IRC logs of #boinc for Monday, 2009-04-27

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00:07 <PovAddict> I tried cross-compiling sillyprime for Windows

00:07 <PovAddict> but it's crashing, and there is no easy way to debug it from inside Linux

00:11 <zombie67> hrm

00:12 <PovAddict> I can test Windows apps once I compile them (using wine)

00:12 <PovAddict> but winedbg sucks

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00:45 <MasterX831> hey all

00:45 <MasterX831> remember me

00:45 <MasterX831> shiat it's always quiet in here

00:46 <MasterX831> MTughan

00:46 <MasterX831> MTughan come in #linuxsociety have fun with us and play some wesnoth

00:46 <MasterX831> &weather 32817

00:46 <Romulus> MasterX831: Temperature: 68.5F / 20.3C | Humidity: 75% | Pressure: 30.32in / 1026.6hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 4.0mph / 6.4km/h ; Overnight - Clear. Lows in the lower 60s. East winds 5 mph.; Monday - Partly sunny. Highs in the mid 80s. East winds 10 to 15 mph.; Monday Night - Mostly clear. Lows in the mid 60s. East winds 10 to 15 mph decreasing to 5 to 10 (1 more message)

00:46 <MasterX831> wtf 68 degrees?

00:47 <MasterX831> in florida

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01:03 <jasong> If a whitepaper is read on a Kindle, shouldn't it be called an off-whitepaper? ;)

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01:32 <Tank_Master> howdy jasong

01:40 <quail> &math convert 50 mm in

01:40 <Romulus> quail: 1.96850393701

01:55 <zombie67> TM!

02:00 <Tank_Master> hey

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02:25 <Tank_Master> howdy [B^S]renemayer

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02:30 <[B^S]renemayer> hey Tank_Master you just bsod'ed me

03:30 <zombie67> "You think this job is easy?  Not only do I have to wade through politics, life and popular culture, I have to have an opinion.  You can go to the movies and fall asleep-- not this consumer!" -- Ian Shoales

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03:57 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

03:57 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 65.8F / 18.8C | Humidity: 71% | Pressure: 30.13in / 1020.2hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 8.1mph / 13.0km/h ; Overnight - Mostly clear. Lows around 60. South winds around 5 mph.; Monday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the lower 80s. South winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph.; Monday Night - Partly cloudy. A chance of showers and (1 more message)

03:57 <CoderForLife> &more

03:57 <Romulus> CoderForLife: thunderstorms after midnight. Lows in the lower 60s. South winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph...diminishing to 5 to 10 mph after midnight. Chance of rain 40 percent.;

04:04 <CoderForLife> brb  breakfast

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04:50 <FreeLarry58> morn all - got a question on fedora 8 root user

04:51 <FreeLarry58> processes in root call makewhatis ? any one know what it does?

04:52 <FreeLarry58> cant ever recall seeing it there before

04:52 <FreeLarry58> &google makewhatis

04:52 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: Search took 0.12 seconds: makewhatis - Linux Command - Unix Command: <>; Mac OS X Manual Page For makewhatis .local(8): <>; apropos, whatis and makewhatis: <>; Fedora: makewhatis - out of (2 more messages)

04:52 <FreeLarry58> &more

04:52 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: nowhere: <>; makewhatis (1) - create whatis database: <>; makewhatis: <>; man makewhatis .local(8): <>; netbsd-help: Re: how to make whatis lists (1 more message)

04:56 <FreeLarry58> humm wonder if its because i didn't let sendmail start on last bootup

05:01 <FreeLarry58> root      39  19 86248 2472 1020 S    1  0.1   0:03.94 makewhatis

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05:13 <CoderForLife> morning FreeLarry58

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05:29 <CoderForLife> time to quit playing with boinc and get ready for w@#% - laterz

06:27 <kathryn_> can someone explain why .75 km sounds like a greater distance than 750 m?

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06:27 <ilyak> Does it?

06:28 <KathrynM> to me it does.

