IRC logs of #boinc for Saturday, 2009-05-02

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00:24 <Soul_keeper> fucking figures

00:24 <wdsmia> asks Soul_keeper to please watch his or her language Thanks, your friendly channel op.

00:25 <PovAddict> &last --from Soul_keeper

00:25 <Romulus> PovAddict: [00:24:42] <Soul_keeper> fucking figures

00:26 <Soul_keeper> PovAddict are you still a faggot boy ?

00:26 <Soul_keeper> &grab Soul_keeper

00:26 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Error: You can't quote grab yourself.

00:26 <Soul_keeper> &last --from Soul_keeper

00:26 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: [00:26:34] <Soul_keeper> &grab Soul_keeper

00:26 <Soul_keeper> +2

00:26 <Soul_keeper> :)

00:27 <Soul_keeper> anyone here without an elitest attitude ?

00:28 <efc> Just us Proles here

00:28 <Soul_keeper> efc, what did you do rape a goat ?

00:28 <Soul_keeper> :)

00:29 <efc> Drunk, stoned, or both?

00:29 <Soul_keeper> neither

00:29 <Soul_keeper> you ?

00:29 <Romulus> I guess you are what you, Soul_keeper

00:29 <efc> no

00:29 <Soul_keeper> i'm kinda angry at the fact that nobody here messages me back when I message them

00:30 <PovAddict> efc: I have had him on ignore for quite a while

00:30 <PovAddict> is he giving you reasons to do the same or what? :P

00:30 <Soul_keeper> seriousely doubt there is anything positive going on in here, or that knowing anyone here is really worth it anymore

00:31 <efc> Sniff.

00:31 <Soul_keeper> childish la-la-la I can't here you  games now, it seems

00:31 <efc> I don't say anything if I don't know anything.

00:32 <Soul_keeper> yeah i've never had a problem with you efc

00:32 <Soul_keeper> but this channel has proven highly depressing to be in

00:32 <efc> Sorry

00:33 <efc> Maybe time to find something more aligned with your interests

00:33 <efc> BOINC/s@h doesn't seem as interesting as it used to be..

00:33 <Soul_keeper> yeah, i've cut it down to valuable channels without instigator children who think they know everything

00:34 <Soul_keeper> just figured i'd say bye or something

00:34 <efc> just have to ignore the IRC Type-A people

00:36 <Soul_keeper> i'll be in #linuxsociety   i've run that channel for many years,  I ban people there who refuse to conduct themselve decently toward others

00:37 <efc> Good luck then, stop by anytime

00:37 <Soul_keeper> thanks

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01:29 <Tank_Master> why the fuch would I want to do tot he dark side? :P

01:35 <Tank_Master> gn ye all

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01:40 <Hobbit`> hello, i would like some help learning how to close my boinc account

01:41 <PovAddict> there is no such thing as "boinc account"

01:41 <PovAddict> you mean an account on a particular BOINC project?

01:41 <Hobbit`> yes

01:42 <PovAddict> well what project? :)

01:42 <Hobbit`> i was under the impression I had a cross-project ID

01:42 <Hobbit`> i believe it is called ...

01:42 <Hobbit`> DistrRTgen

01:43 <PovAddict> you do have a "cross-project ID", but that's just a number used to link your accounts on different projects to each other, so you can, for example, know your total credits across all projects

01:43 <PovAddict> projects don't have any way to close accounts automatically, you'd have to contact the project administrator and ask for it

01:44 <PovAddict> however, changing your email address and name on a project is quite equivalent..

01:44 <PovAddict> why do you want to close it?

01:44 <Hobbit`> i have changed my name on it, and it has not yet propegated throughout all of the servers which log activity

01:45 <Hobbit`> i am logging off the internet, and am trying to remove my traces

01:45 <PovAddict> that's technically impossible y'know...

01:45 <Hobbit`> yes, i know

01:45 <Hobbit`> note 'trying'

01:45 <PovAddict> example: everything you're saying here will be publicly logged at

01:45 <PovAddict> .)

