IRC logs of #boinc for Wednesday, 2009-04-08

00:02 <PovAddict> 120bpm

00:06 <Soul_keeper> 99.95% done go buddy go !

00:21 <Soul_keeper> done on the Eee  235hr 40min

00:21 <Tank_Master> hehe

00:21 <Tank_Master> go atom power!

00:21 <Soul_keeper> pre-atom

00:22 <Soul_keeper> basically a p3 celeron, with added cache

00:22 <Tank_Master> oh, crap, this the stiped down Pentium M?

00:22 <Soul_keeper> yeah

00:22 <Tank_Master> ahh

00:22 <Soul_keeper> first Eee that came out

00:22 <Tank_Master> hey, it works...

00:22 <Tank_Master> barly

00:23 <Soul_keeper> yeah I wanted the via C7  cpu, but they never made it to market

00:23 <Tank_Master> ahh

00:24 <Soul_keeper> basically via had the idea first with the  nano   but sat on dead promises for 2yrs, then intel stepped up and took their idea

00:24 <Tank_Master> with the help of asus and the eee

00:25 <Soul_keeper> yup

00:26 <Soul_keeper> the Eee crunches thru MW work units with ease tho

00:26 <jasong> Probably a low cache project

00:26 <Soul_keeper> it's great for old machines

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01:06 <Tank_Master> I dont suppose anyone has a promo code for newegg :P

01:07 <Soul_keeper> call them and ask for one , never know

01:07 <Tank_Master> hehe

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01:26 <old511> hello all :)

01:27 <old511> &wx 87321

01:27 <Romulus> old511: Temperature: 50F / 10.0C | Humidity: 27% | Pressure: in / hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 10mph / 16.1km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows in the 20s to mid 30s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph.; Wednesday - Partly cloudy. Windy. Highs in the upper 50s to lower 70s. Southwest winds 20 to 30 mph increasing to 25 to 35 mph in the afternoon. Gusts up to 50 (2 more messages)

01:27 <Tank_Master> howdy

01:28 <old511> LO tank master ,retarted 20year Marine here

01:29 <FreeLarry58> hey its an old511 - ltns

01:30 <old511> long time since I have been on Irac ,shame on me , have lost track of all the folks I once knew :(, just have too make some new friends, no grades for spelling K

01:31 <old511> Larry how goes it ?

01:31 <FreeLarry58> lol if that was the case i think my score minus 2 billion

01:31 <old511> LOL

01:31 <FreeLarry58> still hanging in there

01:32 <FreeLarry58> finally got my vista machine to run stable -- after replacing most of it -- mb replacement cured it

01:32 <old511> don't drop out there TM ,we just getting started

01:33 <FreeLarry58> Tank_Master hangs around but like me mostly in background lurking

01:33 <Tank_Master> im hunting down deals for new comp parts

01:33 <Tank_Master> LF is correct :P

01:33 <Tank_Master> FL*

01:33 <Tank_Master> gaa, I cant even get 2 letters in the right order...

01:33 <old511> still working on dule AMD have replaced every thing ,waiting for new MB LOL

01:34 <Tank_Master> not going with AMD

01:34 <Tank_Master> never really have

01:35 <FreeLarry58> after vista (second q6600) machne i tried an i7 - the 920 seems best deal for the buck

01:35 <FreeLarry58> cruncher wise that is

01:35 <Tank_Master> though probably having a parent working for intel and myself in the past, that might have something to do with it

01:35 <Tank_Master> thats what I have

01:35 <Tank_Master> i7 and the P6T mobo

01:35 <FreeLarry58> uh yup

01:35 <Tank_Master> just working on getting RAM, vid, sound, and PS

01:36 <Tank_Master> got the case n HDs to

01:36 <FreeLarry58> for the q6600 the p6q board great

01:36 <FreeLarry58> urgg p5q

01:36 <Tank_Master> :)

01:36 <FreeLarry58> p6 for the i7 sseries

01:37 <old511> I have mostly Intell but thought thought since this was gonna be Climit machine would try dULE amd BEEN WORK ON THIS SO LONG THE CHIP WAS 800.00 + WHEN i GOT IT lol

01:37 <Tank_Master> im runing my qx6700 on a 975 chipset :D

01:38 <old511> sorry caint find the correct keyss , I don't even know what is what anymore :(

01:39 <old511> gesss

01:39 <FreeLarry58> #2 my dual core amd

01:39 <Romulus> <> (at

01:39 <old511> these are quad chips here

01:39 <FreeLarry58> my 3.2's all died ;(

01:40 <Tank_Master> no comps runing win7?

01:40 <FreeLarry58> nope - haven't got the cash to experiment right now -- buying a car for the one boy and grandson

01:41 <Tank_Master> ahh

01:41 <Tank_Master> thats spendy

01:41 <FreeLarry58> will be 25K when finished in 4 years - but not going to take the hit on credit report

01:42 <old511> got 2 3.2's 14.2 ans an ols sk8n amd which is the only box I have been able to run

01:42 <old511> 1,4.2

01:42 <FreeLarry58> makes up some for wifes --help-- on his first car ---- 17.9%interest for 7 yrs on used car which should have sold for 7k

01:43 <FreeLarry58> yeah old wasn't the processor that died on me -- just the mb's

01:43 <old511> god is osma getting you too

01:44 <FreeLarry58> osma?

01:44 <old511> obama mabey?

01:44 <Tank_Master> ocrapa

01:45 <Tank_Master> he did it again

01:45 <FreeLarry58> nah his economics not getting me - just a slight sense of consous

01:45 <Tank_Master> :P

01:46 <FreeLarry58> my loan on new car was 5.6% 4 yrs 18.2k

01:46 <FreeLarry58> not 17.9% 7yr and same payment

01:46 <FreeLarry58> for 10K

01:46 <old511> I've been buying ammo at wal mart for 3 months now and am getting comfortable with my stock pile, and got a new 308

01:47 <FreeLarry58> oh my bear hunting?

01:47 <Tank_Master> for when the bare market is here

01:48 <old511> good ami point out to 1000 yards :)

01:48 <FreeLarry58> ;0 i guess i better check to make sure my shirts don't have targets on them

01:48 <Tank_Master> lol

01:48 <old511> and a 243 for mid range

01:49 <FreeLarry58> humm shirts don't --- back of pants look funny tho

01:49 <old511> ;0

01:49 * FreeLarry58 goes to find sewing kit and patch rags

01:50 <Tank_Master> skid marks?

01:50 <FreeLarry58> blast holes

01:50 <Tank_Master> ah

01:50 <Tank_Master> someone blastin yo @$$?


01:50 <FreeLarry58> other way

01:50 <Tank_Master> lol

01:51 <Tank_Master> you blastin your own @$$?

01:51 * FreeLarry58 gots to remember cant eat so many bean burritos anymore

01:51 <old511> LOL

01:52 <old511> I'm Getting into reloading and such

01:52 <FreeLarry58> next thing you know the energy companies going to be following me around for methane fuel source

01:52 <old511> LOL

01:53 <FreeLarry58> just remember keep the sparks and flames away from reloading area -- and powder storage

01:54 <old511> saw a kit for a methaine robot car ,fuel cell thing works solor and h2o ,in the edmends catolage

01:54 <FreeLarry58> well ned to move arund again so have good night and good hunting

01:55 <old511> need to pay off my land first

01:55 <Tank_Master> tc FL

01:57 <old511> left that hole a few years back , to humid and too many liberials , so old they are the have hanging chads ,;0

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02:00 <old511> lo wdsmia

02:01 <old511> New Mexxico for me , strap a shooting iron to your hip and you are good to go :)

02:01 <Tank_Master> wb wdsmia

02:01 <efc3> moo old511

02:03 <old511> Moo wdsmia, hows life down south ?

02:03 <Tank_Master> moist

02:06 <old511> our new liberial gov has got me buying gold and silver

02:06 <efc3> i've thought of it

02:07 <efc3> Going for Lincoln County War v2?

02:07 <old511> get certified coins that way there is no bickering on the coin quaility.

02:08 <efc3> You doing bullion? Maple leafe kugerand etc?

02:11 <old511> I got luckey and got ,have in my hot little hand one of the new gold Saint gaudains , graded at an MS70 which is the higest grade you can get

02:11 <Soul_keeper> good work

02:12 <efc3> That is a really beautiful coin

02:12 <efc3> I bought one of the bullion dollars in 1989, I think its worth $2 more now hehe

02:13 <old511> bought the coin befor release and gave 2,300 for ir ,now the company I bought it from has only been qable to deliver 11 of these coins , they have that edge inqusion ,and arent grading out.

