IRC logs of #boinc for Friday, 2009-04-03

00:00 <PovAddict> I'm IRCing from my ipod touch, ssh'ing to my desktop machine

00:00 <jasong> Wow, you have mad skills

00:00 <jasong> You doing regular surfing too?

00:00 <PovAddict> yes, tapping on a qwerty on-screen keyboard

00:01 <jasong> Do you type on a qwerty to do school stuff?

00:01 <PovAddict> well thats easier, built in web browser y'know :P

00:01 <PovAddict> school stuff, whats that?

00:02 <zombie67> here

00:02 <jasong> lol, I'll rephrase, what do you type on when you're typing your own language?

00:02 <PovAddict> I use qwerty always

00:02 <jasong> Is that unusual or normal?

00:02 <zombie67> sup?

00:02 <MTughan> zombie67: Yeah, jasong was asking about Atom crunching last night. Said you had one.

00:02 <zombie67> yep

00:02 <zombie67> what do you want to know?

00:02 <PovAddict> however, my symbol keys are in different place compared to US keyboards

00:03 <jasong> I saw that it gets about 565 boinc points as a RAC.  How does that compare to total cost?

00:03 <zombie67> lemme check my receipt

00:03 <PovAddict> but yeah, the vast majority of languages and countries in the world use qwerty (at least those with a latin alphabet)

00:03 <jasong> Also, how many watts does it use altogether?

00:04 * PovAddict doesnt remember what country uses 'azerty'

00:04 <zombie67> cpu + mobo was $154

00:04 <jasong> Sorry, POV, I got to talk to zombie while I have the chance :)

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00:04 <MTughan> PovAddict: Apparently French speaking nations.

00:05 <jasong> Oh, you built your own box?

00:05 <zombie67> 2gb dimm was $20

00:05 <PovAddict> ah yes, french

00:05 <zombie67> oh,  that was for the mobo + box + cpu

00:05 <zombie67> and then add a laptop drive

00:05 <jasong> So total was around $250 or so?

00:06 <zombie67> I already had one, but they aren't that much

00:06 <zombie67> yeah

00:06 * PovAddict wants to try dvorak or colemak some day

00:06 <efc> So Pov, where do I order a bride from the Moo page?

00:06 <jasong> Yeah, my dad has a 20GB hard drive that hasn't been used in forever

00:06 <Soul_keeper> you gotta pay a frenchman for dvorak, he says he has the patent and wants royalties from anyone of makes/uses it

00:06 <zombie67> not much RAC, but for the power cost, VERY competitive

00:07 <jasong> Does it need a fan when it runs at max?

00:07 <PovAddict> efc: I think you cant; but try the email address on top of the page

00:07 <zombie67> and power is really what gets you over time

00:07 <MTughan> Soul_keeper: Is his last name Dvorak?

00:07 <Soul_keeper> don't think so

00:07 <PovAddict> S_k: he can go burn in hell

00:08 <jasong> If his last name isn't Dvorak, how'd he claim the patent?

00:08 <jasong> makes no sense to me

00:08 <Soul_keeper> :)

00:08 <jasong> Unless he's a family memeber

00:08 <zombie67> there is a small fan in the box

00:08 <zombie67> but no HS on the CPU

00:09 <jasong> lol, not accusing you of anything, just a bit confused sk

00:09 <efc> Dvorak has been around forever, any patent is expired

00:09 <jasong> Yeah, that was what I thought

00:09 <zombie67> patent laws vary by country

00:10 <efc> Well, stay out of France :)

00:10 <jasong> yeah, but if it expired in the country it was patented in, I think that would be the most important thing

00:10 <zombie67> or if you are chinese, you can just ignore it

00:10 <PovAddict> I doubt he has a patent in my country... and he can go burn in hell *either way* :)

00:11 <efc> considering all you have to do is pop the keys off and rearrange them..

00:11 <zombie67> switching to my TV room laptop

00:11 <zombie67> brn

00:11 <zombie67> brb

00:11 <jasong> If someone patented something, licensed it to a company, and after the patent expired the company wanted to sue me for using it, I would hope they wouldn't have laws that would let the company win in court

00:11 <PovAddict> most operating systems have dvorak layout built in

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00:12 <Soul_keeper>   here's some discussion on it

00:12 <Romulus> <> (at

00:12 <jasong> lol, I don't want to read, I want to kill thime in irc

00:13 <Soul_keeper> look at that lower post  lol    "here's his email if you want to tell him he's a dic......."

00:13 <PovAddict> I read LEGO was having trouble trying to stop competitors... their patent for the brick design is long expired

00:13 <jasong> I want someone to invent a virtual reality helmet that simulates echoes as if everyone is really in a room.  Go searching for zombie or POV by having them yell,"over here"

00:14 <efc> There have been clones for years..

00:14 <efc> Usually not very good ones

00:14 <MTughan> PovAddict: That may be, but I've found that LEGO has the best quality bricks.

00:14 <MTughan> They feel solid.

00:14 <PovAddict> MTughan: of course

00:14 <jasong> Knockoffs generally tend to be worse

00:14 <efc> The tolerances are actually pretty tight to have them be easy to assemble, but hold pretty well

00:14 <jasong> that goes for anythign

00:15 <MTughan> efc: Yep.

00:15 <PovAddict> I've seen others... sometimes no all bricks attach to others properly :/

00:15 <efc> It would be nice if some cloners could get their act together well enough to make bulk bricks

00:15 <jasong> Saw my first 3d movie with the new technology

00:15 <PovAddict> LEGO uses ridiculously precise tolerances

00:15 <jasong> Monsters vs Aliens

00:15 <efc> So you could get a pound of 2x4s at a reasonable price

00:16 <PovAddict> efc: LEGO sells bulk bags... not sure about reasonable price tho

00:16 <Soul_keeper> there was a court battle in an australian court recently about some guy claiming he owns the patent for the wheel ...

