (1 more message)

15:45 <Tank_Master> &more

15:45 <Romulus> Tank_Master: of thunderstorms in the evening...then a chance of showers after midnight. Some showers may produce small hail. Lows 35 to 40. Northwest wind 5 to 15 mph.; Friday - Mostly cloudy in the morning...then partly sunny. A slight chance of showers. Highs around 50. Northwest wind 5 to 15 mph.;

15:45 <mweltin> greeting Tank_Master

15:45 <Tank_Master> mweltin!

15:45 <Tank_Master> wazz up?

15:46 <mweltin> killing off my server.

15:46 <mweltin> you?

15:46 <Romulus> It has been said that you are upper fayl, mweltin

15:46 <MTughan> forget you

15:46 <Romulus> I hear ya!

15:46 <Tank_Master> gettin my comps working again and selling them

15:47 <mweltin> I didn't think guys like you sold computers.

15:47 <mweltin> I thought you just acquired more.

15:47 <Tank_Master> im buying an i7

15:47 <Tank_Master> selling off the old to buy new

15:47 <Tank_Master> im selling the old cus they dont work

15:48 <Tank_Master> n are out of warrenty :P

15:48 <mweltin> but you are fixing them so they work.

15:48 <Tank_Master> I can get more from them if they work

15:48 <mweltin> what are you selling off?

15:49 <Tank_Master> a qx6700 with 4gb ram and a e6600 with 2GB ram

15:50 <Tank_Master> gettin an i7 920 with 6 or 12 gb ram and a geforce 285

15:50 <Tank_Master> should boot my score a bit

15:50 <Tank_Master> boost*

15:51 <mweltin> yeah but if you kept them it would boost your score that much higher.

15:52 <Tank_Master> trying to cut back on my power comsumption

15:53 <Tank_Master> I mean, a P2 would boost my score to, but its not worth running it

15:53 <mweltin> what about having a bike powered generator. You could have a free standing bike at work and power you boxes off of your own power.

15:55 <Tank_Master> LOL

16:01 <xcamel> re-hi

16:04 <Tank_Master> re-wb

16:04 <Soul_keeper>

16:04 <Romulus> <> (at

16:29 <xcamel> looking pretty nasty down in the southland...

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17:07 <jasong> wow, kettling.  Are the lawsuits allowed to include dry cleaning

17:07 <jasong> cue nervous laughter

17:09 <jasong> We like to complain about Islamic law here in the US, but it seems like European countries and their off-shoots(like the US) are collectively going down a similar road

17:09 <jasong> (yes, off-shoot is an awkward description)

17:10 <jasong> &monologue

17:10 <Romulus> jasong: Your current monologue is at least 5 lines long.

17:12 <CoderForLife> home again

17:13 <CoderForLife> bbiab after dindin

17:14 <wdsmia> re-hi

17:25 <jasong> Wow, it counted my monologue query as part of the monologue.  Looks like a bit of new logic might need to be added

17:26 <jasong> &monologue

17:26 <Romulus> jasong: Your current monologue is at least 2 lines long.

17:26 * jasong needs a life

17:26 <Tank_Master> &monologue

17:26 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Your current monologue is at least 1 line long.

17:27 <Tank_Master> you mean it could be more?

17:27 * wdsmia slaps Tank_Master around with a large Carp

17:28 * Tank_Master slaps wdsmia with a butterfish

17:28 <MTughan> jasong: No the counting is right.

17:35 <jasong> My RSS reader is rather unintuitive when it asks you what feeds you want to load.  You're supposed to click on the folder holding the feeds and then hit Close.  I wasted about 5 minutes figuring that out

17:35 <jasong> I can just imagine how frustrating it would be for a non-techie

17:45 <CoderForLife> Hmm - trouble brewing on the radar

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17:46 <wdsmia> looks like you will have some fun later tonight

17:46 <CoderForLife> yeah

17:47 <CoderForLife> long after sundown, so hopefully less energetic

17:48 <wdsmia> its moving fast look for it in about 2 hrs

17:48 * CoderForLife crawls under his desk

17:53 * CoderForLife sends up a weather balloon

17:53 * wdsmia paints a bulls eye on CoderForLife's deck

17:53 <CoderForLife> will that help clean the deck?

17:54 <CoderForLife> maybe with insurance money...

