IRC logs of #boinc for Monday, 2009-04-20

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00:06 <PovAddict> hey xcamel

00:07 <xcamel> hey there..

00:07 <MTughan> Crud... "The system cannot write to the specified device. (0x1d) - exit code 29 (0x1d)"

00:08 <MTughan> &boincerr 39

00:08 <Romulus> MTughan: Error: I couldn't find 39 in boincerr.

00:08 <xcamel> back from mexico..

00:08 <MTughan> &boincerr 29

00:08 <Romulus> MTughan: Error: I couldn't find 29 in boincerr.

00:08 <MTughan> Neither...

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00:08 <MTughan> It's a Windows error it seems. Not sure what caused it though.

00:08 <PovAddict> MTughan: positive almost always means app-specific

00:10 <PovAddict> xcamel: regret being back? :P

00:10 <MTughan> PovAddict: Any idea what it could be?

00:10 <MTughan> I suspended all work after two WUs failed one after another like that.

00:11 <PovAddict> MTughan: app-specific; only the project devs would know

00:11 <MTughan> Trying to run another WU now, it's been 7 minutes CPU time with no progress...

00:11 <MTughan> PovAddict: It's a Windows error, Googled it.

00:11 <MTughan> It's just being passed through the app.

00:11 <xcamel> masa mino

00:12 <PovAddict> app called exit(29), BOINC pretended it was a windows error and asked Windows to give a description

00:12 <MTughan> Ah...

00:12 <xcamel> like a billion emails..

00:14 <PovAddict> xcamel: I didnt go on a long holiday, and yet I have 600 unread, most from boinc mailing lists

00:14 <PovAddict> most are all the same... about the mess introduced with GPUs

00:14 <xcamel> 225 and counting

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00:21 <MTughan> Ah, good...

00:21 <MTughan> That WU has started to checkpoint.

00:21 <MTughan> Almost 15 minutes after starting, but it's going.

00:21 <Soul_keeper> it crashed MTughan :/

00:21 <MTughan> Soul_keeper: It was a WCG Clean Energy Project WU. Two of them.

00:21 <Soul_keeper> clocked her down 100Mhz and a little voltage just in case i get more hot days

00:22 * PovAddict crashes Soul_keeper

00:22 <MTughan> Three are going right now, along with a DDDT WU. Two of the CEPs are checkpointing, which the crashed ones didn't.

00:22 <Soul_keeper> dropping my vid card clocks down too

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00:23 <MTughan> PovAddict: If I accidentally switched my hard drives to different SATA ports and Windows thought it had to reinstall the drivers, would it cause an I/O error while it was reinstalling?

00:24 <PovAddict> I just yesterday learned that switching SATA ports was so easy compared to IDE (master-slave, jumpers, etc)

00:25 <MTughan> Yeah, only one drive per port.

00:25 <PovAddict> I'm a hardware noob

00:26 <MTughan> But if Windows was reinstalling drives, could that possibly cause an I/O error?

00:26 <MTughan> drivers*

00:26 <PovAddict> I'm halfway between buying prebuilt branded computers and building my own: I get someone to custom-build them for me

00:26 <MTughan> lol

00:27 <MTughan> I could do that for you, if not for the distance. :P

00:27 <PovAddict> I/O error: Id say you left a cable loose when swapping ports :P

00:28 <MTughan> If I did that, I wouldn't be booting the system now, would I?

00:28 <PovAddict> not totally disconnected

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00:29 <PovAddict> I mean not correctly connected so that a pin stopped making contact for a split second

00:30 <PovAddict> but whadda I know

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00:30 <Soul_keeper> hmmmm

00:31 <MTughan> I suppose it's possible.

00:31 <Soul_keeper> looks like the shader clock on my gpu has a multiplyer or something similar,  2.5x the gpu speed

00:32 <PovAddict> 'IO error' is quite non-specific

00:32 <MTughan> Yeah.

00:32 <Soul_keeper> guess i'll have to find me a good indepth read on the inerworkings of the G92

00:32 <MTughan> I was looking at a write error in particular, taking the Windows error message literally as the actual error.

00:32 <MTughan> I'm gonna try pushing the SATA connectors in.

00:32 <PovAddict> if you got an IO error I'd tell you to check /var/log/syslog for details, but...

00:32 <MTughan> There was nothing in any logs.

