00:08 <KathrynM> took me 20 minutes to figure out what allergy med the doc gave me yesterday.
00:11 <PovAddict> hope you aren't allergic t ocats
00:12 <KathrynM> nah, it's the crap outside
00:21 <PovAddict> I thought making a SUID-root shell script to do this would be unsafe, because of the many ways that a shell script could be attacked
00:22 <PovAddict> and that maybe I should write a C program instead, using a library instead of running an external command
00:22 <PovAddict> turns out the latter is my ONLY option
00:22 <PovAddict> SUID root shellscripts don't work at all, the operating system doesn't let me have one
00:23 <PovAddict> (they don't run as root even if they're owned by root and suid bit is set)
00:27 <KathrynM> did you get the email, PovAddict?
00:27 <PovAddict> yes
00:27 <PovAddict> so what's the problem? :)
00:28 <KathrynM> it doesn't compile
00:29 <PovAddict> errors?
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00:29 <KathrynM> darn it
00:29 <KathrynM> wrong email
00:29 <KathrynM> there
00:29 <KathrynM> that's the right one
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00:40 <CoderForLife> I guess I'll try sleeping again
00:40 <CoderForLife> re-gn
00:41 <KathrynM> night
00:42 <XioNYC> G'night.
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00:43 <PovAddict> that was quite an X hang
00:44 <PovAddict> KathrynM: downloading wx
00:47 <PovAddict> pastebin your setup.h (generated by wx's configure)
00:47 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - Upload a Text or Source File (at pastebin.ca)
00:48 <KathrynM> setup.h.in?
00:49 <PovAddict> no; configure should have read setup.h.in and created a setup.h from it
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00:49 <KathrynM> don't have it.
00:49 * PovAddict checks for sure
00:49 <KathrynM> let me start from scratch
00:50 <PovAddict> ok it's not in the current dir...
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00:50 <KathrynM> where is it?
00:50 <Romulus> It has been said that it is built dynamically, KathrynM
00:50 <PovAddict> lib/wx/include/gtk2-unicode-release-static-2.8/wx/setup.h
00:50 <PovAddict> Romulus: forget it
00:50 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: There is no such factoid.
00:50 <PovAddict> forget it
00:50 <Romulus> Okay!
00:51 <PovAddict> two factoid plugins at once = mess
00:51 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
00:51 <KathrynM> Rommie's just a mess in general
00:52 <PovAddict> somehow configure thought you have no 'bool'
00:52 <PovAddict> pastebin config.log (that's quite a long one so you may want to use pastebin.ca, since it can take a file upload, instead of copy-paste)
00:54 <KathrynM> waiting for it to upload
00:56 <PovAddict> o_o how big is it?
00:57 <KathrynM> dunno
00:57 <KathrynM> gonna ftp it up to my site
00:57 <PovAddict> gzip it first
00:58 <KathrynM> k
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00:59 <KathrynM> hmmm, only 255k
01:00 <PovAddict> maybe that's still more than the pastebin is happy with
01:00 <KathrynM> hells bells
01:00 <KathrynM> stupid ff
01:02 <zombie67> bizarre, some machines can contact BOINC alpha (but not getting any work), while others get http errors
01:05 <KathrynM> hopefully that'll work PovAddict
01:05 <KathrynM> I gotta figure out what my panel log in is.
01:05 <PovAddict> worked
01:05 <KathrynM> k
01:06 <PovAddict> wow, how did *anything* work?
01:06 <PovAddict> ./configure: line 23171: g++: command not found
01:06 <zombie67> pov, any new news on freehal security?
01:07 <PovAddict> zombie67: nope
01:07 <KathrynM> dunno, but it did
01:08 <PovAddict> KathrynM: not sure why configure finished at all, or why make said 'bool' was redefined instead of failing to run the compiler at all, since you seem to lack g++ (C++ compiler)
01:08 <KathrynM> want me to start from scratch?
01:08 <KathrynM> I swear I installed g++ yesterday
01:08 <PovAddict> what does "g++ --version" say?
01:08 <KathrynM> g++ (GCC) 4.3.2 20081105 (Red Hat 4.3.2-7)
01:09 <KathrynM> let me start from scratch
01:09 <PovAddict> then configure is living under a rock
01:09 <KathrynM> lol
01:09 <PovAddict> or, you installed g++ after running configure and didn't re-run it afterwards; but that sounds very unlikely
01:10 <KathrynM> confgure running now
01:10 <KathrynM> configure went fine
01:10 <KathrynM> running make
01:11 <KathrynM> seems like it's gotten further
01:11 <PovAddict> still hasn't failed?
01:11 <KathrynM> nope
01:11 <KathrynM> Linux hates me
01:12 <KathrynM> I can't sync with the time server.
