IRC logs of #boinc for Sunday, 2009-04-26

00:04 <KidpunkX> Romulus: yes

00:04 <Romulus> KidpunkX: Are you daft?

00:04 <KidpunkX> Romulus: I'am draft

00:04 <Romulus> KidpunkX: Are you daft?

00:04 <KidpunkX> Romulus: yes

00:04 <Romulus> KidpunkX: Are you daft?

00:04 <KidpunkX> yes

00:04 <KidpunkX> wtf..

00:04 <KidpunkX> that thing is worst

00:04 <Soul_keeper> http://api.ning.com/files/f1qUU9SqpDLiccnVGkwkqSPuMxIHPHSE2l-zKjUD-DReZnQZiNiOQyITMNDzeINOGnVSdNEdrFUXOYwXiEnAIVLfYI1uFf5n/GIT_R_DONE.jpg

00:04 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/djx5v7> (at api.ning.com)

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01:08 <XioNYC> Romulus: Daft?

01:08 <Romulus> XioNYC: Are you daft?

01:08 * XioNYC feels an Abbot & COstello moment coming up

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02:31 <yoyo[RKN]> moin

02:31 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx sxf

02:32 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 57°F / 14°C | Humidity: 59% | Pressure: 29.95in / 1014hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h | Updated: 8:20 AM CEST; Unknown. High:64 F.; Clear. Low:50 F.; Clear. High:71 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:57 F.; Chance of Rain. High:68 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:55 F.;

02:32 <yoyo[RKN]> &coffee

02:32 <Romulus> Here's your quad expresso!! BANG! Need an ambulance in 10 minutes?

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02:41 <Tank_Master> howdy yoyo

02:55 <Tank_Master> jackygrahamez still here?

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04:02 <ELGono> LLLOOOOLLLL

04:02 <ELGono> https://www.sysedata.no/nyheter/edvin-tables#english

04:02 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/d6zoly> (at www.sysedata.no)

04:17 <KathrynM> almost 5900 pending at ABC

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05:04 <CoderForLife> indeed

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05:04 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

05:05 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 60.0F / 15.6C | Humidity: 89% | Pressure: 30.14in / 1020.5hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs in the mid 80s. South winds 5 to 10 mph...increasing to around 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph this afternoon.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows around 60. South winds 10 to 15 mph.; Monday - Mostly sunny. (1 more message)

05:05 <CoderForLife> &more

05:05 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Highs in the mid 80s. South winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph.;

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05:29 <PovAddict> sheesh

05:30 <PovAddict> Soul_keeper: dont bring your drunk friends in here again -.-

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05:55 <DerMeister> ... Sounds like I missed something :P

05:57 <PovAddict> fortunately

05:58 <PovAddict> it's 6.45 am, I havent slept since 10am yesterday, just came back from a birthday party where I noticed I'm more inhibited than I thought

05:59 <CoderForLife> hmm

06:00 <CoderForLife> cyberPov is not inhibited

06:00 <PovAddict> and here I am, extremely sleepy but still IRCing from my itouch, proving the internet addiction

06:00 <PovAddict> CFL: o rly

06:01 <CoderForLife> you don't seem to hold back - you participate fully here

06:01 <CoderForLife> with good results

06:02 <CoderForLife> I'm still staring at 3 unresolved external symbol link errors

06:02 <CoderForLife> if I stare long enough, maybe they'll flinch and go away

06:04 <DerMeister> I don't think so :)

06:04 <PovAddict> the answer is 42

06:04 <PovAddict> also, Ive noticed everybody develops a separate personality on the internet

06:06 <PovAddict> when I chat thru the net to someone I know in real life, he seems like a different person... the way he writes doesnt match the way he talks IRL

06:06 <PovAddict> often minor diffs

06:07 <CoderForLife> o rly lk hw =)

06:09 <PovAddict> wats rong wid the wai i rite?

06:09 <CoderForLife> I feel like adding a hint to the code: "Pssst... look for your external symbol over in parse.o"

06:09 <PovAddict> (approximate but real quote from a friend of a friend)

06:10 <CoderForLife> I rit fonetiklee

06:11 <PovAddict> her MSN personal message had a bit of a poll... starting with 'hu finks i shud go to...'

06:12 <PovAddict> time to go sleep for 14hrs - bye

06:12 <CoderForLife> well, that's about the worst (werst) I've seen

06:12 <CoderForLife> cya

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07:51 <CoderForLife> blah - "namespace conflicts" - found my problem

07:51 <CoderForLife> both SQLite and BOINC had a module named "parse.c"

07:52 <CoderForLife> at link time, function references in the SQLite version could not be found

07:54 <CoderForLife> found it by looking at the build log, and seeing that a compile of the "parse.c" alone from SQLite was actually compiling the BOINC "parse.c"

07:54 <CoderForLife> got a good compile/link of my app  - now to start testing

07:57 <CoderForLife> yay - now the Windows and Linux outputs match!

07:57 <CoderForLife> \o/

08:04 <CoderForLife> time to go out for a victory lap, do some yardwork, and consider next steps

08:04 <CoderForLife> bbl

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08:29 <MTughan> xcamel: You really need to add more error messages to Rommie...

08:31 <MTughan> But I'm off again.

08:34 <xcamel> 'lo

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08:40 <ELGono> rehi

08:41 <ELGono> xcamel : https://www.sysedata.no/nyheter/edvin-tables#english

08:41 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/d6zoly> (at www.sysedata.no)

09:00 <xcamel> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap090426.html

09:00 <Romulus> Title: APOD: 2009 April 26 - NGC 4676: When Mice Collide (at antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov)

09:08 <xcamel> nice one

09:12 <CoderForLife> re-hi

09:13 <CoderForLife> yes, nice APOD xcamel

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09:27 <xcamel> cooler, but allot more humid today

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09:32 <CoderForLife7477> sometimes I just hate RoadRunner

09:32 <CoderForLife7477> looks like they jerked a router wire

09:33 <xcamel> what a disturbing image that is...

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09:35 <CoderForLife> trying to get all my Internet services working again

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09:36 <CoderForLife> ditto me

09:36 <xcamel> > /deop

09:36 <CoderForLife> since you were there =)

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09:37 <CoderForLife> thx

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09:37 <CoderForLife> I have never got that working on #boinc_dev

09:37 <xcamel> Got the audi out yesterday... the yard is starting to look like a used car lot.

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09:41 <xcamel> see webcam

09:43 <CoderForLife> lol - if you were selling, you have to have a license

09:45 <CoderForLife> nice fleet

09:45 <CoderForLife> took down some trees in the feed corner?

09:46 <xcamel> and 3 cars are missing/out of view..

09:46 <xcamel> off to do some chores.

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10:43 <xcamel> &wx 12074

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10:44 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: Unknown host.

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13:38 <Soul_keeper> Basically I'm better than all of you.

13:38 <jackygrahamez> I'm sorry

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13:50 <Soul_keeper> Excellent work jackygrahamez

13:54 <Soul_keeper> you bastards need to wake up already

13:54 <Soul_keeper> sleeping till noon isn't good for anybody

13:58 <jackygrahamez> I got too much sun yesterday

13:59 <jackygrahamez> now I'm trying to figure out how to create a chile process in perl

14:00 <jackygrahamez> and make the parent wait for the child

14:01 <Soul_keeper> cool

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14:09 <masterx831> hey all

14:09 <Soul_keeper> dun dun dun !!

14:09 <masterx831> MTughan are you there?