00:33 <PovAddict> it's windows, no such syslog :p

00:33 <Soul_keeper> just don't go unplugging/replugging stuff while the comp is on :)  atleast I know from experience that's a bad idea with ide

00:33 <Soul_keeper> sparks and smoke :)

00:33 <MTughan> Soul_keeper: I've shut it off.

00:33 <MTughan> And it's not IDE, but SATA.

00:34 <MTughan> PovAddict: There are system logs.

00:34 <Soul_keeper> yeah just saying

00:34 * Soul_keeper says important things

00:34 <PovAddict> SATA is hot-swappable in theory, but no PC I know supports it... it's more for servers I guess

00:34 <Soul_keeper> yeah SAS

00:35 <MTughan> PovAddict: If no PC supported it, why does eSATA exist?

00:36 <PovAddict> 1.whats eSATA?

00:36 <PovAddict> 2. no PC I know != no PC

00:36 <Soul_keeper> i think they just put the e on there when they went to  sata150  so it sounds cooler

00:37 <MTughan>

00:37 <Romulus> <> (at

00:37 <Soul_keeper> errr sata300

00:37 <PovAddict> oh, of course PCs support SATA, I mean they dont support hot swapping

00:37 <MTughan> eSATA != SATA, not quite.

00:38 <MTughan> Same pins, same signals, but more robust connector.

00:38 <PovAddict> at least in the internal ports :)

00:38 <MTughan> eSATA isn't meant for internal ports.

00:39 <PovAddict> well duh, the 'e' says it all

00:39 <Soul_keeper> "here is a special connector (eSATA) specified for external devices"            shows how much I know about things I can't afford to be buying ...

00:39 <MTughan> I've got an external enclosure with eSATA.

00:39 <Soul_keeper> cool

00:40 <MTughan> Not that much more expensive to go for a drive with eSATA over one without.

00:40 <PovAddict> I guess for eSATA they'd support hot swap :p

00:41 <MTughan> PovAddict: Only disadvantage is that eSATA still doesn't provision support for power.

00:41 <Soul_keeper> heck they have hot swapable cpu and memory options in the linux kernel,  i'd bet money just about anything could be hotswapped if the software level gets out of the way

00:42 <MTughan> Hot swappable CPU? WTF?

00:42 <Soul_keeper> yep

00:42 <PovAddict> my mobo manual has a big warning in the relevant sectiom saying not to touch SATA connections with PC running; but SATA spec does have hotswapping features, its just my mobo doesnt support it

00:42 <Soul_keeper> I guess for multi socket setups of some kind

00:42 <MTughan> Hot swappable RAM I could see use for...

00:42 <MTughan> Ah yeah, that makes sense.

00:43 <Soul_keeper> linux can do anything :)

00:43 <MTughan> PovAddict: Older chipsets don't, and even mine doesn't really seem to... Not sure if it's a hardware or a software problem.

00:43 <PovAddict> hot-swappable PSU? :p

00:43 <MTughan> I think it's software, because I believe I have used hot-swappable eSATA in Vista.

00:44 <Soul_keeper> so you having issues with mw work still MTughan ?

00:44 <PovAddict> well it's 'software', but note a BIOS has quite lowlevel access to things

00:44 <jasong> hot-swappable psu would work for a laptop, but I guess that's not what you mean

00:45 <MTughan> Soul_keeper: I was. Haven't tried for a couple days.

00:45 <PovAddict> I saw a BIOS update that fixed a possible electrical leak...

00:45 <Soul_keeper>   you're gonna wait till i'm like 10pts away from catching you then kick in 100K per day huh ?

00:46 <MTughan> I'm waiting until their GPU project opens.

00:46 <PovAddict> the fact that they're making a separate project shows how much BOINC GPU support sucks...

00:48 <Soul_keeper> that'll be cool when einstein gets in the game

00:50 <PovAddict> &learn eSATA as External SATA

00:50 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.

00:56 <MTughan> rofl...

00:56 <Romulus> Title: xkcd - A Webcomic - Can't Sleep (at

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03:20 <CoderForLife> wb xcamel

03:20 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

03:20 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 54.6F / 12.6C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 29.50in / 998.9hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Overnight - A slight chance of showers late this evening...then showers redeveloping with a slight chance of thunderstorms. Lows in the lower 50s. South winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 90 percent.; Monday - Showers. Highs (1 more message)

03:20 <CoderForLife> &more

03:20 <Romulus> CoderForLife: in the upper 50s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. Chance of rain 90 percent.; Monday Night - Cloudy. Occasional showers with a slight chance of thunderstorms in the evening...then a chance of showers after midnight. Lows in the lower 40s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 60 percent.;

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03:20 <efc> moo cfl

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03:52 <CoderForLife> moo efc

03:54 <ELGono> moo don, eddie

03:55 <CoderForLife> hey J

03:56 <CoderForLife> is spring springing in Germany?