18:02 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

18:02 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 75.4F / 24.1C | Humidity: 53% | Pressure: 29.35in / 993.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 5.8mph / 9.3km/h ; Tonight - Showers and thunderstorms this evening...then showers and scattered thunderstorms after midnight. Lows in the upper 40s. East winds 10 to 15 mph...becoming southeast late. Chance of rain 100 percent.; Friday - (1 more message)

18:03 <CoderForLife> &more

18:03 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Showers and scattered thunderstorms in the morning... then a chance of showers in the afternoon. Breezy with highs in the mid 50s. West winds 15 to 25 mph with gusts up to 35 mph. Chance of rain 100 percent.; Friday Night - Partly cloudy in the evening...then clearing. Lows in the mid 30s. Northwest winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 35 mph...becoming west 5 to 10 mph after midnight.;

18:03 <wdsmia>

18:03 <Romulus> <> (at

18:03 <Soul_keeper> &wx 91977

18:03 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 63.0F / 17.2C | Humidity: 66% | Pressure: 29.32in / 992.8hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Haze | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 3.6mph / 5.8km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Slight chance of rain overnight. Patchy fog overnight. Lows 46 to 56. Winds west 15 mph in the evening becoming light. Chance of measurable precipitation 20 percent.; Friday - Patchy fog in the morning. (1 more message)

18:04 <CoderForLife> yeah - looks bad - you go first

18:04 <Soul_keeper> I like rain :)

18:04 <wdsmia> &more Soul_keeper

18:04 <Romulus> wdsmia: Cloudy with a slight chance of rain in the morning...then partly cloudy with a slight chance of showers in the afternoon. Highs 56 to 61. Light winds becoming southwest 15 mph in the afternoon. Chance of measurable precipitation 20 percent.; Friday Night - Partly cloudy. Patchy fog overnight. Colder. Lows 38 to 48. Winds west 15 mph in the evening becoming light.;

18:04 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

18:04 <CoderForLife> at what's this snarky thing tracking NNW?

18:04 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 49.6F / 9.8C | Humidity: 33% | Pressure: 29.67in / 1004.6hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 10.0mph / 16.1km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Low in the upper 20s. North wind 5 to 15 mph.; Friday - Sunny. High in the mid 50s. North wind 5 to 10 mph shifting to the east in the afternoon.; Friday Night - Partly cloudy. Low in the mid 30s. (1 more message)

18:04 <wdsmia> &more

18:04 <Romulus> wdsmia: Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph.;

18:04 <CoderForLife> &nomore

18:04 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Are you daft?

18:05 <Soul_keeper> lol

18:05 <Soul_keeper> is that "daft" as in "daft punk"

18:06 <CoderForLife> I wouldn't know about that

18:06 <Soul_keeper> me either

18:07 <wdsmia> knowing Rommie its daft as in daffy duck

18:07 * wdsmia ducks

18:17 <wdsmia>

18:17 <Romulus> <> (at

18:18 <PovAddict> lol

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18:18 <PovAddict> boinc website down

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18:27 <ergZay> MTughan: seems to work

18:27 <MTughan> Good.

18:27 <ergZay> and

18:27 <Romulus> <> (at

18:27 <MTughan> Sorry for the quits, having trouble getting a script to work.

18:27 <ergZay> there is stderr out but seems to have validated fine

18:28 <MTughan> Yeah, the stderr isn't really as much for errors, but output the application would like the user to see.

18:28 <MTughan> Don't ask why.

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18:30 <ergZay> should be to stdout

18:30 <ergZay> shouldnt it

18:30 <MTughan> Like I said don't ask. That would be the more logical to me.

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18:32 <PovAddict> &web title

18:32 <Romulus> PovAddict: BOINC

18:33 <PovAddict> at last

18:33 <Soul_keeper> MTughan, you did all the MW work, didn't leave me any

18:33 <MTughan> Soul_keeper: I haven't been getting any work today.

18:33 <ergZay> i hvae WUs sittin gon a few machines

18:33 <ergZay> for MW

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18:45 <xcamel> back again

18:53 <CoderForLife> hi Jay

18:54 <CoderForLife> I'm watching the weather wadar

18:55 <xcamel> nasty down south

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18:55 <xcamel> ugly near you too..