14:09 <masterx831> &weather 32817

14:09 <Romulus> masterx831: Temperature: 81.1F / 27.3C | Humidity: 44% | Pressure: 30.31in / 1026.3hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 8.0mph / 12.9km/h ; This Afternoon - Partly sunny and breezy. Highs in the mid 80s. East winds 15 mph and gusty.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows in the mid 60s. East winds 5 to 10 mph.; Monday - Partly sunny. Breezy. Highs in the mid 80s. East (1 more message)

14:09 <TSPer> masterx831: Temperature: 81.1F / 27.3C | Humidity: 44% | Pressure: 30.31in / 1026.3hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 8.0mph / 12.9km/h ; This Afternoon - Partly sunny and breezy. Highs in the mid 80s. East winds 15 mph and gusty.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows in the mid 60s. East winds 5 to 10 mph.; Monday - Partly sunny. Breezy. Highs in the mid 80s. East (1 more message)

14:09 <masterx831> wtf..

14:10 <masterx831> i should run

14:10 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

14:10 <masterx831> MTughan nice bot!

14:10 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 64.1F / 17.8C | Humidity: 94% | Pressure: 29.73in / 1006.7hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Light Thunderstorms and Rain | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Rest of Today - Cloudy...breezy...warmer. A chance of thunderstorms early in the morning...then thunderstorms likely in the late morning and afternoon. Some thunderstorms may be severe with damaging wind and (3 more messages)

14:10 <TSPer> wdsmia: Temperature: 64.1F / 17.8C | Humidity: 94% | Pressure: 29.73in / 1006.7hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Light Thunderstorms and Rain | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Rest of Today - Cloudy...breezy...warmer. A chance of thunderstorms early in the morning...then thunderstorms likely in the late morning and afternoon. Some thunderstorms may be severe with damaging wind (3 more messages)

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14:16 <masterx831> PovAddict what's wrong with you? That's what we need more racial people living in america

14:17 <masterx831> &commands

14:17 <Romulus> masterx831: #boinc, 'veryquiet', 8b, 8ball, action, actor, add, airport, alert, announce, answer, any, aol, append, apply, apropos, areacode, artist, asin, at, author, babelize, ban add, ban list, ban remove, base, bchset, beer, bighello, binary, boinc, boincerr, bold, books, botsnack, bticket, bw, bye, cache, cad, cake, calc, capabilities, capability add, capability list, capability remove, (7 more messages)

14:19 <masterx831> &artist

14:19 <Romulus> masterx831: (artist [--url] [--{music,classical}] <artist>) -- Returns a list of items by the given artist. If --url is specified, a link to amazon.com's page for the match will also be returned. The search defaults to using --music.

14:19 <masterx831> &artist toby kieth

14:19 <Romulus> masterx831: Error: You must have a free Amazon web services license key in order to use this command.  You can get one at <http://www.amazon.com/webservices>.  Once you have one, you can set it with the command "config supybot.plugins.Amazon.licensekey <key>".

14:19 <masterx831> well let me go run to KFC brb

14:20 <masterx831> oh yeah install wesnoth

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14:23 <jackygrahamez> &whatis KFC

14:23 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Error: No factoid matches that key.

14:24 <jackygrahamez> &beer

14:24 <Romulus> Here's your beer, jackygrahamez... Now drink up before I slap you silly!

14:29 <Soul_keeper> KFC is kentucky fried chicken !

14:34 <jackygrahamez> anyone here good at perl?

14:35 <Soul_keeper> sure

14:36 <jackygrahamez> maybe I can post the script and show you what I've been toiling with for the past 3 hours

14:36 <Soul_keeper> ok

14:36 <jackygrahamez> here is were I'm having problems...I could post the entire script if you want http://pastebin.ca/1403474

14:36 <Soul_keeper> i've been in C mode lately, but i'll see what I can hash up

14:37 <masterx831> &cache

14:37 <Romulus> masterx831: (cache <url>) -- Returns a link to the cached version of <url> if it is available.

14:37 <masterx831> &cache www.xvideos

14:37 <Romulus> masterx831: Error: 'www.xvideos' is not a valid url.

14:37 <masterx831> &cache www.xvideos.com

14:37 <Romulus> masterx831: Error: 'www.xvideos.com' is not a valid url.

14:37 <jackygrahamez> reason I'm using system, I want the child process to extract a ligand before the rest of the script executes

14:37 <Soul_keeper> pastebin isn't loading

14:38 <jackygrahamez> I went to a different pastbin because the one I usually use was not loading

14:40 <Soul_keeper> "Network Timeout"

14:40 <Soul_keeper> there we go

14:42 <Soul_keeper> babel   ?

14:43 <jackygrahamez> yup

14:43 <jackygrahamez> trying to extract using babel

14:43 <Soul_keeper> i've never used babel, don't have it installed

14:46 <jackygrahamez> you see any problems with the way I construct the array though? I put each argument as different element in the array

14:46 <jackygrahamez> I was trying to follow these instructions http://perldoc.perl.org/functions/system.html

14:46 <Romulus> Title: system - perldoc.perl.org (at perldoc.perl.org)

14:47 <Soul_keeper> /usr/local/bin/babel -isdf /usr/local/NCI/PLATED.sdf -omol2 /home/boincadm/drugdiscovery/ligand.mol2 --filter "title='1'"

14:47 <Soul_keeper> does that work manually at the command line ?

14:47 <jackygrahamez> yes

14:48 <jackygrahamez> that's why I'm scratching my head

14:48 <Soul_keeper> i'd have to study babel, seems like that's where the problem is to me

14:49 <jackygrahamez> ok well at least I'm not making an obvious mistake here

14:49 <jackygrahamez> I'll ask the babel list

14:51 <Tank_Master> hey jackygrahamez

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14:57 <CoderForLife> re-hi

14:58 <Soul_keeper> :)

14:58 <Tank_Master> wb

14:58 <CoderForLife> thx - Sunday projects done

14:58 <Tank_Master> :)

14:58 <Soul_keeper> oooh the club

14:58 <Soul_keeper> [PLAYING] [00:19:264] 05_-_Country_Club

14:58 <CoderForLife> heh

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15:00 <Tank_Master> haha

15:02 <CoderForLife> somebody took xcamel's fleet and replaced it with 2 sheds

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15:25 <Soul_keeper> PovAddict, did you report me for scraping to boincstats for viewing 3 pages a day ?

15:26 <Tank_Master> shame on you

15:26 <Tank_Master> :P

15:26 * masterx831 takes notes

15:26 <Soul_keeper> http://boincstats.com/forum/forum_thread.php?id=1161

15:26 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/7p7bdh> (at boincstats.com)

15:26 <Soul_keeper> that's a lot PovAddict

15:27 <Soul_keeper> the bastard did report me

15:27 <Soul_keeper> thanks*

15:27 <Soul_keeper> like my 3 wgets a day causes any load

15:27 <Tank_Master> LOL

15:27 <Tank_Master> wow, did he realy?

15:27 <Soul_keeper> he even posted the irc logs from here on their forum and tattled on me

15:28 <Tank_Master> o0

15:28 <Soul_keeper> that's uncalled for

15:29 <Tank_Master> bad pov

15:29 <Soul_keeper> he's what you call a snitch

15:29 <Tank_Master> now I know who to kline

15:30 <Soul_keeper> guess i'll have to snag the data from different ip's

15:31 <Tank_Master> yep

15:31 <Soul_keeper> PovAddict, you'll get yours you little rat

15:31 <Tank_Master> should use POV's

15:33 <Soul_keeper> viewing 3 websites a day, and downloading them once for viewing several times a day    you do the math on which one stresses the server the least

15:35 * CoderForLife watches where this conversation is going

15:37 <CoderForLife> speaking of going - bio break - brb

15:38 <PovAddict> ELGono: did you try gparted?

