IRC logs of #boinc for Thursday, 2009-04-30

00:01 <FreeLarry> ah finally i see progress on bar

00:02 <FreeLarry> but then lock up at 20% area

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00:44 <Romulus> New news from boinc: BOINC news April 29, 2009

01:00 <Romulus> New news from boinc: BOINC news April 29, 2009

01:37 <Tank_Master> gn ye all

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04:04 <ELGono> &weather meiningen,germany

04:04 <Romulus> ELGono: Temperature: 49°F / 9°C | Humidity: 92% | Pressure: 30.03in / 1017hPa | Conditions: Mist | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 4mph / 7km/h | Updated: 10:00 AM CEST; Chance of a Thunderstorm. High:51 F.; Chance of a Thunderstorm. Low:41 F.; Partly Cloudy. High:60 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:42 F.; Clear. High:66 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:42 F.;

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05:12 <KathrynM> oh it's so hard to go to the gym after a long day at w*@^

05:12 <KathrynM> but I gotta do it

05:12 <KathrynM> laters

05:18 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

05:18 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 61.7F / 16.5C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 29.81in / 1009.4hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Occasional showers with a chance of thunderstorms. Highs in the mid 70s. South winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 35 mph. Chance of rain 100 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers and thunderstorms (1 more message)

05:18 <CoderForLife> &more

05:18 <Romulus> CoderForLife: in the evening...then occasional showers with a chance of thunderstorms after midnight. Lows in the lower 60s. Southwest winds 15 to 20 mph. Gusts up to 35 mph in the evening. Chance of rain 80 percent.; Friday - Showers and thunderstorms likely. Highs in the mid 70s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 70 percent.;

05:21 <CoderForLife>,2933,518405,00.html

05:21 <Romulus> <> (at

05:28 <CoderForLife> time to get ready for w@#%

05:28 <CoderForLife> laterz

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06:04 <KathrynM> dead woujld be preferable to how I feel now

06:18 <desti> 0_o

06:19 <CoderForLife> I avoid exercise

06:21 <CoderForLife> you are allocated only so many heartbeats - you'd hate to use them up doing some repetitive motion thing

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06:26 <CoderForLife> out the door

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06:37 <hawmps> 'lo

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08:56 <ELGono> wow heavy thunderstorm coming in

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10:15 * KathrynM takes her sore, tired body to bed

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11:08 <desti>

11:08 <Romulus> <> (at

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11:15 <jackygrahamez> he guys, anyone know when the next boinc conference will be held?

11:17 <PovAddict> workshop?

11:18 <PovAddict> '07 and '08 workshops were in September

11:18 <PovAddict> and I see no reason to expect it any earlier this year

11:22 <jackygrahamez> Strategies for Engineered Negligible Senescence (SENS), Fourth Conference

11:22 <jackygrahamez> Queens' College, Cambridge, England

11:22 <jackygrahamez> 3rd 7th September, 2009

11:23 <jackygrahamez> with my luck it will conflict

11:24 <PovAddict> there's nothing planned for BOINC workshop '09 that I know of

11:24 <PovAddict> so let David Anderson know he should keep it away from 3-7 September :)

11:27 <jackygrahamez> Wish I had the resources to host one

11:28 <jackygrahamez> I'm afraid I am at the bottom of the totem pole where I work

11:58 <FreeLarry> well cpdn doesn't like f8 x86_64 either keeps locking up the machine when trying to run it

11:58 <FreeLarry> disconnected it from that machine too

11:59 <FreeLarry> don't know about the other quad tho as hasn't tried to run a unit yet

12:00 <PovAddict> FreeLarry: I'd suggest doing a *clean install* of F10 instead of upgrading

12:05 <FreeLarry> yeah planning that but wont until i decide to upgrade the machine - don't know if you have anything stored on that machine's hd but may want to move it if you do

12:05 <FreeLarry> .107 for that machine

12:05 <PovAddict> what machine?

12:05 <PovAddict> quad?