00:17 <PovAddict> 100x 2x4 yellow bricks

00:17 <Soul_keeper> I think he won to some extent, don't remember the specifics

00:18 <PovAddict> S_k: he wanted to prove the new patent fast-track policy was flawed; applied a patent for the wheel and got it granted

00:18 <Soul_keeper> ahh

00:18 <MTughan> There was like an 8-year old in the US who did the same thing. Don't remember what he patented.

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00:19 <MTughan> wb zombie67

00:19 <PovAddict> method for balancing on a swing

00:19 <MTughan> That was it.

00:19 <jasong> That just proves to me that the world is a well-run anarchy

00:19 <Soul_keeper> I should patent the mud on my boots and sell it to some sorry sap

00:19 <MTughan> Then shoot him with your semi-auto?

00:19 <Soul_keeper> ")

00:20 <Soul_keeper> :)

00:20 <jasong> Nobody cares anymore what the law actually says, they just want to give themselves imaginary rights

00:20 <PovAddict> trademark 'BOINC' before UCB does

00:21 <Soul_keeper> like that guy that bought  before mp3's became popular,  sold it for like 60 million

00:21 <Soul_keeper> prolly cost him 30 bucks to buy the domain name

00:21 <MTughan> Buy :)

00:21 <jasong> &google

00:21 <Romulus> jasong: Search took 0.16 seconds: FLAC - Free Lossless Audio Codec: <>; FLAC - download: <>; Free Lossless Audio Codec - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <>; Four Lakes Athletic Club - Serving Elkhorn, Lake Geneva, Delavan ...: <>; Cherry Adair (2 more messages)

00:22 <Soul_keeper> I think that was the guy that went on to do  lindows  and MS sued him

00:22 <jasong> &more

00:22 <Romulus> jasong: Romance Novels Adventure Romance Books New York Times ...: <>; Flac Free Download: <>; Flic- - Flic Flac: <>; Informations sur le domaine flic- <>; Flic en Flac Mauritius , Hotels on the Beach: (1 more message)

00:22 <jasong> aww, crap, nothing but crap

00:22 <PovAddict> i think someone made some good\nmoney off apple for an iphone-related domain name

00:22 <MTughan> &google

00:22 <Romulus> MTughan: No matches found. (Search took 0.29 seconds)

00:22 <MTughan> :D

00:22 <jasong> lol

00:22 <jasong> Go for it MT

00:23 <jasong> It's actually a pretty good gamble in my opinion

00:23 <Soul_keeper> just search on any domain site like  or   they'll tell you if it's taken

00:23 <jasong> How much would it cost to simply hold onto the domain for 5 years or so?

00:23 <Soul_keeper> is

00:23 <PovAddict> ICANN is making new top-level domain names this year

00:23 <jasong> After buying it, I mean

00:23 <Soul_keeper> jasong, I have like 4 domains i've had for a few years

00:23 <PovAddict> like .blog

00:24 <Soul_keeper> it's like 20 bucks or year or something cheap

00:24 <jasong> The country of Tuvala has made a ton of money with the TLD .tv

00:24 <jasong>, hmmmmm

00:25 <PovAddict> S_k: I heard some of those sites auto-register domains when you see if they are available, so then you have no choice but buying it from *them*

00:25 <jasong> How hard is it to make the purchase?  Can it be done totally online

00:25 <Soul_keeper>  is open tho ...

00:25 <MTughan> You'll need to find a registrar.

00:25 <jasong> But wouldn't it show up as registered then?

00:25 <jasong> If were held or reserved?

00:25 <Soul_keeper> yes all online

00:25 <PovAddict> jasong: not on *their*site

00:26 <jasong> oh, I see, they'd register it right after I checked

00:26 <MTughan> WTF? I just tried going to, and it went to

00:26 <jasong> nice

00:26 <jasong> So it IS taken

00:26 <MTughan> I guess...

00:26 <Soul_keeper> there is actually a site where people bid for domain names

00:26 <Soul_keeper> like ebay

00:27 <jasong> yep,

00:27 <jasong> took a while

00:27 <Soul_keeper> I own   :)

00:28 <MTughan> Oh, we misunderstood SK...

00:28 <Soul_keeper> might be saleable someday

00:28 <jasong> It sucks that that's what the site goes to, I doubt they have anything to do with the flac codec

00:28 <PovAddict> Fox Latin American Channel

00:28 <MTughan> Soul_keeper> just search on any domain site like  or   they'll tell you if it's taken

00:28 <MTughan> <Soul_keeper> is

00:28 <jasong> wow, I didn't know that

00:28 <jasong> Fox Latin American Channel

00:29 <Soul_keeper> overcharges tho

00:29 <PovAddict> found it googling

00:29 <PovAddict> &google foxstore

00:29 <Romulus> PovAddict: Search took 0.25 seconds: Contact Us - Fox Kansas: <>; FOX Frequently Asked Questions: <>; MyFox Nepa | FAQs: <>; SEC Info - Fox (2 more messages)

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00:29 <jasong> foxkansas

00:30 <MTughan> Found an "open" one:

00:30 <MTughan> There's something sitting on it though. Damn squatters.

00:30 <jasong> I hear that the news anchors can get fired if they say Arkansas correctly on air

00:30 <MTughan> It's GoDaddy too.

00:30 <PovAddict> damn squatters? you're trying to be one! :P

00:30 <MTughan> So? :P

00:30 <jasong> lol, you tell him POV

00:32 <jasong> Speaking of patenting stuff, someone needs to make sure the Hydrogen@Home dude understands the law, or at least gets help with it before he possibly discovers something important

00:32 <jasong> Same thing with a lot of the other projects

00:32 <MTughan> That'd be jackygrahmez.

00:33 <jasong> Jacky?  Lawyer or H@H person

00:33 <MTughan> H@H admin.

00:33 <jasong> ah, ok

00:33 <jasong> the name sounded familiar

00:33 <MTughan> Yeah, he comes on here.

00:33 <MTughan> &any jackygrahmez

00:33 <Romulus> MTughan: I have not seen jackygrahmez.