15:38 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx sxf

15:38 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 63°F / 17°C | Humidity: 42% | Pressure: 29.74in / 1007hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h | Updated: 9:20 PM CEST; Clear. High:71 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:57 F.; Scattered Clouds. High:71 F.; Overcast. Low:55 F.; Scattered Clouds. High:71 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:51 F.;

15:41 <ELGono> well did not try anything so far pov

15:41 <Soul_keeper> PovAddict, why do you feel you need to single me out to website admins like that ?

15:42 <ELGono> just need to be shure i can enlarge and restore and ext3 with journal when the enlarged partition starts before the original starting block of that ext3

15:43 <ELGono> think its not a big deal to append free blocks to a running partition without loosing data

15:43 <Soul_keeper> not even man enough to respond, your true colors have shown PovAddict

15:43 <ELGono> but i want to move the beginning of a 2nd partition

15:44 <ELGono> wich sounds like save partition to external disc, shrinking first without loosing data, enlarging second with loosing data and restoring data from external again

15:45 <ELGono> but i got stucked in latex so far

15:45 <ELGono> just solved a \footnote problem within tables

15:47 <PovAddict> ELGono: gparted is a frontend to several command line tools; you  can resize ext3 and ntfs without losing data but the filesystems must not be mounted

15:47 <Soul_keeper> So I can't even view my boincstats anymore because of PovAddict

15:49 <MTughan> wdsmia: Sorry, but what are people to do when Rommie goes down?

15:49 <MTughan> Just going to make him join once more to make sure he's off the autojoin list...

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15:50 <MTughan> ...

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15:50 <wdsmia> the same thing they did before Bots :P

15:50 <MTughan> &part

15:50 <Romulus> MTughan: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.

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15:50 <MTughan> Would you let me part the stupid bot?!

15:50 <XioNYC> Duck and cover!!

15:50 <XioNYC> Duck and cover!!

15:50 * XioNYC runs for the fallout shelter

15:50 <MTughan> I don't know if kick/banning a Supybot removes it from the autojoin list.

15:51 *** wdsmia sets mode: -o wdsmia

15:51 <MTughan> Nvm, it has...

15:52 <MTughan> Supybot devs did think of that.

15:53 <wdsmia> I could just ban the ip ;)

15:53 <XioNYC> .o0( ...is it safe?  I mean, it looks safe.  But so do malls full of guna and ammo in all those zombie movies... )

15:54 <MTughan> I'm just trying to be helpful to step in when Jay's connection drops, and you threaten to ban my IP?

15:54 <Soul_keeper> Hello wdsmia XioNYC masterx831  !!!

15:54 <XioNYC> Hiya!

15:54 <XioNYC> .o0( It *must* be safe... I've been helloed! )

15:55 <Soul_keeper> XioNYC, yes apparently some people think others aren't worthy of "hello" around here anymore

15:55 * XioNYC waves "hello" at all of the people on the CRT

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15:56 <masterx831> still havent ate

15:56 <masterx831> wanna play basketball

15:56 <CoderForLife> back

15:57 <Soul_keeper> hello CoderForLife

15:57 <CoderForLife> hello Soul_keeper

15:58 <Soul_keeper> CoderForLife, PovAddict talked to the boincstats admins and had me banned from their website

15:58 <PovAddict> I woke up a while ago, 4pm

15:58 <CoderForLife> I'm about to try the new versions of my boinc app on Windows and Linux =)

15:58 <CoderForLife> did you break the rules Soul_keeper?

15:59 <Soul_keeper> CoderForLife, not really

15:59 <CoderForLife> um

15:59 <CoderForLife> that would be a yes or no

15:59 <Soul_keeper> CoderForLife,  I posted a reply here    http://boincstats.com/forum/forum_thread.php?id=1161

15:59 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/7p7bdh> (at boincstats.com)

15:59 <Soul_keeper> the rule wasn't put there to protect against what i'm doing

16:00 <Soul_keeper> 3 sites once a day, is not a web load by any stretch of the imagination

16:00 * CoderForLife reads the thread

16:01 <Soul_keeper> PovAddict pointed me out the first minute I started generating my image,  so I fixed it with a sleep and only 3 id's     but he persisted and got me banned

16:02 <Soul_keeper> now who is this  "willy" character,  is he in this irc channel too ?

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16:02 <CoderForLife> looks to me like the policy isn't applied on a bandwidth basis

16:02 <Soul_keeper> then their site is a load of crap

16:02 <Soul_keeper> fuck them

16:02 <MTughan> Willy? The BS admin?

16:02 <wdsmia> asks Soul_keeper to please watch his or her language Thanks, your friendly channel op.

16:02 <FreeLarry58> Soul_keeper send email to willy maybe?

16:02 <Soul_keeper> this just makes me angry

16:02 <CoderForLife> I'm just reading it...

16:03 <Soul_keeper> they'd have never noticed, had one of our "community" not decided to target me for revenge or whatever his motive was

16:03 <FreeLarry58> i read thru it and it looks like willy may be able to help if requested but you may need to redo the program

16:03 <XioNYC> A lot of the stats sites are crap, but I don't understand the problem... aren't the stats put out by the projects in the first place?  What makes BStats's stats more scrape-worthy, anyway?

16:03 <FreeLarry58> in xml format

16:04 <CoderForLife> looks to me like they don't want anyone screen-scraping, because in aggregate it can bring down the server

16:04 <Soul_keeper> yeah they scrape from all the projects, then ban you for scraping them

16:04 <CoderForLife> right - maybe there's a web service designed to support automated retrievals

16:04 <MTughan> Soul_keeper: You ask Willy for permission to get XML stats from him.

16:05 <Soul_keeper> MTughan, ok i'll approach it from that angle then,  assuming PovAddict hasn't already posted   "[Apr 26 13:02:05]  <Soul_keeper> then their site is a load of crap"    on their forums

16:05 <CoderForLife> that sounds like the right approach to me - ask them how you can get the data in a way that they approve

16:05 <MTughan> Oh, I didn't see you were blocked... Hold on, reading the thread.

16:05 <Soul_keeper> I got taddled on

16:06 <XioNYC> "Piddled" is more accurate

16:06 <PovAddict> Soul_keeper: anything you say here is public anyway

16:07 <Soul_keeper> PovAddict, that's besides the point

16:07 * FreeLarry58 thinks careful - but not all that is said is meant to be passed on to others unless they look for it

16:07 <PovAddict> Willy probably looked at your scripts (since they were visible on your site) so he already knew it was only 3 pages you were scraping, and still banned you

16:07 <Soul_keeper> PovAddict, no he looked at my image generation time, after you gave him the link

16:08 <FreeLarry58> he had to make a policy and stick to it -- thats why there was a caveot about email request

16:08 <CoderForLife> the thread also says there's an XML feed

16:09 <PovAddict> another user pointed out that the scripts were visible, so I *guess* Willy also looked at them; of course I dont know for sure

16:09 <XioNYC> Q: was this a new policy (made in the last 24 hours) or an old policy (decided years ago)?

16:10 <Soul_keeper> "His image files are showing quite recent "last updated" timestamps... I think Willy blocked the wrong IP or something."

16:10 <MTughan> I don't think it was years ago, but it was an in place policy.

16:10 <FreeLarry58> old policy my guess under new enforcement rules

16:10 <Soul_keeper> he banned an ip, but PovAddict took it one further and made sure I was personally banned

16:10 <Soul_keeper> thanks

16:10 <MTughan> No, SK's activity at three pages a day would appear as normal browser traffic.

16:11 * XioNYC starts re-thinking his time-lapse of BOINCstats graphs over the last 15 days...

16:11 <masterx831> chicago bulls are going to double overtime

16:12 <FreeLarry58> oh shoot - time for commute

16:12 <FreeLarry58> &tca

16:12 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: Are you daft?