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18:57 <PovAddict> efc:

18:57 <Romulus> Title: Moo. (at

18:58 <efc> moo

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18:58 <PovAddict> you should upload a pic maybe :)

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18:59 <CoderForLife> Mr. Snark approaching from the south, moving NNW

18:59 <CoderForLife> a bad omen

19:00 <xcamel> looks windy too.

19:00 <CoderForLife> just heard some tree cracking noises

19:00 * efc hits on all the girl-cows instead

19:00 <MTughan> Aren't all cows female?

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19:01 <efc> we have a couple of rivers in flood stage, but not that serious

19:01 <PovAddict> moo

19:01 <PovAddict> &moo

19:01 <Romulus> PovAddict: Are you daft?

19:01 <PovAddict> clearly

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19:04 <CoderForLife> this cell is tracking *just* to my east

19:04 <CoderForLife> and I mean just

19:04 <CoderForLife> it's raining 1 mile away

19:05 <CoderForLife> not here

19:05 <xcamel> it will be shortly

19:05 <CoderForLife> lots of rumbling - it's red on the radar, but dark blue out my office window

19:06 <xcamel> that's why I got the two weeks worth of hay out tonight.

19:06 <xcamel> bad enough I have to go get feed tomorrow.

19:08 <CoderForLife> lots of visible llightning

19:09 <wdsmia> free light show

19:09 <xcamel> might hit a bit here tomorrow...

19:10 <xcamel> I think the flight to atlanta on sat is going to be rough.

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19:11 <CoderForLife> one bird brave enough to sing nearby

19:11 <CoderForLife> no other bird sounds

19:12 <wdsmia> @Jay so will the days of sun sand and sea when you get down there

19:13 * wdsmia could use a few rought days like that

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19:21 <xcamel> I'm sure it's all still there..

19:22 <xcamel> And I finally get to see the palapa job first hand...

19:27 <Soul_keeper> xcamel, are you rich ?

19:28 <Soul_keeper> y/n [y]

19:29 <Soul_keeper> ok that guy has it out for me ...

19:36 <CoderForLife> that one slid by with nary a drop of rain

19:36 <CoderForLife> I don't think I can do the same with the oncoming front

19:37 <xcamel> huh?

19:37 <xcamel> rich... that is a hard question...

19:39 <Soul_keeper> xcamel, are you almost rich ?

19:40 <CoderForLife> I'm sure he means rich in spirit, character and wit

19:40 <Soul_keeper> xcamel, I was gonna ask you to order me a pizza from   :)  the pepperoni one

19:40 <PovAddict> rich is relative

19:40 <Romulus> Title: Papa John's Mobile Web (at

19:40 <PovAddict> ...

19:40 <CoderForLife> huh?

19:40 <Soul_keeper> haha

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19:41 <Tank_Master> rich to the demicrats isnt as much to others because the demicrats what you to pay your taxes

19:41 <Tank_Master> its the fair thing to do

19:41 <mweltin> does anyone know if there is a channel for svn support on freenode ?

19:41 <Soul_keeper> i bet bho would buy me a pizza ...

19:41 <mweltin> #svn and #svn-support are not there.

19:41 <CoderForLife> did you try #subversion?

19:41 <mweltin> or at least I'm the only one in them

19:41 <mweltin> nope

19:42 <Soul_keeper> #svn is there

19:42 <Soul_keeper> 178 people in there

19:42 <mweltin> yup Soul_keeper

19:42 <mweltin> just noticed that

19:42 <CoderForLife> I guess that qualifies

19:42 <mweltin> must have been my irc client

19:42 * KathrynM yawns

19:43 <KathrynM> tgif all

19:43 <Soul_keeper> maybe a separate server tab, i do that sometimes

19:43 <CoderForLife> sure - blame it on the technology

19:43 <Soul_keeper> Hi KathrynM

19:43 <CoderForLife> KathhynM always..  oh, hi KathrynM

19:44 <KathrynM> lol

19:44 <xcamel> up with the sun..

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19:47 <xcamel> I'm just going to be happy to get the hell out of dodge..

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19:49 <CoderForLife> in a Jeep?

19:49 <mweltin2> anyone here ever get a svn: XML data was not well-formed error from svn?

19:50 * CoderForLife didn't need to ask the question as much as he needed to deliver the pun

19:50 <xcamel> I'll probably end up in a dodge from durango.