02:14 <Soul_keeper> i'd be buying them too, if i could afford it

02:14 <old511> the rumor also has it this is the last yeqar for silver egeails

02:14 <Soul_keeper> buying some constantly till retirement seems like a good plan to me

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02:17 <old511> the girl I do busnes with called me back 15 min after she sold me the coin and told me the wernt selling any mor that day and the next day the would be going for 2800

02:18 <old511> found a guy on e bay got one for sale for22,999.99

02:21 <old511> and I just started with morgains :)' I have a 10.00 platum coin of which they only mintied 400, paid 350.00 for it , it's worth 1,200 in ms70 which mine is, so I got In at the right timme I thunk

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02:23 <Soul_keeper> gotta watch out tho

02:24 <Soul_keeper> I called to buy silver bullion once, they said they didn't have any, but would call me back when they did

02:24 <Soul_keeper> silver rallied over 30% and they call me back wanting to sell me some

02:24 <old511> I am not braging just trying trying to en corage you to get into the rare coin deal, get two people you buy from and you can cross check them

02:25 <Soul_keeper> My biggest concern is being able to eat once a day

02:25 <Soul_keeper> can barely afford that

02:25 <Soul_keeper> the liberals got me right where they want me it would seem

02:26 <Soul_keeper> took my guns, my money, make me pay for them to watch me, and tax me

02:28 <old511> I hear that if you want mor details and how to start small and get biger ,will give you my traders names and stuff and get you you turning paper into cold hard cash , and with that I'm gonna punch out see you all later Dana

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02:30 * old is away (-B.B.L. - Be Back Later-)-(-P:Off / L:On-)

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02:44 <synapt> lol, since #setiathome hasn't been touched apparently in 3 years on this net, got a question offhand about it if it would be appropriate to ask in here :P

02:45 <Soul_keeper> yup

02:45 <Tank_Master> 3 years? wow

02:45 <Tank_Master> thats... sad

02:45 <synapt> Well, basically I have an ANCIENT account with seti@home, classic wise even, however when I tried to 'merge' the accounts it told me it was still active, lol

02:46 <synapt> I for the life of me have no idea what the login for that account could possibly be password wise

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02:46 <synapt> any suggestions/ideas how about to go at this?

02:46 <synapt> and yeah, lol; Last used  : Jan 16 16:49:46 2006 (3 years, 11 weeks, 5 days, 13:53:19 ago)

02:46 <synapt> was the last time anyone was in #setiathome apparently on freenode :P

02:46 <Tank_Master> I thought they didnt allow merging anymore

02:47 <synapt> Well, merge might have been the wrong term

02:47 <synapt> Its for basically importing the classic seti@home workunits

02:47 <Tank_Master> yeah, It a fine term to use

02:48 <synapt> as far as I recall I registered it back before it got the whole boinc merge in, and I got the email down, just not the password

02:48 <Tank_Master> I havent ran seti in a few years now, so I dont rememebr :P

02:48 <Tank_Master> yeah, same here

02:48 <synapt> though it tells me its 'active' when I try to import it, which I got no idea how, that account has to be at least 4-5 years old

02:48 <synapt> cause I've been running my current one since 07, lol

02:48 <Soul_keeper> you can't merge them or anything

02:49 <synapt> darn

02:49 <Soul_keeper> it's "classic" just memories now

02:49 <synapt> Yeah I just wanted to import the old workunit credits I had for it

02:49 <synapt> I just don't know why its saying that email is still 'active', not sure what it classifies as active

02:49 <Tank_Master> basicly in your profile itll state how meny BOINC credits you have and how ment clasic credits you have

02:49 <synapt> Yeah

02:50 <Soul_keeper> the credit system is totally different now

02:50 <synapt> thats what I was trying to do :P

02:50 <synapt> I had a good bit of old credits on that one, wanted to import them was all, was from way back

02:50 <synapt> hrm wonder if I can even figure a way to pull up the old profile page for it by email...

02:53 <efc3> did you look at this?

02:53 <Romulus> Title: Instructions for SETI@home Classic users (at

02:54 <synapt> Thats exactly what I've been trying efc

02:54 <synapt> the page

02:54 <Romulus> <> (at

02:54 <synapt> but when I enter my old email it says its still 'active'

02:54 <efc3> Hmm

02:55 <synapt> It says the email address is still an 'Active' boinc account, I guess it means its boinc rather than classic, which doesn't make sense to me cause that was from back before boinc came about

02:55 <synapt> and the email address isn't even up anymore so I can't do a pass retrieval/reset either :/

02:56 <synapt> I'm trying to figure out if I can view its profile page just from knowing the email address, as that should specify more directly whether its a boinc or classic thing I guess, though no luck

02:56 <efc3> i already linked mine so that second link doesn't tell me much..

02:57 <efc3> "Your current SETI@home/BOINC account is already linked to a Classic account"

02:57 <efc3> You can always try asking on the forums, if the answer isn't already there

02:57 <Tank_Master> thats what id get to

02:57 <synapt> wasn't that I could find no

02:57 <synapt> I was pondering that if I couldn't find some sorta tech email to contact directly about getting some sort of account reset so I could at least -access- it if anything

02:58 * FreeLarry58 lets see account linked to inactive email -- hard admins will have to get involved more than likely

02:58 <FreeLarry58> at least from old memories of request like that when i was active

02:58 <synapt> thus why I was aiming at some type of tech email address, lol, cause I knew it wasn't gonna be simple

02:59 <FreeLarry58> dn't know if there is anyplace that could set up an email account using your old mail account -- if was on http type account shouldn't be to hard i guess

03:00 <synapt> lol, I guess I could just go purchase the domain back for a year and setup an account again just for this

03:00 <efc3> this stuff does tend to break occasionally, was hoping i'd find someone else with the same problem..

03:01 <efc3> I sorta wonder if someone could have linked to your account..

03:01 <FreeLarry58> Dr. David P. Anderson, Director

03:01 <FreeLarry58> David is a computer scientist, with research interests in volunteer computing, distributed systems, and real-time systems. He also runs the BOINC project.

03:01 <FreeLarry58> David is a rock climber, mountain climber, classical pianist, and father of Noah (born Oct 2005). Email him at davea at ssl dot berkeley dot edu.

03:02 <synapt> I'd be surprised if they did

03:02 <synapt> the account wasn't old old, I think from around 2004 maybe

03:02 <efc3> seen this?

03:02 <Soul_keeper> nice, I just "linked" my old account too

03:02 <Romulus> <> (at

03:03 <FreeLarry58> think above was who i remember some one else getting help from

03:03 <Soul_keeper>   :)

03:03 <Romulus> <> (at

03:03 <synapt> efc: Negative, but thats where my issue is, I don't recall the password for that, or in all honesty it might have been back from when as the other page said, accounts didn't have passwords yet

03:04 <synapt> I know when I try to login though it tells me incorrect password, so I'm guessing its just that I forgot the pass

03:04 <FreeLarry58> accounts always had pw's

03:05 <synapt> The one page mentions about the classic accounts not having passwords

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03:05 <FreeLarry58> early 90's maybe

03:05 <FreeLarry58> i joined classic in late 90's

03:05 <Soul_keeper> did I beat you ?

03:05 <synapt> well its only been around since 99 or so as I recall

03:05 <FreeLarry58> probably

03:06 <synapt> boinc came around in 05 I think?

03:06 <synapt> see though;

03:06 <synapt> "When we launched SETI@home/BOINC, we created accounts for all SETI@home Classic users, with their existing email addresses. Each account includes the number of SETI@home Classic workunits completed, the CPU time, and the start date. These accounts were not given passwords (i.e., they can't be accessed using any password). "

03:06 <synapt> :/

03:07 <efc3> so the new BOINC account doesn't have a pw

03:07 <synapt> if I try to log in with a pass though, it says incorrect password as if there was one

03:07 <efc3> but the classic one still did

03:07 <synapt> if I don't specify a password at all it says I need to specify an account/auth key

03:07 <synapt> lol

03:07 <synapt> I just honestly don't know how it could be active, or at least what it considers active

03:08 <synapt> I know it has to have been dead since at least late 06

03:08 <efc3> I would think you have to have the classic password one way or another. OTherwise anyone could link to it.

03:08 <FreeLarry58> oops 2001 according to my acct page

03:09 <FreeLarry58> humm acc authentication key would still be in file on machine that ran it --- if you didn't delete it

03:09 <synapt> lol, that system hasn't been up for as long

03:09 <synapt> ignoring the fact I think it wants the boinc key

03:09 <FreeLarry58> humm still chance file exists then

03:09 <linear_shift> hmm

03:09 <synapt> which wouldn't exist because well, it wasn't boinc at that time :P

03:10 <FreeLarry58> sah and boinc still used same items for a while

03:10 <linear_shift> i've thought about using boinc for a new project

03:10 <linear_shift> virtual life experiment

03:10 <FreeLarry58> i remember having to type authentification key in for sah classic when i joined

03:10 <synapt> bah, I still need to restart from the latest update too

03:10 <synapt> lol

03:11 <efc3> synapt: with the classic pw you should be able to fill out the  "If your SETI@home Classic email address is no longer valid" section

03:11 <efc3> linear: game of life type thing?