16:12 <FreeLarry58> &bye

16:12 <Romulus> later ace

16:12 <PovAddict> XioNYC: just follow the CC license for boincstats graph, as mentioned on the footer of every page

16:13 <Soul_keeper> PovAddict, I have no respect for you now.

16:14 <PovAddict> I never really had it for you so we're even

16:14 <MTughan> It helps that the only two people who really look at it (me and SK) both knew the source was BOINCStats though.

16:14 <Soul_keeper> PovAddict, you need to learn a few things about how to treat people. maybe grow up some too.

16:15 <PovAddict> growing up is optional

16:15 <Soul_keeper> keep telling yourself that

16:15 <PovAddict> and you're the wrong person to be giving lessons om how to treat people

16:15 * CoderForLife hopes growing up is optional, still

16:16 <wdsmia> ok children play nice or take it someplace else

16:16 <PovAddict> CFL: growing old isnt optional...

16:16 <MTughan> wdsmia: Play nice? You're the one who kept kicking my bot while I was trying to part it peacefully...

16:16 <Soul_keeper> I wasn't the one that crossed the line here

16:16 <PovAddict> &grab mtughan

16:16 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.

16:16 * XioNYC rings the ^G - will the two fighters *please* go to their respective corners

16:16 <CoderForLife> no line, and no crossing here

16:17 <Soul_keeper> the treatment of others has deteriorated around here, it's a shame.

16:17 <CoderForLife> it's improved in some respects

16:17 <XioNYC> It could be worse.

16:18 <CoderForLife> I had to threaten slander charges one time...

16:18 <CoderForLife> nice.. fun..

16:18 <XioNYC> ...and almost entirely unenforceable, but that's not the point.

16:19 <Soul_keeper> so i just have to deal with this 18yr old punk trying to report me to every website out there for any kind of violations of anything ?  and deal with his smug attitude toward me ?   not like I can punch and give him education, seems reality don't exist here.

16:19 <CoderForLife> I'd have to let the UK court work that out

16:19 <XioNYC> Soul_keeper: On the Internet, Reality is manufactured every 5 minutes.

16:19 <CoderForLife> heh

16:19 <CoderForLife> &dict punk

16:19 <Romulus> CoderForLife: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gcide: Punk \Punk\, n. [Cf. {Spunk}.] 1. Wood so decayed as to be dry, crumbly, and useful for tinder; touchwood. [1913 Webster] 2. A fungus ({Polyporus fomentarius}, etc.) sometimes dried for tinder; agaric. [1913 Webster] 3. An artificial tinder. See {Amadou}, and {Spunk}. [1913 Webster] 4. A prostitute; a strumpet. [Obsoles.] --Shak. [1913 (7 more messages)

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16:20 <CoderForLife> doesn't seem to fit

16:20 <Soul_keeper> as far as i'm concerned he deserves a ban or warning from an op.  but that's just my opinion on the matter

16:20 <CoderForLife> noted

16:21 <Soul_keeper> and I can't find that willy guy's e-mail address

16:21 <MTughan> Soul_keeper: Despite how small, you did break the CC BY-SA license.

16:21 <MTughan> Soul_keeper: Use a PM. http://boincstats.com/forum/forum_pm.php?action=new&userid=1

16:21 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/cgxmru> (at boincstats.com)

16:21 <CoderForLife> back to our regularly scheduled weather programming

16:21 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

16:21 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 90.5F / 32.5C | Humidity: 41% | Pressure: 30.11in / 1019.5hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 10.4mph / 16.7km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows around 60. South winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph...diminishing to around 5 mph after midnight.; Monday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the mid 80s. South winds 15 to 20 mph with (1 more message)

16:22 <Soul_keeper> MTughan, yeah I know, but It was a pittance, nobody would notice unless deliberately pointed out ....   but that's enough of this conversation

16:22 <CoderForLife> &more

16:22 <Romulus> CoderForLife: gusts up to 30 mph.; Monday Night - Partly cloudy. A slight chance of showers and thunderstorms after midnight. Lows in the lower 60s. South winds 15 to 20 mph...diminishing to around 10 mph after midnight. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Special Weather Statement for Hamilton County in effect until 7:00 PM EDT on April 26, 2009;

16:22 <XioNYC> &wx LGA

16:22 <Romulus> XioNYC: Temperature: 83F / 28C | Humidity: 36% | Pressure: 30.18in / 1022hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 20mph / 32km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows around 60. South winds 5 to 10 mph...becoming east after midnight.; Monday - Partly sunny. Highs around 80. East winds 5 to 10 mph... becoming southeast in the afternoon.; Monday Night - Partly cloudy (1 more message)

16:22 <XioNYC> &more

16:22 <Romulus> XioNYC: in the evening...then becoming mostly clear. Lows in the lower 60s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph.;

16:22 <CoderForLife> special weather statement?

16:22 <CoderForLife> "it's too nice outside"?

16:22 <MTughan> Maybe "A slight chance of showers and thunderstorms"?

16:22 <xcamel> must be..

16:23 <XioNYC> I dunno about your neck of the woods, but I'm melting - inside and out.

16:23 <CoderForLife> 90.5F and 41% humidity

16:23 <MTughan> 'lo Jay

16:23 <xcamel> hi

16:23 <CoderForLife> too much shouting outside, I guess

16:24 <Nickuwo> mmm... boinc drama

16:25 <MTughan> Heh. 'lo Nickuwo

16:26 <xcamel> cfl - the big rr outage hit me too...

16:26 <CoderForLife> really - we could see a RR router failure

16:26 <xcamel> 10:44 to 12:56

16:27 <Nickuwo> hey MT

16:27 <CoderForLife> yeah - I had that one too

16:27 <CoderForLife> do they post their maintenance plans somewhere?

16:27 <Nickuwo> good news is, we'll all be dead from swine flu in a couple days. no point in holding grudges

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16:28 <Soul_keeper> lol  email title "IP: 70.166.30.4 The EVIL scraper of 3 pages"

16:29 <CoderForLife> I'd love to know about RoadRunner maintenance plans; maybe I could SCREEN SCRAPE them  =)

16:29 <XioNYC> RR, Time Warner... If only we could do unto them as they have done unto us... >_<

16:29 <Soul_keeper> better be Carefull CoderForLife  someone might report you for saying that here :)

16:29 <CoderForLife> .. NO CARRIER ..

16:29 <XioNYC> SIGHUP!

16:30 <CoderForLife> actually, I would use the update scanner Firefox plugin to let me know when there's maintenance news

16:33 <xcamel> Some idiot was hacking up a lung on the flight back from Cabo - no one here caught anything though.

16:33 <Soul_keeper> swine flew ...

16:33 <xcamel> that was on the 19th

16:34 <CoderForLife> just as long as his eyeballs didn't pop out - that's the sure sign

16:34 <xcamel> The daughter of one of my managers got it - She goes to city college in NYC (IIRC - across from the private school). She was on IV for 2 days. The school was treating her (yeah, right) for mono. Looks like that was a big mistake. They had to go down and pick her up, and took her right to GF hospital where she is now recovering.

16:34 <XioNYC> CCNY in M'hattan?

16:34 <CoderForLife> yeow

16:34 <xcamel> yup

16:35 * XioNYC thought it was in Queens... O_o

16:35 <CoderForLife> nice knowing ya XioNYC

16:35 <Nickuwo> haha

16:35 <Nickuwo> thas not funny

16:35 <Nickuwo> :)

16:35 <XioNYC> All I ask is that my tombstone read "60K cr."

16:35 <xcamel> one of them down there anyway... guess a few from the college went to mx too.