12:06 <FreeLarry> dual

12:06 <FreeLarry> e6750

12:06 <FreeLarry> legacy machine with 5.25 floppy installed as well as 3.5 floppy

12:07 <PovAddict> on that machine I have a backup of renderfarm@home, which I copied from the machine that used to host renderfarm (I think you got rid of that machine)

12:08 <FreeLarry> yup the old celeron history i think you moved everyting to quad (.103?)

12:09 <FreeLarry> right now the dual running fine but question is for how long

12:09 <PovAddict> what a coincidence, povray_validator is there, I was looking at a copy of it I had here

12:09 <FreeLarry> longest run recently been a day and a half - and minutes if trying to do cpdn

12:09 <PovAddict> the version on your dual has an extra file, *now* I know what hack I had done to make it work

12:10 <FreeLarry> k so if i need to clean install on dual then you wont lose anything important?

12:11 <PovAddict> well I meant I just found something important on a first look, a missing piece in some old code I wrote, which made me understand how it managed to work :P

12:11 <FreeLarry> lol understand

12:11 <PovAddict> I think I have most of this on *my* other machine

12:13 <FreeLarry> k if anything important as bu on dual you may want to move it to one of the other two quads here

12:13 <wdsmia_w> 3 Retirement Partys today... not going to get much work done :)

12:14 <FreeLarry> dual .107 quads .103 and i think .100

12:15 <FreeLarry> ooh the aching bellies coming wdsmia_w

12:15 <PovAddict> 103 is the one you have forwarded

12:16 <FreeLarry> its a q6600 the .100 is i7 940

12:16 <FreeLarry> ssh allowed on all 3 but not sure how you would log on

12:16 <FreeLarry> pw's not changed

12:18 <PovAddict> I get to 103 (the only one I can connect directly to), then from there I connect to the rest

12:18 <FreeLarry> yeah thought so

12:19 * FreeLarry is not smart enough to know how to switch machines in ssh

12:20 <PovAddict> once I get to 103's shell, I run 'ssh' command in there :)

12:21 <FreeLarry> true - i just don't know ssh commands

12:21 <FreeLarry> don't play that deeply into codes

12:21 <FreeLarry> and commands

12:22 <FreeLarry> just a hobby to me for building machines - boinc just to keep them busy

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12:26 <FreeLarry> PovAddict if you could connect to .106 (windows xp pro64) you might like to check out some of the stuff on d drive

12:32 <PovAddict> no way to ssh to Windows machines (and no useful things to do from the command line)

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12:34 <FreeLarry> true i guess

12:45 <FreeLarry> ah i see 107 locked up again

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13:03 <FreeLarry> top - 10:02:52 up 17 min,  1 user,  load average: 3.77, 3.51, 2.26

13:03 <FreeLarry> Tasks: 118 total,   7 running, 111 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie

13:03 <FreeLarry> Cpu(s): 43.6%us,  2.3%sy, 52.1%ni,  0.0%id,  0.0%wa,  0.5%hi,  1.5%si,  0.0%st

13:03 <FreeLarry> Mem:   4062168k total,  4037004k used,    25164k free,    11324k buffers

13:03 <FreeLarry> Swap:  2031608k total,       52k used,  2031556k free,  3852636k cached

13:03 <FreeLarry> i see you PovAddict

13:04 <FreeLarry> didn't mean for you to get off

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13:05 <PovAddict> and again

13:05 <FreeLarry> machine still running

13:06 <FreeLarry> or is it slow connection?

13:06 <PovAddict> ah it *finished*

13:06 <PovAddict> well those 7.6GB sure copied fast

13:06 <FreeLarry> lol

13:06 <PovAddict> go ahead and wipe it :P

13:06 <PovAddict> backed up on 103

13:06 <FreeLarry> k will do so after i get upgrade parts

13:07 <FreeLarry> internal net is 100Mb so fairly fast here

13:08 <jackygrahamez> It looks like the workshop (if there is one) will be 22-23 Oct

13:08 <jackygrahamez> in Barcelona.

13:09 <PovAddict> boinc workshop?

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13:09 <jackygrahamez> yes

13:09 <jackygrahamez> That's what DA

13:09 <jackygrahamez> said

13:10 <Tank_Master> and you trust DA?

