IRC logs of #boinc for Tuesday, 2009-04-07

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01:22 <Soul_keeper> What's going on here !?!?

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01:39 <duanedesign> I installed boinc on my 64bit version of Ubuntu. I installed it from the repository. How can I check to see if I have the 64 bit version of BOINC?

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01:40 <MTughan> duanedesign: Try using "file" on the boinc executable.

01:42 <MTughan> boinc: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, stripped

01:42 <MTughan> What I see on a download from BOINC on my Fedora system.

01:44 <duanedesign> aha thank you. boinc:  Starting BOINC client version 6.2.18 for x86_64-pc-linux-gnu

01:45 <duanedesign> good ole CLI:)

01:45 <MTughan> Oh, and BOINC will print out what platform it's for when started too. ;)

01:45 <MTughan> Forgot about that one. :P

01:46 <duanedesign> :)

01:46 <duanedesign> thank you for the quick response. Glad to know this channel is here. will definetly make it a point to drop in regularly.

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01:47 <MTughan> See, having really f***ed up sleep schedules can pay off occasionally. ;)

02:03 <Soul_keeper> what's all this drama ?

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06:13 <CoderForLife> off 2 w@#% - laterz

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07:32 <axxum> hi all

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10:01 <PovAddict> I tried going to w&@%

10:02 <PovAddict> got lightheadedness again after walking like 3 blocks

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13:01 <mweltin> good afternoon yoyo

13:01 <yoyo[RKN]> hi Markus

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13:41 <MTughan> DA: "The important thing from my point of view is that new volunteers have an easy and bug-free experience with the client software."

13:41 <MTughan> Yeah, that's why 6.4.x was released, and 6.6.x has scheduler bugs... >_>

13:45 <yoyo[RKN]> lol

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13:53 <FreeLarry> humm from looking at previous conversations - seriously wonder if PovAddict is under to much stress -- at least from the symptoms hes talking about

13:54 <FreeLarry> sleepliness, chest discomfort, indigestion etc - lots of those from stress at his age

13:54 <FreeLarry> suggest reducing salt intake and increase physical activity

13:55 <FreeLarry> water vice soda/energy drinks

13:56 <MTughan> We have snow...

13:58 <yoyo[RKN]> really?

13:58 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx sxf

13:58 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 66°F / 19°C | Humidity: 46% | Pressure: 29.83in / 1010hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h | Updated: 7:50 PM CEST; Chance of Rain. High:73 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:48 F.; Chance of a Thunderstorm. High:69 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:48 F.; Scattered Clouds. High:64 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:44 F.;

13:58 <FreeLarry> we have sunshine - very unusal for here - maybe Mt. whatever going to blow

13:58 <MTughan> Yeah, we have snow now, and it's predicted to continue into tomorrow.

13:59 <FreeLarry> &wx 98366

13:59 <Romulus> FreeLarry: Temperature: 52.3F / 11.3C | Humidity: 73% | Pressure: 29.87in / 1011.4hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Sunny. Highs in the mid 60s to lower 70s. North wind near 10 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening then becoming cloudy. Lows in the mid 30s to lower 40s. North wind 10 to 15 mph decreasing to 10 mph or less after (1 more message)

13:59 <FreeLarry> and heat pump sensor says 64F

14:01 <FreeLarry> think its time to try and clean out the flower bed

14:01 <MTughan> &wx YOW

14:01 <Romulus> MTughan: Temperature: 28°F / -2°C | Humidity: 80% | Pressure: 29.26in / 991hPa | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 14mph / 22km/h | Updated: 1:00 PM EDT; Today - Periods of snow. Amount 2 to 4 cm(0.8 to 1.6 in). Wind west 20 km/h (12 mph). High 0C(32F).; Tonight - Cloudy with 70 percent chance of flurries. Wind west 20 km/h (12 mph) becoming light this evening. Low (1 more message)

14:02 <mweltin> I remember when I used to love to see my weather.

14:23 <KathrynM> crap, I never expected a parent to email me

14:23 <KathrynM> I sent the same letter home the last two years and never got a response.