19:51 <Soul_keeper>

19:51 <Romulus> <> (at

19:53 <KathrynM> uh oh.  someone broke the boinc boards

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19:54 <mweltin3> turns out the right server name helps a lot.

19:54 <MTughan> You have four nicks here.

19:54 <MTughan> /msg NickServ ghost mweltin <password>

19:54 <MTughan> The other two will have to time out on their own.

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19:55 <mweltin3> /msg NickServ ghost mweltin sdi357

19:55 <mweltin3> shit

19:55 <wdsmia> asks mweltin3 to please watch his or her language Thanks, your friendly channel op.

19:55 <mweltin3> sorry

19:55 <MTughan> Yeah, those spaces hurt...

19:55 <Soul_keeper> I've done that before, don't feel bad :)

19:56 <MTughan> mweltin3: /msg NickServ help set password

19:56 <MTughan> Then you'll just have to modify your script.

19:56 <CoderForLife> yeah - better do that

19:56 <MTughan> Considering Jay publishes these logs on the 'net. ;)

19:57 * CoderForLife nods

19:58 <mweltin3> yeah

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19:59 <mweltin3> wait am I here ?

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20:01 <MTughan> mweltin, mweltin2, mweltin3: Which one is live?

20:01 <CoderForLife> eenie, meenie, mynie, moe

20:02 <mweltin> my clear connection is super spotty today

20:02 <mweltin> I just ran the ghost command

20:02 <mweltin> but my old users are still here.

20:02 <MTughan> Well, I'd recommend changing your password now.

20:02 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o xcamel

20:03 <xcamel> I can just kick the extras...

20:03 <mweltin> would you please xcamel

20:03 *** mweltin3 was kicked by xcamel (User terminated!)

20:03 *** mweltin2 was kicked by xcamel (User terminated!)

20:03 * XioNYC cowers

20:03 <xcamel> you have been uncloned.

20:04 <MTughan> mweltin: Yeah, so identify with NickServ first, then call "set password <your_new_password>"

20:04 <XioNYC> But I'm an extra - I have a gig next week!

20:04 <XioNYC> :-)

20:04 <mweltin> passwd is changed as well.

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20:04 <MTughan> And then you'll just have to modify the script to use the new password.

20:05 <mweltin> I have no idea where that script is.

20:05 <MTughan> Windows?

20:05 <Romulus> Somebody said Windows is not nearly as SHA1 computational friendly as Linux, MTughan

20:05 <mweltin> yeah

20:05 <mweltin> pigdin

20:05 <mweltin> man that means I have to update my linux box too

20:05 <mweltin> mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

20:05 <MTughan> Oh, pidgin... I was thinking you were on Xchat.

20:06 <MTughan> Give me a sec.

20:06 <mweltin> I used ot be on Xchat

20:06 * XioNYC invokes prior restraint and return to his regularly scheduled lurking...

20:06 <mweltin> man not my day.

20:07 <mweltin> the svn command uploaded all the files not the directory I had hoped for.

20:07 <mweltin> good think I learned all I need to know for a presentation tomorrow on svn.

20:07 <MTughan> Do you know where pidgin is installed?

20:07 <mweltin> It's scary to think how I'll prepared I can be at time.

20:08 <mweltin> My guess somewhere on c:\

20:08 <MTughan> lol

20:08 <MTughan> Try C:\Program Files\Pidgin or something.

20:08 <MTughan> Look for a plugins subfolder.

20:08 <mweltin> yeah Im sure

20:09 <mweltin> yup its there

20:09 <MTughan> Wait, I think the script I wrote for you was for Xchat, and wouldn't've worked with Pidgin... Did you set up autoidentification in Pidgin itself?

20:09 <mweltin> mmmmmmmm I don't know.

20:10 <mweltin> I prefer having my computer be a surprise ever time I boot it up. lets me feel alive.

20:10 <MTughan> lol

20:10 <mweltin> my stop is coming up .

20:10 <mweltin> I'll be back on later

20:10 <mweltin> thanks for the help.

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20:10 <CoderForLife> what kind of stop?

20:11 <CoderForLife> skydiving?

20:12 <MTughan> Hmm... He's actually still on the server, just not on any channel.

