IRC logs of #boinc for Saturday, 2009-05-09

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01:39 <CoderForLife> this sleep thing is overrated

01:39 <MTughan> lol

01:40 <CoderForLife> morning Michael

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01:47 <efc> moo

01:47 <MTughan> 'lo efc

01:54 <zombie67> MT?  still awake?

01:54 <MTughan> Yep.

01:55 <zombie67> nice

02:00 <Tank_Master> hey

02:00 <Tank_Master> p0rn is not overrated

02:00 <BrandonWilson> i like gay porn

02:00 <Tank_Master> o0

02:01 <Tank_Master> gay is in lezbefriends?

02:01 <Tank_Master> as*

02:01 <zombie67> porn keeps the internet in business

02:01 <Tank_Master> LOL

02:01 <Tank_Master> to true

02:01 <zombie67> keeps the costs down for the rest of us

02:01 <Tank_Master> true

02:01 <Tank_Master> and the speeds higher

02:02 <Tank_Master> oh shyt

02:02 <Tank_Master> I passed 10m credies!

02:02 <Tank_Master> http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_user_graph.php?pr=bo&id=8f3058b9437a14c91dc2adc9cf5b3c78

02:02 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/obn3gj> (at boincstats.com)

02:03 <Tank_Master> woot! go me!!

02:03 <Tank_Master> hehe

02:03 <zombie67> w00t!

02:03 <zombie67> funny

02:04 <zombie67> when I started to get serious about boinc, still with Team MacNN, you were my target.  You always beat me in EVERY project!

02:04 <zombie67> I was so frustrated

02:04 <Tank_Master> back then I had 30 P3s to

02:04 <zombie67> yeah, well now I know

02:05 <Tank_Master> now I got an atom, a quad and a dual

02:05 <CoderForLife> brb  emergency snack

02:05 <Tank_Master> not much

02:05 <Tank_Master> ok

02:05 <zombie67> but back then, it seemed like we had similar power and project interests, and I always ended up on the losing end

02:05 <Tank_Master> lol

02:06 <Tank_Master> yeah, Im not so gunho on crunching every project anymroe

02:06 <zombie67> *I* still am

02:06 <Tank_Master> yeah, well,l *you* have 50 quad core or better comps...

02:06 <Tank_Master> U*

02:06 <zombie67> kevint is going to eventually take all my mega milestones away from me.  But not without a fight!

02:06 <Tank_Master> he sure likes those ATI cards

02:07 <zombie67> me?  Hah!  Not hardly

02:07 <Tank_Master> just hope putting all his eggs into the ATI basket wont bite him later on

02:08 <zombie67> I have about 15 win PCs, 6 are dual, 3 are quad, 3 are octos, and one is a 4/8 xeon.

02:08 <zombie67> yeah, I am concerned about that too.

02:08 <zombie67> if he gets burnt too badly....

02:08 <Tank_Master> he shure put a lot of $$ into that

02:08 <zombie67> is power bill must run several thousand $$

02:08 <zombie67> his

02:09 <zombie67> per month

02:09 <Tank_Master> yeah

02:09 <Tank_Master> I wonder how meny credis these new ions will give out

02:09 <zombie67> I am around 1.5 for everything

02:10 <Tank_Master> atom 330, dual channle ddr2, geforce 9400m

02:10 <zombie67> including household stuff

02:10 <zombie67> i saw that

02:10 <zombie67> 9400?  That's cuda!

02:10 <Tank_Master> yep

02:10 <zombie67> but too slow for gpugrid

02:10 <Tank_Master> I can get about 1.125k off my atom with dual channle ddr2 running 64bit ABC

02:11 <zombie67> brb, need to drain the mule

02:11 <Tank_Master> SETI would run on it though

02:11 <MTughan> Holy crap, that's big... http://download.intel.com/pressroom/kits/idffall_2006/ic2q_rgb_1670.jpg

02:11 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/qcyk32> (at download.intel.com)

02:11 <Tank_Master> lol

02:11 <Tank_Master> wtf

02:12 <Tank_Master> why did they make it so big?

02:12 <MTughan> I was looking for a C2Q badge for a personalized boot screen. I got more than I bargained for. :P

02:12 <MTughan> Maybe for print. I don't know.