01:45 <Hobbit`> yes, i know

01:46 <PovAddict> change your name, change your email address, delete your profile if you have one

01:46 <PovAddict> propagation to stats sites may take a whole day

01:47 <Hobbit`> i have noticed, however, that the logs do not contain ip addresses .. and I am not currently using my known alias

01:48 <PovAddict> &dns

01:48 <Romulus> PovAddict:

01:48 <PovAddict> now they do

01:48 <Hobbit`> ass

01:50 <Hobbit`> anyhoo, hopefully they will all correctly propegate

01:50 <Hobbit`> cya

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02:20 <Nickuwo> when i do a make in boinc/sched i get mysql.h not found... /usr/include/mysql is in my path, wtf?

02:22 <Nickuwo> i even set MYSQL_LIBS in the makefile to /usr/include/mysql

02:25 <Nickuwo>

02:25 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at

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03:09 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

03:09 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 52.8F / 11.6C | Humidity: 89% | Pressure: 29.73in / 1006.7hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers. Lows in the lower 50s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph...becoming light north winds after midnight. Chance of rain 50 percent.; Saturday - Mostly cloudy with a 50 percent chance of showers. Highs (1 more message)

03:09 <CoderForLife> &more

03:09 <Romulus> CoderForLife: in the upper 50s. North winds around 5 mph...becoming west in the afternoon.; Saturday Night - Mostly cloudy with a 50 percent chance of showers. Lows in the upper 40s. South winds around 5 mph... becoming southeast after midnight.;

03:29 <CoderForLife> &dict cabal

03:29 <Romulus> CoderForLife: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gcide: Cabal \Ca*bal"\, v. i. [imp. & p. p. {Caballed} (-b[a^]ld"); p. pr. & vb. n. {Caballing}]. [Cf. F. cabaler.] To unite in a small party to promote private views and interests by intrigue; to intrigue; to plot. [1913 Webster] Caballing still against it with the great. --Dryden. [1913 Webster]; wn: cabal n 1: a clique (often secret) that seeks power (11 more messages)

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07:40 <CoderForLife> re-hi - slept another 2-1/2 hours

07:51 <xcamel> 'lo

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08:27 <xcamel> &wx 12074

08:27 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 46.9F / 8.3C | Humidity: 81% | Pressure: 29.94in / 1013.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 3.0mph / 4.8km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. Highs in the mid 60s. West winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows around 40. West winds 5 to 10 mph in the evening...becoming light and variable.; Sunday - Partly sunny in the morning...then (1 more message)

08:27 <xcamel> &more

08:27 <Romulus> xcamel: becoming mostly cloudy. Highs in the mid 60s. South winds 5 to 10 mph.;

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09:48 <CoderForLife> re-hi again

09:48 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

09:48 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 53.4F / 11.9C | Humidity: 81% | Pressure: 29.77in / 1008.0hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. Showers likely...mainly this afternoon. Highs in the upper 50s. Northwest winds around 5 mph. Chance of rain 60 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a 50 percent chance of showers. Lows in the upper 40s. (1 more message)

09:48 <CoderForLife> &more

09:48 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Southwest winds around 5 mph...becoming southeast after midnight.; Sunday - Mostly cloudy with showers likely. Highs around 60. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 70 percent.;

09:49 <CoderForLife> coolish, pretty, serene outside

09:49 <CoderForLife> trees are greening up nicely

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10:17 <serfurj> has anyone experienced rapidly repeating keystrokes in X while boinc is running with 100% cpu?

10:17 <serfurj> it only happens occasionally

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10:28 <PovAddict> trees are oranging here

10:53 <CoderForLife> Autumn arrives in the southern hemisphere

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11:35 <xcamel> back again

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11:38 <xcamel> chilly out today..

11:58 <xcamel> serfurj >> yeah, it happens.

11:59 <serfurj> xcamel: is there any way to prevent it?

11:59 <xcamel> all mine run 100% all the time

12:00 <serfurj> is that a problem with the linux kernel or X?

12:00 <xcamel> usb keyboard/mouse?

12:00 <serfurj> both

12:00 <xcamel> switch ports if you can

12:05 <xcamel> at least that worked for me. I think it might be an X issue, as I have never seen it in a console.

12:09 <serfurj> seems like a known bug: i'll try changing ports, thanks.