06:28 <KathrynM> then again, I'm probably just weird

06:30 <hawmps> 'mornin

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06:36 <KathrynM> mornin hawmps

06:45 <hawmps> 'lo Kat

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07:39 <CoderForLife> did wdsmia survive the evening?

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08:51 <CoderForLife> I checked with an acquaintence in the general Kansas City area (Lenexa) and he had wind and rain, saying that most of the problems were north and west of KC

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10:08 <Soul_keeper> Good Morning

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10:27 <Tank_Master> awhh man, DD@H is outa work... :(

10:30 <Tank_Master> holy crap I had a lot of errored WUs

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12:21 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

12:21 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 83.2F / 28.4C | Humidity: 54% | Pressure: 30.20in / 1022.6hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 15.0mph / 24.1km/h ; Today - Sunny. Highs in the mid 80s. Southwest winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. A chance of showers and thunderstorms after midnight. Lows in the lower 60s. South winds 10 to 15 (2 more messages)

12:21 <CoderForLife> &more

12:21 <Romulus> CoderForLife: mph. Gusts up to 30 mph in the evening. Chance of rain 40 percent.; Tuesday - Showers with a chance of thunderstorms. Cooler with highs in the lower 70s. Southwest winds around 10 mph. Chance of rain 90 percent.; Special Weather Statement for Hamilton County in effect until 8:00 PM EDT on April 27, 2009; Fire Weather Warning for Hamilton County in effect until 9:00 PM EDT on April 27, (1 more message)

12:22 <CoderForLife> huh?

12:22 <CoderForLife> &more

12:22 <Romulus> CoderForLife: 2009;

12:23 <Soul_keeper> hello CoderForLife

12:24 <CoderForLife> hello Soul_keeper

12:25 <CoderForLife> we have a fire warning

12:25 <CoderForLife> seems like it's too wet for that

12:25 <Soul_keeper> heh

12:25 <CoderForLife> we can have 9 months of drought, and not have that

12:26 <Soul_keeper> here they fine us if we water our yard more than twice a week

12:26 <CoderForLife> I've never had a lawn like I have now

12:27 <Soul_keeper> strtok()  is always a headache, i swear

12:27 <CoderForLife> not so much for me, I use it alot

12:27 <Soul_keeper> if I call it on a 2nd set of data it wants to segfault

12:29 <Soul_keeper> token = strtok(linestring, search);  token = strtok(NULL, search);    lastcoord = atof(token);   works fine in the first while loop,  but then another and it segfaults

12:29 <Soul_keeper> ever have that problem ?

12:31 <Soul_keeper> i'll just have to rewrite my 500 line program, perhaps replace strtok with a function containing 15 or so if's

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12:42 <Soul_keeper> all that goes thru my head when I code are the voices of all the people on irc over the years that told me "you're nothing" "i'm better than you" "you can't do anything noob"  "you'll never amount to nothing!!"

13:02 <hawmps> &wx 12020

13:02 <Romulus> hawmps: Temperature: 79.6F / 26.4C | Humidity: 41% | Pressure: 30.01in / 1016.1hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 5.0mph / 8.0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Warmer with the high in the mid 80s. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Not as cool with the low in the lower 60s. South winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tuesday - Mostly sunny. A chance of (1 more message)

13:02 <hawmps> &more

13:02 <Romulus> hawmps: showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. The high in the upper 80s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph...becoming west in the afternoon. Chance of rain 40 percent.;

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13:24 <CoderForLife> did you go to the same school I did, Soul_keeper?

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13:38 <Soul_keeper> CoderForLife, lol

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13:40 <yoyo[RKN]> wb master

13:40 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx sxf

13:40 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 72°F / 22°C | Humidity: 38% | Pressure: 29.65in / 1004hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h | Updated: 7:20 PM CEST; Clear. High:75 F.; Partly Cloudy. Low:55 F.; Scattered Clouds. High:71 F.; Clear. Low:51 F.; Chance of Rain. High:64 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:48 F.;

13:41 * CoderForLife descends back into the darkness of w@#%

13:42 <Soul_keeper> CoderForLife, wrote me a replacement header for strtok()  seems to be doing the job :)

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13:50 <XioNYC> Nice to see the place hasn't burnt down to the ground since I was last here... :-)  Hello, all!