03:11 <FreeLarry58> lol just got around to doing the january updates on one machine that i was using - power outage destroyed the temp files i was keeping open so did the updates

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03:12 <FreeLarry58> he still needs his old pw for the old account

03:12 <synapt> efc: But again as I noted already, I have -no- idea what the old password is

03:12 <synapt> I tried every password I can think of that I Used back then, nada

03:12 <efc3> oh, thought thats what you said you could recover, ok

03:12 <efc3> saw a forum post complaining the password wouldn't work no matter what

03:13 <FreeLarry58> nope he could possible recover is auth key from old files in sah but not the pw

03:13 <efc3>

03:13 <Romulus> <> (at

03:13 <synapt> Yeah but like I said I really doubt there is any auth key

03:13 <synapt> because its pre-boinc

03:13 <synapt> the auth key is all in boincs configuration

03:13 <synapt> efc: Sounds a bit like my issue

03:13 <synapt> just without the old email accessable

03:14 <synapt> I guess I'll just lease the domain again for a year and try a reset

03:14 * FreeLarry58 puts on memory recall headgear -- sah request acct recieved email with code to put in then could setup new pw

03:14 <synapt> until then, back in a few, boinc is nagging me to restart

03:15 * FreeLarry58 hear my book calling me to finish reading it before napping again

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03:25 <efc3> still looking at getting cable internet here

03:25 <Tank_Master> what do you have now?

03:26 <efc3> dialup

03:26 <efc3> faced with a 200 hours download for a patch, i'm giving up

03:27 <efc3> I would still have dialup at home, but cable/dsl avail at apartment

03:28 <Tank_Master> eesh

03:28 <Tank_Master> denial-up

03:28 <efc3> only half of a dialup here - lines stink

03:30 <efc3> considered DSL but not gonna try for that reason

03:31 <efc3> In apt I don't own the wiring so i'm sorta hosed with certain problems

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03:37 <synapt> Any particular way in the latest boinc to know if its actually using the GPU? o.O

03:37 <Soul_keeper> check your gpu temps

03:38 <synapt> Thats what I was just watching, didn't seem to be, lol

03:38 <Soul_keeper> also there are apparently apps that'll show gpu load ... I don't have a link for one tho

03:38 <synapt> either that or its not really as GPU load heavy as I would have thought

03:38 <Tank_Master> in the advanced view

03:38 <synapt> define advanced view?

03:38 <Tank_Master> itll say that a CUDA device was found if ytou have a GeForce 88000 or higher

03:39 <synapt> I know my GPU is definitely compatible, but its either not using it or its definitely running cool

03:39 <Tank_Master> it wont detect any other vid card

03:39 <synapt> like I said I know its compatible, lol, its a 9 series

03:39 <Tank_Master> what projects are you rinning?

03:39 <synapt> Seti@Home w/ AstroPulse apparently

03:39 <Soul_keeper> linux ?

03:39 <Tank_Master> how meny tasks are running?

03:39 <synapt> Windows

03:39 <synapt> Two

03:39 <Soul_keeper> astropulse is cpu only

03:40 <synapt> ah

03:40 <synapt> Hrm

03:40 <Soul_keeper> the enhance or MB is gpu capable

03:40 <Tank_Master> if its number of CPUs+1 then the GPU is running

03:40 <synapt> I'm taking it Astropulse tasks tend to be bulkier than the usual Seti@home tasks

03:40 <Soul_keeper> and you'll like need to download 3rd party apps for the gpu

03:40 <synapt> cause 140 hours to complete is WAY longer than I'm used to, lol

03:41 <Tank_Master> yeah, they are longer now to help with server load

03:41 <synapt> crazy

03:42 <synapt> Guess there's no way I can make it run other ones too, shame

03:42 <synapt> was interested to see how fast it would run on my GPU

03:42 <Soul_keeper> I told you the MB subproject runs on the GPU

03:42 <Soul_keeper> you'll need to enable that in the settings on the website

03:43 <synapt> I'm lookin I'm lookin, lol

03:43 <Tank_Master> hehe

03:43 <synapt> MB subproject?  Like subproject of Boinc or Seti?

03:43 <Tank_Master> of seti

03:43 <Soul_keeper> I havn't used windows in several years, but judging by the fact that crunch3r don't have windows gpu apps on his sight, i'm guessing it'll work automatically with windows

03:44 <synapt> okay you're gonna have to point me at that, lol not seeing it on the general pages

03:44 <synapt> They only show astropulse as a main sub project, Astropulse and Seti@Home Enhanced

03:45 <Soul_keeper> Resource share and graphicsSETI@home preferences

03:45 <Soul_keeper> enhanced == MB

03:45 <synapt> Ah

03:45 <synapt> thats already checked

03:45 <synapt> Run only the selected applications SETI@home Enhanced

03:45 <synapt> Astropulse

03:45 <synapt> Astropulse v5

03:45 <synapt> Then I got "Use Graphics Processing Unit (GPU) if available" checked even at that

03:46 <Soul_keeper> what version of boinc ?

03:46 <Romulus> what version of boinc are you running, Soul_keeper

03:46 <Soul_keeper> did boinc say it detected a cuda device ?

03:46 <Tank_Master> stfu rommie

03:46 <Soul_keeper> do you have the latest nvidia drivers ?

03:46 <Tank_Master> what vid card do you have?

03:46 <synapt> 6.4.7

03:46 <synapt> just grabbed it 2 days ago

03:46 <Soul_keeper> upgrade boinc to atleast 6.5.0

03:46 <synapt> And thats where?  lol

03:46 <Tank_Master> 6.6.20 is tyhe latest beta app

03:46 <Soul_keeper> that could likely be the problem

03:47 <synapt> 6.4.7 is listed as the latest windows

03:47 <Tank_Master>

03:47 <Romulus> Title: Download BOINC client software (at

03:47 <synapt> "(MAY BE UNSTABLE - USE ONLY FOR TESTING)" lol...

03:47 <Soul_keeper> it is just the latest "totally tested as stable" or whatever

03:47 <synapt> Not generally what someone wants to see :P

03:47 <synapt> Yeah one sec

03:47 <synapt> well wait

03:47 <synapt> you just said that Astropulse is -not- GPU compatible right?

03:48 <synapt> The only two tasks running are both apparently running as Astropulse so :P

03:48 <synapt> That explains that much at least

03:48 <Soul_keeper> yeah  AP  is cpu only right now

03:48 <Soul_keeper> MB can run on cpu or gpu

03:48 <synapt> Now is there any way I can force it to say run two AstroPulse and two standard enhanced tasks?  That way the GPU could take two and the CPU can take two

03:49 <synapt> I thought there was a way you could manually control tasks but I don't see it now...

03:49 <Tank_Master> sine when has BOINC been totaly stable?

03:49 <Soul_keeper> it'll run 1 wu per video card by default

03:49 <Soul_keeper> can't change that as far as I know, without running multiple instances of boinc

03:49 <synapt> well 1 still wouldn't be bad

03:49 <Soul_keeper> Tank_Master, yeah :)

03:50 <synapt> better than none at least, lol

03:50 <Soul_keeper> synapt, but you can set how many cpu tasks to run at any time thru the website settings

03:50 <synapt> Yeah but that won't necessarily make it run a non-astropulse one

03:51 <Soul_keeper> the gpu wu's will use all the SPs on the vid card, so running multiple ones won't really help anyways,  maybe 5% boost in speed if i had to guess

03:51 <synapt> Well the whole GPU/Cuda thing is supposed to 'Significantly' increase the processing of it, so I'd imagine more than a 5% boost

03:51 <Soul_keeper> just upgrade boinc

03:52 <synapt> What would upgrading it do?  Wouldn't AstroPulse still be non GPU compatible? :P

03:52 <Soul_keeper> stop confusing things

03:52 <Soul_keeper> you are using a boinc version that predates cuda support

03:52 <Soul_keeper> you will not be able to run gpu apps with it

03:52 <synapt> Thats not what the website says :/

03:52 <synapt> website says anything 6.4.5+

03:52 <synapt> supports cuda processing

03:53 <Soul_keeper> yeah they probably lied to you then

03:53 <Soul_keeper> unless you see  "detected cuda device" in your status tab

03:53 <synapt> ... so the official website for boinc is lying

03:53 <synapt> ?

03:53 <synapt> lol

03:53 <synapt> that seems... dumb

03:53 <Tank_Master> the GPU can increase performance by 5-10 times over a CPU

03:53 <Soul_keeper> but regardless to work out the scheduling bugs it's recommended to upgrade to a later version

03:53 <Tank_Master> also depends on the vid card and the project

03:54 <Soul_keeper> Tank_Master, yeah I was trying to explain about him wanting to run multiple gpu tasks at once.  won't get any benefit really compared to running just a single one

03:57 <Tank_Master> the GPU apps actually run multible processes at once

03:57 <Tank_Master> so thats why running 2 apps at once wont help

03:57 <synapt> Well about time, one good thing I see they finally did

03:57 <synapt> no need for a restart

03:57 <synapt> lol

03:58 <synapt> I hated that need for a restart, seemed so pointless

03:58 <synapt> now where exactly am I looking to see if boinc is recognizing the GPU?  status somewhere?