03:58 <ELGono> jepp weekend was a bit wet, but now blue skies again

04:04 <efc> &wx 31088

04:04 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 66F / 19C | Humidity: 79% | Pressure: 29.80in / 1009hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 14mph / 22km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Showers likely with a chance of thunderstorms. Some thunderstorms may be severe. Lows in the lower 60s. Southwest winds around 10 mph. Chance of rain 60 percent.; Monday - Partly sunny in the morning then clearing. (1 more message)

04:04 <efc> &more

04:04 <Romulus> efc: Highs in the mid 70s. West winds 10 to 15 mph.; Monday Night - Mostly clear. Lows in the upper 40s. West winds up to 10 mph.;

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04:28 <CoderForLife> excellent ELGono - a good report

04:56 <ELGono> &weather meiningen,germany

04:56 <Romulus> ELGono: Temperature: 54°F / 12°C | Humidity: 67% | Pressure: 30.21in / 1023hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h | Updated: 10:50 AM CEST; Clear. High:62 F.; Clear. Low:41 F.; Clear. High:62 F.; Clear. Low:39 F.; Clear. High:62 F.; Clear. Low:37 F.;

04:57 <ELGono> &weather erfurt,germany

04:57 <Romulus> ELGono: Temperature: 47.1°F / 8.4°C | Humidity: 77% | Pressure: 30.23in / 1023.6hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 2.4mph / 3.9km/h | Updated: 10:00 AM CEST; Clear. High:60 F.; Clear. Low:37 F.; Clear. High:60 F.; Clear. Low:35 F.; Clear. High:62 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:35 F.;

04:57 <ELGono> hmm meiningen ;)

04:57 <ELGono> but perfect for biking

05:18 <ELGono> well off for biking downtown... laterz

06:01 <CoderForLife> off to w@#% - laterz

06:02 <Tank_Master> &wx 97123

06:02 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 51.4F / 10.8C | Humidity: 76% | Pressure: 30.00in / 1015.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows around 45. North wind 5 to 10 mph.; Monday - Sunny. Highs around 80. Afternoon northwest wind 5 to 10 mph.; Monday Night - Mostly clear. Lows 45 to 50. North wind 5 to 10 mph.;

06:02 <Tank_Master> &more

06:02 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more.  To do so, call this command with that person's nick.

06:13 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

06:13 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 45.0F / 7.2C | Humidity: 75% | Pressure: 29.84in / 1010.4hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. Isolated showers in the afternoon. Breezy. High in the upper 50s. Northwest wind 15 to 25 mph with gusts to around 35 mph. Chance of showers 20 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Low in the mid 30s. (1 more message)

06:13 <wdsmia> &more

06:13 <Romulus> wdsmia: Northwest wind 10 to 20 mph. Gusts up to 30 mph in the evening.; Tuesday - Mostly sunny. High in the lower 60s. Northwest wind 15 to 20 mph.;

06:23 <Tank_Master> gn ye all

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07:46 <KathrynM> &wx ulsan

07:46 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 61°F / 16°C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 29.44in / 997hPa | Conditions: Rain | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 17mph / 28km/h | Updated: 8:00 PM KST; Rain. High:75 F.; Rain. Low:59 F.; Chance of Rain. High:68 F.; Partly Cloudy. Low:55 F.; Clear. High:64 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:50 F.;

07:46 <KathrynM> yup, sure is raining

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08:22 <KathrynM> so we got 2 new computers at work.  Core Duos (hello, I wonder how much they paid for the ancient technology) running Vista basic.

08:22 <KathrynM> Wanna take bets that they have no AV, autoupdates are off and UAC is off

08:24 <desti> oracle eats sun

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09:04 <Soul_keeper> desti, looks like sun got a pretty good deal

09:04 <Soul_keeper> "The $9.50-a-share buyout agreement equates to a 42% premium over Sun's Friday closing price. "

09:04 <Soul_keeper> $7.4 billion

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11:21 <Soul_keeper>

11:21 <Romulus> <> (at

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12:20 <jackygrahamez> hi

12:21 <Soul_keeper> hello

12:22 <jackygrahamez> where is yoyo when you need him :-)

12:23 <Soul_keeper> dunno, what's going on ?