00:33 <MTughan> &any jackygrahamez

00:33 <Romulus> MTughan: jackygrahamez was last seen in #boinc 2 hours, 27 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: *** jackygrahamez has quit IRC ("IceChat - Its what Cool People use")

00:34 <jasong> I hope they post an RSS when they start majorly spitting out workunits

00:34 <jasong> oh, an added a, I was confused by that for a good 30 seconds

00:35 <MTughan> I had to think how Graham was spelt. ;)

00:35 <jasong> I need to go to bed at a decent time tonight, I'm obviously not performing at my best

00:36 <PovAddict> 1.30am here

00:37 <jasong> Yeah, but the last couple nights I've been going to bed at 5am.  I shouldn't be doing that

00:37 <jasong> 330am is pushing it, 5 am is insane

00:38 <jasong> 1am is optimal, 2am is what I shoot for, but normally overshoot

00:38 <jasong> I get up at 10am, btw

00:38 <jasong> 5 hours sleep is a good way to cause burnout

00:39 <PovAddict> I'll have to wake up at 7am again, for meds

00:39 <Soul_keeper> dang, took 70hrs to go 10% on a WU for my Eee

00:39 <jasong> I have the same IQ as my coworkers when I pull that crap ;)

00:39 <MTughan> 700 hours total...

00:39 <MTughan> &math convert 700 hours to days

00:39 <Romulus> MTughan: 29.1666666667

00:39 <MTughan> Ouch.

00:39 <MTughan> What project?

00:39 <jasong> When's it due?

00:40 <jasong> Sometimes those checkpoints don't give accurate percentages

00:40 <Soul_keeper> the clean energy project  for WCG

00:40 <PovAddict> gnight

00:40 <jasong> good night

00:41 <MTughan> Night Pov.

00:41 <jasong> Don't cry for Madonna

00:41 <Soul_keeper> [Mar 30 21:59:38]  <Soul_keeper> lol  i've been running a  wcg WU for  60.75 hours on my Eee and it's 69%  done ...

00:41 * PovAddict hopes to survive the night, as he has been hoping the past 7 days

00:41 <Soul_keeper> [Apr 02 21:39:51]  now and 79%   lol

00:44 <MTughan> xD

00:47 <jasong> This is weird...I'm figuring out the price per gigabyte in the Tiger Direct advert magazine, and 160GB is the winner

00:47 <Soul_keeper>

00:47 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Pogo Stick Backflip Fail, PWNED (at

00:47 <jasong> I thought 320GB was supposed to be optimal, but it's not even close, it's on of the highest

00:47 <Soul_keeper> the magazine likely don't have the best prices

00:50 <jasong> true

01:01 <Tank_Master> so, did anything come of that confucker virus?

01:01 <wdsmia> asks Tank_Master to please watch his or her language Thanks, your friendly channel op.

01:01 <MTughan> Not that I know of.

01:01 <Tank_Master> figures

01:01 <Tank_Master> so much for the media hupla

01:01 <MTughan> All it should've done though is download stuff. It may not be ready to strike yet.

01:02 <MTughan> And the hoopla was well deserved. The biggest things that took it down was the fact that the DNS lookup function was cracked and a lot of the DNS names seized.

01:03 <PovAddict> april 1 is when it started working differently... today and tomorrow it will be the same

01:08 <Tank_Master> still expected to her *something* about it by now...

01:09 <Tank_Master> and your right that the anti hacker hackers did their job :P

01:09 <PovAddict> typical media hype

01:10 <BadBarbarian> hi tank

01:11 <Tank_Master> hody BB

01:11 <PovAddict> almost every year here has been a bad worm/trojan with a trigger date, and news exaggerated greatly what would happen that day, painting apocalyptic scenarios...

01:11 <Tank_Master> hype sells

01:11 <PovAddict> and in all cases. nothing too portant happened...

01:11 <Tank_Master> not news

01:12 <Tank_Master> not to mention it used a known vunerbility that had been patched...

01:12 <Tank_Master> thus limiting what computers it could attack

01:13 <PovAddict> well, it showed what a disturbing number of machines have updates off

01:13 <Tank_Master> agreed

01:14 <jasong> God, I've been using Linux for a couple years or more I think, and yet I still manage to majorly screw something up at least once every few months

01:14 <Tank_Master> welcome to lunix

01:15 <jasong> I can't use flash because I accidentally tried to install the adobe version when it should have been shockwave

01:15 <Tank_Master> the OS of choice to screw yourself over

01:15 <PovAddict> restore from backup :)

01:15 <jasong> No, that's Windows

01:15 <Tank_Master> no, in windows someone else does it fr you

01:15 <Tank_Master> :P

01:15 <jasong> Actually, except for video files, there's nothing really important to worry about

01:16 <PovAddict> jasong: huh, adobe bought shockwave years ago

01:16 <Tank_Master> I keep all my data I care about on a HD other than the OS drive

01:16 <jasong> As much time as I spend on the Internet, my most important contribution is my donated computer power

01:16 <PovAddict> hmm or was it called macromedia

01:16 <jasong> really

01:16 <Tank_Master> adobe owns both now, pov

01:16 <jasong> I dunno what's screwed up then

01:17 <jasong> Flash plugin seems to hate Linux, you have to dig in the forums and do some really esoteric stuff to get it working semi-well

01:18 * jasong hopes he used esoteric properly

01:18 * jasong doubts that's true though

01:18 <Tank_Master> if you want a computer to be easy to set up, get a mac

01:18 <jasong> &google esoteric definition

01:18 <Romulus> jasong: Search took 0.17 seconds: esoteric - definition of esoteric by the Free Online Dictionary ...: <>; esoteric - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary: <>; esoteric definition | <>; esoteric : Definition , Synonyms from (2 more messages)

01:18 <Tank_Master> though then you cant to squat with it

01:18 <jasong> Yeah, Macs suck

01:19 <Tank_Master> and are overpriced

01:19 <jasong> Macs are for people too stupid to know they're cattle

01:19 <Tank_Master> lol

01:19 <PovAddict> my Flash on Linux has been broken for a few weeks too

01:19 <MTughan> I still like NeXTSTEP's development model.