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14:32 <dp> is there any decent web-based software like BoincView, so that I can see my machines status remotely?

14:34 <dp> also, is there any particular reason why so few projects support BSD?

14:35 <PovAddict> no, there is no web-based control I know of

14:36 * yoyo[RKN] had problems to get the wrapper running properly on BSD

14:37 <PovAddict> yoyo[RKN]: that's why I think wrapper is more trouble than it's worth :)

14:37 <yoyo[RKN]> hmm it runs now on different platforms

14:38 <yoyo[RKN]> and I do not have sources of the legacy apps

14:38 <PovAddict> ecm is open source

14:39 <yoyo[RKN]> yes, this is the only one

14:40 <dp> I need to rebuild the FreeNAS box at home, since it's running on a dual-proc dual-core box

14:40 <dp> that can't run any boinc

14:45 <PovAddict> &boincerr -136

14:45 <Romulus> PovAddict: no database rows found in lookup/enumerate

14:50 <dp> hrm.  I can't believe that there's no web-based software to manage boinc

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14:55 <PovAddict> I think there is one

14:55 <PovAddict> but I don't know about it :)

14:56 <PovAddict> I wrote myself a script that shows my running WUs in an image

14:56 <PovAddict>

14:57 <Nickuwo> gridrepublic?

15:04 <dp> PovAddict: cool

15:05 <dp> I'm not even concerned as much about "controlling" the boxes as I am seeing their status

15:11 <dp> maybe I could set up screenshots and upload them to gallery2 every few minutes

15:11 <dp> that'd be cool :)

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15:20 <PovAddict> dp: make a CGI script that runs boinccmd --get_state

15:20 <PovAddict> horribly user-unfriendly but gets you the information :)

15:21 <dp> PovAddict: multiple machines though

15:22 <PovAddict> then make it run boinccmd --host --passwd 123456 --get_state

15:22 <dp> wouldn't it be just as easy to then connect directly to the port and read out the information?

15:23 <PovAddict> you wouldn't want to open that port to the outside Internets

15:23 <dp> it wouldn't be. I'd just be accessing those ports through a PHP script

15:23 <PovAddict> ah, well, that's what I do in my forum sig script ^

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15:47 <Soul_keeper> MTughan, you here ?

15:47 <Soul_keeper> &seen MTughan

15:47 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: MTughan was last seen in #boinc 22 hours and 57 seconds ago: <MTughan> And giving the same answers?

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16:35 <Soul_keeper> [PLAYING] [00:28:491] A Country Boy Can Survive .:. Hank Williams, Jr. .:. Greatest Hits, Vol. 1 [Curb] .:. Track 9

16:39 <Soul_keeper>

16:39 <Romulus> <> (at

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16:59 <Soul_keeper>

16:59 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Peter Schiff Speech at Audit the FED Rally 25 Apr-09 go to for The Full Version (at

17:02 <xcamel> 'lo

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17:17 <dp> trying to run a boinc client on a FreeBSD machine.  when I do, boinc dies with gstate.init() failed: -1.  any ideas?

17:18 <PovAddict> are you sure it's not already running?

17:18 <dp> fairly, but let me confirm

17:19 <dp> don't see it in ps auxw | grep boinc

17:19 <dp> wait

17:19 <dp> "gstate.ini() failed: -1 means your computer couldn't bind the GUI to BOINC.exe;"

17:20 <PovAddict> I have the code in front of me; -1 may mean a dozen different things

17:20 <dp> oh, ok

17:20 <PovAddict> where did you find that explanation? (which, in a way, doesn't even make sense)

17:20 <dp> but no, it's not running already

17:20 <dp>

17:20 <Romulus> <> (at

17:21 <dp> second post

17:21 <PovAddict> lol, BOINC 4.19

17:21 <PovAddict> don't take information from 3-year-old forum posts...