16:35 <CoderForLife> heh

16:36 <CoderForLife> who's going to pick up the tax burden?

16:36 <XioNYC> Anyway, it's more likely I'll croak from heat stroke before I get the flying pig... I mean, swine flu.

16:36 <xcamel> no cases found in BCS yet, thank god..

16:36 <MTughan> BCS?

16:36 <XioNYC> ...but we're working on it !-)

16:36 <xcamel> Baja California Sur

16:36 <MTughan> Ah.

16:37 <xcamel> seems a bunch of canuks took it home with them too...

16:37 <CoderForLife> http://www.flyingpigmarathon.com/

16:37 <Romulus> Title: Cincinnati Flying Pig Marathon (at www.flyingpigmarathon.com)

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16:38 <Soul_keeper> I hate people that live in south america now, is that bad ?

16:38 <xcamel> Don  - you should have seen the MXAF "plane" they were doing touch-n-goes with out of lapaz..

16:38 <MTughan> I know a Freenode IRCop in South America.

16:38 <XioNYC> Mexicans are such a sharing people...

16:38 <XioNYC> (...y que nadie empieze con que soy un racista hijo de p**a porque lo soy :-)

16:39 <Nickuwo> puta?

16:39 <xcamel> si

16:39 <XioNYC> No: "Sí"

16:39 <XioNYC> That little acute accent makes a world of difference.

16:40 <XioNYC> Ex: Si sí, sí.  (If yes, yes)

16:40 <CoderForLife> is the MXAF very large?  I don't often think about the MX military

16:41 <XioNYC> .o0( "No one expects the Spanish Inqui--- The Mexican Influenza!" )

16:41 <xcamel> best we could tell it was an old saab twin turboprop halfa$$ed transport

16:42 <XioNYC> As long as they're not pushing political dissidents out the door at 20,000 ft...

16:44 <xcamel> correction - it's an Antinov AN-32B painted in desert camo

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16:45 <xcamel> in BCS they shoot the cartel members in the knees, and leave them naked in the desert

16:45 <xcamel> no mercy

16:46 <Nickuwo> yikes

16:46 <xcamel> not like "up north"

16:47 <Soul_keeper> seems the admin of  boincstats.com is a dickhead just like povaddict

16:47 <Nickuwo> hah

16:47 <Soul_keeper> i'll just setup my own stats site, I don't need those php noob's junk anyways

16:47 <xcamel> be nice..

16:48 <MTughan> Running a stats site like that takes a lot of resources.

16:48 <Soul_keeper> I said I was sorry, and asked for an acceptable way to do it.   and he basically told me  "now live with the consequences"

16:49 <MTughan> "If you need data from BOINCstats contact me by email. I'm sure we can work something out." PM would also do.

16:49 <Soul_keeper> "Hello, my name is sterling.

16:49 <Soul_keeper> I thought I wasn't downloading enough pages to upset anyone, but since this assumption was wrong can you please set me up with a direct link to daily numbers In whatever way you see as acceptable ?

16:49 <Soul_keeper> thank you."

16:50 <Soul_keeper> "I've explained why I don't allow scraping and I also said I would take measures to prevent it. Be it one page or a thousand, it's my site and I decide whether I allow it or not.

16:50 <Soul_keeper> You were warned not to scrape yet you still went on with it. Now live with the consequence."

16:50 <Soul_keeper> so basically "my way or the highway, fuck you"

16:50 <wdsmia> asks Soul_keeper to please watch his or her language Thanks, your friendly channel op.

16:50 <MTughan> You didn't ask for a direct link.

16:50 <Soul_keeper> yes I did

16:50 <MTughan> You just said you had lowered your load on the server, the accused Willy of being bored.

16:51 <MTughan> You did say you apologize, but that's not asking for help.

16:51 <Soul_keeper> so difficult to speak with these people

16:51 <Soul_keeper> yeah I pm'd him

16:51 <Soul_keeper> e-mailed whatever you call it these days

16:51 <MTughan> I'm just saying what you had typed out. It doesn't matter what your intention was, I don't think Wily is actively watching this channel or its logs.

16:51 <MTughan> Willy*

16:51 <PovAddict> his forum sig says "Please do not PM, IM or email me for support (they will go unread/ignored). Use the forum for support."

16:52 <XioNYC> But this isn't a support issue.

16:52 <MTughan> PovAddict: And his first post in that thread says to email him.

16:52 <Soul_keeper> this makes no sense to me, I'm not gonna go around jumping thru loops and kissing people's ass just to view my boinc stats

16:52 <XioNYC> Very Who's on 1st, What's on 2nd, I Don't Know's on 3rd.

16:52 <xcamel> bork'dstats

16:53 <PovAddict> Soul_keeper: he might unblock your IP (so you can still access the site on your browser) if you stop scraping completely

16:53 <Soul_keeper> I'll grab them directly from the projects and generate my own images, it's better that way

16:53 <Soul_keeper> PovAddict, don't speak to me.

16:53 <MTughan> You could also ask at another stats site. There's plenty around.

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16:54 <MTughan> BOINC seems to know of at least 7 (using MW's home page for stats links).

16:54 <MTughan> s/home/account/

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16:54 <Soul_keeper> excellent

16:55 <Soul_keeper> yeah their paypal link is probably a major factor in getting personal xml files or something ....

16:55 <Soul_keeper> the whole situation seems fishy

16:55 <PovAddict> http://boinc.netsoft-online.com/get_user.php?cpid=948df62e8b208452e1b549e8ba224d0c

16:55 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/ckfdgv> (at boinc.netsoft-online.com)

16:55 <PovAddict> try that

16:55 <Soul_keeper> a contribution would fix everything ...

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16:55 <PovAddict> it's specifically made for people to use for their own purposes

16:56 <MTughan> I'll get my CPID...

16:56 <XioNYC> Sounds more like a bribe to me

16:56 <PovAddict> MTughan 78ceda87fb47eec26091a97619460e7b

16:57 <MTughan> Yeah, that's it.

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16:58 <Soul_keeper> PovAddict, you really screwed me up with this willy guy,  he's posting irc conversation logs and everything in his PM's

16:59 <PovAddict> other than what I posted on the forum?

16:59 <Soul_keeper> exactely that

16:59 <Soul_keeper> saying you warned me so he fixed the problem

16:59 <XioNYC> O_O

16:59 <Soul_keeper> so i'm not allowed to use boincstats every again

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17:00 <PovAddict> well yes, I let you know that BOINCStats didn't allow scraping and you did it anyway

17:00 <Soul_keeper> well good for you

17:01 <PovAddict> but anyway, as the owner of the site, Willy can block people from using it without even giving a reason

17:01 <Soul_keeper> fuck you and willy

17:01 <wdsmia> asks Soul_keeper to please watch his or her language Thanks, your friendly channel op.

17:01 <PovAddict> it's his site, he can do whatever he wants with it

17:02 <Soul_keeper> yes including shuving it up his ass.    thanks for the info

17:02 <Soul_keeper> i'll do my own stats charts from now on, nothing i need there.

17:04 <Soul_keeper> I don't have the energy to deal with you kids and your little php websites, you can keep your positions of authority and leave me out of the social orgy

17:04 <XioNYC> .o0( Thank you, oh Root, for proving once again that to be stupid is human, but to that only the Internet empowers us to let the shit splatter wildly in mere minutes... )

17:04 <wdsmia> asks XioNYC to please watch his or her language Thanks, your friendly channel op.

17:04 <XioNYC> Oh, f**k I said s**t.

17:05 <XioNYC> Oh, s**t I said f**k.

17:05 <XioNYC> C'mon - I'm tame by the Internet's standards!

17:05 <MTughan> Recursion!