03:58 <Soul_keeper> when it first starts up

03:58 <Tank_Master> messages tab

03:59 <synapt> Well yes

03:59 <Tank_Master> in teh advanced view

03:59 <synapt> it listed it there last time too

03:59 <Tank_Master> at the top

03:59 <synapt> CUDA device: GeForce 9800 GTX/9800 GTX+ (driver version 17824, CUDA version 1.1, 512MB, est. 84GFLOPS)

03:59 <Tank_Master> 4/6/2009 10:37:11 PMOS: Microsoft Windows 7: x64 Editon, (06.01.7068.00)

03:59 <Tank_Master> then yes, it found it

03:59 <synapt> holy christ all mighty

03:59 <synapt> it just started 22 cuda tasks

03:59 <synapt> *_*

04:00 <Tank_Master> hehe

04:00 <synapt> ... 8 of them already finished

04:00 <synapt> damn

04:00 <synapt> thats... insanely fast compared to plain ol CPU

04:01 <synapt> thats not too bad either

04:01 <synapt> only brought the temp of my GPU up 2 C :/

04:01 <Tank_Master> yes it is

04:01 <synapt> wait, 4 C

04:01 <synapt> lol

04:01 <synapt> now its bouncing between 4-5, still not too bad

04:01 <Tank_Master> just thing what a geforce 295 would do...

04:01 <synapt> Thats sadly about all the good the 2xx series are right now, lol

04:02 <synapt> the driver support for them basically only makes them glorified 9 series cards when it comes to games

04:02 <synapt> but I imagine a nice Triple SLI GTX setup would run through Seti@Home like crazy

04:02 <Tank_Master> the driver support has increased a lot in the past months for the 200 series

04:02 <Tank_Master> the 250 is the only 9800 derivitive

04:03 <synapt> Yeah but nVidia is imfamous for usually taking half a year to a year for releasing the best potential for the latest brand of hardware, lol

04:03 <Tank_Master> at leaste they support the lasted OSs

04:03 <Tank_Master> ATI still dosent support server 2008

04:03 <synapt> but I still love 'em, I'm an OpenGL guy so nVidia always gets on my good side

04:03 <Tank_Master> oh... then youll want the latest drievrs from nvidia

04:03 <synapt> this isn't too bad though, both my core's and the GPU are topping out at 48-50 C

04:03 <synapt> I could deal with that

04:04 <synapt> and I got them

04:04 <Tank_Master> youll get OGL 3 support now

04:04 <synapt> I know

04:04 <synapt> :P

04:04 <Tank_Master> :)

04:04 <synapt> I actually was using the beta drivers when they first implemented OpenGL 3

04:04 <Tank_Master> nice

04:04 <synapt> yeah, they were impressively stable

04:04 <Tank_Master> Im using the win7 drivers

04:04 <synapt> ironically more stable than the stable drivers were when they got released

04:04 <Tank_Master> abd yeah, they work a hella better than the vista drivers

04:04 <synapt> had a driver crash day 2 of using the stable drivers, lol

04:05 <synapt> oh well, I guess now I can get some sleep

04:05 <synapt> lol

04:05 <Tank_Master> ok

04:05 <Tank_Master> tc :)

04:05 <synapt> you as wel, and thanks all for helping :P

04:05 <Tank_Master> np

04:07 <Soul_keeper> :)

04:08 <synapt> aw thats a shame though

04:08 <synapt> the cuda processed ones don't have graphics

04:08 <synapt> lol

04:08 <synapt> I guess that would make it go kinda insane

04:09 <synapt> trying to visualize while processing

04:09 <synapt> anyways yes, bed time now

04:09 <synapt> g'night all

04:11 <Soul_keeper> gn

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04:15 <CoderForLife> &more

04:15 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Chance of rain 40 percent.; Thursday - Mostly sunny. Highs around 60. Southwest winds around 5 mph.; Freeze Warning for Hamilton County in effect until 10:00 AM EDT on April 08, 2009;

04:15 <Soul_keeper> &wx 91977

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04:15 <CoderForLife> brb  breakfast

04:16 <Tank_Master> im off to bed to, gn ye all

04:17 <efc3> moo/unmoo

04:17 <efc3> &wx 31088

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04:17 <efc3> &more

04:17 <Romulus> efc3: 60s. West winds 5 to 15 mph shifting to the southwest 15 to 20 mph in the afternoon.; Wednesday Night - Mostly clear. Lows in the mid 40s. Southwest winds up to 10 mph.; Freeze Warning for Houston County in effect until 10:00 AM EDT on April 08, 2009;

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04:24 <Soul_keeper> ok how do I save a php generated image on a website

04:24 <Romulus> <> (at

04:26 <Soul_keeper> ok I guess it's just named  cert3.php

04:26 <Soul_keeper> but is actually a .jpg

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04:27 <Soul_keeper> hmmm I wonder if i can put that on a resume ...   "certificate of computation from the university of california"

04:31 <Soul_keeper>   that must mean i'm better than you

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04:39 <efc3> Its worth a try

04:40 <Soul_keeper> :)

04:48 <CoderForLife> dang - I've only participated in SETI@HOME since May 14, 1999, contributing 211,493 Cobblestones and 10,361 Classic workunits - you must be better than me

04:51 <Soul_keeper> yeah but considering that we would both be better than like 99.8% of seti users, which is probably 1% of the population, then we are an elite few ...

04:51 <Soul_keeper> resume worthy imo, I can put whatever I want on that thing

04:52 <efc3> Lets start making decisions for the masses then

04:52 <Soul_keeper> you might not like my decisions :)

04:52 * efc3 puts a credit tax on the bottom 99%

04:52 <Soul_keeper> heh

04:53 <PovAddict> I have been looking at this semantic web stuff too much

04:53 <Soul_keeper> so they went and raised our sales tax here 1 cent, nobody even cared or noticed.  But 1 cent equates to over 13%

04:53 <efc3> i finally hooked up another project, rectilinear

04:53 <efc3> tired of s@h down every weekend

04:53 <Soul_keeper> cool

04:53 <Soul_keeper> WCG always has work

04:53 <PovAddict> I just woke up from dreaming my heart had an URI

04:54 <efc3> most projects way too big WU for dialup

04:54 <efc3> working on ditching the dialup at apartment at least

04:55 <efc3> Whats an URI?

04:56 <PovAddict> generalization of an URL

04:56 <PovAddict> Universal Resource Identifier

04:56 <efc3> oh, i thought some weird medical condition

04:56 <efc3> Like when the priest pulled the hearts out in Temple Of Doom

04:56 <Soul_keeper> PovAddict, just save up 90,000 dollars, you can buy a artificial heart from some french company

04:57 <efc3> Then your heart really might have an IP address ...

04:57 <efc3> ping -t ?

04:57 <PovAddict> so you could see my heart rate online

04:57 <Soul_keeper> they have watches that'll tell you such things

04:58 <efc3> kill -9 heart

04:58 <Soul_keeper> lol

04:58 <Soul_keeper> hacked !

04:58 * PovAddict wonders if there is a RDF ontology for organs

04:59 <PovAddict> efc: actually it'd be an HTTP DELETE request to he heart URI

05:00 <efc3> I wouldn't implement that part of the RFC but its your heart

05:09 * CoderForLife looks up from his Code

05:09 <CoderForLife> I musta missed something

05:10 <CoderForLife> looks like right after efc hooked up

05:11 <efc3> kill -9 CoderForLife

05:11 <CoderForLife> I Have The Power

05:11 <efc3> it didn't work

05:12 <CoderForLife> &any efc

05:12 <Romulus> CoderForLife: efc was last seen in #boinc 6 hours, 52 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: *** efc has quit IRC (Connection timed out)

05:13 <CoderForLife> another fine IRC session brought to you via dialup?

05:14 <efc3> i was asleep and it kicked off for some reason

05:15 <efc3> looking at getting cable

05:16 <PovAddict> efc: i wouldnt implement it either...

05:16 <CoderForLife> That's Soooo 20th Century

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08:35 <KathrynM> ok.  email from parent answered

08:35 <KathrynM> my homew*@^ is finished

08:44 <ELGono> ;)

08:44 * ELGono hands KathrynM a beer

08:52 <KathrynM> many thanks

09:02 <ELGono> ;)

09:03 <ELGono> had an error in my new timetable for uni

09:03 <ELGono> looks like i mixed up dates

09:03 <ELGono> and went there for nothing

09:03 <ELGono> and forgot money at home, so i even couldn't go to lunch ...

09:04 <ELGono> so first lunch and it's time for a beer here too

09:05 <desti>

09:05 <Romulus> <> (at

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10:12 <jackygrahamez> hi guys

10:12 <Tank_Master> jacky!!

10:14 <ELGono> &coffee

10:14 <Romulus> Here's your quad expresso!! BANG! Need an ambulance in 10 minutes?