17:21 <dp> wasn't paying attention to dates

17:22 <dp> that's the only result for gstate.init() failed -1

17:22 <PovAddict> there are only two places where init() actually checks for errors and returns something

17:24 <dp> it won't run benchmarks either

17:24 <PovAddict> don't use the run benchmarks / attach project / etc switches on the client itself

17:24 * PovAddict is still wishing they were removed

17:24 <dp> hard not to when I'm using a command line cline

17:24 <dp> client

17:25 <PovAddict> boinccmd is for that

17:25 <dp> actually

17:25 <PovAddict> once you get the client to actually start

17:25 <dp> it let me start the client to attach to an Account Manager

17:25 <dp> maybe it's not liking something from that

17:25 <PovAddict> it's a typical mistake... user starts client, then uses boinc -attach_project, and it doesn't work, because that tries to start the client again

17:26 <PovAddict> boinccmd is to control a running client

17:27 <PovAddict> with an error message as useless as "failed: -1", you'd have to run the client under a debugger to see where it's failing :/

17:27 <dp> seems like that fixed it

17:27 <dp> removed the data for the accounts that were downloaded

17:27 <PovAddict> hmm

17:27 <PovAddict> maybe those folders had bad permissions

17:28 <PovAddict> (if you ran the client from a different user account before - which usually causes big problems)

17:28 <dp> nope, same client

17:28 <dp> and there were no folders.  just the XMLs

17:28 <PovAddict> one of the places where it may return "-1" is when "creating project dirs"

17:29 <CoderForLife> home again

17:29 <dp> is there a way to force the client to update against the account manager?

17:30 <PovAddict> are you even attached to the account manager? you deleted some xml files, maybe you aren't attached now

17:30 <dp> I am

17:30 <PovAddict> did it say in the log that it was attached?

17:30 <dp> oop, gotta run.  will try again later

17:30 <PovAddict> seems there is no way to force an update from the command line

17:31 <PovAddict> for acctmgr

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17:42 <ELGono> ahoi dudes

17:42 <ELGono> today my windows box died .... porting user data on linux almost done

17:43 <xcamel> 'lo ElG

17:43 <ELGono> new kubuntu rockz

17:45 <ELGono> just need to enable cuda driver ... nvidia workz great so far

17:45 <ELGono> anybody knows if its possible to run seti-cuda at the same time with xgl desktop and stuff like compiz enabled?

17:45 <PovAddict> try it and see, and let us know

17:46 <PovAddict> there was someone here asking the same question before

17:46 <ELGono> on my why to do so ;)

17:46 <jackygrahamez> Obama wantsto spend 3% of gross domestic product on science

17:46 <Romulus> <> (at

17:47 <PovAddict> jackygrahamez: David Anderson probably sending a new grant request ;)

17:47 <jackygrahamez> can someone write one for me :-)

17:48 <PovAddict> hey, govt could give you free money, you should do the little effort of applying yourself

17:48 <PovAddict> if someone writes the grant application for you, he'll want a *percentage* of the grant :D

17:48 <jackygrahamez> I suppose, probably better if I had a Ph.D. next to my last name

17:48 <PovAddict> you know how it is...

17:49 <PovAddict> BS: bullsh*t

17:49 <PovAddict> MS: more sh*t

17:49 <PovAddict> PhD: piled higher and deeper

17:49 <jackygrahamez> I've gotten to More Sh*t

17:50 <jackygrahamez> really better if I find someone who is up to their neck, or PI, Piled In

17:51 <PovAddict> heh, what does PI really mean?

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17:51 <jackygrahamez> Project Investigator

17:51 <jackygrahamez> or Principal Investigator

17:51 <PovAddict> private investigator? :P

17:52 <jackygrahamez> that's what they like to think

17:52 <PovAddict> lol

18:02 <PovAddict> oh dear, Romulus was restarted recently and we're back to three factoid plugins running at once

18:03 <PovAddict> ah, nope, I'm wrong... moobotfactoids is simply left over in the config

18:03 <Soul_keeper> how's the povaddict channel doing today ?