02:12 <Tank_Master> hehe

02:12 <MTughan> I definitely don't have to worry about size though...

02:13 <MTughan> I mean, the boot image is going to be a squished 640x480 image.

02:13 <Tank_Master> true

02:13 <zombie67> back

02:13 <zombie67> back

02:13 <zombie67> oh

02:14 <MTughan> You thought the logo was big... http://download.intel.com/pressroom/kits/press/core2/Core2Quad-gry_bkgd.jpg

02:14 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/pleu7v> (at download.intel.com)

02:14 <eagles0513875> what yall on bout

02:14 <MTughan> I can see the tool marks on that thing.

02:14 <zombie67> i had a seti cuda app running on my 9400 (pci) for 48 hours.  what a waste

02:15 <Tank_Master> why was it a waste?

02:15 <zombie67> not the fault of the card....crap app

02:15 <MTughan> Holy crap... For the C2E extreme processors, they have TIFF files... 27MB.

02:15 <zombie67> it was a wast because I had to kill it

02:15 <Tank_Master> ahh

02:16 <zombie67> waste

02:16 <zombie67> it was wedged

02:16 <Tank_Master> you still use the card?

02:25 <zombie67> http://www.setiusa.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=14023&start=0

02:25 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/q6xce6> (at www.setiusa.net)

02:25 <Tank_Master> heh

02:25 <Tank_Master> gee, thx :P

02:26 <Tank_Master> sad thing is I have about the same rac now as when I worked

02:26 <Tank_Master> and had 35 P3s, and 12 P4s

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02:27 <zombie67> SIMAP says even though they have way more work now, every month it takes much less time to crunch

02:27 <zombie67> CPUs are SO much faster

02:30 <Tank_Master> yeah they are

02:31 <Tank_Master> and only getting faster

02:31 <Tank_Master> this fall we may see 6 core come out

02:31 <zombie67> i recall AGONIZING over a 386 vs 486 (something) vs 486 (something)

02:31 <Tank_Master> SX/DX

02:32 <zombie67> the 386 was faster than the 486 sx for some things

02:32 <Tank_Master> the DX had the math coprocessor built in

02:32 <zombie67> but the dx was faster than both, but WAY more expensive

02:32 <zombie67> right

02:32 <Tank_Master> which is why it screamed

02:32 <zombie67> finally went with a mac.

02:32 <zombie67> ;)

02:33 <Tank_Master> lol

02:34 <zombie67> those DELL commercial on the back of every PC mag were VERY Enticing!

02:35 <Tank_Master> :)

02:36 <zombie67> I used to crunch the numbers over and over, weighing options....like buying a car.  Which is almost what they cost at the time

02:37 <Tank_Master> yep

02:37 <Tank_Master> I remember forking over $250 for my 10GB HD

02:37 <zombie67> a car cost 4-7k, a PC loaded was about 2-3k

02:37 <Tank_Master> I still kick myself for getting rid of my 130MB HD

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02:38 <zombie67> I was shlepping 85mb 9" rack mounted drives in the stock room at the time.

02:38 <efc> I would calculate the $$/fps in quake for each processor..

02:39 <Tank_Master> hehe

02:39 <zombie67> quake?  in 87?

02:39 <zombie67> hah!

02:40 <zombie67> I recall my mom showing me the new winchester removable platters when I was in my teens

02:40 <efc> in 87, i was staring at the back of the tandy catalog

02:41 <zombie67> as a small kid, I would go into work with my mom on the weekends.  Computer room.  cold!  I got the slop punch cards to draw on.

02:41 <efc> at the $5,000 386s hehe

02:41 <Tank_Master> lol@punchcards

02:42 <zombie67> ever see the simpsons with apu's college project?

