IRC logs of #boinc for Monday, 2009-05-04

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04:19 <CoderForLife> &more

04:19 <Romulus> CoderForLife: lower 70s. East winds around 5 mph.;

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04:42 <CoderForLife> http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/an-invention-that-could-change-the-internet-for-ever-1678109.html

04:42 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/cuhrej> (at www.independent.co.uk)

04:48 <ELGono> yea really looking forward to wolfram alpha

04:48 <ELGono> heard a report on that last month and it really got my attention

04:49 <Tank_Master> never heard of it b4

04:50 <ELGono> yea it just came out a dark corner surprisingly

04:50 <Tank_Master> probably a good thing

04:50 <Tank_Master> so google doesnt buy it and mess it up

04:50 <ELGono> but sounds auspicious  

04:50 <Tank_Master> sounds like what ask.com claimed to do with it first came out

04:51 <ELGono> hehe but i love the style of wolfram

04:51 <CoderForLife> me too

04:51 <Tank_Master> :)

04:52 <ELGono> like... i don't care about the big ones... we just need improvements for everybody

04:53 <Tank_Master> big ones for everyone!

04:53 <CoderForLife> http://semanticuniverse.com/blogs-doug-lenat-i-was-positively-impressed-wolfram-alpha.html

04:53 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/cj63u9> (at semanticuniverse.com)

04:54 <ELGono> the radio report i heard told a bit about his skillz ... he did wolfram mathematika as well

04:55 <ELGono> a standard software for engineers and such folks

04:55 <ELGono> and alpha developtment team wasn't that big as well

05:01 <CoderForLife> I have Mathematica

05:01 * CoderForLife beats on his C compiler

05:03 <ELGono> i could shoot at bibtex messing up texnics center

05:03 <ELGono> leaving blank logfile and visual c++ runtime error message

05:04 <CoderForLife> were you satisfied with my comments yesterday ELGono?

05:04 <ELGono> sure thanx don

05:04 <CoderForLife> k

05:04 <ELGono> sorry forgot to answer on that ;)

05:04 <ELGono> was bedtime then

05:04 * CoderForLife grins and nods

05:05 <ELGono> still sounds a bit inhibited

05:05 <ELGono> but it's just for library catalogue listening

05:05 <CoderForLife> what kind of claim do you want to make?

05:06 <CoderForLife> "by using our technique, VR will be bigger than Google"

05:07 <ELGono> hehe well actually it has to come out, that this thesis set up the basis for a further use of FASP for scenario of driving simulations

05:07 <CoderForLife> then say that

05:08 <CoderForLife> you could also say it's fun, too

05:08 <ELGono> and this is due the requirements catalog and the now driveable simulation model

05:08 <CoderForLife> you could also say it's fun, too

05:10 <ELGono> hehe german engineers don't know the meaning of phun

05:10 <ELGono> at least it seems this way

05:10 <ELGono> hehe

05:10 <CoderForLife> lol

05:11 <CoderForLife> VW in da haus

05:12 <ELGono> some of my fellow students work at VW now

05:12 <ELGono> or did practica there ..... no phun at all

05:12 <ELGono> friend of mine workz for audi

05:13 <ELGono> justin timberlake visited him fews weeks ago ... to test the car hifi of his new Q7

05:13 <CoderForLife> the TV commercials here were fun

05:13 <ELGono> he came in, turned up the volume to max .... and says sounds crappy

05:13 <ELGono> no german would turn up the volume to max

05:14 <CoderForLife> what?!  I can't hear you!!