18:07 <Soul_keeper> lol "the povaddict show" 24/7

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18:15 <CoderForLife> out to do battle with Nature...

18:15 <CoderForLife> "There Will Be No Dawn For Ants"

18:15 <CoderForLife> bbiab

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18:26 <jackygrahamez> where is the data directory in visita?

18:30 <Tank_Master> c:\programdata\boinc I believe

18:31 <PovAddict> &learn data directory on Windows XP as BOINC 6.x on XP keeps data in C:\Documents and settings\All users\Application Data\BOINC (note "Application Data" may be translated)

18:31 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.

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18:31 <PovAddict> damned ctrl-w

18:31 <Tank_Master> not sure on that as I use my won directories

18:32 <PovAddict> &learn data directory on Windows Vista as BOINC 6.x on Vista keeps data in C:\ProgramData\BOINC

18:32 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.

18:32 <PovAddict> &learn data directory on Vista as BOINC 6.x on Vista keeps data in C:\ProgramData\BOINC

18:32 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.

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18:35 <jackygrahamez> ah thanks, that stupid Vista search could not find it

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18:40 <PovAddict> xcamel: can you unregister "PovAddict", "PovAddict_", and "pov" on Romulus?

18:41 <PovAddict> I just registered as 'pov' to test something, because i don't remember the password of the other two, then noticed I can't unregister myself even if I do know the password

18:42 <Tank_Master> oh, jackygrahamez - my atom is in 5th for top computer :P

18:43 <Tank_Master> 5th for rac, 8th for toal

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18:48 <ELGono> well this is wierd

18:48 <ELGono> to get cuda support i need 180.22 with cuda

18:49 <ELGono> had 180.44 installed and did the downgrad causing the xserver complaining about ABI mode

18:49 <ELGono> err after downgrade xserver was complaining

18:49 <Tank_Master> :)

18:52 <dp> anyone know of any projects that support x86_64-pc-freebsd?

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19:09 <Tank_Master> hey jackygrahamez, you still here?

19:11 <jackygrahamez> yup

19:11 <jackygrahamez> I notice you got lots of errors

19:11 <Tank_Master> just an fyi

19:11 <Tank_Master> about those errors

19:11 <Tank_Master> just before they error out, I hear the HD going crazy

19:11 <jackygrahamez> I'm looking at it right now

19:12 <Tank_Master> like its uncompre4sssing stuff

19:12 <Tank_Master> this occures about 30 seconds in

19:12 <Tank_Master> well, 30 seconds is how long b4 it takes to error out, so it mucht be decompressing for that long

19:13 <Tank_Master> might*

19:13 <Tank_Master> I got task manager runing now, so ill see what resources its taking the next time I get a WU

19:14 <jackygrahamez> yours dies at the second step of the job file wrapper: running ./Python25/python.exe ( ".")

19:14 <jackygrahamez> app exit status: 0xc0000135

19:14 <PovAddict> jackygrahamez: wrapping a python app?

19:14 <jackygrahamez> yup

19:15 <Tank_Master> huh, lemme reboot the comp, I see that te system interups are taking about 15% of the CPU... o0

19:15 <jackygrahamez> i was doing pyinstaller for a while but since I have to run like 8 python scripts, I figured I'd send python in a single zip archive

19:15 <Tank_Master> seems a bit high

19:16 <PovAddict> jackygrahamez: I wrote an app that embeds the python interpreter and exposes the BOINC API to the script, letting you make a BOINC science app in Python without the process-level wrapper

19:16 <jackygrahamez> I think I send too many files with that python

19:16 <Tank_Master> man, win7 sure doesnt waste time shuting down :P

19:16 <Tank_Master> about 2-3 sec after you hit restart, your at the bios screen

19:16 <PovAddict> import boinc; boinc.init(); f = open(boinc.resolve_filename("input"), "r"); etc

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19:17 <jackygrahamez> hmm

19:17 <jackygrahamez> so you add that to an exising python script?

19:17 <jackygrahamez> existing python script?