10:16 <jackygrahamez> &coffee

10:16 <Romulus> Here's your quad expresso!! BANG! Need an ambulance in 10 minutes?

10:17 <jackygrahamez> how about quad core esspresso?

10:17 <PovAddict> i may need the ambulance...

10:17 <Tank_Master> id rather have an octicore

10:17 <jackygrahamez> well I just got I guess I can dedicate more time to boincing

10:18 <Tank_Master> LOL

10:18 <Tank_Master> the GFU left you?

10:18 <Tank_Master> sorry to hear that

10:18 <jackygrahamez> yes the Girfriend Processor Unit

10:19 <Tank_Master> guess sack time is over

10:19 <PovAddict> GirlFriend Unit

10:19 <jackygrahamez> no I guess she was not interested in any sack time, i should have dumped her months ago

10:20 <jackygrahamez> Just liked having someone to hold hads with

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10:20 <jackygrahamez> went speed dating last night

10:20 <DeLiK> hello all

10:20 <jackygrahamez> Hello DeLik

10:21 <DeLiK> is anyone using boinc wth linux?

10:26 <desti> sure

10:26 <Tank_Master> uhh... you could say yes

10:27 <Tank_Master> BOINC runs on windows/OS-X/linux/unix/solaris/BSD... you name it

10:27 <Tank_Master> even on the intel itanium processor

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10:33 <DeLiK> i'm using it too

10:34 <DeLiK> what i'm testig is the seti graphics

10:34 <DeLiK> they don't seem to work

10:35 <PovAddict> are you using the GPU app?

10:36 <Tank_Master> are you runing the optimised seti app?

10:36 <DeLiK> i'm using the one provided direcly from boinc

10:37 <PovAddict> afaik the GPU app has no screensaver graphics on any platform

10:37 <Tank_Master> ahh, ok, but are you runing them on your GPU or CPU?

10:37 <DeLiK> CPU

10:37 <Tank_Master> thats correct, pov

10:37 <DeLiK> i don't know what is a GPU?

10:37 <Soul_keeper> Tank_Master, excellent :)

10:37 <Tank_Master> ?

10:37 <Soul_keeper> good morning

10:38 <DeLiK> but that would lead us to other discuss

10:38 <Tank_Master> howdy SK

10:38 <PovAddict> well... are you using boinc 6.4 or later and do you have a fast nvidia graphics card? if yes, then your grsphics card is processing too

10:38 <Tank_Master> GPU - graphics card

10:38 <DeLiK> ah ok

10:38 <Tank_Master> but you need a GeForce 8800 or higher

10:38 <PovAddict> Graphics Processing Unit

10:38 <Tank_Master> to run SETI on the vid card

10:39 <DeLiK> ATI X600

10:39 <Tank_Master> then BOIN wont run on it

10:39 <Tank_Master> BOINC*

10:39 <DeLiK> compiz works perfeclty

10:39 <DeLiK> I have 3d accelleration

10:39 <DeLiK> on

10:39 <Tank_Master> so?

10:39 <Romulus> I guess so is that a yes, Tank_Master

10:40 <Tank_Master> stfu rommie

10:40 <Soul_keeper> lol

10:40 <DeLiK> lol

10:40 <Tank_Master> ATI cant run programs writen in the CUDA code

10:40 <Tank_Master> thats for nvidia cards only

10:40 <DeLiK> humm ok

10:40 <DeLiK> but in windows they worked with no problem

10:40 <PovAddict> so anyway

10:40 <Tank_Master> and as of now, BOIN only reconises CUDA compliant cards

10:40 <DeLiK> diferent story?

10:40 <Soul_keeper> DeLiK, AMD don't have 50 million dollars to give every startup company to write cuda programs

10:41 <Tank_Master> but ATI should be added later on

10:41 <Tank_Master> and openCL should change things to

10:42 <PovAddict> we're going off topic

10:42 <DeLiK> Tank_Master: the fact that seti graphics worked perfeclty in windows with boinc

10:42 <Tank_Master> just slightly

10:43 <jasong> You guys ever read the little engine that could?  Or David and Goliath?  AMD's David

10:43 <DeLiK> doesn't matter?

10:43 <Tank_Master> I only run windows, and I dont run SETI... :P

10:44 <Tank_Master> SK runs linux though

10:44 <DeLiK> and?

10:44 <Romulus> Somebody said and is with no internet for like a month, DeLiK

10:44 <Tank_Master> &stfu

10:44 <Romulus> You can't turn markov off! You'll just have to live with it...

10:45 <PovAddict> forget so

10:45 <Romulus> 10-4.

10:45 <PovAddict> forget and

10:45 <Romulus> I hear ya!

10:45 <DeLiK> soo

10:45 <Tank_Master> thx pov

10:45 <DeLiK> any valid reasons so that the seti graphics won't work with linux? and work in windows?

10:45 <jackygrahamez> hey, Romulus, you come here often?

10:45 <PovAddict> lol

10:45 <Tank_Master> lol

10:45 <PovAddict> he's always here

10:46 <Tank_Master> well. almost always

10:46 <Tank_Master> not sure, DeLiK

10:46 <Tank_Master> what version of linux are you runing?

10:47 <DeLiK> ubuntu 8.10

10:47 <jackygrahamez> hey is Romulus single? Is that a girl's name?

10:47 <PovAddict> it's an "it"

10:48 <Tank_Master> it nags and dosent know when to shut up, so it must be female

10:48 <DeLiK> Tank_Master: working on it?

10:48 <Tank_Master> on what?

10:49 <DeLiK> that question answers it

10:49 <DeLiK> :P

10:49 <Tank_Master> offt, like id know

10:49 <Tank_Master> im only asking cus none else seems to be

10:49 <DeLiK> and i thank you for that :)

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10:53 <Tank_Master> you guys are no help :P

10:59 <Tank_Master> man the room fell silent all of da sudden

11:01 <Tank_Master> &math convert 1.5 inch to CM

11:01 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: CM is not a valid unit.

11:02 <Tank_Master> &math convert 1.5 inch to cm

11:02 <Romulus> Tank_Master: 3.81

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11:26 <jackygrahamez> &more

11:26 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Partly sunny. Highs in the mid 60s. West winds 5 to 10 mph.;

11:26 * jackygrahamez bad to the bone

11:27 <Tank_Master> &wx 97123

11:27 <Tank_Master> &more

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11:27 <Romulus> Tank_Master: chance of rain in the morning...then a chance of showers in the afternoon. Highs around 55. Southwest wind 10 mph.;

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11:49 <Tank_Master> LOL, someone gave a bad review on the hard drive they bought becuase it didnt come with drivers... o0

11:52 <PovAddict> &grab Tank_Master

11:52 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.

11:52 <DerMeister> I would give a bad review if the drive *requires* drivers -.-

11:53 <Tank_Master> hehe

11:53 <Tank_Master> same here :P

11:54 <Tank_Master> id be all "WTF, forget this crap" and return it pronto

11:58 * ELGono had a bad day & turns up volume loud ... np: dj die - dj_die--live_at_petofi_csarnok_budapest-DAT2000-kW -- 26:26

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12:19 <PovAddict> synapt: I may contact Eric Korpela about your SETI account issues

12:21 <Soul_keeper>   look at that mess

12:21 <Romulus> <> (at

12:23 <PovAddict> lol

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13:06 * CoderForLife peeks in from w@#%

13:06 <wdsmia_w> lol Tank_Master  is uotd@mw

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13:12 * CoderForLife goes back to w@#% tasks

13:18 * FreeLarry58 sips his coffee on his sunday and feels for CoderForLife

13:19 <CoderForLife> this is my Tuesday and Thursday this week

13:20 <MTughan> <Tank_Master> ATI still dosent support server 2008

13:20 * CoderForLife sneaks in some BOINC Coding while at w@#%

13:20 <MTughan> Because Server 2008 isn't meant for consumer use.

13:20 <MTughan> You're just an outlier. :P

13:21 <CoderForLife> as opposed to an out-and-out liar

13:22 <FreeLarry58> wonders if CoderForLife having short week

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13:23 <MTughan> Mainstream support for XP ends next week, April 14.

13:24 <FreeLarry58> as opposed to M$ saying they stopped support for it last January?

13:24 <FreeLarry58> then does that make XP a candidate for reverse engineering now and open source?

13:25 <MTughan> No idea. Bug fixes will still be supplied through 2014.

13:25 <FreeLarry58> ahh that means answer to my question is no

13:25 <CoderForLife> I called in well on Monday, and it'll be a Good Friday because I'll be off from w@#%

13:26 <CoderForLife> I've decided that all weekends should be 3 days long

13:26 <FreeLarry58> lol short week then CoderForLife

13:26 <CoderForLife> so today is both Tuesday and Thursday

13:27 <FreeLarry58> but you forgot hump day CoderForLife

13:27 <FreeLarry58> the point where its nolonger uphill and the coast to weekend begins

13:27 <CoderForLife> well  I guess it's that, too

13:27 <FreeLarry58> lol

13:27 <CoderForLife> I'll on the downhill side of noon

13:28 <FreeLarry58> ahh lunch is hump day time

13:28 <CoderForLife> hence the Coding itch begins anew

13:28 <FreeLarry58> lol

13:28 <CoderForLife> just looking at my WU naming logic again

13:29 <FreeLarry58> fred judy elroy ....