17:06 <XioNYC> Hell!  I even write in complete sentences, know where to put the apostrophe (or not) when using "it's" and "its", and capitalize when appropriate!

17:06 <PovAddict> &learn CoderForLife's CPID as db27ace9d75b314b50b450baa4ad0c21

17:06 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.

17:06 * Soul_keeper starts pointing at people and yelling "FUCK YOU!" "FUCK YOU!" "FUCK YOU!"

17:06 * XioNYC is a New Yorker and points one right back at 'ya.

17:06 <Nickuwo> awesome! the lame script doesn't catch actions!

17:06 <PovAddict> Nickuwo: or it doesn't catch uppercase

17:07 <Nickuwo> or both?

17:07 <PovAddict> &learn Rookie_69's CPID as 4f4f208189e2a267e9ada27bca19c053

17:07 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.

17:07 * MTughan is testing "fuck"

17:07 <xcamel> is this necessary?

17:07 <XioNYC> That's bad programming.  Let's exploit it!

17:07 <MTughan> It's actions.

17:07 <Nickuwo> lol

17:07 <XioNYC> Well, xcamel, it's necessary for the survival of the Human Race.

17:07 <MTughan> Or maybe words... I'd test again, but one word is usually enough for me.

17:07 <MTughan> It's possible that it wasn't matched because it was preceeded by a quote.

17:07 <xcamel> see the little "op" thingy on my /nick ??

17:08 <XioNYC> No... I see a bunch of garbled UTF-8 chars.

17:08 <Nickuwo> hehe

17:08 * xcamel 's view is becoming dim...

17:08 <XioNYC> Oh... no wait... there it is...

17:09 <Nickuwo> angry republican on the loose, close up shop boys...

17:09 <XioNYC> Hmm... I never notices that before.

17:09 <XioNYC> ...noticed...

17:09 <xcamel> conservative, not "republican"

17:09 <Nickuwo> ahh, my bad

17:10 <Nickuwo> it's a good time to distance yourself from that label :)

17:10 <XioNYC> Here's the real question for separating the varieties of conservatism (and how I figure out if there's any point talking to someone)...

17:10 <XioNYC> Place the following words in order of importance:

17:11 <XioNYC> Democracy, Capitalism, Religion

17:11 <PovAddict> ah cool, we finish the scraping flamewar and we start politics :)

17:11 * PovAddict grabs popcorn

17:11 <Nickuwo> natural segue

17:11 * XioNYC mutters something about "un gran paso para delante, y nos fuimos todos al precipicio"

17:11 <PovAddict> lol

17:12 <MTughan> Translation?

17:12 <XioNYC> "We stand at the edge of a great precipie.  Today, we have taken a great step forward... we fell off the cliff"

17:13 <MTughan> lol

17:13 <PovAddict> MTughan: do you have facebook?

17:13 <MTughan> Yes.

17:13 <Nickuwo> lets say my project had 458 million WU's... would anybody participate?

17:13 <PovAddict> http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=245786&id=748730132 seems someone uploaded pics of Asia@Home event there

17:13 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/c7r4j6> (at www.facebook.com)

17:13 <MTughan> Asia@home?

17:14 <XioNYC> It's a big home

17:15 <XioNYC> Nickuwo: To dole out to the crunchers, or accumulated by a team?

17:15 <Nickuwo> dole out

17:15 <Soul_keeper> facebook is for homo's

17:15 <Nickuwo> hah

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17:16 <Nickuwo> SK hatin life right now

17:16 <XioNYC> Nickuwo: As long as you've got every major platform covered (read: screw Wintel/x86), sure.

17:16 <Nickuwo> i wonder how long these wus take...

17:19 * XioNYC throttles back the CPU usage...

17:20 * CoderForLife stays on target with his Coding while the chat room perodically erupts in flames

17:20 <Nickuwo> liar

17:20 * XioNYC shouts "FIRE!" in a crowded channel

17:21 <CoderForLife> heh

17:21 <XioNYC> But say fu‌ck just once...

17:21 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o wdsmia

17:21 <XioNYC> Okay

17:22 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o CoderForLife

17:22 <XioNYC> I apologize!

17:22 <XioNYC> I apologize!

17:22 <XioNYC> I apologize!

17:22 <Nickuwo> haha

17:22 <XioNYC> I'll NEVER do that again!

17:23 * CoderForLife goes back to signing the Release version of his Windows Code, but leaves the safety off

17:24 <XioNYC> I'm outta here for a while... gimmie a holler when the flames erupt again.

17:24 *** XioNYC is now known as xionyc

17:28 * PovAddict lights a match and sets xionyc on fire

17:28 <PovAddict> there, flames

17:28 <xionyc> YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHH!!!!

17:29 <xionyc> FIIIIIRRRREEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!

17:30 * xionyc is burnt like a botched CD

17:32 <Soul_keeper> boincstats is a fag site, i'm done with them

17:33 <Soul_keeper> a bunch of twittering myspace homo's

17:34 <MTughan> Not Twitter. We use the shoutbox.

17:34 <xionyc> (psst!  "homos" without apostrophe... it's not a possessive, it's a plural)

17:34 <masterx831> brb

17:34 <masterx831> lol

17:35 <masterx831> lmao

17:35 <masterx831> i love you all

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17:35 <Soul_keeper> nobody with hair on their nuts is involved in maintaining that site

17:35 <PovAddict> ... wtf

17:35 <Nickuwo> lol

17:35 * xionyc cringes at the use of "it's" when it should be "its"

17:35 * PovAddict cringes at the same

17:35 <xionyc> That's it... I'm outta here - you're all driving me insane!

17:35 <xionyc> (But in a good way)

17:35 <xionyc> &nn

17:35 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

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17:36 <PovAddict> like zombie67's quit mesage used to say "I'm sick of this room and everyone on it"?

17:36 <Nickuwo> i love that quote

17:37 <MTughan> PovAddict: What about AMcBain's quit message?

17:37 <PovAddict> I forget

17:37 <Soul_keeper> nothing constructive happens here

17:46 <CoderForLife> I have both Windows and Linux CPUs running my app

17:46 <CoderForLife> \o/

17:46 <MTughan> And giving the same answers?

17:47 <CoderForLife> we'll see later

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17:48 <CoderForLife> my standalone tests gave the same results

17:48 <CoderForLife> so - I'm going to go get some din-din for the family

17:48 <Soul_keeper> PovAddict, do your best to get me banned for life from that site, non of you bastards have hair on your nuts I want nothing to do with you

17:49 <CoderForLife> I'll bbiab

17:52 <PovAddict> http://www.faqs.org/docs/artu/ch03s02.html#nt_contrast interesting

17:52 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5d2hu> (at www.faqs.org)

17:59 <Soul_keeper> PovAddict, I hope you get hit by a truck and die

17:59 <PovAddict> I thought you had stopped talking to me alreayd

18:00 <Soul_keeper> shows how wrong you are. dumb bastard

18:01 <PovAddict> plonk

18:15 <Soul_keeper> PovAddict, did you wear a dress to church today ?

18:21 <Soul_keeper> lol I just owned you and your willy buddy, I won't be reading your stupid

18:21 <Soul_keeper> forum thread anymore.

18:22 <Soul_keeper> wouldn't surprise me if you crooked bastards looks up my individual account passwords and destroyed my projects pages either

18:31 <Soul_keeper> interesting that their admin would know I hadn't made a donation within 2mins of me posting,  this shows me it was a major factor in banning me "indefinately"

18:33 <Soul_keeper> PovAddict, i'm better than you'll ever be.

18:33 <Soul_keeper> btw I love america

18:33 <Soul_keeper> still

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18:34 * Tank_Master notes someone is still pissed and desides to just lerk in the background

18:35 <PovAddict> hmm?