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12:29 <MTughan> jackygrahamez: You asked?

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12:37 <jackygrahamez> hi yoyo!

12:38 <yoyo[RKN]> hi

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13:15 <Soul_keeper> <elf2> "Members of Congress should wear uniforms like NASCAR drivers so we could identify their corporate sponsors.".

13:15 <PovAddict> their or they're?

13:16 <PovAddict> changes meaning completely

13:18 <Soul_keeper> excellent observation PovAddict !

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13:36 <jackygrahamez> I got a scripting challenge here

13:39 <jackygrahamez> Trying to extract structures from a file containing multiple structures

13:39 <jackygrahamez> I think there must be a way to do this with grep

13:39 <PovAddict> depends on what the file is like

13:39 <PovAddict> pastebin?

13:39 <jackygrahamez> yeah one sec

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13:42 <jackygrahamez>

13:42 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at

13:42 <Soul_keeper> what language are you using ?

13:43 <Soul_keeper> or you doing a bash script ?

13:43 <PovAddict> what format is that?

13:43 <jackygrahamez> It does not mater to me, I was going to try doing something with grep

13:44 <Soul_keeper> i'm not clear on exactely what you need done

13:44 <jackygrahamez> yeah so if it can be done in bash that would be fine

13:44 <PovAddict> well I don't know what a "structure" is in that file, it just looks like a bunch of numbers

13:45 <jackygrahamez> it starts off at a #  Name: for every structure

13:45 <jackygrahamez> I only provided the first 300 lines

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13:45 <jackygrahamez> if I do a grep I can return the line number where each line beggins

13:47 <Soul_keeper> so you want all the contents from  # Name:   up to the next occurance of  # Name:   to be put into a separate file, or printed to the console ?

13:47 <PovAddict> I suggest ex

13:50 <jackygrahamez> I will want to provide a parameter calling the filename and then have the script return the output of the file, I can handle the rest on my own easily...never used ex before so I should probably read about it

13:50 <PovAddict> ex is vim running permanently in command mode

13:50 <jackygrahamez> so everything between the name which is provided as a parameter

13:50 <PovAddict> is that a pdb file?

13:50 <jackygrahamez> mol2 format

13:51 <jackygrahamez> it will be used for docking mostly

13:53 <PovAddict> this one?

13:53 <Romulus> Title: Sybyl mol2 - Open Babel (at

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13:54 <jackygrahamez> yes and all I really need is to take the data between the names

13:54 <jackygrahamez> I'm not planning on doing any additional formating

13:54 <Soul_keeper> take it where ?

13:54 <jackygrahamez> at least through this script

13:55 <jackygrahamez> supply the input for an AutoDock Workunit

13:56 <jackygrahamez> The script will also help with the NCI Diversity Set which is available for free from NIH

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14:06 <jackygrahamez> they export that in a similiar way except use MDL SD format. I can use open babel to convert to mol2 format

14:06 <Romulus> <> (at

14:08 <Soul_keeper> yeah I got no idea what you want

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14:08 <jackygrahamez> yes so if I supply the name 23874

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14:09 <jackygrahamez> then I want it to return all the lines until it hits the next line that says "name"

14:09 <PovAddict> jackygrahamez: you could probably use openbabel to take one structure out of the whole thing, instead of processing the text

14:09 <jackygrahamez> what would be a good way to tackle that

14:09 <jackygrahamez> maybe

14:09 <jackygrahamez> I'll see if that's supported

14:11 <jackygrahamez> probably easy if I do it php

14:11 <PovAddict> openbabel has python bindings

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14:23 <jackygrahamez> looks like openbabel is the way to go

14:23 <Romulus> Title: Obgrep - Open Babel (at

14:24 <jackygrahamez> BUT it is using smarts

14:24 <jackygrahamez> I'll take it up with their listserv

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14:25 <yoyo[RKN]> hmm, Tank_Master joind, seems to be late

14:25 <Tank_Master> whats a good mobo got the 45nm core2quad for overclocking?