14:23 <FreeLarry> lol hazards of im

14:23 <KathrynM> oh well

14:24 <FreeLarry> now you have to concentrate on that individual student for a few moments to draft a reply from your observations

14:25 <FreeLarry> or forward to appropiate higher ups

14:25 <KathrynM> The parent is mainly worried she has to help her kid with her homework.

14:26 <KathrynM> She worried her English isn't good enough.

14:26 <FreeLarry> lol - tell the parent to only guide not do the homework

14:26 <KathrynM> Hell, if she can email her kid's teacher in understandable English, then her English must be pretty tootin' good.

14:26 <FreeLarry> especially as flexible as language is

14:27 <KathrynM> yup

14:27 * FreeLarry finds hand guesture(sp -5) helpful

14:27 <KathrynM> I usually remind people that their English is much better than my Korean :)

14:29 <FreeLarry> well have good day KathrynM and all - back to dirt work

14:29 <KathrynM> I'm going back to bed.

14:29 * FreeLarry looks for general purpose herbicide to take care of flower bed - make cemetary

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14:30 <mweltin> it's called elbow grease FreeLarry

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15:21 <PovAddict> I'd increase physical activity but today and yesterday I got lightheaded/dizzy as soon as I walked some steps

15:22 <PovAddict> if I ran right now I think I'd get a heart attack

15:23 <PovAddict> @FreeLarry

15:24 <MTughan> w00t... 404MB free on my USB drive. :)

15:25 <jasong> clear off another MB so you can get rid of the bad meme ;)

15:27 * PovAddict deletes MTughan's kernel

15:29 <MTughan> Been there, done that.

15:30 <PovAddict> xDDD

15:31 <MTughan> Even Mac OS X isn't safe from the awesome might of the root...

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15:39 <wdsmia_w> Well Jay should be awake... they just had a 4.6 Quake close to la Paz

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16:18 <Tank_Master> #team_seti.usa

16:18 <Tank_Master> bah

16:19 <Tank_Master> helps if I type in the command correctly... :P

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17:21 <CoderForLife> home again

17:21 <Tank_Master> wh

17:21 <CoderForLife> thx

17:38 <wdsmia> re-hi

17:52 <Soul_keeper> Hey !

17:53 <CoderForLife> hello wdsmia Soul_keeper

17:53 <CoderForLife> back from din-din

18:11 * CoderForLife starts Coding his WU generator

18:13 <Soul_keeper> good work CoderForLife

18:13 <CoderForLife> I'm staying with it - overcoming...

18:14 <Soul_keeper> :)

18:14 <Soul_keeper> &weather 91977

18:14 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 69.3F / 20.7C | Humidity: 45% | Pressure: 29.47in / 997.9hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 5.8mph / 9.3km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Chance of rain in the evening...then chance of showers overnight. Patchy fog overnight. Lows 44 to 53. Winds southwest 15 mph. Gusts to 25 mph in the evening. Chance of measurable precipitation 50 (2 more messages)

18:14 <Soul_keeper> &more

18:14 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: percent.; Wednesday - Cloudy in the morning...becoming partly cloudy. Patchy fog in the morning. Chance of showers. Highs 62 to 67 in the western valleys to 57 to 62 near the foothills. Light winds becoming west 15 mph with gusts to 25 mph in the afternoon. Chance of measurable precipitation 40 percent.; Wednesday Night - Mostly cloudy. Chance of showers in the evening. Patchy fog (1 more message)

18:33 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

18:33 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 51.5F / 10.8C | Humidity: 30% | Pressure: 29.86in / 1011.1hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Low in the lower 30s. West wind near 10 mph.; Wednesday - Mostly sunny. High in the lower 50s. Northwest wind 10 to 15 mph.; Wednesday Night - Partly cloudy. Low around 30. North wind 5 to 10 mph.;

18:33 <Soul_keeper> &more

18:33 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: overnight. Lows 42 to 50. Winds west 15 mph with gusts to 25 mph in the evening becoming light. Chance of measurable precipitation 30 percent.; Special Weather Statement for San Diego County in effect until 5:00 AM PDT on April 08, 2009;

18:40 <Soul_keeper>,7478.html

18:40 <Romulus> <> (at

18:48 <PovAddict> hmm kernel security update

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19:06 <FreeLarry58> oh the joys of power outages

19:06 <CoderForLife> um - that would be, um, none?