01:20 <MTughan> I'm not going to diss Java or C++'s model, but not having to write any code for a GUI? Very nice.

01:21 <Tank_Master> :)

01:22 <PovAddict> see xaml

01:23 <PovAddict> also, both gtk and qt have the equivalent of .nibs by now...

01:23 <MTughan> And how far behind were they?

01:23 <MTughan> NeXTSTEP had this around 1993-1994. OS X started in 2001.

01:25 <PovAddict> Windows dialog resources work similarlt in theory... they quite suck in practice :)

01:27 <PovAddict> also, not sure how useful that separation really is... see konfabulator... how many people put jusr a script tag in the .kon, instead of making the UI declaratively there?

01:27 <MTughan> That's not the same. You're still making code for it.

01:28 <MTughan> It's similar to putting GUI code in one module, and logic code in another.

01:29 <PovAddict> declarative vs procedural matters

01:29 <PovAddict> GUI makers for K didnt really catch on, did they?

01:37 <efc> &wx 31088

01:37 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 64F / 18C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.50in / 999hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 13mph / 20km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers and isolated thunderstorms. Lows in the upper 50s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.; Friday - Mostly sunny. Windy. Highs in the lower 70s. West winds 15 (1 more message)

01:38 <efc> &more

01:38 <Romulus> efc: to 25 mph.; Friday Night - Mostly clear. Lows in the mid 40s. Northwest winds up to 10 mph.; Flood Warning for Houston County in effect until 4:24 AM EDT on April 06, 2009;

01:40 <efc> &wx milledgville, ga

01:40 <Romulus> efc: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error

01:40 <Tank_Master> lol

01:41 <Tank_Master> weather is to nasty to display

01:41 <efc> &wx milledgeville, ga

01:41 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 62F / 17C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.49in / 998hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Showers likely with isolated thunderstorms. Lows in the upper 50s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 60 percent.; Friday - Sunny...windy. Highs in the mid 70s. West winds 15 to 25 mph.; Friday Night - Mostly (1 more message)

01:41 <efc> &more

01:41 <Romulus> efc: clear. Lows in the mid 40s. West winds 5 to 15 mph decreasing to around 5 mph after midnight.; Flood Warning, Areal Flood Warning for Baldwin County in effect until 5:00 PM EDT on April 03, 2009;

01:42 <efc> lot of rivers about 5 feet above flood stage

02:06 <BadBarbarian> &wx 86023

02:06 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 47F / 8.3C | Humidity: 46% | Pressure: in / hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9.7km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Breezy. Partly cloudy. Lows around 33 on the North Rim to around 51 along the Colorado River. South winds 15 to 25 mph.; Friday - Very windy. Cooler. Mostly cloudy with a 30 percent chance of rain showers. Highs around 42 (2 more messages)

02:06 <BadBarbarian> &more

02:06 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: on the North Rim to around 70 along the Colorado River. South winds around 15 mph with gusts to around 35 mph increasing to southwest 25 to 40 mph with gusts to around 50 mph.; Friday Night - Windy. Mostly cloudy. Snow and rain showers likely in the evening...a chance of rain and snow showers after midnight. Snow accumulation up to 1 inch. Snow level 6000 feet decreasing to 5000 feet (1 more message)

02:06 <BadBarbarian> &more

02:06 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: after midnight. Lows around 26 on the North Rim to around 44 along the Colorado River. Southwest winds 25 to 35 mph with gusts to around 50 mph decreasing to 15 to 25 mph in the late evening and overnight. Chance of precipitation 60 percent.; Wind Advisory for Coconino County in effect until 8:00 PM MST on April 03, 2009;

02:09 <zombie67> mweltin shut down tsp?

02:09 <MTughan> No idea.

02:09 <BadBarbarian> hey Z

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02:24 <efc> Roomba broke my spliced phone cord

02:28 <jasong> Did you read on the Roomba forums about how to deal with animals attacking the Roomba?

02:28 <jasong> Quite entertaining

02:28 <efc> Attach an Aliens-style automatic cannon?

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02:29 <efc> Also, defends against Aliens.

02:29 <jasong> Apparently, the most effective deterrent is to scold the Roomba in front of the aggressive animal

02:29 <jasong> Shake your finger at it and call it a bad, bad Roomba

02:30 <jasong> The animals then believe that they are higher in the pecking order than the Roomba and proceed to ignore it

02:30 <efc> Haha

02:31 <efc> But it could hurt the Roomba's feelings

02:33 <efc> So, NK is working on a communications satellite. Probably a 10-15 kiloton Communications Satellite.

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02:49 <jasong> NK?

02:49 <Romulus> It has been said that NK is prone to butthead dictators... otherwise, I'd have to go look, jasong

02:49 <jasong> Romulus?

02:49 <jasong> jasong?

02:50 <jasong> lol, now it's quit working

02:50 <jasong> NK?

02:50 <Romulus> hmm... NK is prone to butthead dictators... otherwise, I'd have to go look, jasong

02:50 <jasong> Arkansas?

02:50 <jasong> US?

02:50 <jasong> Peculiar

02:51 <efc> north korea

02:52 <MTughan> BOINC?

02:52 <Romulus> BOINC is all perfect and stuff, MTughan

02:54 <jasong> I don't think we should sanction North Korea.  We should give the country and the dictator continuous aid and use that as a carrot, in my opinion

02:55 <jasong> It's worse than a third world country from what I hear, so it wouldn't take much money at all to get them in our pocket

02:55 <jasong> errr, I phrased that badly

02:55 <jasong> Wrapped around our little finger?

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02:56 <jasong> Question:  If Obama proves to be the most popular president in recent time, have white people been pwned?

02:56 <jasong> ;)

02:57 <Tank_Master> apparently meny from europ look up to his wife as a fasion star...

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05:09 <MTughan> Morn CFL.