01:12 <KathrynM> I have no sound.
01:12 <PovAddict> Ctrl-C and run make -j5 instead; you have a quad now :)
01:12 <KathrynM> holy heck, much faster
01:12 <PovAddict> no sh...
01:12 <KathrynM> lol
01:12 <KathrynM> any tips for setting up ssh on the local network?
01:12 <KathrynM> besides a good password
01:13 <KathrynM> I'm trying to figure out the best way to copy over all the data from the old machine to the new one.
01:13 <KathrynM> need to copy ~/kathryn and /Data
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01:13 <PovAddict> if anyone else will have an account on your machine, add "AllowUsers kathryn" to sshd_config to make sure only your account works through ssh
01:14 <PovAddict> because not everyone will have a password as safe as you
01:14 <PovAddict> <- learned hard way
01:14 <Tank_Master> bah
01:14 <KathrynM> only other account on the machines is boinc
01:14 <Tank_Master> got d/c somehow
01:15 <KathrynM> doing make install now
01:15 <PovAddict> you can't login to 'boinc' at all (except through su) so you're fine
01:15 * Tank_Master uses a strong password - password1!
01:15 <KathrynM> lol
01:15 <KathrynM> ok, wxWidgets installed
01:15 <PovAddict> "The most common password used to be 'password'; now it's 'password1'. Who said people never learn about security?"
01:16 <KathrynM> now to attempt BOINC
01:16 <KathrynM> lol
01:16 <Tank_Master> hehe pov
01:17 <KathrynM> guess I'll go for trunk
01:17 <KathrynM> and maybe I'll install svn
01:17 <KathrynM> :/
01:17 <PovAddict> what's the purpose of this btw?
01:17 <KathrynM> to get the regression scripts running again
01:17 <KathrynM> and for fun
01:18 <PovAddict> I wanted to write a synecdoche build script that announced failure on IRC immediately
01:18 <KathrynM> heh
01:18 <KathrynM> ooo, gotta install alpine too
01:19 <PovAddict> text mail client?
01:19 <KathrynM> yup
01:19 <KathrynM> use it for reading system mail
01:19 <KathrynM> getting a new system set up is definitely a pita
01:20 <PovAddict> I wanted one of those but all seemed to be a pain to use
01:20 <KathrynM> alpine is really easy
01:20 <KathrynM> reminds me of how I read my email in college.
01:21 <KathrynM> gah, cat just knocked my cell phone into her food bowl
01:21 <KathrynM> good thing she eats dry food
01:21 <PovAddict> and good thing it wasn't the water bowl
01:21 <KathrynM> true
01:21 <PovAddict> what's your experience on debian/ubuntu?
01:21 <KathrynM> me?
01:21 <KathrynM> haven't used it in ages
01:21 <PovAddict> ever used aptitude?
01:24 <KathrynM> I used apt-get when I was trying ubuntu.
01:24 <KathrynM> but that was almost 2 years ago
01:29 <KathrynM> PovAddict, what was the configure line? --disable-server --enable-client --enable-unicode
01:30 <PovAddict> yes
01:30 <PovAddict> the manager can be turned on and off separately with --enable-manager (but "enabled" is the default)
01:30 <KathrynM> k
01:34 <KathrynM> holy heck, it built
01:35 <Tank_Master> lol
01:35 <Tank_Master> congratz
01:35 <KathrynM> I'm a whole lot better at this than I used to be
01:36 <Tank_Master> nice
01:36 <zombie67> sometimes it feels like voodoo. "turn right, shake head, back up one step, and it works!" While the steps work, there is no understanding them.
01:36 <Tank_Master> woot, just compleated a 23h WU from ABC
01:36 <Romulus> Title: File:Aptitude.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
01:37 <PovAddict> I think it would be useful to have a TUI-based BOINC Manager, looking like aptitude
01:37 <PovAddict> for users on headless machines... they always get confused with boinccmd
01:38 <PovAddict> there is a boinc_curses app: http://www.oook.cz/bsd/boinc_curses/boinc_curses_000.png
01:39 <PovAddict> but it relies on keystrokes to do commands, not shown on screen
01:47 <XioNYC> A BOINC Manager using a TUI?