12:09 <Romulus> <> (at

12:11 <serfurj> apparently a tough one to solve.  it's been open for 1.5 years

12:12 <xcamel> indeed.

12:15 <Nickuwo> - mysql.h not found? it's in my path...

12:15 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at

12:19 <Nickuwo> tried editing the makefile

12:19 <Nickuwo> no dice

12:20 <Nickuwo> sym link from /usr/lib to /usr/include/mysql?

12:33 <Nickuwo> nm got it

12:35 <Nickuwo> crap

12:35 <Nickuwo> could someone paste me their boinc/sched/makefile?

12:35 <Nickuwo> or at least lines 520-540

12:36 <Nickuwo> where the hell is everyone

12:37 <Nickuwo> hmm, this makefile wont even make sample_work_generator will it

12:38 <Nickuwo> ..

12:38 <Nickuwo> well turds

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12:49 <Nickuwo> hey Tank

12:51 <Tank_Master> howdy

13:01 <CoderForLife> still need the makefile Nickuwo?

13:02 <CoderForLife> I edit

13:02 <Nickuwo> nah, i dont think it'll do what i need. thx anyway

13:02 <CoderForLife> ok

13:02 <Nickuwo> just tryin to compile sample_work_generator

13:02 <CoderForLife> that's a good start =)

13:02 <Nickuwo> heh

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13:32 <Nickuwo> why am i getting no space left on device errors when df tells me im only using 30%?

13:34 <Nickuwo> damn you linux

13:36 <CoderForLife> you're temporarily filling it up?

13:37 <CoderForLife> you're not writing to the device you think you are?

13:37 <CoderForLife> device is read-only?

13:37 <Nickuwo> hmm

13:37 <Nickuwo> writing to home dir, df says sda, mounted on /, only 30% used

13:37 <Nickuwo> sda1

13:38 <CoderForLife> permissions????

13:38 <Romulus> It has been said that permissions are still screwy, CoderForLife

13:38 <CoderForLife> indeed

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13:39 <CoderForLife> wb Jord

13:39 <Ageless93> heya

13:40 <CoderForLife> I usually go by Don, but a will do

13:40 <Ageless93> be glad, I typed heyas first

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13:40 <CoderForLife> lol

13:41 * CoderForLife notes his source Code editor window now also says lol

13:41 <Ageless93> still not that well at typing today, but probably less mistakes than you did last night

13:42 <CoderForLife> I'm trying to get SQLite to tell me why a temp table created from a real SQLite table in read-only mode is returning different values as the result of a query

13:42 * CoderForLife continues Coding his runtime compare

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13:47 <Tank_Master> hiyaz

13:52 <Ageless93> DD needs more testers, anyone interested?

13:57 <Tank_Master> can I get an invite code for soemone?

13:57 <Tank_Master> actually about 10-15 people on my team expressed interest in getting a code

13:57 <Tank_Master> so, how meny do you want?

13:57 <Tank_Master> :D

13:58 <Ageless93> i'll ask

13:58 <Nickuwo> whats dd?

13:58 <Tank_Master> ok

13:59 <Tank_Master> &whatis drugdiscovery

13:59 <Romulus> Tank_Master: "drugdiscovery" could be (#1) New BOINC project, models the behavor of lead compounds that could be developed into new medicines., or (#2)

13:59 <Nickuwo> hmm...

13:59 <Nickuwo> down?

13:59 <Tank_Master> jacky is heading up its creation

13:59 <CoderForLife> downers

14:00 <Nickuwo> right on

14:00 <Tank_Master> ageless is helping out with the forum stuff

14:00 <Nickuwo> cool

14:00 <Tank_Master> I just complain about not having enough work

14:00 <Tank_Master> :P

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14:01 <Nickuwo> i complain about a lot of things, not having enough work is not one of them

14:01 <CoderForLife> it's a good thing I like to Code - I'm doing a lot of it lately

14:01 <Nickuwo> and i dont even have a job

14:01 <Tank_Master> nie

14:01 <Tank_Master> nice*

14:01 <CoderForLife> Ni!