14:25 <Tank_Master> for*

14:26 <Tank_Master> its not late, its only 11:30AM (and yes, I just got up :P)

14:26 <yoyo[RKN]> <--- 8:30pm

14:27 <Tank_Master> :)

14:27 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx sxf

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15:12 * Soul_keeper could write jacky's program in C but don't get payed for that :)

15:13 <Soul_keeper> contract work would be so fun

15:18 <jackygrahamez> somebody show me the way to the money

15:18 <Tank_Master> lol

15:18 <PovAddict> -> $

15:18 <Tank_Master> say your a bank and ask for handouts

15:18 <PovAddict> &grab Tank_Master

15:18 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.

15:19 <Soul_keeper> I already wrote 75% of the code to do what he needs in C, me eyeballs his paypal account and thinks about 100 dollars :)

15:21 <Soul_keeper> there are sites to post "contract programmer, contact .... for quote..."   right ?

15:21 <PovAddict> there are sites where people post "I want to do X and offer $Y for it"

15:21 <jackygrahamez> I think I figured out how to do it now

15:21 <PovAddict> and you apply

15:21 <PovAddict> you could try that

15:21 <PovAddict> Soul_keeper:

15:21 <Romulus> Title: Rent A Coder: How Software Gets Done -- Home of the worlds' largest number of completed software projects (at

15:27 <Soul_keeper> impressive, thanks for the link

15:29 <Soul_keeper> &wx 91977

15:29 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 99.5F / 37.5C | Humidity: 16% | Pressure: 29.89in / 1012.1hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 9.9mph / 15.9km/h ; Today - Sunny. Highs 93 to 98. Light winds.; Tonight - Clear. Lows 55 to 62. Light winds.; Tuesday - Mostly sunny. Highs 82 to 87 in the western valleys to 89 to 94 near the foothills. Light winds.;

15:29 <Soul_keeper> Clear    105.8 F

15:31 <Tank_Master> ill brb

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15:49 <Soul_keeper>    lol check that demo out, actually flipping thru pages in a book   ON THE COMPUTER

15:49 <Romulus> <> (at

15:51 <PovAddict> retarded UI

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15:57 <Soul_keeper> PovAddict, maybe so. but i've never seen anything like that

15:57 <Soul_keeper> PovAddict, don't you speak spanish ?

15:57 <PovAddict> yes, and?

15:58 <Soul_keeper> Was looking at job that would be easy for a spanish speaker

15:58 <Soul_keeper> Did I affend you by asking ? :)

15:59 <Soul_keeper> translation of 114 page book from english to spanish for the welding depot store

15:59 <PovAddict> 114 pages? I have more interesting things to do with my life

15:59 <PovAddict> and for that number of pages they might as well get a professional, not someone who happens to know both languages

15:59 <Soul_keeper> no bids, could easily throw down 100 a day (depending on how long you think it would take)  ...

16:00 <Soul_keeper> ok well speaking to you is obviousely wasting time.  bye.

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16:05 <Soul_keeper> 12-guage to the face would be a preferred method for dealing with people on irc that I don't like

16:05 * Soul_keeper has the best methods :)

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16:10 <Romulus> WB, Boss

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16:15 <Romulus> WB, Boss

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16:32 <MTughan> 'lo TM

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16:56 <xcamel> 'lo

16:56 <MTughan> 'lo Jay

16:57 <xcamel> damn I'm still tired..

16:59 <PovAddict> mexican tiredness

16:59 <xcamel> travel, jet lag

17:02 <PovAddict> how many hrs difference?

17:05 <Soul_keeper> Clear    108.3 F    here now, still climbing    hmmmm

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17:17 <CoderForLife> home again - din-din then back at my desk

17:18 <wdsmia_> re-hi

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17:19 <MTughan> 'lo Doug, Don.

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17:22 <Romulus> WB, Boss

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17:34 <xcamel> a close one... cpu fan nearly died...

17:35 <wdsmia> full of feathers?

17:35 <xcamel> no

17:43 <CoderForLife> re-hi

17:43 <CoderForLife> wb xcamel

17:44 <CoderForLife> hey wdsmia MTughan

17:45 <xcamel> 'lo Don

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17:47 <CoderForLife> good to be home?

17:50 <xcamel> yes and no

17:52 <xcamel> looks like I have everything working correctly again now..