05:09 <CoderForLife> &more

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05:10 <CoderForLife> &more

05:10 <Romulus> CoderForLife: 03, 2009;

05:10 <CoderForLife> morning MTughan

05:15 <MTughan> Well, new tab record for Firefox... Even though I just broke my old one a couple hours ago.

05:15 <MTughan>

05:15 <Romulus> <> (at

05:16 <MTughan> Do I have like a tab fetish or something?

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05:21 <CoderForLife> now *that's* a lot of tabs

05:21 <MTughan> The thing is, most of them are useful, or I think they will be of some use in the future.

05:27 <CoderForLife> um "bookmarks"

05:27 <CoderForLife> brb   breakfast

05:27 <MTughan> lol, I don't know that I've actually ever used bookmarks.

05:27 <MTughan> K.

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05:33 <CoderForLife> b

05:34 <CoderForLife> I'm running "late" this morning

05:35 <MTughan> My fault?

05:38 <CoderForLife> you have a complex on top of your tab fetish - not your fault

05:39 <MTughan> lol... Was wondering if I should just leave you alone for now.

05:39 <CoderForLife> I am skilled - I can chew and read at the same time

05:40 <MTughan> Multitasking is good.

05:44 <CoderForLife> so are eating and reading

05:44 <MTughan> Isn't that the same thing as chewing and reading?

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05:46 <CoderForLife> I guess chewing doesn't necessarily imply swallowing

05:47 <MTughan> True, but at that point I'd be wondering what you're chewing.

05:48 <CoderForLife> "Dear USAA Customer,

05:48 <CoderForLife> We would like to inform to you that we have released new a version of USAA Confirmation Form. This form is required to be completed by all USAA customers. Please use the button below in order to access the form:  hank you,

05:48 <CoderForLife> USAA"

05:49 <CoderForLife> looks legit

05:49 <CoderForLife> it even has the USAA logo

05:49 <CoderForLife> I didn't realize I was a customer

05:49 <MTughan> :P

05:53 <CoderForLife> OK - I must ready for w@#% get - use the button below to access preparations - it is obligatory for all w@#% customers

05:54 <CoderForLife> bbiab

05:54 <MTughan> I'm probably going to try and grab what sleep I can, despite the time.

05:55 <MTughan> As soon as I get some MW work...

05:55 <MTughan> Good.

05:57 <MTughan> Well, ttyl.

06:31 <CoderForLife> back

06:35 <CoderForLife> on the rims and out the door - tgif

06:35 <CoderForLife> laterz

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06:41 <PovAddict> yawn

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08:13 <xcamel> 'lo

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08:40 <xcamel> &wx 12074

08:40 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 51.3F / 10.7C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 29.66in / 1004.3hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Rain this morning...then periods of rain with a chance of thunderstorms this afternoon. Highs in the upper 50s. East winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain near 100 percent.; Tonight - Rain with a chance of thunderstorms (1 more message)

08:40 <xcamel> &more

08:40 <Romulus> xcamel: in the evening...then showers likely after midnight. Lows in the mid 40s. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph...becoming south 10 to 15 mph after midnight. Chance of rain 90 percent.; Saturday - Mostly cloudy with a 50 percent chance of showers. Windy. Near steady temperature in the upper 40s. West winds 20 to 30 mph with gusts up to 45 mph.;

09:42 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

09:42 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 48.7F / 9.3C | Humidity: 89% | Pressure: 29.25in / 990.4hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 3.1mph / 5.0km/h ; Today - Cloudy. Showers with isolated thunderstorms this morning. Breezy with highs in the mid 50s. West winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 30 mph...increasing to 15 to 25 mph with gusts up to 40 mph late this morning and (2 more messages)

09:43 <CoderForLife> &more

09:43 <Romulus> CoderForLife: afternoon. Chance of rain 90 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening...then clearing. Breezy with lows in the mid 30s. Northwest winds 20 to 25 mph with gusts up to 40 mph...becoming west 5 to 10 mph after midnight.; Saturday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the lower 60s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Special Weather Statement for Hamilton County in effect until 10:30 AM EDT on April (1 more message)

09:43 <CoderForLife> &more

09:43 <Romulus> CoderForLife: 03, 2009;

09:43 <CoderForLife> 40 mph winds on trees with wet feet

09:43 <xcamel> cooled off..

09:44 <CoderForLife> yeah 75F yesterday for awhile

09:44 <CoderForLife> you're @ home today?

09:44 <CoderForLife> travel prep?

09:44 <xcamel> packing, getting the farm ready to go..

09:44 <CoderForLife> sure

09:45 <xcamel> not at the moment... it's pouring

09:45 <xcamel> need to go get feed when it lets up a bit

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09:52 * KathrynM waves

09:52 <xcamel> hi

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09:52 <KathrynM> hiya xcamel, how the animals doing?

09:53 <xcamel> fine

09:53 <KathrynM> good

09:53 <KathrynM> how you doing?

09:53 <xcamel> getting ready to head to mexico

09:53 <KathrynM> I'm jealous

09:54 <xcamel> spring break

09:54 <KathrynM> :)

09:54 <KathrynM> I could use a vacation.

09:54 <KathrynM> I don't think I have any time off until the end of July.

09:54 <xcamel> I really need it. been a very long winter

09:54 <KathrynM> All the freaking bank holidays fall on Frriday this year

09:54 <noren> hi all

09:54 <KathrynM> hi noren, did you get things working?

09:55 <noren> yes today i was able to run seti and abc project m but the einstien is still giving me some prob

09:56 <KathrynM> can you give me a link to your computers at E@H?

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11:12 <noren> hi all

11:19 <noren> how can i know what version of client i am running i got that from ubuntu repos

11:20 <PovAddict> it's shown as the very first message (in Messages tab)

11:22 <PovAddict> KathrynM: ok I just pretended he wasn't as crazy as I actually think he is

11:23 <noren> PovAddict: are u saying crazy to me ??