14:01 <Nickuwo> ow

14:02 <Ageless93> on the phone

14:02 <Nickuwo> Ni-ing a poor old woman like that! shame on you!

14:02 <Nickuwo> now that I think about it df has been giving me the same shit since i got this box...

14:02 <wdsmia> asks Nickuwo to please watch his or her language Thanks, your friendly channel op.

14:02 <Nickuwo> fishy

14:03 <Nickuwo> i need a hamburger

14:04 <Tank_Master> lol

14:06 <Ageless93> TM, didn't you get the invitation code from Jack at that time?

14:07 <Tank_Master> he said not to distribute

14:07 <Tank_Master> and I didnt write the code down

14:07 <Ageless93> ok.

14:07 <Tank_Master> zombie probably has it if you dont

14:07 <Tank_Master> I can get it from him

14:08 <Ageless93> I wouldn't give it out in this channel anyway and with DD down... lol

14:08 <Tank_Master> basicly im just waiting for aproval to give it to others

14:08 <Ageless93> I know, asking about that but Jack's busy busy busy

14:08 <Tank_Master> :)

14:08 <Tank_Master> tell  him to get his lazy @$$ in here

14:09 <Ageless93> not so lazy

14:09 <Tank_Master> hey, looks like the mgltools app is working again

14:10 <Tank_Master> got 4 waiting to upload

14:10 <Ageless93> Jack just restarted it.

14:10 <Ageless93> will take a bit to propagate

14:11 <Tank_Master> ok

14:12 <Tank_Master> if he PMs me the code with how meny people I can give it to, ill get on that soon

14:12 <Ageless93> TM, PM me somewhere and I'll give you the IV code

14:12 <Tank_Master> I did

14:12 <Tank_Master> you didnt respond

14:13 <Ageless93> did now

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14:13 * jackygrahamez slaps Tank_Master with a big red brick

14:13 * jackygrahamez slaps Tank_Master with a rainbow trout

14:14 <Ageless93> hello Jack

14:14 * Tank_Master slaps jackygrahamez iwth a rainbow brick

14:15 * jackygrahamez rebooting DD@H

14:18 <jackygrahamez> at least H2@H is up

14:19 <Ageless93> and still going

14:21 <jackygrahamez> should we say call my hosting service?

14:21 <Ageless93> perhaps they had an earthquake

14:22 <Tank_Master> H2 is outa work

14:22 <Tank_Master> wouldnt call that up

14:22 <jackygrahamez> that's a good point both my hosting providers are in CA

14:24 <Ageless93> H2 isn't out of work, I am just throttling making it to keep the disk from filling again.

14:25 <Tank_Master> sais its outa work

14:25 <Ageless93> until we can get more disk space from somewhere, it'll be throttling or die

14:25 <Tank_Master> therefor it is outa work

14:25 <Ageless93> I am making 36 tasks/minute

14:25 <Tank_Master> you can get a 2TB HD now... :D

14:25 <jackygrahamez> I was hoping someone would donate one

14:25 <jackygrahamez> and the bandwidth too

14:26 <Tank_Master> lol

14:32 <Tank_Master> project still down :(

14:38 <Ageless93> it's being handled

14:39 * jackygrahamez self flagulates

14:40 <jackygrahamez> DD@H, unsafe at any speed

14:41 <Ageless93> it's that flu that you were checking. it fought back

14:41 <jackygrahamez> what is Pov testing?

14:41 <Ageless93> infected the server

14:43 <Tank_Master> as usual

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15:04 <Tank_Master> yoyo!!

15:04 <Tank_Master> crap, does this mean its time to go to bed already?

15:05 <yoyo[RKN]> for me

15:06 <Tank_Master> ah

15:06 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx sxf

15:06 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 64°F / 18°C | Humidity: 30% | Pressure: 30.24in / 1024hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h | Updated: 8:50 PM CEST; Clear. High:71 F.; Clear. Low:39 F.; Clear. High:73 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:42 F.; Chance of Rain. High:59 F.; Partly Cloudy. Low:42 F.;

15:06 <FreeLarry> &wx 98366

15:06 <Romulus> FreeLarry: Temperature: 58.8F / 14.9C | Humidity: 80% | Pressure: 29.86in / 1011.1hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Rest of Today - Periods of light rain. Highs near 60. South wind 10 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Showers. Lows in the mid and upper 40s. South wind 10 to 15 mph.; Sunday - Mostly cloudy. Chance of showers...mainly south of Seattle. Highs in the mid (1 more message)

15:07 <FreeLarry> blah wet commute

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15:11 <Tank_Master> fun times

15:11 <Tank_Master> so, jack, you bald yet from pulling your hair out?