13:32 <CoderForLife> not exactly

13:33 <FreeLarry58> ahh no personality then

13:33 <CoderForLife> the WUs will be uniquely named according to a scheme

13:34 <PovAddict> well, if the scheme is any similar to computer naming schemes...

13:34 <CoderForLife> it involves financial terms used as "military campaign" style names

13:34 <PovAddict> don't overdo the WU name length :)

13:34 <CoderForLife> "Gain Gambit"

13:34 * FreeLarry58 guesses his immature attempts at humor off base today and will back away -- military accornims are in his past

13:34 <CoderForLife> "Random Walk"

13:35 <CoderForLife> "Profit Plans"

13:35 <CoderForLife> etc

13:35 <PovAddict> you should add some of those self-cancelling phrases

13:35 <PovAddict> "business intelligence"

13:35 <FreeLarry58> operation dig deep in their pockets

13:36 <CoderForLife> it's up to rand()

13:36 <FreeLarry58> ie ODDEP

13:37 <PovAddict> other self-cancelling phrases: "Internet security"

13:37 <PovAddict> "Microsoft Works"

13:37 <CoderForLife> "distributed security"

13:37 <PovAddict> congress ethics?

13:37 <CoderForLife> "project plan"

13:37 <FreeLarry58> political truth

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13:40 <CoderForLife> looks like the maximum length could be 39, PovAddict

13:41 <CoderForLife> is that too long?

13:41 <PovAddict> nope

13:41 <PovAddict> just take into account the WU name plus around 5 chars will be used for filenames

13:41 <CoderForLife> yeah

13:42 <PovAddict> you'd have problems if the filename is so long that appending it to "C:\Documents and settings\All users\Application data\BOINC\projects" exceeds Windows pathname limit

13:42 <CoderForLife> it'll be a name like "Motivated-Move-10471"

13:42 <PovAddict> but BOINC won't let you name a WU longer than 256 chars anyway

13:43 <PovAddict> and NTFS path limit is something like 8192 chars or something

13:43 <CoderForLife> right

13:46 <CoderForLife> so I get the model name stuff put into the WU generator, then I work on the model equation generator piece

13:46 <CoderForLife> that's a separate C program today

13:46 <PovAddict> oh also

13:47 <PovAddict> BOINC won't let you have two WUs with the same name

13:47 <PovAddict> however

13:47 <CoderForLife> the model name generator is a spreadsheet - seeing the light of C for the first time

13:47 <PovAddict> it won't notice if you have two WUs with names differing only in case (foo vs Foo), but it will cause problems on Windows for obvious reasons (case-insensitive filesystem)

13:47 * PovAddict considers filing a bug - BOINC should notice that

13:48 <CoderForLife> yeah-that's why the number, and I'll bounce it off the workunit table to make very sure it's unique

13:48 <PovAddict> create_work instantly fails if there is a same-named WU

13:48 <MTughan> &social

13:48 <Romulus>

13:49 <MTughan> KathrynM and ELGono: You're screwing up the social diagram. :P

13:49 <PovAddict> MTughan: there it goes

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13:50 <MTughan> Still a tangled web.

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13:51 <Soul_keeper> MTughan, how come you got so many "friends" ?  :)

13:51 <MTughan> I help people. :)

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13:52 <MTughan> Or attempt to anyway...

13:59 <CoderForLife> oh what a web we weave

14:02 <synapt> PovAddict: Thanks

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15:20 <Soul_keeper> mcguiver is onboard this pirate ship, they'll be fine

15:22 <up365> If it's the MacGuyver from sat nite live then they've already blown up ;)

15:24 <Soul_keeper> heh

15:33 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx sxf

15:33 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 59°F / 15°C | Humidity: 77% | Pressure: 29.92in / 1013hPa | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h | Updated: 9:20 PM CEST; Chance of Rain. High:66 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:46 F.; Chance of Rain. High:64 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:42 F.; Scattered Clouds. High:69 F.; Clear. Low:44 F.;

15:36 <Soul_keeper> &wx 91977

15:36 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 64.4F / 18.0C | Humidity: 48% | Pressure: 29.47in / 997.9hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 3.4mph / 5.5km/h ; Today - Patchy fog early in the morning. Mostly cloudy with scattered showers. Highs 58 to 63. Light winds becoming southwest 15 mph in the afternoon. Chance of measurable precipitation 50 percent.; Tonight - Mostly (2 more messages)

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15:57 <Tank_Master> SK - MT has so meny firends because he pribs them with promases of help

15:58 <Soul_keeper> :)

15:58 <Soul_keeper> all that PM stuff, I get it

15:58 <Tank_Master> bribs*

15:58 <Soul_keeper> ahhh

15:59 <Tank_Master> mna my keyboard need to learn to type what I mean

16:04 <PovAddict> &grab Tank_Master

16:04 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.

16:05 * wdsmia_w slaps Tank_Master with keyboard

16:05 <Soul_keeper> PovAddict, don't they call that "grab assin'" in sports ?

16:06 <Tank_Master> stop grabing me, pov

16:06 <Tank_Master> :P

16:06 <ELGono> wdsmia_w:  a big old ibm keyboard?

16:07 <Tank_Master> I had one of those

16:07 <ELGono> still have in use

16:07 <ELGono> IBM & SGI

16:07 <Tank_Master> was the only keyboard I had that would take pressing 5 keys at once and not lock up

16:07 <Tank_Master> was handy for games

16:08 <ELGono> yepp

16:08 <Soul_keeper> they weigh 10lbs and have that old "color of the air" look to them

16:08 <Tank_Master> forward, slide right, while moving up, rotating, and shooting at the same time

16:08 <Soul_keeper> :)

16:08 <Soul_keeper> deleted 35GB backing up 40GB, it's upgrade season

16:08 <ELGono> test drive 1 wasn't playable with 3typo keyboard

16:08 <Tank_Master> I played descent

16:09 <ELGono> oohh yea

16:09 <Tank_Master> theres a game that took a lot of keys :P

16:09 <ELGono> had descent for nec powerVR

16:09 <Tank_Master> I had descent on my TI-83 for a bit to :D

16:09 <ELGono> and later special version for matrox

16:09 <ELGono> with newer textures

16:09 <Tank_Master> took about 5 min just to load in

16:10 <Tank_Master> doom on my TI-92 was better

16:10 <ELGono> hehehe

16:10 <ELGono> is there any platform wich doesn't have a doom port?

16:11 <Tank_Master> id guess not

16:11 <ELGono> plan9 maybe

16:13 <ELGono> ohh plan9 is dead

16:13 <ELGono> last kernel update 2002

16:13 <Tank_Master> ouch

16:14 <ELGono> well i knew they won't make it long with that mascot

16:14 <Romulus> Title: Glenda, the Plan 9 Bunny (at

16:14 <ELGono> i love space glenda

16:14 <ELGono>

16:14 <Romulus> <> (at

16:15 <Tank_Master> waa? the female population didnt flock to that?

16:15 <Tank_Master> :P

16:15 <ELGono> test the plan9 live cd

16:15 <ELGono> ;)

16:15 <Tank_Master> no th

16:15 <Tank_Master> thx

16:15 <Tank_Master> ill stick with win7

16:16 <ELGono> it was the was OS were the help command returned "command not found, see help"

16:16 <Tank_Master> LOL

16:17 <ELGono> but great for parallel computing

16:17 <Tank_Master> "help not found, please try tech support"  "tech support not found, please try help"

16:18 <ELGono> "keyboard not found, press F1 to continue"

16:18 <Tank_Master> im sure nowadays win7 with openCL is better...

16:18 <Tank_Master> yes, thats a clasic now...

16:18 <PovAddict> ELGono: that one makes sense

16:18 <Tank_Master> still see it if I dont have my USB keyboard in

16:19 <PovAddict> "keyboard not found; plug one in and press F1 to prove you did"

16:20 <Tank_Master> "keyboard not detected, please enuse it is plug in correctly and press F1 to continue"

16:20 <PovAddict> if you press F1 and nothing happens, then it's *still* not plugged in correctly

16:20 <Tank_Master> ^^ that would be a better wording

16:21 <Tank_Master> no, then you are a moron and shouldnt be messing with computers

16:24 <PovAddict> I'm trying Windows 7

16:24 <PovAddict> it seems *annoying*

16:24 <Tank_Master> how so?

16:24 <PovAddict> shows lots of useless info

16:24 <Tank_Master> ah

16:24 <Tank_Master> lol

16:25 <PovAddict> I go to Games to see what it's about, and it pops up a dialog offering me to enable some Internet update thingy for games

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16:47 <Tank_Master> mweltin!

16:48 <mweltin> Tank_Master!