20:15 <CoderForLife> w@#% homew@#% done - time to go sit with the wife

20:15 <CoderForLife> gn all

20:16 <xcamel> laterz

20:16 * CoderForLife goes outside to watch for the tornados, in accordance with government instructions

20:16 <xcamel> entertainment..

20:16 <CoderForLife> I'd hate to not comply, and get fired by Timmy

20:17 * CoderForLife leaves his desk

20:21 <xcamel> you have a couple hours yet.

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20:50 <zombie67> tank_master

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20:54 <Tank_Master> yes?

20:54 <Romulus> It has been said that yes is enable, Tank_Master

20:55 <Tank_Master> stfu rommie

20:55 <Tank_Master> zombie67

20:57 <MTughan> forget yes

20:57 <Romulus> Gotcha, MTughan.

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20:57 <jackygrahamez> hi

20:58 <jackygrahamez> &wx 20001

20:58 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Temperature: 59.3F / 15.2C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 29.82in / 1009.7hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 7.0mph / 11.3km/h ; Tonight - Cloudy. A chance of showers this evening...then showers likely after midnight. Lows in the lower 50s. East winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 70 percent.; Friday - Showers with a chance of thunderstorms. Highs (1 more message)

20:58 <jackygrahamez> &more

20:58 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: in the mid 60s. Southeast winds 10 to 15 mph...becoming southwest 15 to 20 mph in the afternoon. Chance of rain 90 percent.; Friday Night - Mostly cloudy. Lows in the mid 40s. West winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph.;

20:58 * jackygrahamez messing with VM Images

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21:04 <PovAddict> forget yes

21:04 <PovAddict> yes?

21:04 <PovAddict> someone must have deleted it while I was off IRC

21:05 <Tank_Master> howdy jacky

21:05 <MTughan> I did.

21:05 <jackygrahamez> hi Tank_Master

21:05 <Tank_Master> thx MT

21:06 <jackygrahamez> anybody ever try running a mac vm on a pc?

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21:23 <Tank_Master> guess not

21:23 <jackygrahamez> well I'll see if I can get it to work

21:30 <xcamel> laterz..

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21:36 <Soul_keeper>    lol

21:36 <Romulus> <> (at

21:36 <Soul_keeper> KathrynM might like that one

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21:40 <jackygrahamez> anyone try this?

21:40 <Romulus> <> (at

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22:16 <Soul_keeper>

22:16 <Romulus> <> (at

22:17 <MTughan> Anyone know what this means? "The extended attributes are inconsistent. (0xff) - exit code 255 (0xff)

22:17 <MTughan> "

22:20 <PovAddict> OS?

22:20 <Romulus> Somebody said OS is so damn sexy, PovAddict

22:20 <PovAddict> forget OS

22:20 <Romulus> Gotcha, PovAddict.

22:20 <MTughan> Vista Ultimate 32-bit.

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22:21 <PovAddict> my guess is an app is exiting with a custom code "0xff" and BOINC is interpreting that as a standard Windows error code

22:21 <PovAddict> which happens to mean "extended attributes inconsistent"

22:21 <MTughan> Hold on, I'll get the WU link.

22:21 <MTughan> Most of these.

22:21 <Romulus> <> (at

22:22 <PovAddict> yes, probably app quitting with custom code

22:22 <PovAddict> is the app open source?

22:22 <MTughan> Yes... I'll get a link.

22:22 <PovAddict> are you using a self-built app?

22:23 <MTughan>

22:23 <Romulus> <> (at

22:23 <MTughan> That's not my comp.

22:23 <PovAddict> oh :/

22:23 <MTughan> Someone reported the problem on the forums. I think he's using stock.

22:23 * PovAddict plays with ccache some more

22:23 <MTughan> It's a Q6600 B3 if that helps any.

22:27 <Soul_keeper> sounds like it is saying a file was modified, like an anti-cheat thing

22:28 <Soul_keeper> extended attributes should be like     last modification time, creation time, permissions maybe

22:34 <MTughan> w00t? New tab record in Firefox: 117.

22:34 <PovAddict> O_O

22:34 <PovAddict> screenshot or it didn't happen

22:34 <PovAddict> also, screenshot of process monitor showing memory usage

22:34 <MTughan> Actually, it'd be 118 tabs...

22:35 <jasong> Does anyone here have a Core2Quad 9550?