15:12 <Ageless93[Away]> it's out of his hands

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15:12 <Ageless93> the server company is busy with it

15:12 <Tank_Master> ahh

15:13 <Tank_Master> so hardware issue then?

15:13 <Tank_Master> did we loose *everything*?

15:13 <Ageless93> more like too high a load.

15:13 <Tank_Master> ahh

15:13 <Ageless93> they're trying to calm it down as DD isn't the only project on that server, so they can't just reboot it either

15:13 <Tank_Master> they shut it down when the load is to high?

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15:14 <Ageless93> that happens automatically.

15:14 <Tank_Master> ouch

15:14 <Ageless93> which is quite normal

15:16 <jackygrahamez> Its a virtual host provided by a hosting company. I doubt there are other BOINC projects onboard but there could be

15:17 <Ageless93> not BOINC projects per se, but other projects or sites

15:17 <CoderForLife> re-hi

15:17 <Tank_Master> re-wb

15:17 <CoderForLife> ty

15:18 <CoderForLife> did a little yard work

15:18 <CoderForLife> as little as possible

15:18 <Tank_Master> saving energy?

15:18 <CoderForLife> indeed - besides I met my weekend photosynthesis minimum requirements

15:19 <efc> moo

15:19 <CoderForLife> hello efc

15:20 <efc> I need to do some hedge trimming.. later when its cooler

15:20 <efc> I enjoy it for some reason. I guess I like hurting things.

15:23 <PovAddict> Ageless93: Re "DD needs more testers, anyone interested?", I'd like an account at least so I can post on the forums, can't guarantee I'll be available to test

15:23 <PovAddict> but it may be also useful to get single WUs to inspect their params and help Jack when he asks stuff :)

15:23 <Ageless93> wait until it's back up, Nick

15:23 <CoderForLife> heh

15:24 <CoderForLife> charity at some many levels

15:24 <Tank_Master> isnt that overkill Ageless93 ?

15:24 <CoderForLife> er so many

15:24 <Tank_Master> waiting for it to be accessible before accessing it?

15:26 <CoderForLife> sometimes I think SQLite is so weak, it needs to be called SQLWeak

15:27 <Tank_Master> SQL4gimps

15:27 <CoderForLife> just a tadbit on the "toy" side of the meter

15:27 <Tank_Master> :)

15:28 * CoderForLife rewrites his Code to avoid a SQLite result set size problem

15:33 <PovAddict> weak how?

15:33 <Tank_Master> woot

15:33 <Tank_Master> got hydrogen work

15:33 <PovAddict> I have h2 on NNW, I want to run as many Primegrid tasks as possible

15:33 <Tank_Master> I dont see the point in PG

15:34 <PovAddict> to analyze the output files (I hacked the client code so it doesn't delete output files after uploading)

15:34 <Tank_Master> doh, got a comp error on one fo rthe H2 WUs

15:35 <Ageless93> all those DDs uploading and nowhere to go

15:35 <Tank_Master> yeah...

15:36 <CoderForLife> weak in that I want to compare a "real" SQLite table to a temp copy, because the temp copy is returning the wrong values - I can't get a result set back from the real table.  As soon as it gives me the column names back, after a long pause, the result set (handle) becomes dereferenced

15:36 <Ageless93> but good that you have a computation error. We're trying to find a lot of them

15:37 <CoderForLife> I'm now going to pull one row from the real table and the corresponding row from the temp table and compare values

15:37 <CoderForLife> my theory is that in that the temp table is in memory, it is getting stepped on somewhere

15:44 <Nickuwo> df

15:44 <Nickuwo> whoops

15:46 <CoderForLife> Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on

15:46 <CoderForLife> nuts

15:46 <Nickuwo> sudo rm -r /

15:47 <CoderForLife> heh  a joke is all about in the telling and timing

15:47 <Nickuwo> or maybe i need an f in there

15:47 <MTughan> Nickuwo: You need -rf.