17:53 <xcamel> &wx 12074

17:53 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 42.0F / 5.6C | Humidity: 79% | Pressure: 30.11in / 1019.5hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 7.0mph / 11.3km/h ; Tonight - Rain. Lows in the lower 40s. East winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain near 100 percent.; Tuesday - Mostly cloudy. Rain likely in the morning...then a chance of showers in the afternoon. Highs in the mid 50s. East winds 5 (1 more message)

17:53 <xcamel> &more

17:53 <Romulus> xcamel: to 10 mph. Chance of rain 70 percent.; Tuesday Night - Mostly cloudy with a 50 percent chance of showers. Lows in the mid 40s. East winds around 5 mph...becoming south after midnight.; Special Weather Statement for Saratoga County in effect until 6:15 PM EDT on April 20, 2009;

17:53 <xcamel> &wx MMLP

17:53 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 91°F / 33°C | Humidity: 16% | Pressure: 29.88in / 1012hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 11mph / 18km/h | Updated: 2:50 PM MDT; Partly Cloudy. High:86 F.; Partly Cloudy. Low:64 F.; Scattered Clouds. High:93 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:66 F.; Scattered Clouds. High:95 F.; Clear. Low:64 F.;

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18:04 <Tank_Master> &wx 97123

18:04 <Tank_Master> &more

18:04 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 88.0F / 31.1C | Humidity: 22% | Pressure: 29.91in / 1012.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Clear. Lows 45 to 50. Northwest wind 5 to 10 mph.; Tuesday - Mostly sunny. Highs around 80. Northwest wind 5 to 10 mph.; Tuesday Night - Mostly clear. Lows 45 to 50. Northwest wind 5 to 10 mph.;

18:04 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more.  To do so, call this command with that person's nick.

18:04 <Tank_Master> toasty

18:05 <zombie67> &wx 94568

18:05 <Romulus> zombie67: Temperature: 94.5F / 34.7C | Humidity: 21% | Pressure: 29.95in / 1014.1hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Today - Sunny and hot with record high temperatures possible this afternoon. Highs in the mid 90s. Northeast winds around 5 mph becoming northwest in the afternoon.; Tonight - Clear. Lows in the upper 50s. West winds 5 (1 more message)

18:06 <zombie67> &more

18:06 <Romulus> zombie67: to 10 mph.; Tuesday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the mid 90s. Northeast winds around 5 mph...becoming west in the afternoon.; Heat Advisory for Alameda County in effect until 8:00 PM PDT on April 20, 2009;

18:06 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

18:06 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 46.5F / 8.1C | Humidity: 68% | Pressure: 29.87in / 1011.4hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Ice Pellets | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Late This Afternoon - Mostly cloudy with isolated showers. Breezy. Northwest wind 20 to 25 mph with gusts to around 35 mph. Chance of showers 20 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Low in the mid 30s. Northwest wind 10 to 15 mph (1 more message)

18:06 <xcamel> very toasty

18:08 <zombie67> I win

18:08 <zombie67> yet by Friday, the highs will from from mid-90s to mid-50s

18:11 <PovAddict> Lennart: Men are struck by lightning four times more often than women.

18:11 <PovAddict> DoES: This is logical as only 1 in 4 women are taller than their husband / partner.

18:11 <zombie67> men play WAY more golf

18:11 <PovAddict> true

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18:14 <xcamel> here 42 now, 80 by the weekend.

18:15 <zombie67> i blame al gore

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18:18 <CoderForLife> ouch ouch ouch

18:18 <zombie67> hot enough for ya?

18:18 <PovAddict> netsplit

18:18 <CoderForLife> whatwuzdat?

18:18 <zombie67> my machines are screaming

18:18 <xcamel> dunno

18:19 <PovAddict> the IRC network spanning tree broke in half

18:19 <CoderForLife> I was frigging alone in 5 rooms, except with Frankbot over in ##pentaho

18:20 <CoderForLife> seems like the server "holmes" was isolated

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18:21 <xcamel> and the left you to watch it...

18:23 <CoderForLife> seems so

18:23 <CoderForLife> I re-IRCed

18:23 <CoderForLife> are dashes considered valid characters in WU names?

18:24 <xcamel> Boston police arrest suspect in Craigslist Killer case...

18:28 <jasong> Is there an easy way to get a computer to boot an iso on an external drive?

18:30 <xcamel> can a caveman do it?

18:30 <zombie67> it easy with a mac

18:30 <MTughan> jasong: No, you'll have to select the boot device on startup.