11:24 <PovAddict> noren: no, someone else on boinc_dev mailing lists

11:26 <noren> ah ok !!, i did some google and want to learn abt starting the suda, i.e want to use the gpu also for the number crunching any advice with that

11:27 <PovAddict> heh, I suggest you get the basics (CPU crunching Einstein correctly) working first :)

11:28 <noren> PovAddict: i today suscesfully updated one wu in abc project :)

11:28 <PovAddict> what GPU do you have?

11:28 <noren> i am using boinc client version 6.2.18 i guess is it suffcient for GPU computing

11:28 <PovAddict> no, you need 6.4 for GPU

11:29 <noren> i have nvidia 8600gt

11:29 <PovAddict> same as me :) I think it can't do CUDA...

11:29 <PovAddict> not sure

11:29 <Tank_Master> it can

11:30 <Tank_Master> all 8xxx can afaik

11:31 <Soul_keeper> yes

11:31 <Soul_keeper> 8-series and higher

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11:36 <noren_> oh sorry got DC

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11:43 <Tank_Master> happens

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11:44 <Tank_Master> wb

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11:55 <PovAddict> KathrynM: email

11:59 <noren_> is there a limit to the no of task to be run simultaneously

11:59 <Tank_Master> its one task mer thread your cpu can run

12:00 <Tank_Master> per*

12:00 <Tank_Master> ie - core2quad can run 4 threads so you can only run 4 tasks at once

12:01 <noren_> i have got amd dual processor does it help

12:02 <noren_> but i m running only 2 task atm

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12:07 <PovAddict> well duh

12:08 <Tank_Master> lol

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12:19 <xcamel> ho humm

12:19 <MTughan> 'lo Jay

12:19 <xcamel> hi

12:25 <Soul_keeper> I WIN !

12:27 <MTughan> ?

12:28 <Soul_keeper> i'm just a winner

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12:59 <MTughan> 'lo yoyo

13:00 <yoyo[RKN]> re

13:03 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx sxf

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13:03 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 68°F / 20°C | Humidity: 40% | Pressure: 30.01in / 1016hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h | Updated: 6:50 PM CEST; Clear. High:68 F.; Clear. Low:42 F.; Chance of Rain. High:71 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:50 F.; Chance of Rain. High:62 F.; Clear. Low:35 F.;

13:03 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx eze

13:03 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 76.8°F / 24.9°C | Humidity: 61% | Pressure: 29.75in / 1007.3hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 12.0mph / 19.3km/h | Updated: 2:03 PM ART; Chance of Rain. High:78 F.; Thunderstorm. Low:62 F.; Rain. High:77 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:46 F.; Clear. High:80 F.; Clear. Low:60 F.;

13:04 <yoyo[RKN]> !weather sxf

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13:30 <XioNYC> &wx LGA

13:30 <Romulus> XioNYC: Temperature: 46F / 8C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 29.30in / 992hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 15mph / 24km/h ; This Afternoon - Areas of fog early. Periods of rain early...then showers and thunderstorms. Some thunderstorms may produce gusty winds and small hail. Highs in the upper 50s. Southeast winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain near 100 (2 more messages)

13:30 <XioNYC> &more

13:30 <Romulus> XioNYC: percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers with a slight chance of thunderstorms in the evening...then a slight chance of showers after midnight. Windy with lows in the mid 40s. Southwest winds 15 to 20 mph...becoming west 15 to 25 mph with gusts up to 40 mph after midnight. Chance of rain 50 percent.; Saturday - Partly sunny and windy. Highs in the upper 50s. West winds 20 to 30 (1 more message)

13:30 <XioNYC> &more

13:30 <Romulus> XioNYC: mph with gusts up to 45 mph.; Special Weather Statement for Queens County in effect until 8:00 PM EDT on April 03, 2009;

13:31 <Soul_keeper> &wx 91977

13:31 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 59.4F / 15.2C | Humidity: 68% | Pressure: 29.24in / 990.1hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 8.1mph / 13.0km/h ; Rest of Today - Areas of fog in the morning. Cloudy with a slight chance of rain in the morning...then partly cloudy in the afternoon. Visibility one quarter mile or less at times in the morning. Highs 57 to 62. Light (1 more message)

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14:41 <wdsmia_w> &wx 50319

14:41 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: 50.9F / 10.5C | Humidity: 37% | Pressure: 29.82in / 1009.7hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Rest of Today - Sunny. High in the mid 50s. Northeast wind near 10 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Low in the mid 30s. East wind 5 to 10 mph.; Saturday - Mostly cloudy with a 40 percent chance of light rain. Breezy. High in (1 more message)

14:42 <wdsmia_w> &more

14:42 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: the mid 50s. East wind 10 to 20 mph increasing to 20 to 25 mph in the afternoon. Gusts up to 35 mph.;

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15:04 <Tank_Master> &wx 97123

15:04 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 47.9F / 8.8C | Humidity: 66% | Pressure: 30.11in / 1019.5hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 4.0mph / 6.4km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy with a slight chance of showers in the morning...then partly sunny in the afternoon. Highs around 50. Northwest wind 5 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Patchy fog overnight. Lows 30 to 35. Northwest (1 more message)

15:04 <Tank_Master> &more

15:04 <Romulus> Tank_Master: wind 5 to 15 mph becoming light after midnight.; Saturday - Mostly sunny. Patchy fog in the morning. Highs around 60. Northeast wind 10 mph.;

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15:40 <mweltin> MTughan: turns out pigdin doesn't have a script, handles everything from their "account manager" but thanks.

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16:18 <CoderForLife> home again

16:18 <CoderForLife> tgif

16:20 <CoderForLife> bbiab   dinner

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16:42 <CoderForLife> re-hi

16:44 <Soul_keeper> I want nothing more than to punch each and every person in the face on irc

16:46 <XioNYC> You need help, Soul_keeper.  Or a shoot-'em-up video game.

16:47 <Soul_keeper> yeah I havn't played my violent video game in weeks solely because of boinc

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16:49 <XioNYC> Should you decide to go on a murderous rampage in lieu of pixelated bloodiness, please make sure that you shoot _yourself_ prior to wreaking devastation elsewhere.