19:07 <FreeLarry58> PovAddict you got a bloodpressure cuff at home? monitor and record for a few days before next doctors call

19:07 <PovAddict> FreeLarry58: last night, I was feeling as lightheaded as the rest of the day

19:07 <FreeLarry58> correct CoderForLife

19:08 <PovAddict> pressure 12/7

19:08 <PovAddict> as normal as it can get

19:08 * CoderForLife nods, knowingly

19:08 <FreeLarry58> humm PovAddict not sure what units you using mine avg 119/81

19:08 <PovAddict> 120/70

19:09 <PovAddict> I don't remember the exact number :)

19:09 <FreeLarry58> but get light headed when rapic changes in posture - ie sitting to standing or back

19:09 <FreeLarry58> sometimes because of sinus or ear inflamation too

19:10 * CoderForLife tries to remember which window has IRC and which window has vi

19:10 <FreeLarry58> or if lungs not working well (early emphasima coupled with hayfever)

19:10 <FreeLarry58> does it really matter CoderForLife if talking in both?

19:11 <CoderForLife> vi wanted to search for /me

19:11 <CoderForLife> almost metaphysical

19:11 <PovAddict> annoyance:

19:11 <FreeLarry58> ahh i see

19:11 <PovAddict> in a console, or in vi, Ctrl-W means delete word

19:11 <PovAddict> in a GUI, Ctrl-W means close window

19:12 <CoderForLife> yeah  I find all kinds of letter i in my Windows source code

19:13 <CoderForLife> I'm pretty tired apparently

19:13 <CoderForLife> I should stop for the evening

19:13 * FreeLarry58 wonders if CoderForLife searches for OVERLORD code in windows source

19:15 * CoderForLife searches for an honest man

19:15 <PovAddict> CPDN is downloading files super slow

19:15 <FreeLarry58> no such thing - only mostly honest

19:15 <PovAddict> like 15KB/&s

19:15 <PovAddict> 15KB/s

19:15 <PovAddict> 2MB file taking forever and a day

19:15 <MTughan> &google calc 2MB / 15KB/s

19:15 <Romulus> MTughan: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.

19:15 <FreeLarry58> must have a load on the servers there PovAddict

19:16 <jasong> &calc 2048/15

19:16 <Romulus> jasong: Error: The command "calc" is available in the Google and Math plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "calc".

19:16 <MTughan> &math convert [math 2048 / 15] seconds to hours

19:16 <Romulus> MTughan: 0.0379259259258

19:16 <MTughan> Not that long Pov.

19:16 <MTughan> &math convert [math 2048 / 15] seconds to minutes

19:16 <Romulus> MTughan: 2.27555555555

19:17 <CoderForLife> Diogenes

19:17 <Romulus> <> (at

19:17 * CoderForLife stops on his WU naming Code

19:18 <PovAddict>

19:18 <PovAddict> oops

19:18 <PovAddict> disregard

19:18 <CoderForLife> heh

19:18 <CoderForLife> I'm going to stop here

19:18 <CoderForLife> go and sit with the wife

19:18 <CoderForLife> gn all

19:18 <Tank_Master> :)

19:18 <Tank_Master> tc

19:18 <PovAddict>

19:18 <Romulus> <> (at

19:18 <CoderForLife> thx u2

19:19 <MTughan> &math convert [math 2048 / 12] seconds to minutes

19:19 <Romulus> MTughan: 2.84444444445

19:19 <MTughan> PovAddict: It's an 18MB file...

19:19 <PovAddict> yeah 2MB file finally finished

19:19 <MTughan> &math convert [math [math 18 * 1024] / 12] seconds to minutes

19:19 <Romulus> MTughan: 25.6

19:22 * FreeLarry58 remembers when 1M files took a little over an hour to dl on fast connections

19:23 <FreeLarry58> what would the world be for dl'ing videos  at those rates

19:25 * FreeLarry58 term "Mice SuperComputer" echos in head

19:26 <FreeLarry58> well tca - got to go give the boy the payment book for his new car (i already made the first payment on it)

19:29 <Soul_keeper> Ha !  231hrs  WU is 99%  only like 3 more hours ...