01:49 <XioNYC> Kewl !-)
01:57 <zombie67> <core_client_version>6.6.20</core_client_version>
01:57 <zombie67> <![CDATA[
01:57 <zombie67> <message>
01:57 <zombie67> process got signal 10
01:57 <zombie67> </message>
01:57 <zombie67> <stderr_txt>
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03:10 <efc> &wx 30625
03:10 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 61°F / 16°C | Humidity: 52% | Pressure: 30.05in / 1018hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Lows in the lower 50s. Light and variable winds.; Sunday - Chance of showers and thunderstorms in the morning... then thunderstorms and showers likely in the afternoon. Some thunderstorms may be severe in the afternoon. (1 more message)
03:10 <efc> &more
03:10 <Romulus> efc: Highs in the lower 70s. South winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 60 percent.; Sunday Night - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers and thunderstorms in the evening...then a chance of showers after midnight. Lows in the upper 50s. Southwest winds 5 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.;
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06:56 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
06:56 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 56.1°F / 13.4°C | Humidity: 65% | Pressure: 29.88in / 1011.7hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Occasional showers. Highs in the lower 60s. South winds 5 to 10 mph...becoming southeast 10 to 15 mph this afternoon. Chance of rain 100 percent.; Tonight - Occasional showers in the evening...then showers (1 more message)
06:56 <CoderForLife> &more
06:56 <Romulus> CoderForLife: likely after midnight. Lows in the lower 50s. South winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 100 percent.; Monday - Showers likely. Highs in the mid 50s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 70 percent.;
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07:55 <KathrynM> omg. I think I'm going to explode.
07:55 <KathrynM> I just ate a 10 course meal at the local chinese place.
08:03 <Soul_keeper> :)
08:18 <KathrynM> hmmm, I'm about to see if I can break my Fedora install. Gotta futz with fstab
08:18 <KathrynM> wish me luck
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09:15 <Soul_keeper> Good Morning.
09:16 <Soul_keeper> &wx 91977
09:16 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 59.7°F / 15.4°C | Humidity: 37% | Pressure: 29.38in / 994.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Sunny...warmer. Highs 88 to 93. Winds east 15 mph. Gusts to 30 mph near the foothills.; Tonight - Clear. Lows 53 to 61. Winds east 15 mph with gusts to 25 mph in the evening becoming light.; Monday - Sunny. Highs 91 to (1 more message)
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10:27 <Soul_keeper> so yeah, I was flipping thru channels on tv yesterday ...
10:27 <Soul_keeper> turns out some dude named "gay" was winning at golf
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11:18 <Soul_keeper> Wake !
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11:39 <e-30> h9ow is everyone
11:40 <Soul_keeper> rene zellweger is hot :)
11:40 <Soul_keeper> watching "leatherheads"
11:40 <e-30> dam that sucks big time
11:41 <e-30> cool
11:41 <Soul_keeper> what sucks ?
11:42 <e-30> temp
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13:50 <HafkensitE> Hi, I would like to use the boinc-manager for windows only to connect to the boinc-client on my linux box. Can I disable the auto-startup of the client on windows xp?
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13:59 <HafkensitE> Hi yoyo[RKN]
13:59 <HafkensitE> I would like to use the boinc-manager for windows only to connect to the boinc-client on my linux box. Can I disable the auto-startup of the client on windows xp?
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14:18 <Soul_keeper> yes you can do that. just run the boinc manager ....
14:19 <HafkensitE> then it pops up the 'add a project' wizard and it runs the client in the background
14:21 <Soul_keeper> I don't know enough about the windows app, works fine in linux, just have to edit the gui_rpc_auth.cfg with a password
14:22 <HafkensitE> oke, thankyou ill try to figure it out
14:23 <Soul_keeper> everyone is sleeping past noon today it seems ...
14:34 <HafkensitE> I renamed boinc.exe, so it can't start
14:34 <HafkensitE> dirty trick but it worked
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14:35 <Soul_keeper> :)
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14:53 <yoyo_RKN> &wx sxf
14:54 <Romulus> yoyo_RKN: Temperature: 52Â°F / 11Â°C | Humidity: 50% | Pressure: 30.27in / 1025hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h | Updated: 8:20 PM CEST; Clear. High:60 ° F.; Clear. Low:33 ° F.; Clear. High:64 ° F.; Clear. Low:37 ° F.; Clear. High:68 ° F.; Clear. Low:35 ° F.;
15:10 <wdsmia> &wx 50319
15:10 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 57.9°F / 14.4°C | Humidity: 63% | Pressure: 29.90in / 1012.4hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 6.0mph / 9.7km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. Isolated light showers in the morning. High in the upper 50s. North wind 15 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph. Chance of showers 20 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Colder. Low in the upper (1 more message)
15:10 <wdsmia> &more
15:10 <Romulus> wdsmia: 30s. Northwest wind 10 to 20 mph.; Monday - Partly sunny. A 20 percent chance of light showers in the afternoon. High in the upper 50s. Northwest wind 15 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph.;
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15:45 <jasong> For those who might be wondering why their machine suddenly became so god-awful slow, check if you have a camb workunit running.
15:45 <jasong> That thing has been murdering my machine for days, but it took me 3 days to figure it out
15:45 <Soul_keeper> &dict camb
15:45 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: No definition for "camb" could be found.