19:18 <PovAddict> oh and most importantly maybe

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19:18 <PovAddict> boinc.set_progress(current_item / total_items)

19:19 <jackygrahamez> So you think I should do this differently?

19:19 <PovAddict> no, I don't think you should use my hack :P

19:20 <PovAddict> but I think the wrapper always causes more problems than it's worth, and that it should only be used in one case: no source code available for app

19:20 <Tank_Master> my memory useage goes up only 10MB when uncompressing

19:20 <jackygrahamez> I'm going to trim down the archives

19:21 <Tank_Master> boinc.exe does access the drive a lot, but I cant see it filling the HD

19:21 <jackygrahamez> I figured out over the weekend that I really didn't need to have certain python directories when I built it for the Macs

19:22 <jackygrahamez> so you got win7

19:23 <jackygrahamez> is it better than Vista?

19:23 <Tank_Master> oh yes

19:23 <Tank_Master> runs w/o a hitch on the netbooks

19:24 <Tank_Master> the public release for the RC will be our on may 5th

19:24 <Tank_Master> might not hurt to grab a copy for testing on

19:27 <Tank_Master> are other failing as frequently as mine?

19:29 <xcamel> well... that was fun..

19:30 <xcamel> turkey recapture... 3 miles down the road

19:30 <Tank_Master> what was?

19:30 <Tank_Master> lol

19:30 <xcamel> and on the other side of the block..

19:31 <xcamel> my 5 bug toms... wen out on a "big adventure"

19:31 <xcamel> er.. big toms

19:31 <jackygrahamez> well tank, I'll have to try this later...maybe tonight or tomorrow...hang in there

19:31 <Tank_Master> no worries

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19:32 <Tank_Master> its only siting there runing DD@H

19:32 <Tank_Master> or trying anyway

19:32 <Tank_Master> so why did it work b4 and not now?

19:32 <jackygrahamez> I'll examine the logs

19:33 <Tank_Master> was fine untill I hit the WUs with the higher FLOP estimates

19:33 <jackygrahamez> if you were running autodock it would be fine. Autodock_mgl is a different beast

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19:35 <jackygrahamez> yup you had sucess with autodock not autodock_mgl

19:35 <Tank_Master> ok

19:35 <Tank_Master> can I go back to those? :P

19:35 <jackygrahamez> I'm glad to have a patient select few to deal with at this early stage

19:36 <jackygrahamez> id rather not

19:36 <xcamel> been too long - how to fix error -180 (bind to gui rpc port)

19:36 <Tank_Master> lol, *fnine* :D

19:36 <jackygrahamez> limitations on that one

19:36 <PovAddict> &boincerr -180

19:36 <Romulus> PovAddict: bind() failed

19:36 <PovAddict> xcamel: client is already running then

19:36 <jackygrahamez> later

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19:37 <Tank_Master> im outa here for a bit to

19:37 <Tank_Master> c-ya

19:44 <xcamel> found/fixed

19:45 <xcamel> ... just try hoisting 5 40lb kicking and angry tom turkeys into the back of a pickup truck.

19:45 <PovAddict> lol

19:46 <xcamel> then ended up at a little farm on the other side of the block.. luckily she had them penned in.

19:47 <PovAddict> &math convert 40 lb kg

19:47 <Romulus> PovAddict: 18.1436948

19:47 <xcamel> I should say on the exact opposite corner of our 'country block'

19:49 <xcamel> yeah.. 18 kilos each

19:49 <xcamel> masa mino

20:02 <CoderForLife> back

20:02 <CoderForLife> re-hi

20:03 <CoderForLife> &w 45140

20:03 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Are you daft?

20:04 <CoderForLife> yes

20:04 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

20:04 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 78.6F / 25.9C | Humidity: 53% | Pressure: 30.11in / 1019.5hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 3.5mph / 5.6km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy this evening...then becoming mostly cloudy. A chance of showers and thunderstorms late. Lows in the lower 60s. South winds 10 to 15 mph. Gusts up to 30 mph this evening. Chance of rain 50 percent.; (1 more message)

20:06 <xcamel> storms to your west, as usual

20:07 <CoderForLife> yeah - all my weather thingies are giving me red lights

20:08 <CoderForLife> I can't seem to send enough money to wdsmia to keep these things

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20:10 <xcamel> heh

20:11 <CoderForLife> I say "what happens in Iowa, stays in Iowa"

20:11 <Soul_keeper> yeah right

20:12 <xcamel> fat chance

20:12 <xcamel> especially now..