19:30 <MTughan> Didn't you say is was already over deadline?

19:31 <MTughan> it*

19:31 <Soul_keeper> yeah by 2 days

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21:32 <Tank_Master> im not away, dumb thing!

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21:41 <AndySpain> hi folks!

21:41 <AndySpain> I have a big problem with BOINC

21:41 <AndySpain> hope someone is still awake

21:42 <AndySpain> I instlled bOINc on ky kubuntu intrepid ibex on an amd TurionX2 64, and I have set BOINC not to use more than 10% of CPU

21:42 <AndySpain> yet still it freeezes all the sytem

21:42 <AndySpain> any help?

21:43 <MTughan> What do you mean it freezes the system?

21:43 <AndySpain> well, nothing moves

21:44 <AndySpain> can't move the mouse

21:44 <MTughan> So is the CPU maxed out?

21:44 <AndySpain> the seconds on the clock won't advance to higher numbers

21:44 <AndySpain> seems so

21:44 <AndySpain> after 5 minutes I can move the mouse fro a fraction of a second

21:44 <AndySpain> and then again five mins nothing

21:44 <AndySpain> though CPU use is set to only 10%

21:45 <MTughan> Well, what 10% CPU does is have applications run at 100% for 10% of the time.

21:45 <AndySpain> I would give it much more, but it was my desperate attempt to prevent boinc from freezing the entire system

21:45 <AndySpain> ah

21:45 <AndySpain> ok

21:45 <MTughan> So say the cycle is 1 second. The applications will be running for 0.1 seconds, and suspended the other 0.9 seconds.

21:45 <AndySpain> I had theses issues two moths ago and then i uninstalled boinc again

21:46 <AndySpain> today i gave it a second try

21:46 <AndySpain> but still the same here

21:46 <AndySpain> I had it work under vista fine

21:46 <AndySpain> I think it even worked under ubuntu, not sure however

21:46 <AndySpain> but here under kubuntu it kills me

21:46 <MTughan> Just another thing I'm wondering... What version of BOINC are you using, what graphics card do you have, and what project(s) are you attached to?

21:47 <AndySpain> 1: Boinc Manager 6.2.14   2) dunno 3) world community grid

21:47 <MTughan> All right, that disproves my theory then...

21:47 <AndySpain> and lhc

21:48 <MTughan> BOINC versions 6.3.x and later can use Nvidia graphics cards for computation, which would slow down the whole system.

21:48 <AndySpain> graphics: ati radeon

21:48 <MTughan> But since you're running 6.2.14, and WCG doesn't have a proper application for it, that's not the problem.

21:49 <AndySpain> would really like to get it running here

21:49 <MTughan> I'm just wondering why it would freeze the system... BOINC should be running the applications on the lowest nice level, 19, so they'd have less priority than user applications.

21:51 <AndySpain> all i know is that i'm currently low on disk space

21:51 <AndySpain> but that shouldn't ibluence it

21:51 <AndySpain> some prejects simply said not enuff space, no works sent

21:51 <MTughan> How much RAM do you have?

21:52 <AndySpain> 4GB

21:52 <MTughan> So it's not swapping then...

21:53 <AndySpain> 2.6 free now

21:53 <MTughan> No, definitely not swapping.

21:53 <AndySpain> with boinc manager in pause

21:53 <AndySpain> otherwise I weren't able to write here...

21:53 <MTughan> Do you have a single core processor, or a multi-core?

21:54 <PovAddict> how low is your disk space?

21:55 <AndySpain> client version 2.6.14 for x86_64-pc-linux-gnu  installed via my distro's package manager so it should work

21:55 <AndySpain> only 200 MB

21:55 <PovAddict> I heard bad RAM controllers can cause a similar problem

21:55 <PovAddict> bad quality, I mean

21:56 <AndySpain> i know it's not much. but if it needed more for a project it simply shouldn't download until it's free. Other preojects have downloaded som work

21:56 <AndySpain> don't know about ram controllers

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22:02 <AndySpain> so you can't help me either?