15:47 <CoderForLife> to really f it up you do

15:47 <Nickuwo> hehe

15:48 <Ageless93> bbl, going to eat dinner

15:48 <PovAddict> to err is human, but to really f up you need a computer

15:49 * Nickuwo is thoroughly confused...

15:49 <Nickuwo> cant spell to boot

15:50 <Tank_Master> and you need it turned on

15:50 <Ageless93> DD is back

15:50 <Nickuwo> o, that was right

15:50 <Ageless93> or will be if it isn't... they rebooted

15:50 <PovAddict> if it's on the internet, the computer doesn't even need a user, it can explode by itself

15:50 <Tank_Master> it is up

15:51 <Tank_Master> uploaded n reported

15:59 <Nickuwo> ive had enough of your bs linux, time for L4D

15:59 <CoderForLife> my exhaustive real-table-to-temp-table compare is exhausting

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16:13 <serfurj> is all of the code boinc runs free software?

16:14 <Tank_Master> yes

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16:14 <Tank_Master> wb yoyo

16:15 <serfurj> i can't find a link to download the source code of the experiments at

16:15 <Romulus> Title: | The world's largest climate forecasting experiment for the 21st century. (at

16:16 <PovAddict> serfurj: you can't download the source code

16:17 <serfurj> then how is it free software

16:17 <Tank_Master> its free in that you dont pay for it...

16:17 <PovAddict> who said it is?

16:17 <PovAddict> climateprediction is NOT free software

16:18 <Tank_Master> what do you mean by free then?

16:18 <serfurj> free as in freedom

16:18 <PovAddict> "This program is about a million lines of fortran code, which normally runs on the weather people's big main-frame. And it's NOT open source."

16:18 <Tank_Master> never heard of freedom software

16:19 <Tank_Master> you mean opensource?

16:19 <Tank_Master> cus opensource software is waayy different that free software

16:19 <PovAddict> open source doesn't automatically mean you're free to edit it and distribute it

16:20 <PovAddict> "free software" as defined by FSF isn't the same as "freeware"

16:20 <serfurj>

16:20 <Romulus> Title: What is free software and why is it so important for society? - Free Software Foundation (at

16:21 <Tank_Master> We call this free software because the user is free. <- my god someone needs an educatiuon in grammer

16:22 <serfurj> Tank_Master: the word free has more than one meaning

16:22 <PovAddict> look who's speaking

16:22 <PovAddict> that line has better grammar than any of your last five lines

16:22 <Nickuwo> lol Tank :)

16:23 <Tank_Master> pov, no it does not have better grammer.

16:24 <PovAddict> you're missing a comma and it's spelt "grammar"

16:24 <serfurj> well the fact that climateprediction is not free software is going to be an issue for me.  are there any boinc experiments that are free software?

16:24 <Tank_Master> seti

16:25 <Tank_Master> its rare for a project to hand out its code

16:26 <Tank_Master> mostly because the code chahges to much that distubuting it would add to the complexity of the project

16:26 <serfurj> that's surprising, since they're mostly academic projects

16:26 <PovAddict> seti@home, milkyway

16:26 <Tank_Master> climate is not an acidemic project

16:26 <efc> yeah sabotage is a problem. Not that hiding the code prevents it but it slows it down some.

16:27 <PovAddict> in theory, if climateprediction code was open source, you could modify some parameters and use it for commercially-valuable short-term weather forecasts

16:27 <Nickuwo> serfurj: what are you trying to do, if you dont mind me asking?