13:10 <Tank_Master> :P

13:10 <jackygrahamez> its all I have to go on

13:11 <Tank_Master> poor guy

13:11 <Tank_Master> feel sorry for ya  ;)

13:15 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx sxf

13:15 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 73°F / 23°C | Humidity: 23% | Pressure: 29.95in / 1014hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 15mph / 24km/h | Updated: 6:50 PM CEST; Clear. High:77 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:51 F.; Clear. High:73 F.; Clear. Low:44 F.; Clear. High:71 F.; Clear. Low:39 F.;

13:15 <Tank_Master> &wx 97123

13:15 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 53.8F / 12.1C | Humidity: 62% | Pressure: 30.03in / 1016.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Areas of morning fog or low clouds...then mostly sunny. Highs around 65. Light wind.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows 40 to 45. Northeast wind 5 to 10 mph.; Friday - Partly sunny. Highs around 70. East wind 5 to (1 more message)

13:15 <Tank_Master> &more

13:15 <Romulus> Tank_Master: 15 mph. Gusts to 20 mph near The Gorge.;

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13:40 <jackygrahamez> just done bring your H1N1

13:41 <jackygrahamez> &learn Influenza A virus subtype H1N1, also known as A(H1N1), is a subtype of influenzavirus A and the most common cause of influenza in humans.

13:41 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: The operation succeeded.

13:41 <jackygrahamez> H1N1

13:42 <jackygrahamez> Incluenza

13:42 <jackygrahamez> Influenza

13:42 * jackygrahamez duh

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14:16 <PovAddict> jackygrahamez: you need to separate the "key" and the explanation with 'as'

14:17 <PovAddict> now I think it added "A virus subtype H1N1, also known" as the key

14:18 <PovAddict> &factoids search H1N1

14:18 <Romulus> PovAddict: "Influenza A virus subtype H1N1, also known" could be A(H1N1), is a subtype of influenzavirus A and the most common cause of influenza in humans.

14:18 <PovAddict> &forget Influenza A virus subtype H1N1, also known

14:18 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.

14:18 <PovAddict> &learn Influenza as A virus subtype H1N1, also known as A(H1N1), is a subtype of influenzavirus A and the most common cause of influenza in humans

14:18 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.

14:18 <PovAddict> &whatis influenza

14:18 <Romulus> PovAddict: "influenza" could be A virus subtype H1N1, also known as A(H1N1), is a subtype of influenzavirus A and the most common cause of influenza in humans

14:30 <jackygrahamez> learn something every day

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14:36 <PovAddict> jackygrahamez: how's progress with Mac?

14:37 <jackygrahamez> its on my todo list

14:37 <jackygrahamez> it would help if I knew exactly how to do it

14:37 <yoyo[RKN]> puh, it's not on mine

14:37 <PovAddict> lol

14:39 <MTughan> yoyo[RKN]: You're not even the one doing it. :P

14:42 * yoyo[RKN] fights with some ecm 2GB wus

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14:58 <PovAddict> jackygrahamez: #boinc_dev for project stuff

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15:55 <FreeLarry> humm thats odd simap on one machine says no work available at same time dl'ing 10 wu's to another machine

16:00 <xcamel> 'lo

16:02 <MTughan> 'lo Jay

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17:33 <CoderForLife> home again

17:33 <CoderForLife> hello any and all

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17:46 <wdsmia> re-hi

17:52 <CoderForLife> hello wdsmia ELGono and all the ships at sea

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18:27 <xcamel> 'lo

18:28 <Rookie_69> Hi, Jay.

18:31 <CoderForLife> Hello xcamel Rookie_69

18:32 <Rookie_69> Hello, CoderForLife.

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18:52 <xcamel> yummy coffee

18:53 <wdsmia> yummy sam adams

18:53 <Rookie_69> Lol.

19:00 <xcamel> says you..

19:03 <wdsmia> so say we all

19:07 <CoderForLife> Where have you taken us, Kara?