16:49 <XioNYC> I'm outta here - see you guys later.

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17:02 <Soul_keeper>

17:08 <mweltin> million no trillion dollar idea there Soul_keeper

17:42 <Soul_keeper>   stupid bastards,  Gotta have a customized kernel from them to make their module work

17:42 <Romulus> <> (at

17:47 <Soul_keeper> guess I need to branch the stupid project for the 3rd time, if i want it to work outside of a debian patched kernel

17:47 <wdsmia> re-hi

17:48 <CoderForLife> hi Doug

17:48 <wdsmia> TGIF

17:48 <CoderForLife> very indeed

17:48 <CoderForLife> the older I get, the indeeder it gets

17:53 * CoderForLife reads the local power company year-end Environmental Disclosure

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17:55 <CoderForLife> 80% coal, 20% purchased

17:56 * CoderForLife puts on his cap, and trades with wdsmia

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18:07 <CoderForLife> look out

18:07 <Rookie_69> I didn't do it!

18:07 <wdsmia> who let him in?

18:07 <Rookie_69> You left the back door open again.

18:08 <CoderForLife> ugh

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18:09 <CoderForLife> I hate it when we forget to latch the screen door

18:10 * CoderForLife pays the bills

18:10 <xcamel> re-hi

18:10 <Rookie_69> Hi, Jay.

18:11 <wdsmia> *lo Jay all packed?

18:11 <xcamel> mostly

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18:13 <Rookie_69> Oh yeah... bills... That gives me one more job to do tomorrow.

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18:15 <xcamel> 'lo Glenn

18:20 <xcamel> the part I hate worst is getting up at oh-stupid-thirty

18:21 <CoderForLife> are you sure there's even oxygen in the air at that time?

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18:49 <xcamel> I fairly sure there isn't enough air

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18:55 <xcamel> mw just will not get work..

18:58 <wdsmia> tell us something we dont know...

19:04 <CoderForLife> I'm going to wander away - safe travels xcamel - laterz all

19:04 <xcamel> you CUDA hogs broke it.

19:04 <xcamel> laterz, Don.

19:14 <xcamel> &wx MMLP

19:14 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 77°F / 25°C | Humidity: 54% | Pressure: 29.85in / 1011hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 12mph / 18km/h | Updated: 3:47 PM MST; Scattered Clouds. High:82 F.; Partly Cloudy. Low:60 F.; Scattered Clouds. High:84 F.; Partly Cloudy. Low:62 F.; Scattered Clouds. High:80 F.; Partly Cloudy. Low:64 F.;

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19:53 * wdsmia slaps Tank_Master with a Sea urchin

19:53 * Tank_Master stabs wdsmia with a sawfish

19:54 * Rookie_69 slaps Tank_Master around a bit with a leaky valve.

19:54 <Rookie_69> Jiggle the handle!

19:54 * Tank_Master slaps Rookie_69 around with some hardened puddy

19:58 * BadBarbarian slaps Tank_Master with a rainbow trout

19:59 * wdsmia slaps BadBarbarian around with a large Carp

19:59 * Rookie_69 has a hard enough time slapping in one colour.

20:11 <Romulus> slaps everybody

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20:15 <wdsmia> everybody nickname was taken

20:18 <Rookie_69> That's a pretty good excuse for poor typing.

20:18 * Rookie_69 ducks.

20:21 * wdsmia shoots the duck

20:24 <Rookie_69> Wabbit season!

20:25 <Rookie_69> Wdsnia season?

20:25 <Rookie_69> Oops.

20:25 <Rookie_69> Wdsmia season.

20:25 <wdsmia> That's a pretty good excuse for poor typing.

20:25 <Rookie_69> Lol.

20:27 <Rookie_69> Fumble finger syndrome here... What's your excuse?

20:27 <wdsmia> Friday

20:28 <Rookie_69> hat works.

20:28 <Rookie_69> T

20:29 * Rookie_69 gives up on typing.

20:29 <wdsmia> when did you start?

20:30 <Rookie_69> I tried to start... Or I started to try... once.

20:30 <Rookie_69> Once!

20:30 <xcamel> ounce?

20:31 <xcamel> qwerty ergo typo.

20:31 <Rookie_69> Nouveau Greco?

20:32 <Rookie_69> Okay... Roman, not Greek.

20:33 <Rookie_69> Nouveau Latino?

20:33 <wdsmia> Geek!

20:33 <Rookie_69> Where?

20:33 <xcamel> I type, therefore I misspell

20:34 <Rookie_69> Can't have said that one better.

20:34 * wdsmia is fluent in typo

20:35 <Rookie_69> Sort of like mom's knitting... Knit one, purl two, tear out three.

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20:52 <xcamel> laterz..

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21:10 <Rookie_69> zretal.

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22:07 <Soul_keeper> damn my life is empty

22:08 <Rookie_69> My life is full, bit it's full of bullshit.

22:08 <wdsmia> asks Rookie_69 to please watch his or her language Thanks, your friendly channel op.

22:08 <PovAddict> my intestines are full, I don't need to say what of

22:09 <Soul_keeper> I've basically been sitting at an irc console for 12yrs

22:09 <Soul_keeper> don't even know any real people

22:09 <wdsmia> you are what you ...

22:10 <Rookie_69> Hey! I'm sort of real.

22:10 <Soul_keeper> I don't even have any "family" to talk to

22:10 <Rookie_69> I haven't been here twelve years yet though.

22:11 <Rookie_69> I got family about 1200 miles away...

22:11 <Rookie_69> ... last time I checked.

22:12 <wdsmia> they want him to move farther away

22:12 <Soul_keeper> I recieved 3 phone calls last night it seems

22:12 <Soul_keeper> last month* that is

22:12 <Rookie_69> I saw mom and dad in 2000 when they came here.

22:12 <Soul_keeper> only 3 people thought I was worth calling, and they pretty much just called cause they needed something

22:13 <wdsmia> Beep we can reduce your credit card bills... that seems to be all I get

22:13 <Soul_keeper> yep

22:13 <Soul_keeper> 79 unread spam messages here ...