22:04 <Soul_keeper> you're out of luck

22:05 <AndySpain> ok

22:05 <AndySpain> thanks anyways

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22:24 <AndySpain> sorry guys, had to unintall it

22:25 <AndySpain> It didn't let me log into my system anymore after a restart, for it started automatically

22:26 <AndySpain> maybe I'll try again in half a year or so

22:43 <Soul_keeper> you could always try other versions

22:43 <Soul_keeper> but if you want it done for you, then yeah wait a year or so ...

22:44 <Soul_keeper>

22:44 <Romulus> Title: Index of /dl (at

22:46 <AndySpain> Soul_keeper thax for the link

22:46 <MTughan> The thing is that it could be a BOINC bug, an OS bug, or a hardware bug. I can't tell.

22:46 * Tank_Master discovers that bread is usefull in a BJ sandwitch

22:46 <Tank_Master> at first I tried it w/o the bread, but soon discovered my fingers got quite sticky

22:46 <Soul_keeper> could be anything, you just gotta roll up your sleeves

22:47 <AndySpain> even though I'm on kubuntu I can use the ubuntu one, right?

22:48 <AndySpain> unfortunately I#m no techie. and new to linux as well

22:48 <MTughan> The Ubuntu version just means a GUI version. Should run on any Linux distro.

22:48 <MTughan> It's an unfortunate name.

22:49 <Tank_Master> upgrade to windows, its easier to use

22:49 <MTughan> Tank_Master: F off.

22:49 <Tank_Master> hehe

22:49 <Soul_keeper> install gentoo or slackware :)

22:49 <AndySpain> I guess the new version of BOINC is too big for me free space. it's 3,2 GB  and I only have little free space

22:50 <Tank_Master> hey, at least im not telling a mac user to upgrade to BSD like I saw soemeone do the other day

22:50 <MTughan> Why would someone tell someone else to use BSD rather than OS X?

22:51 <Soul_keeper> why not ...

22:51 <Soul_keeper> lol

22:51 <Tank_Master> cus they didnt know OSx = BSD?

22:51 <MTughan> Because OS X has a lot of BSD components.

22:51 <MTughan> It's not, but they have a lot of similar parts.

22:51 <AndySpain> it's not open spource

22:51 <Tank_Master> thought it was, ot at least a port of it

22:51 <AndySpain> the OSX only parts

22:52 <Tank_Master> or*

22:52 <MTughan> AndySpain: The Darwin kernel is open source. But you're right, the Cocoa GUI toolkit isn't.

22:52 <Tank_Master> so its BSD with propriatary things added?

22:52 <Tank_Master> (for the most part)

22:52 <MTughan> The kernel is Mach with BSD on top.

22:52 <Tank_Master> ah

22:53 <AndySpain> Soul_keeper in the page you gave me there are many things. I don't know which one's for me. I'm on kubuntu intrepid ibex, and the one that say ubuntu are some GB so i guess it's not them...

22:54 <Soul_keeper> AndySpain,   you could try that,  I'm assuming your distro is a 64-bit distro here

22:54 <Romulus> <> (at

22:55 <AndySpain> amd turion x2 64 bits

22:55 <AndySpain> ah, ok

22:55 <AndySpain> thx

22:55 <MTughan> <AndySpain> client version 2.6.14 for x86_64-pc-linux-gnu

22:55 <MTughan> So yes, 64-bits.

22:55 <Soul_keeper>    if your distro doesn't have the 64-bit libs

22:55 <Romulus> <> (at

22:55 <AndySpain> thank you

22:56 <Soul_keeper> infact the second link would be the "safer" choice for you

22:56 <AndySpain> ah, ok

22:57 <AndySpain> maybe i try the first one first and if it works, than I know I'm fully using my system and if not, i use the safer one as fallback?

22:57 <AndySpain> I simply run the script, that's all?

22:57 <MTughan> The script will extract the BOINC folder in the current directory.

22:58 <AndySpain> ok

22:58 <Soul_keeper> from there you'd run it from your terminal

22:59 <AndySpain> shall i run it with root privs or as user?