16:48 <mweltin> word of advice....Flex sucks

16:48 <Tank_Master> wazzup?

16:48 <Tank_Master> lol

16:48 <mweltin> programming my brains into a wall.

16:48 <Tank_Master> sounds fun...

16:49 <Tank_Master> so after you become one with the wall, will you be dumber than a doornail?

16:50 <Soul_keeper> <Camarade_Tux> you backup your pr0n ?

16:50 <Soul_keeper> <Soul_keeper> of course ...

16:50 <mweltin> yes

16:50 <Soul_keeper> <Soul_keeper> what kinda role model would I be for young kids and church goers if I wasn't thorough

16:50 <Tank_Master> lol

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17:04 <PovAddict> Deep thought: more apps have been added to the iPhone app store in the last 8 months than to the Debian repositories in the last 15 years.

17:05 <mweltin> PovAddict: the new Jack Handy.

17:07 <Tank_Master> yeah, but how many of those apps int he app store are uniq and are of good quality *and* useful?

17:08 <Soul_keeper> PovAddict, the apps store is like the new ebay, everyone trying to make a few dollars on it selling some sorry sap something they slapped together

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17:08 <Tank_Master> or that someone else slaped together :P

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17:14 <CoderForLife> home again

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17:18 <CoderForLife> accident or ?

17:18 <Romulus> <> (at

17:19 <PovAddict> O_O

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17:44 <CoderForLife> I'll be down on the  Couch with the laptop - Coding WU generator

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17:58 <wdsmia> re-hi

17:58 <CoderOnTheCouch> hey Doug

17:59 * wdsmia hates working late

17:59 <Tank_Master> :)

17:59 <CoderOnTheCouch> and w@#%ing late hates you right back double

18:00 <wdsmia> it hates me back with time and a half ;)

18:01 <CoderOnTheCouch> there ya go

18:01 <CoderOnTheCouch> salaried folks just get hated

18:01 <chaelot|work> quick question, there's no BOINC linux client or .. ? :)

18:01 <chaelot|work> my bad

18:01 <chaelot|work> nvm

18:01 <chaelot|work> <-- idiot ;)

18:02 <CoderOnTheCouch> take the "or" fork

18:02 <chaelot|work> I got a a few boxes at home I am not using, might as well hook them up to this :)

18:03 <CoderOnTheCouch> certainly

18:03 <Tank_Master> sounds like you caught the bug

18:03 <PovAddict> &google dotsch UX

18:03 <Romulus> PovAddict: Search took 0.39 seconds: Dotsch_UX: <>; Dotsch / UX - A USB/Diskless/Harddisk BOINC Ubuntu Linux Distribution: <>; Dotsch / UX - A USB/Diskless/Harddisk BOINC Linux Distribution: (3 more messages)

18:03 <PovAddict> chaelot|work: try that ↑

18:04 <chaelot|work> PovAddict, thanks :)

18:05 <chaelot|work> one more question - there should really be a FAQ on teh seti@home page btw - how much, on average, bandwith is used?

18:05 <PovAddict> the faster your CPU the more bandwidth it uses :)

18:05 <PovAddict> since it downloads new stuff and uploads finished stuff more frequently

18:06 <chaelot|work> okok - but are we talking 40gigs/month on a 2gig processor with a compatible nvidia chip, or are we talking 40meg? :)

18:06 <chaelot|work> like a ballpark figure is enough for me :)

18:08 <PovAddict> I never measured it, and I don't run SETI anyway :)

18:08 <FreeLarry58> what size wu on dl and up and how many per day do you do?

18:08 <chaelot|work> oki - I'll try it out and see if it'll affect me or not - either way I am sure my un-used boxes can do something at least :P

18:09 <PovAddict> FreeLarry58: size of per-WU downloads is what I don't know because I don't run SETI :)

18:09 * CoderOnTheCouch sets up calls the MySQL C API from his WU generator

18:10 <FreeLarry58> yeah i know - last few i had were a few mb as AP units but they take a few days so not much internet bandwidth used

18:12 <FreeLarry58> ah that must mean tommorow CoderForLife friday and my monday

18:20 <CoderOnTheCouch> yup Friiiiiiday

18:22 <FreeLarry58> so afterwards its off to TGIF for an icecream right?

18:22 * FreeLarry58 or was that only in California

18:23 * PovAddict can't wait to go back to w$%&

18:23 <PovAddict> ...because that would mean I'm recovered healthwise

18:23 <PovAddict> stux|away|away: doubly-away?

18:23 <CoderOnTheCouch> very

18:24 <FreeLarry58> lol yeah whole life ahead of you yet - just remember to not take things so seriously and take care of yourself

18:24 <CoderOnTheCouch> get well soon PovAddict

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18:24 <PovAddict> FreeLarry58: "whole life ahead of me" is exactly why I'm worried...

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18:24 * FreeLarry58 will keep his rememberances to himself

18:25 * CoderOnTheCouch puts his autobiography back on the shelf as well

18:26 <PovAddict> horrible experience this morning... woke up and couldn't move at all

18:26 <CoderOnTheCouch> were you dreaming?

18:27 <PovAddict> I was before waking up

18:27 <PovAddict> I didn't "dream that I woke up"

18:27 <CoderOnTheCouch> that's actually a common occurence

18:27 <PovAddict> I actually did wake up

18:27 <PovAddict> and couldn't move any part of my body

18:27 <PovAddict> tried to speak, and (silent) air came out of my mouth softly instead

18:28 <CoderOnTheCouch> also associated by people with, um, alien abduction

18:28 <PovAddict> alien abduction? I think that's what I briefly dreamed

18:28 <CoderOnTheCouch> see?

18:28 <FreeLarry58> not so odd PovAddict - get that way a few time every month -- just got to force the body to respond as its still resting

18:28 <CoderOnTheCouch> part of your brain is awake, just not your motor centers

18:29 <PovAddict> I tried to cough, and the cough was too soft, like I had no energies... after two coughs the body everything suddenly "started up"

18:29 * CoderOnTheCouch takes the book off the shelf

18:29 <CoderOnTheCouch> when I was young, I often felt I was being abducted by ghosts

18:29 <CoderOnTheCouch> couldn't move

18:29 <PovAddict> there were no aliens yet? :)

18:29 <CoderOnTheCouch> floated off the bed

18:30 <CoderOnTheCouch> couldn't call out to my mom or grandmother

18:30 <FreeLarry58> physical exhastion keep me out for 3 days straight

18:30 <PovAddict> the "unable to call out" is scary, yeah

18:30 <CoderOnTheCouch> yeah - pre-UFOs =)

18:31 * PovAddict , silly as he is, also searches the internets for information and scares himself more

18:32 <PovAddict> like, a few nights ago, when I was trying to fall asleep, I had a not-too-bad chest pain, but strange thing is it extended a bit to the arm

18:32 <PovAddict> if I drew a circle of where I had the pain/disconfort, I think the center would be on the armpit

18:33 <PovAddict> then I stupidly go and search the internet and find "Classical symptoms of acute myocardial infarction include sudden chest pain (typically radiating to the left arm or left side of the neck)[...]" and worry myself more

18:34 <CoderOnTheCouch> that'll do it

18:34 <PovAddict> did I actually have myocardial infarction? I don't know, but I'll stay worried about it :/

18:35 <FreeLarry58> wouldn't worry too much as common occurance like that for me for past 20 yrs -- mostly nerve getting pinched while i sleep

18:36 <PovAddict> if I did, that worries me even *more* about what the hell happened this morning

18:36 <FreeLarry58> or inflamation of shoulder joint

18:36 <CoderOnTheCouch> if you can ask that question, you didn't

18:36 <PovAddict> CoderOnTheCouch: infarction != total heart failure and stop

18:36 <FreeLarry58> body still trying to recover from too much abuse and its telling you to take it a little more easy so it can recover

18:37 <CoderOnTheCouch> acute means grab your chest, knocks you down, you throw-up, and scream

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18:37 <CoderOnTheCouch> that kind of acute

18:37 <PovAddict> still haven't had anything *that* bad...