18:35 <PovAddict> I have had Soul_keeper on ignore since his "dumb bastard" message - did he keep ranting?

18:35 <Soul_keeper> excellent

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18:40 <Youareanidiot> PovAddict: I said I still LOVE AMERICA

18:41 <PovAddict> who cares

18:41 <PovAddict> also, america is a continent and I'm in it

18:41 <Youareanidiot> obviousely you do

18:41 <Youareanidiot> that's where your hate seems to come from

18:41 <Youareanidiot> anyways you're a dumb ass kid bye.

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18:41 <PovAddict> obviously I don't, that's why I ignored you; do you want attention or why are you trying to get around my ignoring?

18:42 <Soul_keeper> lol

18:42 <Tank_Master> america is not a continent

18:42 <Soul_keeper> you lose

18:42 <PovAddict> ok it's two

18:42 <Tank_Master> north america, cenertal america, and south america are

18:43 <Soul_keeper> well whatever I said to him in the past made him label me "enemy for life" and set out to destroy me

18:43 <Soul_keeper> people like him should be shot

18:43 <PovAddict> &urlquote (word)

18:43 <Romulus> PovAddict: %28word%29

18:44 <PovAddict> Tank_Master: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_%28word%29#Different_meanings

18:44 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/42dy93> (at en.wikipedia.org)

18:46 <Soul_keeper> :)

18:46 <Soul_keeper> Tank_Master, tell PovAddict anytime he wants to speak to a real man i'll be waiting in my front yard

18:47 <Tank_Master> real men dont wait for other man to arrive in their year

18:48 <Tank_Master> they ship a cat's head at warning

18:48 <Tank_Master> :D

18:48 <Soul_keeper> heh

18:49 <Soul_keeper> i'm prolly the only one in here that has turned irc conversations into real knife/gun fights ...

18:49 <Tank_Master> o0

18:50 <Soul_keeper> it's not hard to find out where I live if you wanna settle something

18:56 <CoderForLife> back

18:57 * CoderForLife reads

18:58 <CoderForLife> hmm

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19:04 <Tank_Master> wb

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19:17 <KathrynM> It's Monday

19:17 <KathrynM> at least the sun is shining

19:18 <CoderForLife> it's been a beautiful day here

19:18 <CoderForLife> I hopefully didn't get too much sun on top of my head while doing things outside

19:18 <Soul_keeper> &weather 91977

19:18 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 66.0F / 18.9C | Humidity: 51% | Pressure: 29.41in / 995.8hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 8.3mph / 13.4km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening...becoming mostly cloudy. Areas of fog overnight. Lows 43 to 53. Winds west 15 mph in the evening becoming light.; Monday - Mostly cloudy in the morning...becoming mostly sunny. (1 more message)

19:18 <CoderForLife> it's a particular problem us older Coders have

19:19 <KathrynM> So that's what I have to look forward to?

19:19 <PovAddict> CoderForLife: http://www.thinkgeek.com/7029

19:19 <Romulus> Title: ThinkGeek :: Keep out of Direct Sunlight (at www.thinkgeek.com)

19:19 <KathrynM> oh wait, I'm not a Coder.  I'm just a coder.

19:19 <KathrynM> &wx ulsan

19:19 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 52°F / 11°C | Humidity: 82% | Pressure: 29.89in / 1012hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h | Updated: 8:00 AM KST; Unknown. High:53 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:44 F.; Chance of Rain. High:68 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:46 F.; Clear. High:78 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:51 F.;

19:20 <CoderForLife> well, I would not recommend my hairstyle

19:20 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

19:20 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 64.1F / 17.8C | Humidity: 83% | Pressure: 29.74in / 1007.0hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 6.0mph / 9.7km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Thunderstorms early in the evening...then widespread thunderstorms after midnight. Breezy. Some thunderstorms may be severe with damaging wind and large hail...then some thunderstorms may produce heavy rainfall (2 more messages)

19:20 <wdsmia> &more

19:20 <Romulus> wdsmia: after midnight. Low in the upper 40s. South wind 15 to 25 mph shifting to the northwest 10 to 15 mph after midnight. Gusts up to 35 mph. Chance of thunderstorms near 100 percent.; Monday - Mostly cloudy. A chance of thunderstorms in the morning... then a chance of showers in the afternoon. Cooler. Some thunderstorms may produce heavy rainfall in the morning. High in the upper 50s. Northwest (1 more message)

19:20 <wdsmia> &more

19:20 <Romulus> wdsmia: wind 10 to 15 mph. Chance of precipitation 50 percent.; Monday Night - Partly cloudy. Low around 40. Northwest wind 10 to 15 mph.; Tornado Watch for Polk County in effect until 12:00 AM CDT on April 27, 2009; Flood Warning for Polk County in effect until 4:20 AM CDT on April 30, 2009; Areal Flood Advisory, Flash Flood Watch for Polk County in effect until 10:00 AM CDT on April 27, 2009;

19:22 <PovAddict> heh, cool

19:22 <PovAddict> "100% cotton heavyweight t-shirt in black with "Schrödinger's Cat is Dead" on the front and "Schrödinger's Cat is Not Dead" on the back."

19:22 * KathrynM likes

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19:22 <PovAddict> another "with the phrase 'resistance is futile' written in white front and center. Underneath (in parenthesis) it says 'if < 1 ohm'"

19:23 <masterx831> hey all

19:23 * KathrynM groans

19:24 <masterx831> KathrynM hey

19:24 <KathrynM> hello masterx831

19:24 <KathrynM> that groan wasn't aimed at you

19:25 <masterx831> i know it's just boring how channel dies

19:25 <KathrynM> "the worst was when he leapt on the edge of the bathtub while I was in it, and slipped in. A fully grown tomcat, flailing around with claws extended in the vicinity of my fleshier parts was not an experience I wish to repeat."

19:25 <KathrynM> lol

19:26 * masterx831 thinks at what KathrynM just stated

19:26 <masterx831> lol

19:27 <KathrynM> reading about cat antics

19:27 <KathrynM> as mine tries to type on the keyboard

19:27 <PovAddict> KathrynM: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2x8yn4Jn-Yc

19:27 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Cat Regrets Entering Bath (at www.youtube.com)

19:27 <KathrynM> gah, no sound for me yet

19:28 <KathrynM> must get that working soon

19:28 <masterx831> shiat i'm on non graphic

19:28 <PovAddict> look at how DESPERATELY he tries to get out

19:28 <KathrynM> lol

19:29 <masterx831> hmMm.. let me take a wild guess you admire cats right?

19:29 <PovAddict> I searched Google for "bathtub baby cat" to find that video

19:29 <masterx831> by the way send it to my youtube its miguelbaezjr

19:29 <PovAddict> found a disturbing result in the list

19:30 <masterx831> i aint running X yet

19:30 <PovAddict> yahoo answers

19:30 <PovAddict> "I have a baby shark in my bathtub and it ate my cat. What should i do?"

19:30 <masterx831> lol

19:30 <masterx831> baby shark

19:30 <masterx831> hoe fdid you get in the bathtub

19:30 <PovAddict> he has the baby shark as a pet

19:33 <masterx831> man lol i'll get a snake

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19:33 <masterx831> feed it good and get it biger like a anda conda

19:34 <masterx831> who fucks with me ge tmy sanke to bite him

19:34 <wdsmia> asks masterx831 to please watch his or her language Thanks, your friendly channel op.