22:13 <Rookie_69> If I got three calls in one month, I'd know something was wrong.

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22:15 <Soul_keeper> let's see some lady called because she wanted me to work on her truck, some guy called because he wanted me to chop down some weeds, and my dad called because his gf thought she had a computer virus

22:15 <Soul_keeper> that's the extent of my involvement with society

22:16 <Rookie_69> I think the last E-mail I had from mom said dad had a mild stroke and was driving into town to get a cane because his walker was inconvenient to use.

22:17 <Rookie_69> There's a society?

22:17 <Soul_keeper> only when they need something

22:17 <Rookie_69> I wonder if dad ever made it back from town?

22:18 <Soul_keeper> maybe you should call ...

22:18 <Rookie_69> I got friends too when they need something.

22:18 <Soul_keeper> i've done well at making myself have little to offer

22:21 <wdsmia> you should hear my answer machine message... who are you? what do you want? whats your numbrer? leave your answers at the beep

22:22 <Rookie_69> The guys down at the boat club want to be my friend when they hear I do electrical work.

22:22 <PovAddict> wdsmia: "this isn't an answering machine, this is a questioning machine"

22:23 <wdsmia> yup

22:24 <Rookie_69> If your message interests me in the least, I might return your call...

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22:34 <Tank_Master> somehow I doubt that

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22:35 <Tank_Master> youll return calls if you think youll get something out of it

22:35 <Tank_Master> :P

22:38 <Rookie_69> NN. all.

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22:38 <wdsmia> &nn Glenn

22:38 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

22:38 <Tank_Master> to slow, joe

22:38 <Tank_Master> then again, at least you tryed :P

22:39 <wdsmia> not really said NN to him on skype

22:39 <Tank_Master> ahh

22:40 <wdsmia> saves alot of typing lol

22:40 <Tank_Master> lol

22:40 <Tank_Master> yep

22:40 <Tank_Master> typing is slow

22:40 <Tank_Master> esp when the keybord wont type what you mean it to type

22:40 <wdsmia> yep

22:40 <Tank_Master> anywho, im off for a bit

22:40 <Tank_Master> tc ;)

22:40 <wdsmia> cya

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23:10 <wdsmia> I really need to do dishes... had to make my rum and coke in a wine glass

23:23 <PovAddict> feeling weird again... worries me even if I rationally think 'I'll be fine'

23:25 <PovAddict> most of my symptoms come from being nervous... it's a negative cycle

23:26 <PovAddict> I feel bad - I get nervous - I feel worse - I get more nervous

23:26 <Soul_keeper> I"M THE WINNER !!!

23:34 <PovAddict> I'm shaking

23:35 <Soul_keeper> Don't do that

23:35 <Soul_keeper> it'll make you go blind

23:35 <Soul_keeper> :)

23:35 <wdsmia> pov you will learn if your breathing its a good day

23:36 <PovAddict> I'm breathing... for now

23:36 <Soul_keeper> I just went online and some mexican cussed at me, so I beat him up in UT

23:37 <Soul_keeper> then he cussed some more and ran off with his tail between his legs

23:37 <Soul_keeper> that's prolly the most satisfaction I can get

23:37 <PovAddict> it's stupid to be scared of having heart problems in the middle of the night... I'm 18!

23:37 <wdsmia> sad

23:38 <Soul_keeper> unless you did something to your heart you'll be fine

23:38 <PovAddict> subconciously worried... still shaking like a leaf

23:39 <efc> moo

23:41 <wdsmia> at 20 you find out its called heartburn at 40 you wont remember what its like not to have that feeling

23:41 <PovAddict> S_k: been somewhat sedentary for a few years... but then you said you've been sitting on IRC for 12yrs without other social interaction and you're still alive so I shouldnt be worrying...

23:44 <wdsmia> do you really want Soul_keeper to be your role model? .... sorry SK lol

23:44 <PovAddict> X rays showed quite an air balloon on my stomach... got an appt for a tomography(?)

23:45 <Soul_keeper> yeah trust me i'm a complete failure

23:45 <efc> The alcohol is good at keeping the blood too thin to clot

23:45 <PovAddict> yeah that was the word

23:45 * efc drinks to immortality

23:46 <PovAddict> efc: I dont drink alcohol

23:46 <efc> We'll pre-order you a tombstone, then :)

23:46 <PovAddict> wdsmia: huh

23:46 <Soul_keeper> cafein messes with the stress and blood pressure

23:46 <PovAddict> role model?

23:47 <Soul_keeper> PovAddict, that's me

23:47 <wdsmia> lol

23:47 <PovAddict> efc: thats not funny >:/

23:48 <Soul_keeper> I told my dad, if he dies i'm gonna bury him in the backyard next to my dog and cat.  He don't come around much anymore ...

23:48 <PovAddict> lol

23:49 <Soul_keeper> funerals are expensive

23:49 <PovAddict> still shaking :/

23:50 <Soul_keeper> when I have chest pains I pray they'll finish me off, but they never do :)

23:50 <PovAddict> :\ I dont want to be finished off

23:51 <PovAddict> and seriously that kind of comment wont make me feel any better

23:51 <Soul_keeper> they have songs these day's about enjoying pain

23:53 <wdsmia> when I was 18 I did alot of shaking but then again I was doing a bit of flying over a small island called Grenada  with unfrendly people shooting at me

23:54 <PovAddict> war?

23:54 <wdsmia> not much of one

23:54 <PovAddict> sort of?

23:55 <PovAddict> &invoke KathrynM

23:55 <Romulus> PovAddict: Are you daft?

23:56 <efc> what kind of pain was it? I've had some chest pain for years, since I was 7 probably, and apparently its nothing

23:58 <PovAddict> efc: I had fairly bad pain on monday, went to the doctor, he said it was rib cartilages

23:58 <PovAddict> got an injection and two meds... following day almost all pain was gone

23:59 <PovAddict> but I still feel... 'uncomfortable'

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