19:09 <PovAddict> &ping

19:09 <Romulus> pong

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19:10 <CoderForLife> oopsey

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19:11 <KathrynM> you've gotta be kidding me.  at the top of a FB app there's a big banner with a link to tell you how to protect yourself from the flu.

19:11 <KathrynM> it's a friggin' app!!!!!!!!!

19:11 <PovAddict> KathrynM:

19:11 <Romulus> <> (at

19:11 <CoderForLife> hmm?

19:11 <PovAddict> that's stupid-er, when you think about it

19:12 <Tank_Master> KM!

19:13 <KathrynM> wash your friggin hands folks

19:13 <KathrynM> don't pick your nose, or rub your eyes or suck your thumb

19:14 <Tank_Master> so its ok to itch my croch in public?

19:14 <Tank_Master> :D

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19:14 * PovAddict insists - a thousand mexicans with swine flu and the world gets in panic, ten thousand argentinians with dengue and... nothing

19:15 <Tank_Master> theres ont critical thing your overlooking, pov

19:15 <Rookie_69> Most Americans don't vacation in Argentina though...

19:16 <Tank_Master> its harder for the media to use scar tatics on something that has been around for a while

19:16 <Tank_Master> and doesnt impact americans as much

19:16 <PovAddict> Rookie_69: "Americans" is not "the world"

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19:16 <Tank_Master> pov - tothe media they are

19:17 <Tank_Master> to the*

19:17 <Rookie_69> You don't have to tell me... I live in America's 52nd state.

19:18 <PovAddict> I read a few years ago, they did some tests to children in lots of schools, to take statistics...

19:18 <Rookie_69> ... Mexico being the 51st one.

19:18 <PovAddict> the lack of knowledge about geography was impressive

19:19 <PovAddict> worst was the percentage of children who couldn't locate the USA in the world map

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19:19 <xcamel> O'bummer said there were 57

19:19 <PovAddict> someone joked it was because they were looking for the center of the world :D

19:20 <Rookie_69> Google Earth is my friend.

19:21 <Rookie_69> I'ce sailed in more seas, canals, lakes, rivers, etc. than I knew existed.

19:21 <Rookie_69> ...I've...

19:22 <jackygrahamez> anyone here have a mac and want to test for me?

19:22 <Tank_Master> no smack n toss here

19:22 <Rookie_69> Cannaffordamac

19:22 <jackygrahamez> :-<

19:23 <Tank_Master> nothipenoughforamac

19:24 <jackygrahamez> ok

19:24 <jackygrahamez> brb

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19:25 <Ageless93> hopping in.

19:26 <Rookie_69> Jord!

19:27 <Ageless93> How do I add an additonal clause to the mySQL database query when I am looking for a specific error message in all the stderr_out files on a specific range of results?

19:28 <Tank_Master> get_the_fuchin_error_I_want

19:28 <PovAddict> AND stderr_out LIKE '%some_message%'

19:28 <PovAddict> % is a wildcard

19:28 <PovAddict> where'd you get MySQL access to a project anyway? :o

19:28 <Ageless93> I want all records that show "IOError: [Errno 9] Bad file descriptor" to come up on the name=3274 range

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19:30 * CoderForLife eyes the weather radar and Jord's SQL request suspiciously

19:31 <Ageless93> thanks, that worked.

19:31 <MTughan> Ageless93: Were you asking something about BOINC on OS X before?

19:32 <Ageless93> not me. Only notifying through the forums. ;)

19:34 <Rookie_69> Jord is not an alchemist, no matter what he thinks.

19:34 <Ageless93> oh thanks Glenn.

19:35 <Rookie_69> :-)

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19:46 <Rookie_69> I try... Or is that "I am very trying"?

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19:49 <KathrynM> eh, does editing /etc/hosts cause the keys on the machines to change?

19:49 <Ageless93> you try to be an alchemist? Blown anything up lately?

19:52 <PovAddict> keys?

19:52 <Romulus> keys are blank, or null, PovAddict

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19:54 <KathrynM> PovAddict,

19:54 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at

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19:55 <PovAddict> did you swap hostnames or something?

19:55 <Rookie_69> I haven't blown anything up since I blew up my driveshaft last august... I'm getting slack.