18:38 <FreeLarry58> soo listen to your body and start treating yourself better

18:38 <CoderOnTheCouch> nor I

18:38 <CoderOnTheCouch> but I've seen it

18:38 <PovAddict> monday and tuesday I was lightheaded, feeling like low blood pressure (but pressure was normal), feeling like I had to lay down to get a correct amount of blood to the brain

18:38 * FreeLarry58 only time acute hit me was after heavy electric jolt

18:38 <CoderOnTheCouch> yeah - like that

18:39 <PovAddict> today I still feel a bit dizzy but it's not quite the same feeling

18:39 <PovAddict> sometimes I feel like someone is grabbing my neck

18:39 <CoderOnTheCouch> my ghosts, your aliena

18:39 <CoderOnTheCouch> er aliens

18:39 <FreeLarry58> last time i had those symptoms it was inflamation of nasal passages that would drain due to tube being blocked

18:40 <PovAddict> like, I actually feel outside pressure on the Two Big Blood Tubes on the neck

18:40 <FreeLarry58> finally got it to clear with asperin, sudafed and vicks vapor rub combination

18:41 <FreeLarry58> would not drain is what i meant

18:42 <FreeLarry58> preassure started to affect inner ear equilbrim mechanizum and putting pressure on frontal lobes of brain sack area

18:42 <CoderOnTheCouch> aside - I don't think I've ever used the MySQL C API before

18:42 <PovAddict> another symptom I'm having right now is, every once in a while, I feel temperature changes in the chest near the heart

18:43 * FreeLarry58 takes hint and goes back to book

18:43 <FreeLarry58> indigestion/ acid reflux

18:43 <PovAddict> as if some colder blood was passing by

18:44 <PovAddict> FreeLarry58: well yes, on top of all this I also had "full" intestines

18:44 <CoderOnTheCouch> you could really psych yourself up to something if you try =)

18:44 <PovAddict> CoderOnTheCouch: that's what everyone is telling me, that it's all nervous

18:46 <CoderOnTheCouch> I hit my shopping cart on a corner of a shelf in the grocery store - brain tumor??

18:46 <PovAddict> you're stretching it

18:46 <PovAddict> I'm not stretching it that much...

18:46 <CoderOnTheCouch> actually it was the other woman's fault

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18:47 <Rookie_69> Ow! My face feels funny.

18:47 <CoderOnTheCouch> it's killing me

18:47 <PovAddict> Rookie_69: got punched?

18:48 <CoderOnTheCouch> I'm entirely sympathetic PovAddict - go get checked out, and put your mind at ease

18:48 <Rookie_69> I just knocked off about six moths worth of growth... and it took about half a year to grow too.

18:48 <PovAddict> CoderOnTheCouch: I went to get checked out kinda often... since it's like I go to the doctor and two days later I get a new symptom :/

18:48 * Rookie_69 plays with speeling misteaks...

18:49 <CoderOnTheCouch> just go tell them "I'm broken - you find out where and why"

18:50 <Rookie_69> They tend to stop looking when they realize broken and broke might mean the same thing...

18:50 <CoderOnTheCouch> heh

18:52 * Rookie_69 wonders where those six moths are going to live now.

18:52 <CoderOnTheCouch> I wuz wundrin

18:53 <Rookie_69> Geez... How can people shave every day?... It's so itchy.

18:53 <CoderOnTheCouch> I just reasoned that the Canadian education system was on the same level as the Argentine medical diagnostic capabilities

18:53 <PovAddict> if my beard grew fast enough to need shaving every day, I still wouldn't

18:54 <PovAddict> I'm too lazy for that

18:54 <CoderOnTheCouch> you're too young yet

18:54 <Rookie_69> Yhat's most of the reason I grow a beard in the winter.

18:54 <Rookie_69> ... that's...

18:54 <CoderOnTheCouch> and perhaps aren't in a daily situation were "scruffy" is not a fashion statement

18:55 * Rookie_69 notes that he is still single.

18:55 * CoderOnTheCouch hasn't been single for 30 years this coming June

18:56 <Soul_keeper> time to panic ?  :)

18:56 * Rookie_69 hasn't seen his couch in almost as long.

18:56 <Rookie_69> There's stuff on it.

19:00 <Rookie_69> ... like a bicycle helmet... I haven't had a bicycle in several years...

19:02 * Rookie_69 wonders if he is allowed to shoot whoever is banging on someone else's door.

19:02 <PovAddict> guess not

19:03 * Rookie_69 notes that not having a gun makes the last line moot.

19:05 <Rookie_69> My face itches!

19:06 <Rookie_69> ... and I need a haircut.

19:07 <Rookie_69> I'm not going to try that by myself again.

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19:20 * Rookie_69 finishes off his last two Swanson dinners and hopes he can call it a meal.

19:21 * Rookie_69 hides his head in shame.

19:22 <CoderOnTheCouch> buck up there

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19:24 * Rookie_69 wonders if the rest of the world is on a diet or if he has a tapeworm.

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19:26 <Rookie_69> All those frozen meals-in-a-box seem to make about half a meal... if I throw in a sandwich.

19:27 <CoderOnTheCouch> I've found that chocolate cake goes well with diet food

19:28 <Rookie_69> ... or instead of...

19:28 <CoderOnTheCouch> sure

19:28 <Rookie_69> .

19:31 * Rookie_69 assumes he will be back tomorrow... Any friday that he gets off is a good friday.

19:31 <Rookie_69> :-)

19:31 <Rookie_69> NN.

19:31 <CoderOnTheCouch> cya

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20:00 <KathrynM> holy heck.  I just had a 10 minute conversation with a parent.  Unfortunately, I have no idea whose parent it was.

20:01 <PovAddict> &grab KathrynM

20:01 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.

20:02 <Tank_Master> KM!

20:03 <Tank_Master> damnit pov, your grabby today

20:04 <PovAddict> &grab Tank_Master

20:04 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.

20:04 <PovAddict> so?

20:06 <PovAddict> this tool looks great

20:06 <PovAddict> rsibreak

20:07 <PovAddict> it's designed to avoid repetitive strain injury

20:07 <PovAddict> forces you to rest X seconds every Y minutes of typing

20:07 <PovAddict> (configurable)

20:08 <PovAddict> default 20 secs rest every 10 mins and 1 min rest every 60 mins

20:08 <CoderOnTheCouch> did you understand the conversation?

20:09 <PovAddict> hmm?

20:09 <PovAddict> what conversation?

20:09 <CoderOnTheCouch> KathrynM:

20:09 <PovAddict> oic

20:09 <CoderOnTheCouch> sorry

20:10 <CoderOnTheCouch> nuf from the CodingCouch

20:10 <CoderOnTheCouch> gn all

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22:33 <efc> &math convert 1 fluid ounce to tablespoons

22:33 <Romulus> efc: Error: fluid is not a valid unit.

22:33 <Tank_Master> o0

22:34 <efc> have to quote it

22:34 <efc> its 2

22:34 <PovAddict> &units volume

22:34 <Romulus> PovAddict: volume units: cc, cubic centimeter, liter, L, litre, deciliter, centiliter, milliliter, mL, dekaliter, hectoliter, kiloliter, kL, cubic meter, megaliter, gallon, gal, quart, qt, pint, pt, fluid ounce, fl oz, ounce fluid, cup, tablespoon, tbsp, teaspoon, tsp, barrel, bbl, shot, fifth, wine bottle, magnum, keg, bushel, peck, cord, board foot, board feet

22:44 <efc> figuring how much batter to fry one or two mushrooms

22:45 <Tank_Master> batter?

22:46 <Tank_Master> you just smoke them and be done with it

22:46 <PovAddict> &google calc 1 fluid ounce in tablespoons

22:46 <Romulus> PovAddict: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.

22:46 <PovAddict> &google calc 1 fluid ounce in table spoons

22:46 <Romulus> PovAddict: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.

22:46 <PovAddict> &google calc 1 fluid ounce in spoons

22:46 <Romulus> PovAddict: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.

22:47 <efc> The package has enough batter to try about two pounds ..

22:48 <Tank_Master> stop using google's calc ans use a real one

22:48 <Tank_Master> it obviouly dosent work

22:48 <PovAddict> "spoon" not a unit anywhere

22:48 <Soul_keeper> table spoon  or tea spoon

22:49 <MTughan__> &math convert 1 "fluid ounce" to tablespoons

22:49 <Romulus> MTughan__: 2

22:49 <MTughan__> Idiots... :P

22:49 <PovAddict> I didn't see tablespoon listed

22:49 * PovAddict slaps MTughan

22:49 <MTughan__> It's a couple words after fluid ounce.

22:49 <PovAddict> yeah saw it now

22:49 <MTughan__> "fluid ounce, fl oz, ounce fluid, cup, tablespoon"

22:49 *** MTughan__ is now known as MTughan

22:50 <PovAddict> still don't call me idiot *slaps again*

22:50 <efc> Do they actually do recipes in mL or cc's in the civilized/metric part of the world?

22:50 <PovAddict> &grab efc

22:50 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.

22:50 * efc hands out firearms

22:50 <PovAddict> (for saying civilized/metric)

22:50 <MTughan> Probably mL.

22:50 <MTughan> Oh, sorry...

22:50 <efc> Was that a nice grab, or a not so nice grab?

22:50 <MTughan> No, my mom's recipes are in cups and tbsps.

22:51 <MTughan> bbl

22:51 <PovAddict> &ungrab

22:51 <Romulus> PovAddict:

22:53 <efc> PrettyKitty

22:54 * Soul_keeper only likes cats that are big enough to kill and eat dogs

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23:42 <FreeLarry58> hum wonder if fc8 i guess 32 bit can be upgraded to f10 x86_64?

23:43 <PovAddict> upgrades changing bitness are never possible; you need a clean install

23:43 <FreeLarry58> ahh leave it to PovAddict to rain on the parade of cussing here

23:43 <FreeLarry58> at least wont try now ;)

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