15:45 <jasong> cosmology@home stuff
15:46 <jasong> camb is an acronym
15:46 <jasong> i forget the definition, though
15:46 * jasong returns to the game that camb has been ruining
15:46 <Soul_keeper> ahhh here I was thinking maybe the "California Association of Mortgage Brokers" had their own boinc project :)
15:52 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.
15:53 <Soul_keeper> hello
16:00 <Soul_keeper> bla, so boring here on the weekend
16:04 <jasong> tentative scratch(taking it back) on the idea that camb is screwing up my machine, since other stuff seems to be fubar as well. My computer seems to be getting corrupt data, but only the desktop and it's been going on for a while. I keep thinking it's fixed when it isn't
16:04 <PovAddict> memtest time?
16:06 <Soul_keeper> einstein slow lately
16:06 <jasong> no memory and cpu are fine, passed prime95 totally
16:07 <jasong> something to do with the cd drive, hard drive, or their cables in my opinion
16:07 <jasong> another possibility is that my laptop burner is bad
16:07 <jasong> I think I'll test the laptop theory first
16:08 <jasong> How do you md5sum an already burned iso?
16:09 <jasong> I want to read the md5 of the cd
16:09 <PovAddict> on Windows, you can't
16:09 <jasong> no, on Linux
16:09 <PovAddict> there are some CD burning programs that let you compare the whole disk to an .iso file though
16:09 <PovAddict> on Linux, md5sum /dev/cdrom
16:09 <jasong> thanks
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16:27 <jasong> lol, it's been my laptop burner all this time
16:27 <jasong> I have a bad burner
18:00 <Soul_keeper> I had one go out on a laptop before too
18:00 <Soul_keeper> left a cd in the driver over the weekend, and it kept powering up/down by the time monday came around the drive had burned itself out
18:00 <Soul_keeper> drive*
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18:03 <Soul_keeper> lo
18:03 <Tank_Master> firkin software d/c me again
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19:20 <Soul_keeper> &wx 91977
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19:20 <Soul_keeper> GEEZE
19:20 <Soul_keeper> 100F
19:20 <Soul_keeper> cpu sitting at 73C now
19:30 <MTughan> Ouch.
19:30 <MTughan> Mine's sitting at 60-61C.
19:32 <Soul_keeper> i'm surprised it didn't crash
19:32 <Soul_keeper> gpu hit 78C
19:33 <MTughan> The CPU is over the recommended temperature Intel says, IIRC.
19:33 <Soul_keeper> i'll prolly have to back down my oc for the summer
19:33 <MTughan> It's a Q9550?
19:33 <Soul_keeper> 9450 yeah
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19:33 <MTughan> 9450, okay...
19:34 <MTughan> It's start throttling when the heatspreader reaches 71.4C.
19:35 <MTughan> Apparently, that temperature is at the geometric center of heatspreader.
19:35 <MTughan> So you're probably very close to throttling.
19:36 <Soul_keeper> I should have all that stuff disabled in bios and kernel
19:36 <MTughan> What, throttling?
19:37 <MTughan> That may be something you can't override, and if you have overridden it, you're past the point where it would've started to throttle.
19:41 <Soul_keeper> yeah I got everything relating to safety turned off :)
19:41 <Soul_keeper> just a "warning temp" and "shutdown temp" setting
19:41 <Soul_keeper> so it'll beep if I hit like 80c and shutdown at like 85C
19:42 <Soul_keeper> I saw the 71.4 number in the datasheets, just snagged them off the intel site right now
19:44 <Soul_keeper> there is no way to keep this from happening when ambient temps hit 100F
19:44 <Soul_keeper> even with watercooling I doubt i could fight it much
19:44 <Soul_keeper> &convert 100F to C
19:44 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Error: The command "convert" is available in the Currency and Math plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "convert".
19:44 <Soul_keeper> &math convert 100F to C
19:44 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Error: 100F is not a valid unit.
19:44 <Soul_keeper> &math convert 100 F to C
19:44 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: 37.7777777778
19:45 <Soul_keeper> hmm
20:12 <CoderForLife> gn boincfans
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20:36 <Tank_Master> .
20:38 <Tank_Master> what program do you guys use to read the cpu temp?
20:42 <Tank_Master> im using core temp, sais my atom is 60/68
20:42 <Tank_Master> that seems like a big diff between the 2 cores
20:42 <Tank_Master> Tj, Max is 125c though :P
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21:16 <Soul_keeper> sensors, lm sensors tool
21:17 <Soul_keeper> the coretemp module is wrong on my system too
21:17 <Soul_keeper> reading from the winbond controller on my system gives the correct result tho
21:20 <Soul_keeper> specifics matter :)
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