05:14 <ELGono> or better saying no german engineer

05:15 <ELGono> they don't think of drunk people just want to listen to LOUD music hehehe wich is a phun aspekt

05:15 <ELGono> see

05:15 <CoderForLife> I'm going to go get ready for w@#% - bbiab

05:16 <ELGono> laterz don .... heading to campus soon

05:16 <CoderForLife> k  tc

05:59 <CoderForLife> off into The Wild - business dinner tonight - so...  much laterz

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06:16 <wdsmia> &more

06:16 <Romulus> wdsmia: after midnight. Low in the lower 50s. South wind 5 to 10 mph. Chance of precipitation 20 percent.; Tuesday - Mostly cloudy. A slight chance of showers and isolated thunderstorms in the morning...then a chance of thunderstorms in the afternoon. High in the lower 70s. South wind 10 to 20 mph. Chance of precipitation 50 percent.;

06:26 <hawmps> 'l0

06:28 <hawmps> Hasselhoff hospitalised for alcohol poisoning -- again

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08:38 <ELGono> http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg71278.html

08:38 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/dnlrj8> (at www.mail-archive.com)

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09:00 <ELGono> hehe this is phun too

09:00 <ELGono> http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg71278.html

09:00 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/dnlrj8> (at www.mail-archive.com)

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10:52 <PovAddict> ELGono: same link both times

11:01 <ELGono> http://img.ffffound.com/static-data/assets/6/cd350fd4fb57a7181a5e9d9f50d3a7c3600c6e04_m.gif

11:02 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/2n3vku> (at img.ffffound.com)

11:38 <Tank_Master> [B^S]renemayer's exit message sounds like a reference for a hooker

11:39 <PovAddict> that's why it clarifies "IM" :)

11:39 <Tank_Master> :)

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12:06 <Tank_Master> http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=91114

12:06 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/c2sjnu> (at www.worldnetdaily.com)

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12:47 <Nickuwo> if Im using create_work to create a wu with no input file do i just pass null for if Im using create_work to create a wu with no input file do i just pass null for the path and 0 for ninput?

12:47 <Nickuwo> whoops

12:47 <Nickuwo> wtf

12:47 <Tank_Master> lol

12:47 <Nickuwo> if Im using create_work to create a wu with no input file do i just pass null for the path and 0 for ninput?

12:47 <Nickuwo> there we go

12:47 <Nickuwo> :)

12:48 <Nickuwo> cause that doesnt work...

12:49 <Tank_Master> how do you create null work?

12:50 <Nickuwo> i just dont have input files for my wus

12:53 <Tank_Master> just sounds funny

12:53 <Tank_Master> :)

12:54 <Nickuwo> thats true

12:58 <mweltin> first beer of the season is in the keg.

12:58 <mweltin> turned out GREAT if I say so myself.

12:58 <Tank_Master> congratz

12:58 <Tank_Master> lol

12:58 <mweltin> thanks

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13:18 <Tank_Master> upp, yoyo is here, bed time

13:18 <yoyo[RKN]> lol

13:19 <Tank_Master> :)

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14:03 <PovAddict> <ToddJG> nice iPhone app, you give it your location and it oinks everytime a case [of swine flu] is reported near you

14:05 <Tank_Master> gaa

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17:01 <zombie67> ramsey is sending out work

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17:28 <wdsmia> re-hi

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18:09 <mweltin1> PovAddict: you use git right?

18:10 <PovAddict> I used to use Subversion, now I use Mercurial

18:10 <mweltin1> ok

18:10 <mweltin1> thanks

18:19 <Nickuwo> whats that linux command that tells you if an app is 86 or 64?

18:19 <PovAddict> file

18:19 <Nickuwo> sweet

18:20 <Nickuwo> thx

18:20 <PovAddict> it can also tell you how long a video file is and lots of other fancy things :)

18:20 <PovAddict> sometimes it can even detect the *natural* language of a text file

18:20 <Nickuwo> that is fancy

18:20 <PovAddict> "ASCII English text"

18:20 <PovAddict> (uses word frequency)

18:21 <PovAddict> it seems it doesn't know about C#... I once tried it on two C# files I had written, it detected one as C++ and another as Java :D

18:22 <Nickuwo> well, at least it's kinda close

18:24 <Nickuwo> MTughan: ping

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18:52 <MTughan> 'lo Nickuwo

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19:18 <zombie67> i need help

19:18 <bigt0242000> with?

19:18 <Romulus> Rumor has it with is with XP64, bigt0242000

19:18 <zombie67> I tried to go back to 6.2.18 from 6.6.26, OSX

19:19 <zombie67> it locked up, and I had to force quit

19:19 <Tank_Master> wtf rommie?