20:13 <xcamel> now known as "The Cornhole State"

20:13 <CoderForLife> &more

20:13 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Tuesday - Showers with a chance of thunderstorms. Highs in the lower 70s. Southwest winds around 10 mph. Chance of rain 90 percent.; Tuesday Night - Cloudy. Showers with a chance of thunderstorms in the evening...then a chance of showers after midnight. Lows in the mid 50s. Northwest winds around 5 mph...becoming northeast after midnight. Chance of rain 80 percent.;

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20:29 <xcamel> &wx 12074

20:29 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 72.2F / 22.3C | Humidity: 59% | Pressure: 30.16in / 1021.2hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Isolated showers this evening. Not as cool with lows in the upper 50s. South winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Tuesday - Partly sunny. A chance of showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. (1 more message)

20:29 <xcamel> &more

20:29 <Romulus> xcamel: Highs around 80. South winds 10 to 15 mph...becoming west 15 to 20 mph in the afternoon. Chance of rain 50 percent.; Tuesday Night - Mostly cloudy with showers and thunderstorms likely in the evening...then partly cloudy after midnight. Much cooler with lows in the lower 40s. North winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 60 percent.;

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20:42 <xcamel> 'lo ElG

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20:44 <CoderForLife> The E Brothers

20:44 <efc> Moo

20:45 <CoderForLife> moo efc

20:46 <efc> Went over and played Rock Band with some people

20:47 <efc> Mostly singing

20:47 <efc> Harder than it sounds

20:49 <CoderForLife> I bet it sounded pretty hard

20:50 <efc> Its hard when you can't pick a comfortable key

20:54 <CoderForLife> depends on what you're trying on unlock

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20:54 <CoderForLife> beddy-bye time in Coderville - go up at 3:30 this morning to Code before w@#%

20:54 <CoderForLife> gn folks

20:55 <Tank_Master> gn

20:55 <CoderForLife> er got up, that is

20:55 <xcamel> laterz

20:57 <efc> Hey X, do they make a thinwall 4" PVC? Like schedule 200 maybe.

20:59 <xcamel> yes.

21:00 <efc> I need a 4" with a slightly larger ID than 40.. I can live with 40 if I hollow it out a little and use an extra long coupler (available at specialty sites)

21:02 <efc> I look at these sites that carry weird PVC parts a lot. I call it PVC Porn.

21:03 <xcamel> indeed

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21:04 <efc> This is for the telescope. I figured out the outside of a Sch40 4" coupling (not the pipe, the coupling) is a very good fit, with just slight sanding

21:05 <efc> Have to be careful though that the ID stays large enough until the light cone tapers

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21:17 <efc> Also bought an 8" concrete column form, might work as a dew shield. Can't find sonotube around here so got the quickrete brand. Not quite as sturdy.

21:23 <Soul_keeper> hello

21:25 <efc> moo soul

21:26 <Soul_keeper>   does this stuff look tasty ?

21:26 <Romulus> <> (at

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21:52 <Soul_keeper> I made a  water + clr + vinegar  mixture  to clean some heatsinks,  it was so powerfull it melted the  nickel plating off one heatsink

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21:59 * Soul_keeper pats himself on the back

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22:37 <efc> &wx 31088

22:37 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 68F / 20C | Humidity: 71% | Pressure: 30.35in / 1028hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the upper 50s. Light and variable winds.; Tuesday - Sunny. Highs in the lower 80s. Southeast winds 5 to 15 mph.; Tuesday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows in the upper 50s. Light and variable winds.;

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23:33 <PovAddict> &math calc 327 / 3 / 12

23:33 <Romulus> PovAddict: 9.08333333333

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