19:56 <KathrynM> I had "               localhost.localdomain localhost Nova" in /etc/hosts on Galaxy

19:56 <KathrynM> causing headaches with scp

19:56 <PovAddict> um

19:57 <PovAddict> with that line on galaxy's /etc/hosts, while on galaxy, connecting to nova would connect to localhost (= galaxy)

20:00 <desti> Visit Space Center Houston on *May 8, 2009*, for the second annual Career Day.* *Representatives from NASA and NASA contractors will be on hand to give students information on careers at NASA -- everything from robotic engineers to flight surgeons to materials scientists to astronauts and much more. Help get your students ready and excited about careers in science, technology, engineering and mathematics!

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20:11 <KathrynM> pov, which is why I took Nova out of that line.

20:11 <KathrynM> and now I'm getting the warnings

20:12 <PovAddict> because now you're really connecting to nova

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20:12 <PovAddict> sounds like you've never been connecting to it

20:13 <PovAddict> ssh thinks the nova key is X, but X is actually galaxy key

20:13 <KathrynM> so how do I fix it?

20:13 <Rookie_69> Hi Eddie, Pasquale.

20:13 <KathrynM> delete all the keys on both machines?

20:14 <KathrynM> start from scratch

20:14 <MTughan> I think you just have to remove the nova entry from /home/kathryn/.ssh/known_hosts

20:14 <PovAddict> first time you tried to connect from galaxy to nova, you actually connected from galaxy to galaxy, because of that line in hosts

20:14 <tricaric> howdy

20:14 <MTughan> 'lo tricaric

20:14 <PovAddict> so it stored galaxy's key as "this is nova's key"

20:15 <PovAddict> now you're really connecting to nova, and it found a different key (because it's a different computer!), and panicked

20:15 <MTughan> As it should.

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20:16 <KathrynM> yeah, I get why it's panicking

20:16 <KathrynM> oh well.

20:16 <KathrynM> it's friday and it's time to get ready for w&%$

20:16 <KathrynM> but it is friday, so that's a good thing

20:16 <Tank_Master> :)

20:17 <Tank_Master> thursday here

20:17 <Tank_Master> and almost time for diner

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20:17 <PovAddict> &ping

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20:17 <Romulus> pong

20:17 <Tank_Master> LOL

20:17 <Tank_Master> wtf?

20:18 <Rookie_69> Which

20:18 <Rookie_69> Tub3e

20:18 <Rookie_69> Fried?

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20:18 <Rookie_69> Stupid fingers.

20:18 <MTughan> PovAddict: Rommie replied, but you didn't.

20:19 <PovAddict> &last --in #boinc --nolimit

20:19 <Romulus> PovAddict: [20:18:57] <MTughan> PovAddict: Rommie replied, but you didn't., [20:18:49] <Rookie_69> Stupid fingers., [20:18:35] <Rookie_69> Fried?, [20:18:30] <Rookie_69> Tub3e, [20:18:25] <Rookie_69> Which, [20:17:56] <Tank_Master> wtf?, [20:17:42] <Tank_Master> LOL, [20:17:31] <PovAddict> &ping, [20:17:10] <Tank_Master> and almost time for diner, [20:17:01] <Tank_Master> thursday here, [20:16:58] (40 more messages)

20:19 <MTughan> He doesn't index his own messages.

20:20 <efc> moo

20:20 <efc> Hey XCamel, hows the Jeep coming?

20:22 <Tank_Master> woot, my qx9750 came in :D

20:23 <Tank_Master> now just waiting on the mobo

20:23 * Rookie_69 wonders what a qx9750 is.

20:25 * Rookie_69 decides that it's a processor.

20:29 <Tank_Master> it is

20:29 <Tank_Master> 3.16 intel quad core on the 45nm process

20:29 <Tank_Master> 1333 fsb

20:31 <MTughan> Isn't it a LGA771 socket though?

20:31 <Tank_Master> no

20:31 <Tank_Master> thats the qx9770

20:31 <Tank_Master> 1600FSB

20:31 <MTughan> I thought it was the 9775 that was 771 and the 9770 was 775.