22:35 <MTughan> Process Monitor? I only have Task Manager. That work?

22:35 <jasong> The reason I ask is that it has a total cache of 12MB which is a little over 100 million bits, and...

22:36 <PovAddict> whatever

22:36 <PovAddict> process monitor, task manager, process explorer, top...

22:36 <infinisoft> :o.

22:36 <jasong> that makes the idea of running LLR tests that reside totally in cache potentially way more productive than they are

22:37 <jasong> Paging to RAM slows it down tremendously, so I'm wondering how high a specially made Linux distro could do an LLR test without it leaving the L2 cache

22:37 <MTughan>

22:37 <Romulus> <> (at

22:37 <MTughan>

22:37 <Romulus> <> (at

22:38 <jasong> Isn't there a formula to calculate how much memory an LLR test needs

22:38 <PovAddict> hugin is good btw

22:38 <jasong> Something like 8 bits of memory for every bit in the exponent or something

22:38 <MTughan> Ah, hugin is on the task list...

22:38 <MTughan> Yeah, trying it out.

22:38 <PovAddict> MTughan: in the tab list :)

22:38 <PovAddict> I didn't see the other pic yet

22:38 <MTughan> Oh, or that too.. xD

22:38 <PovAddict> you have a wikipedia:hugin page open

22:39 <MTughan> Yeah.

22:39 <PovAddict> Firefox3 clearly improved memory usage, I used to get 400MB usage with only a few dozen tabs

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22:39 <MTughan> That's actually fairly low. I've seen it up around 650MB, but yeah.

22:39 <MTughan> 118 tabs.

22:39 <jasong> Are there any good prime-hunting websites other than Mersenne Forum?  That place has too many conceited jackasses

22:40 <jasong> Can you do tabs within tabs?

22:40 <jasong> That would be a nifty ability

22:40 <MTughan> Nope.

22:40 <PovAddict> jasong: do you have Firefox?

22:40 <jasong> Another cool thing would be to make scripts quit working when they're not in the front

22:41 <jasong> yes, but I'm not sure which version

22:41 <jasong> I'll check

22:41 <jasong> 3.0.8, heh, I  didn't realize

22:41 <PovAddict> jasong: open this URL in a tab: chrome://browser/content/browser.xul

22:42 <jasong> Weird, a browser within a browser

22:43 <MTughan> PovAddict: Actually, true... That is a way to have tabs within tabs. No way to custom name the tabs though.

22:44 <jasong> oh, sorry, didn't catch on.  lol, yeah, that would work

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23:11 <jasong>

23:11 <Romulus> <> (at

23:11 <jasong> Here come the Cylons

23:12 <jasong> They're called Adam and Eve, and they're definitely eating from the "Tree of Knowledge" so the Cylon concept of things happening over and over again holds true

23:12 <jasong> Damn, I wish I'd discovered this article on April Fool's Day

23:13 <jasong> Well, Eve isn't around yet, but that could just be another corollary

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23:27 <zombie67> i use safari

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23:52 <jasong> Does Safari do the multi-tabbed thing we were talking about?

23:53 <MTughan> I haven't seen it.

23:53 <jasong> Thanks, but...zombie are you still here?

23:54 <jasong> MT says you use an Atom for crunching?

23:54 <MTughan> BTW, at least with Safari 4, I believe Firefox's tab handling is greatly superior to Safari's.

23:54 <jasong> Ok, doorbell feature time zombie67

23:54 <MTughan> It's possible others see it differently though.

23:54 <jasong> Yeah, no biggie, I just thought it would be a cool feature

23:55 <PovAddict> never tried safari4, never tried any safari on windows

23:56 <PovAddict> Safari on Windows sounds like IE on Mac to me...

23:56 <jasong> Oh, just to be ADD, I'm going to tell you  that I seem to be the only one in this town who seems to know what a biggie is.  Apparently, my family picked up the expression when we were in Europe

23:57 <jasong> Yeah, no Wendy's restaurants in Britain

23:57 <jasong> (yes, there is a connection between the last two posts)

23:58 * PovAddict wonders if Wendy's still\nexists in Argentina

23:58 * PovAddict wonders what he did to cause a \n in the message

23:59 <jasong> Yeah, that's weird

23:59 <jasong> Do you use a qwerty?

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