22:59 <MTughan> User.

22:59 <AndySpain> ok, done

23:00 <Tank_Master> Luser

23:00 <MTughan> There's no reason anything should have to be run as root, and running it as your user will prevent possibly malicious apps from screwing around with anything.

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23:10 <jasong> Does anybody have a copy of the Ray Kurzweil book that they'd be interested in selling/loaning?

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23:10 <AndySpain> ok, that one killed my system as well

23:10 <jasong> Yeah, you should be incredibly cautious about running things as root

23:10 <AndySpain> now I try the "safe" one and hope I will not have to reboot

23:10 <MTughan> jasong: He didn't.

23:11 <AndySpain> no, just as user

23:11 <jasong> awesome

23:11 <MTughan> AndySpain: Then it's probably not a BOINC bug, but an OS bug. That's what I'd think.

23:11 <AndySpain> but still it freezes the entire system

23:11 <MTughan> What kernel are you running?

23:11 <AndySpain> but anything else works

23:11 <AndySpain> amsn, open office, movies, music, torrent, tor, .....

23:12 * Soul_keeper has never once tryed to run anything at less than 100% cpu use so would know ...

23:12 <Soul_keeper> wouldn't*

23:12 <AndySpain> 2.6.27-11-generic #1 SMP Wed Apr 1 20:53:41 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux

23:12 <AndySpain> so I should tell the kubuntu guys rather?

23:13 <AndySpain> I will now start the safe client

23:13 <AndySpain> i you wanna say something to me before I'm gone again...

23:13 <AndySpain> ... now is the moment.

23:13 <MTughan> The only thing I'd wonder is if the CPU is actually maxed out.

23:14 <AndySpain> well, I don't know. But I guess it_'s not

23:14 <AndySpain> coz it would sound differently I think - the fan

23:14 <AndySpain> though it does accelarate

23:15 <AndySpain> but I had other apps making my computer breather harder

23:15 <MTughan> Fan... Maybe the CPU overheats and clocks down to cool it down?

23:15 <AndySpain> this time I had started from command line. added a project and the last message that occured there was that it couldn't load a start.jpg  cause it didn't exists

23:16 <AndySpain> but I don't think that's the problem

23:16 <AndySpain> will now run the other one

23:17 <AndySpain> ok,m this one won't even start

23:18 <AndySpain> ndy@Rechner:~/apps/BOINC$ ./run_manager

23:18 <AndySpain> ./run_manager: line 1: /home/andy/apps/BOINC/boincmgr: No existe el fichero ó directorio

23:18 <AndySpain> ./run_manager: line 1: /home/andy/apps/BOINC/boincmgr: Éxito

23:18 <AndySpain> maybe it's intel only?  I'm on AMD

23:18 <AndySpain> it tells me boincmgr does not exist

23:19 <MTughan> No, it'll work on AMD... I don't speak Spanish, but it looks like a bash error, no such file or directory.

23:20 <AndySpain> andy@Rechner:~/apps/BOINC$ sh run_manager

23:20 <AndySpain> exec: 1: ./boincmgr: not found

23:20 <AndySpain> correct

23:20 <MTughan> Does boincmgr exist in the directory? It should.

23:21 <AndySpain> yes it is there

23:22 <AndySpain> it's green

23:22 <AndySpain> there's a  i'll try that one

23:23 <PovAddict> who wants a gross comment

23:23 <AndySpain> ok, this one can't cd to BOINC it says, as we're already in ~/apps/BOINC ...

23:23 <PovAddict> binstall shouldnt be run by hand

23:24 <AndySpain> well, i guve up for now and will let the kubuntu people know there's something wrong. maybe they know what's up. Who knows, could really be a OS bug

23:29 <AndySpain> good night folks!

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23:31 <PovAddict> as a programmer, I hereby blame his hardware

23:32 <Soul_keeper> I blame his brain

23:32 <PovAddict> wetware

23:33 <PovAddict> ok ill just say the gross comment

23:33 <PovAddict> I'll spend the night farting

23:34 <Tank_Master> sounds like  an ID10t issue to me

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