20:32 <Tank_Master> bah, I dont remember :P

20:32 <MTughan> Yes, it is.

20:32 <Romulus> <> (at

20:32 <MTughan> And both have 1600MHz FSBs.

20:34 <Tank_Master> the 9750 was never sold

20:34 <Tank_Master> but you I can get it internle at intel

20:34 <Tank_Master> anywho, dinner time

20:34 <MTughan> 9750 or 9770?

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20:41 <Rookie_69> Anywho... Bedtime.

20:41 <Rookie_69> NN.

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20:43 <Tank_Master> qx9750

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20:48 <zombie67> so it occurred to me....hydrogen does just fine with tiger.

20:48 <zombie67> so whatever they use there, same solution for drug

20:49 <MTughan> Well, jacky hasn't returned. I was helping him with the proper GCC flags for Tiger and even Panther compat.

20:49 <MTughan> Last I heard from him, what I understand is that he had apps compiled, but they only ran on his machine.

20:49 <MTughan> If that's it, it's probably a dynamic library issue.

20:50 <MTughan> Oh, and I see what TM was saying now... He got a QX9770 (sweet processor, BTW!), and just mangled the model numbers.

20:53 <MTughan> Or a QX9650... Still a sweet proc.

20:58 <zombie67> nice

20:58 <zombie67> the problem that we were having two nights ago was that the apps would not unzip on tiger nachines

20:58 <zombie67> machines

20:58 <MTughan> What do you mean, wouldn't unzip?

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21:02 <CoderForLife> gn folks

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21:06 <zombie67> I mean that the process tries to unzip the Dl zip file, pegs the CPU, and nothing happens

21:06 <zombie67> both with intel and PPC

21:07 <Tank_Master> its a qx9750

21:08 <Tank_Master> not 9770 or 9650

21:22 <MTughan> Tank_Master: Hmm, not listed even on Wikipedia.

21:23 <MTughan> zombie67: So you downloaded a test application or something meant to be installed manually?

21:25 <zombie67> no

21:26 <zombie67> the task downloads.  it contains a zip file, tries to unzip, but never finishes, CPU pegged

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22:59 <KathrynM> ewwwwwwww

22:59 <KathrynM> I don't get paid enough to deal with puke

23:00 <Tank_Master> MTughan:  - like I said, it was never released to the public

23:01 <PovAddict> &grab kathrynm

23:01 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.

23:01 <KathrynM> lol

23:01 <Tank_Master> dont mind pov, he grabs everyone

23:02 * PovAddict has a slight tooth pain

23:02 * PovAddict panics

23:03 * Tank_Master tells pov its the swine flue

23:03 <PovAddict> ah good

23:04 <PovAddict> cant be worse than toothache

23:09 * PovAddict goes to sleep

23:09 * PovAddict hopes his tooth survives the night

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23:29 <PovAddict> how's this for a book name: Why software sucks - and what you can do about it

23:30 <Tank_Master> sounds like a cookie cutter title "how (insert item here) sucks..."

23:30 <Tank_Master> how/why

23:30 <XioNYC> There's also "The UNIX Haters Handbook" and "Make Friends for Fun and Profit"

23:35 <PovAddict>

23:35 <Romulus> Title: WHYSOFTWARESUCKS.COM (at

23:36 <zombie67> do you know the formal latin name of the swine flu?

23:36 <zombie67> Igpay Uflay

23:36 <zombie67> ;)

23:36 <zombie67> works on two levels

23:37 <Tank_Master> sounds like a dinner

23:37 <zombie67> how do I see what of mine has been grabbed?

23:39 <PovAddict> &quote zombie67

23:39 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: The command "quote" is available in the QuoteGrabs and Stock plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "quote".

23:39 <PovAddict> &quotegrabs quote zombie67

23:39 <Romulus> PovAddict: <zombie67> tank's just a credit whore

23:41 <PovAddict> &quotegrabs quote zombie67

23:41 <Romulus> PovAddict: <zombie67> tank's just a credit whore

23:41 <PovAddict> prolly only one

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