19:19 <bigt0242000> lol

19:19 <zombie67> BOINC won't run, obviously

19:19 <zombie67> I tried to reinstall 6.6.26

19:19 <zombie67> no luck...installer locks

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19:19 <Tank_Master> upgrade to win7 :P

19:20 <zombie67> tried to again install 6.2, installer locks

19:20 <bigt0242000> I don't have a mac so i can't help

19:20 <zombie67> and when I run the ininstaller, it tells me I will lose all my work

19:20 <zombie67> it doesn't do that with WIN

19:20 <zombie67> so I am wondering if it really will delete all my work?  Or just uninstall the app?

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19:22 <PovAddict> if it says it will delete your work, believe it

19:23 <zombie67> On this last install attempt, a pop-up error tells me there is a permissions problem with one of the slots

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19:24 <zombie67> when a task checkpoints, where is it saved?  slot or projects?

19:24 <PovAddict> app-dependent

19:24 <PovAddict> usually slot

19:25 <PovAddict> but apps may "progressively" create the output file instead of copying it to project dir only when they finish

19:25 <PovAddict> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/newticket?summary=BOINC%20lacks%20a%20Do%20What%20I%20Mean%20button

19:25 <zombie67> well crap

19:25 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/d2z7ng> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

19:25 <zombie67> so how am I supposed to fix this?  I have about 8 CPDN tasks all partially complete

19:26 <PovAddict> go to the mailing lists, Cc to Charlie Fenton to make sure he seesi t

19:26 <PovAddict> sees it*

19:27 <zombie67> guh

19:27 <zombie67> hate the mailing lists

19:28 <zombie67> why would the osx uninstaller remove tasks, when the Win version doesn't?

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19:29 <PovAddict> different design decisions and not enough communication between developers :)

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19:29 <Romulus> WB, Boss

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19:29 <Tank_Master> gee, sounds like the government

19:31 <zombie67> I have a backup from last night

19:31 <PovAddict> backup?

19:31 <Romulus> Somebody said backup is R on the stick... You only use it to get out of a situation, PovAddict

19:31 <PovAddict> time machine?

19:31 <zombie67> what about copying the whole /Library/Application Support/BOINC from the backup to the active folder?

19:32 <zombie67> no, SuperDuper

19:32 <PovAddict> that may work, if SuperDuper keeps permissions

19:32 <PovAddict> anyway, installer locking up is a bug that should be fixed

19:32 <zombie67> worst case is it just recrunches work already completed, right?

19:32 <PovAddict> no matter what causes it

19:33 <zombie67> right?

19:33 <PovAddict> right

19:33 <PovAddict> backup the existing (non-working) BOINC dir first

19:33 <zombie67> okay, I will give it a go.  brb

19:34 <PovAddict> so you can go back to this (broken) state again if needed

19:41 <xcamel> OMG!!

19:41 <xcamel> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqHrCLt3Geo

19:41 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Rendezvous in paris (at www.youtube.com)

19:41 <xcamel> hang on..

19:41 <Tank_Master> o0

19:42 <PovAddict> "This video isn't available in your country"

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19:42 <Tank_Master> works fine for me

19:42 <xcamel> sucks2BU

19:43 <Tank_Master> agreed

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19:50 <Tank_Master> are there no cops in paris?

19:50 <zombie67> no love

19:50 <Tank_Master> :P

19:50 <zombie67> still getting permission error when I try to start BOINC, and cannot reinstall it

19:50 <Tank_Master> sounds like its time to format and reinstall

19:51 <zombie67> is there a way to delete just certain jobs/slots?

19:51 <Tank_Master> does the mac even allow for the?

19:51 <zombie67> the what?

19:51 <Tank_Master> or is againce the holy grail of the apple ideoligy?

19:51 <Tank_Master> formating the HD the OS is on

19:51 <Tank_Master> :P

19:51 <zombie67> sure, you can do it

19:51 <Tank_Master> (kidding of corse)

19:51 <Tank_Master> ill brb

19:52 <zombie67> no reason to now, the OS is not a problem

19:52 <zombie67> I am thinking the problem is with the DD tasks

19:52 <zombie67> blow them out somehow and retry

19:53 <zombie67> but I need to know if it is as simple as just deleting the slots?