16:28 <serfurj> Nickuwo: i'm just trying to contribute without running non-free software on my computer

16:28 <PovAddict> then I'd suggest you compile your BOINC client with a fake platform string, to *avoid* downloading apps from projects

16:29 <Tank_Master> most of the acidemic projects are sensitive to the results returned, therefor they dont eant anyone messing with the code as that intoduces an unknown varible

16:29 <PovAddict> then it will only run apps you manually configure with "anonymous platform", maybe compiled by yourself

16:30 <PovAddict> ok, gotta get busy looking at how jack's DD@H app works

16:30 * PovAddict sees a useless step already

16:30 <CoderForLife> that was quick

16:30 <PovAddict> I had already been looking for the past few minutes

16:31 <PovAddict> but with IRC distractions

16:31 <PovAddict> "gotta get busy" meant "gotta stop looking at IRC"

16:32 <PovAddict> the sitecustomize stuff seems to set environment variables and quit; those vars won't stay alive after it quits!

16:33 <CoderForLife> Got.. to.. stay.. on.. target..

16:36 <Nickuwo> is there a limit to the number of subdirectories a directory can have on linux?

16:36 <PovAddict> filesystem-defined

16:36 <PovAddict> usually something like 32000

16:36 <PovAddict> but filename lookup gets really slow at those numbers

16:37 <Nickuwo> fuck

16:37 <wdsmia> asks Nickuwo to please watch his or her language Thanks, your friendly channel op.

16:37 <PovAddict> (that's why BOINC server download and upload directories have those randomly-named subdirs instead of throwing all files directly in the top dir)

16:37 <Nickuwo> wait, i only have 1000

16:37 <PovAddict> 1000 is nothing :)

16:37 <Nickuwo> i didnt think so

16:37 <PovAddict> stay <10000

16:38 <Nickuwo> dude, 'no space left on device' but df tells me i got 100gigs left

16:38 <Nickuwo> wtf

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16:38 <PovAddict> on which device?

16:38 <Nickuwo> #/dev/sda1 mounted at /

16:39 <CoderForLife> "randomly-named" doesn't sound scientific enough - let's  call it "hashed"

16:40 <Nickuwo> this is frustrating.

16:41 <CoderForLife> you're Coding, aren't you?

16:41 <Nickuwo> not really...

16:41 <CoderForLife> it's a creative act

16:41 <PovAddict> ok, based on the first three characters of the md5 hash of the filename

16:41 <CoderForLife> there ya go - I'm going to call it "poving" from now on

16:46 * CoderForLife thinks maybe PovAddict wouldn't care for that particular honor, after all

16:50 <Nickuwo> i underestimated how difficult transferring 37 gigs worth of 1kb files from one computer to another would be...

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16:50 <PovAddict> rsync!

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16:58 <Nickuwo> one of those comps is vista..

16:59 <PovAddict> rsync on cygwin!

16:59 <Nickuwo> lol

16:59 <Nickuwo> dammit

16:59 <Nickuwo> like i said above :)

16:59 <PovAddict> 7zip archive?

16:59 <Nickuwo> yea, i'm trying that as we speak

16:59 * Nickuwo crosses fingers

17:00 <PovAddict> or we could go deeper and wonder why the hell yo uhave 37GB of 1KB files

17:00 <Nickuwo> i probably should have just generated the files on the server...

17:00 <Nickuwo> hmm

17:00 <PovAddict> > #boinc_dev

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18:08 <efc> &wx 30625

18:08 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 82F / 28C | Humidity: 48% | Pressure: 29.94in / 1014hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a 50 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Lows in the lower 60s. Light southwest winds.; Sunday - Partly sunny in the morning then becoming mostly sunny with a 20 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Highs in the mid (1 more message)

18:08 <efc> &more

18:08 <Romulus> efc: 80s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph.; Sunday Night - Mostly cloudy with a 50 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Lows in the lower 60s. South winds 10 to 15 mph.;

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18:36 <Tank_Master> &wx 97123

18:36 <Tank_Master> &more

18:36 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 60.1F / 15.6C | Humidity: 79% | Pressure: 29.53in / 999.9hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Showers in the evening...then showers likely after midnight. Breezy. Lows 45 to 50. Southwest wind 15 to 25 mph early in the evening...then wind becoming light overnight.; Sunday - Rain likely. Highs around 60. Light wind.; Sunday (1 more message)

18:36 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Night - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers in the evening... then a slight chance of showers after midnight. Lows 40 to 45. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph.;

18:39 <Tank_Master> mostly cloudy my @$$

18:39 <Tank_Master> nothing but clouds, poring like the dickens and thunder out there...