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19:13 <Romulus> WB, Boss

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19:51 <KathrynM> morning

19:52 <Soul_keeper> hello KathrynM

19:53 * Soul_keeper isn't too good to say hello :)

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19:58 <Soul_keeper> why the hell am I hear ?

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20:24 <XioNYC> &wx LGA

20:24 <Romulus> XioNYC: Temperature: 45F / 7C | Humidity: 90% | Pressure: 29.92in / 1013hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Rain | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 28mph / 44km/h ; Tonight - Periods of rain and scattered thunderstorms. Some thunderstorms may produce heavy rainfall. Windy. Lows in the upper 40s. East winds 15 to 25 mph with gusts up to 35 mph...becoming southeast 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph (2 more messages)

20:24 <XioNYC> &more

20:24 <Romulus> XioNYC: after midnight. Chance of rain near 100 percent.; Tuesday - Mostly cloudy with scattered showers and thunderstorms. Highs in the lower 60s. Southeast winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.; Tuesday Night - Mostly cloudy. Scattered showers and thunderstorms in the evening...then isolated showers after midnight. Lows in the upper 40s. South winds 10 to 15 mph...becoming southwest 5 to (1 more message)

20:24 <XioNYC> &more

20:24 <Romulus> XioNYC: 10 mph after midnight. Chance of rain 50 percent.;

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22:08 <jasong> Quick question:  If I copy a raw Linux image of a Linux install iso to my USB disk, will that make it bootable?

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22:16 <XioNYC> jasong: Most likely, no.

22:16 <XioNYC> I've tried it.

22:21 <CoderForLife> gn all

22:22 <Tank_Master> gn

22:27 <zombie67> okay

22:28 <zombie67> I have a BOINC folder on my desktop (linux)

22:28 <zombie67> what is the process to upgrade?

22:28 <zombie67> can I just d/l the latest, and copy/past boinc and boinc manager?

22:29 <jasong> If you're lucky :)

22:29 <jasong> back up firist

22:29 <jasong> -i

22:29 <zombie67> is there a more proper process?

22:29 <jasong> There's nothing proper about boinc

22:30 <zombie67> TRVTH

22:30 <zombie67> the good news:  my machines made it through the 95+ degrees

22:31 <PovAddict> jasong: making a bootable USB disk isn't that easy

22:31 <PovAddict> for starters, the bootloader in an .iso is specifically made to read further files from a CD

22:31 <Tank_Master> its easy for win7, why not linux?

22:31 <PovAddict> see unetbootin

22:32 <PovAddict> Tank_Master: is it as easy as "burning" the Windows .iso to an USB drive?

22:33 <PovAddict> Windows CD isn't even bootable (as in, doesn't boot a usable Windows, boots the installer)

22:33 <zombie67> *I* have made a bootable linux ISO thumb drive.  so it can't be that hard

22:33 <PovAddict> not hard, needs the right tools :)

22:35 <zombie67> I don't recall any special tools

22:36 <PovAddict>

22:36 <Romulus> Title: UNetbootin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at

22:38 <zombie67> bookmarked THAT!

22:40 <PovAddict> network booting is fun too

22:43 <Tank_Master> pov - for win7 all you have to do is create an ntfs or fat partition, mark it active, and copy the contents of the iso to the flash drive

22:44 <Tank_Master> and there are live windows disks, though somewhat limiting compaited to a full windows install

22:45 <zombie67> how again do i disable cpu power managment in linux (ubuntu) again?

22:46 <zombie67> does the atom even support that anyway?

22:46 <zombie67> i'm putting it on WEP

22:46 <Tank_Master> yeah, it does

22:47 <zombie67> another problem is that it is running only 2 tasks

22:47 <Tank_Master> HT still on?

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22:48 <zombie67> never turned it off, just rebooted into yeah

22:48 <Tank_Master> strange

23:03 <zombie67> upgrading from 6.4.5 to 6.6.20 fixed it

23:03 <zombie67> however, last time I ran linux, 6.4.5 worked just fine

23:03 <zombie67> *shrug*

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23:13 <zombie67> oh yeah, I had to downgrade my 8-way mac

23:13 <zombie67> ws 6.6.23

23:13 <zombie67> was

23:14 <zombie67> the BOINC client would suddenly die after a minute or two for no reason

23:14 <zombie67> going back to 6.6.20 fixed it

23:16 <zombie67> brb

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