19:34 <masterx831> oosp

19:34 <masterx831> sorry

19:34 <KathrynM> durn cat.  I turn my back for 3 seconds and she's up her lapping the milk out of my cereal

19:35 <masterx831> eww

19:36 <KathrynM> I work with kids all day, that's nothing compared to them

19:36 <masterx831> lol its a coincidence to see a girl on irc

19:37 <masterx831> i only talked to 6 girls out of 15 yrs

19:37 <Tank_Master> KM!

19:37 <Tank_Master> wazz up?

19:37 <KathrynM> not much

19:37 <masterx831> Tank_Master hey

19:37 <KathrynM> eating breakfast before getting ready for work

19:37 *** masterx831 is now known as MasterX831

19:38 <KathrynM> yeah, I'm not your typical girl

19:38 <Tank_Master> LOL

19:38 <MasterX831> KathrynM i mean 6 that were using IRC

19:38 <KathrynM> :)

19:39 <MasterX831> lol 90% are males here

19:39 <CoderForLife> &seen BiteAbleKat

19:39 <Romulus> CoderForLife: BiteAbleKat was last seen in #boinc 36 weeks, 6 days, 19 hours, 34 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <BiteAbleKat> how goes it quail

19:39 <CoderForLife> &seen benje

19:39 <Romulus> CoderForLife: benje was last seen in #boinc 32 weeks, 3 days, 4 hours, 15 minutes, and 56 seconds ago: <benje> that's not the same thing :/

19:39 <CoderForLife> &seen Spit_theDog

19:39 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Spit_theDog was last seen in #boinc 1 year, 49 weeks, 3 days, 13 hours, 10 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <Spit_theDog> Bye for now all :)

19:39 <MasterX831> wow!

19:39 <KathrynM> almost 2 years for spit

19:39 <MasterX831> 1 yrs

19:39 <CoderForLife> sadly

19:39 <KathrynM> now is a long time

19:39 <MasterX831> lol

19:39 <MasterX831> isnt IRC fun

19:40 <MasterX831> :-S

19:40 <MasterX831> why is your name pink

19:40 <MasterX831> maybe its my BitchX client

19:41 <MasterX831> lmao

19:42 * MasterX831 Action! Act 1 Scene 1 Soul_keeper verbal assualt on PovAddict

19:43 <PovAddict> again?

19:43 <Tank_Master> please no

19:44 <MasterX831> what happen? is it something i missed?

19:49 * PovAddict restarts his IRC client to make sure prefs are saved

19:49 <PovAddict> seems to only save settings on exit, but I rarely close it manually, most "exits" are because of crashes, and then settings don't get saved

19:49 <Soul_keeper> am i the only that don't care about his irc prefs ? :)

19:50 <Nickuwo> wheres the log of this chan again?

19:50 <PovAddict> so if it crashes / X crashes / computer crashes / UPS doesn't behave, for example ignore list would be empty again

19:50 <PovAddict> Nickuwo: see channel topic :)

19:51 <PovAddict> http://lledgerock.com/boinc_logs

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19:53 <Nickuwo> damn irc client hiding topics from me

19:55 <Tank_Master> bummer

19:57 <Nickuwo> hmm, by my calculations, if ramsey starts again with the same number of hosts as it left off with, it'll take 58 years to do all the work I'm trying to do :)

19:58 <PovAddict> you need to optimize then

19:58 <Nickuwo> really?

19:58 <Nickuwo> just fucking with ya POV

19:58 <wdsmia> asks Nickuwo to please watch his or her language Thanks, your friendly channel op.

19:58 <wdsmia> increase credit it will get done in 1/4 of the time

19:58 <Nickuwo> hmm

19:58 <Nickuwo> thats a good idea

19:59 <PovAddict> someone suggested making client scheduler debts work in terms of credits instead of CPU time

20:00 <PovAddict> that way, if a server admin increases credits, users will crunch more, but clients left on their own will crunch less, so the admin has to balance

20:00 <Nickuwo> when it asks for more work, it'll ask for some x credits worth?

20:00 <PovAddict> not really

20:01 <PovAddict> I don't know how it works post 6.4, but in 6.2 and earlier, it works like this

20:01 <PovAddict> when you crunch for a project, it accumulates "debt" (CPU time owed to other projects), and debt of other projects go down; if debt for a project is negative, work isn't fetched from it

20:02 <PovAddict> that way, if a project has tight deadlines and makes your client crunch its workunits first (to meet deadline), then it won't crunch for that project for a while to "compensate"

20:02 <Nickuwo> ah ic

20:02 <PovAddict> otherwise a project with tight deadlines would get monopoly

20:02 <PovAddict> client gets work, it has tight deadline so it makes it high priority, once it's done it gets more work which gets in high priority again... and other projects never get any CPU time

20:03 <Nickuwo> so this will "penalize" in a sense, projects with higher than average credit rates?

20:03 <PovAddict> yes, this idea makes the debt count in terms of credits instead of CPU time seconds

20:03 <Nickuwo> interesting

20:03 <PovAddict> so if a project has very high credits, it would get negative debt faster

20:04 <Nickuwo> right

20:04 <wdsmia> sounds to me like we will give you one can of food to feed you family... if you have too many kids they will die off then things will be fair again :P

20:04 <PovAddict> wdsmia: most real world analogies fail

20:04 <Tank_Master> when a project with less credits would get more cpou share?

20:04 <PovAddict> especially with money

20:04 <Tank_Master> so*

20:05 <PovAddict> Tank_Master: if the BOINC client is left on its own, yes... but note this was just an idea, it has never been implemented

20:05 <Tank_Master> good

20:05 <PovAddict> thing is, a project with less credits would more CPU share but users are less motivated to run it, and vice-versa

20:05 <Soul_keeper> http://sterlingdesktops.com/boincrace/test2.png   I win :)

20:05 <Tank_Master> last thing we need is for a project to hand out 0 credits just so it can have all the CPU :P

20:05 <PovAddict> so the project has to keep it balanced

20:05 <PovAddict> Tank_Master: if they did that, users would detach :)

20:05 <CoderForLife> bbiab

20:05 <PovAddict> so project loses

20:06 <PovAddict> if they give a million credits per second, the client would quickly stop getting work, so the project loses

20:06 <PovAddict> natural motivation for admins to give "fair" credits; whatever "fair" means

20:06 <Tank_Master> those paying attention would detach, sure

20:07 <Nickuwo> can't you just connect to just one project - the one with high credit rates?

20:07 <PovAddict> Nickuwo: nobody said the idea was perfect :)

20:08 <Nickuwo> right on

20:10 <Nickuwo> time for a beer

20:11 * Nickuwo works hard for no money

20:12 <Nickuwo> someone hire me, dammit

20:33 <Nickuwo> a "host" is just an ip correct? that is, my quad core is one host, not four, right?

20:33 <Nickuwo> or not even an ip, just a machine

20:33 * CoderForLife hires himself to take out the trash

20:33 <CoderForLife> bbiab

20:33 <KathrynM> off to the germ factory

20:34 <KathrynM> have fun folks

20:34 <Nickuwo> l8r!

20:34 <CoderForLife> tc

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20:48 <PovAddict> the most correct explanation I can give is: a host is a particular installation of the BOINC client on a computer

20:49 <PovAddict> (a dual-boot computer would appear as two separate hosts, for the BOINC client on both operating systems)

20:49 <PovAddict> (each has its own WU queue after all)

20:49 <Nickuwo> ok

21:15 <Tank_Master> is it a bad omen when the birsd are flying south this time of the year?

21:15 <Tank_Master> howdy Nickuwo

21:15 <Nickuwo> hey Tank

21:22 <Tank_Master> ill brb

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21:32 <CoderForLife> gn boinclanders

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22:18 <Soul_keeper> [PLAYING] [00:24:635] 16_-_Ten_Feet_Tall_And_Bulletproof

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23:00 <Soul_keeper> :)

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