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18:44 <Tank_Master>

18:44 <Romulus> <> (at

18:55 <Tank_Master> yeah, its nasty out there now...

18:55 <Tank_Master> just had a branch break out frount

18:55 <Tank_Master> &wx 97123

18:55 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 57.0F / 13.9C | Humidity: 76% | Pressure: 29.56in / 1000.9hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 2.7mph / 4.3km/h ; Tonight - Showers in the evening...then showers likely after midnight. Breezy. Lows 45 to 50. Southwest wind 15 to 25 mph early in the evening...then wind becoming light overnight.; Sunday - Rain likely. Highs around 60. Light wind.; (1 more message)

18:55 <Tank_Master> &more

18:55 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Sunday Night - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers in the evening... then a slight chance of showers after midnight. Lows 40 to 45. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph.; Severe Thunderstorm Warning for Washington County in effect until 4:30 PM PDT on May 02, 2009;

18:55 <Tank_Master> how often does that update?

18:58 <Tank_Master> The Weather Service has issued a SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING effective until 04:30 PM PDT

18:58 <Tank_Master> :P

18:58 <Tank_Master> now that its almost over

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20:05 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

20:05 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 66.1F / 18.9C | Humidity: 27% | Pressure: 29.84in / 1010.4hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Low in the lower 40s. West wind near 10 mph.; Sunday - Sunny. High in the lower 70s. Northwest wind near 10 mph.; Sunday Night - Mostly clear. Low in the mid 40s. North wind near 10 mph shifting to the east after (1 more message)

20:05 <wdsmia> &more

20:05 <Romulus> wdsmia: midnight.;

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21:03 <zombie67> seti is down again

21:51 <PovAddict> oh is it ever up? :)

21:52 <zombie67> TRVTH

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22:49 <PovAddict> xcamel: I just tried BOINC Manager on Kubuntu 9.04 (KDE 4.2.2) and it worked fine

22:51 <PovAddict> installed it from Ubuntu repos

22:51 <PovAddict> now trying Berkeley's

22:54 <PovAddict> also worked

22:54 <PovAddict> must be a fedora issue

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23:29 <zombie67> yea!  DD is back up

23:30 <Tank_Master> lol

23:30 <Tank_Master> been up for a while

23:30 <Tank_Master> though there no work

23:40 <zombie67> yeah, but I had about 100 tasks to report

23:43 <Tank_Master> ahh, so your the one hording them all

23:44 <Tank_Master> man, thats sad

23:44 <Tank_Master> my atom comp is in 4th place for both rac and total

23:44 <Tank_Master> at DD@H

23:52 <zombie67> my atom is on many projects, so it is not spending much time on DD

23:53 <Tank_Master> ah

23:53 <Tank_Master> mine is only doing hydrogen and dd

23:53 <zombie67> you should attach to amelgrid

23:53 <Tank_Master> y?

23:53 <zombie67> so get some when it is available

23:54 <Tank_Master> whats the url?

23:54 <zombie67> it is another one of those projects that sends work every day or two

23:54 <zombie67> it is on BS

23:54 <zombie67> BAM

23:54 <Tank_Master> ok

23:54 <zombie67> along with my 4 tasks running, my atom also does 25 freehal tasks at a time

23:55 <zombie67> fun to watch almost 30 tasks running at a time

23:55 <zombie67> on an atom

23:56 <PovAddict> xcamel: tried a Fedora Core 10 LiveCD with KDE4, BOINC 6.4.5, manager ran just fine

23:57 <Tank_Master> 25 is the max

23:57 <zombie67> seti is back up

23:58 <MTughan> Oh, got a doozy here... Guy wanting to use OpenNIC instead of ICANN because he thinks the US government is turning socialist and will take down his site.

23:58 <zombie67> no

23:58 <Tank_Master> lol

23:58 <zombie67> seti is not up

23:58 <zombie67> but uploading works

23:59 <PovAddict> isn't OpenNIC disconnected from the real world?

23:59 <MTughan> Essentially.

23:59 <PovAddict> like all those "alternate DNS roots"?

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