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19:57 <zombie67> Ding!  I was right

19:57 <zombie67> removed the slots with the DD tasks, and it started right up.

20:01 <Tank_Master> :)

20:01 <CoderForLife> greetings

20:01 <zombie67> I think it has something to do with DD slots having subdirs

20:01 <xcamel> hola

20:01 <Tank_Master> wb

20:02 <CoderForLife> thx

20:02 <CoderForLife> dinner didn't go as late as I feared

20:02 <CoderForLife> we had reservations at 6 instead of 7

20:02 <xcamel> much yummy?

20:03 <CoderForLife> http://www.vincenzos.net/

20:03 <Romulus> Title: Vincenzo's Ristorante Italiano (at www.vincenzos.net)

20:04 <xcamel> bellissimo

20:05 <CoderForLife> lol  si

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20:05 <CoderForLife> we had #19 on the wine list

20:05 <CoderForLife> that was good

20:05 <PovAddict> bah

20:05 <PovAddict> I couldn't type

20:05 <PovAddict> I spent ten minutes trying to figure out what X application had grabbed the keyboard and hanged

20:06 <PovAddict> after closing every single app, then closing the KDE session, and being unable to type my password on the login screen, I found the problem:

20:06 <PovAddict> keyboard cable

20:06 <Tank_Master> LOL

20:06 <zombie67> [16:57]  <zombie67> Ding!  I was right

20:06 <zombie67> [16:57]  <zombie67> removed the slots with the DD tasks, and it started right up.

20:06 <Tank_Master> thats suposed to be the first thing you check

20:07 <zombie67> "is it plugged in?"

20:07 <xcamel> no porccini?

20:07 <PovAddict> I did move it a bit, and still didn't work

20:08 <PovAddict> cable must be bad inside

20:08 <zombie67> I got some Ramsey tasks

20:09 <zombie67> but cannot connect to return them

20:09 <zombie67> and my account page says I have none

20:09 <CoderForLife> online menus are a bit different than the ristorante

20:09 <CoderForLife> I saw some LHC work earlier

20:09 <PovAddict> zombie67: then they had some server problem?

20:09 <PovAddict> CoderForLife: o rly? LHC?

20:09 <CoderForLife> indeed

20:09 <CoderForLife> about 4 hours ago

20:09 <xcamel> it was gone too fast..

20:10 <PovAddict> indeed

20:10 <CoderForLife> one of my machines doing my app got some and split the CPUs between mine and LHC

20:12 <zombie67> I got 2 LHC tasks

20:12 <xcamel> My buddy Enzo makes a creamy Venice style lasagna with fresh porccini mushrooms

20:12 * PovAddict thinks he never tried lasagna

20:12 <CoderForLife> you have a nice friend

20:13 <xcamel> he has the little restaurant a couple streets over from my house in mx

20:14 <CoderForLife> your friend lives far away

20:15 <CoderForLife> time to sit with the wife and talk - bbl

20:15 <Tank_Master> hf

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21:14 <PovAddict> quiet

21:16 <xcamel> yup

21:26 <zombie67> BOO!

21:26 <xcamel> eh?

21:26 <zombie67> you wanted less quiet, yes?

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22:02 <efc> moo

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23:41 <jasong> I need some quick help with something, look at this link and tell me if you see any articles dated after Friday

23:41 <jasong> http://www.theinquirer.net/

23:41 <Romulus> Title: THE INQUIRER - Microprocessor, Server, Memory, PCS, Graphics, Networking, Storage (at www.theinquirer.net)

23:42 <jasong> When I refresh the page, it still just has stuff from Friday, but there should almost certainly be Monday articles by now, unless the UK is having some sort of holiday today

23:42 <jasong> I'm thinking my ISP may need to recache the page or something

23:43 * jasong hopes that sentence made sense

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23:55 * jasong would still appreciate a click and a comment :)

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