02:42 <Tank_Master> no

02:43 <efc> Tandy 5000 MC Professional System -- 20 MHz 386

02:44 <efc> Way too expensive for me

02:46 <efc> heh, it was $8500

02:47 <efc> Yep this was it!  http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/3303/120dr3.jpg

02:47 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/2pmcf4> (at img150.imageshack.us)

02:47 <eagles0513875> can someone answer a question for me

02:48 <eagles0513875> im on 6.4.5 and gpugrid still showing as i dont have any gpu

02:48 <eagles0513875> should i remove the packaged back end

02:49 <CoderForLife> I paid $3600 for the Mac SE with internal HD  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_SE

02:49 <Romulus> Title: Macintosh SE - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)

02:50 <CoderForLife> had to take out a loan

02:50 <efc> We had one of those at school, or one that looked just like it

02:51 <efc> wouldn't let kids near it for a while

02:51 <efc> one mac in a room of apple ][s

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02:52 <efc> eagles: don't know :( Not a cuda user here

02:52 <zombie67> I spent $3600 for am quadra with 16mb, and felt like a god

02:53 <Tank_Master> hehe

02:53 <CoderForLife> indeed - I always wore a white lab coat when using my Mac

02:53 <Tank_Master> my dad got a comidor64 witha 2MB ram card thats bigger than any video card out today

02:53 <zombie67> ah!  sx/dx was 16 vs. 32 bit

02:54 <zombie67> and that is why the 386 beat the 486 sx sometimes

02:54 <efc> the 486sx was 32 bit with no FPU

02:54 <efc> I thought

02:54 <efc> the 386sx was a 386 with a 16 bit external bus

02:55 <zombie67> right

02:55 <efc> I don't recall whether it made any difference in apps of the time

02:55 <zombie67> it was the 286 that was 61 bit

02:55 <zombie67> 16

02:55 <efc> Yeah

02:56 <efc> Mostly, anyway

02:56 <zombie67> slowly coming bac

02:56 <zombie67> k

02:56 <efc> the 8086 was too, I think, with the 8088 being part 8 bit I think

02:56 <zombie67> All early 486SX chips were actually i486DX chips with a defective FPU. If testing showed that the central processing unit was working but the FPU was defective, the FPU's power and bus connections were destroyed with a laser and the chip was sold cheaper as an SX; if the FPU worked it was sold as a DX.

02:56 <eagles0513875> zombie67: the q9550 with 12mb is amazing performance wise

02:56 <eagles0513875> pair that with duel channel you cant go wrong

02:57 <eagles0513875> and my rig cost me 1,800 thats including monitor the whole works

02:57 <Tank_Master> I have a 9750

02:57 <zombie67> why am I being sold to?

02:57 <Tank_Master> that I got for free

02:57 <efc> i hadn't looked at that 12gig platform lately, hopefully the price came down..

02:57 <eagles0513875> Tank_Master: xtreme version

02:57 <Tank_Master> qx, yes

02:58 <Tank_Master> I can get the qx9770 with mobo and heatsink for $600 from a friend

02:58 <Tank_Master> 1600FSB

02:59 <eagles0513875> over priced

02:59 <eagles0513875> for those

02:59 <Tank_Master> o0?

02:59 <eagles0513875> there is only a vry minor diff which i cant remember in my hung over state atm

02:59 <Tank_Master> cpu retails for over $1000

03:00 <Tank_Master> the 9770 has a 1600 fsb, the 9550 has a 1333 fsb

03:00 <eagles0513875> is there that much of a performance diff between the 2

03:00 <eagles0513875> and what do the new i7s have fsb wise

03:01 <Tank_Master> they dont have a fsb

03:01 <Tank_Master> they are like AMD, with the hypertransport (though they call it different)

03:01 <Tank_Master> the memory controler is on chip

03:02 <Tank_Master> and soon, so will the PCI-E controler

03:02 <zombie67> o really? (he asks innocently)

03:02 <eagles0513875> that explains the kiler octal core proc

03:02 <Tank_Master> which part?

03:03 <Tank_Master> only the xeon has the octi-core

03:03 <Tank_Master> intel isnt gonna release the octi-core for the desktop

03:03 <MTughan> Maybe he's referring to the emulated octa-core.

03:03 <Tank_Master> oh, hyperthreading?

03:04 <Tank_Master> perhaps

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03:05 <eagles0513875> dont i7s have hyperthreading again though

03:05 <eagles0513875> lol

03:06 <eagles0513875> from what i see they all have ht

03:06 <MTughan> Yes, they do.

03:06 <MTughan> So while they're all quad-cores, Windows sees 8 cores and will run 8 threads.

03:06 <Tank_Master> makes for a happy boinc

03:07 <eagles0513875> man i wanna try linux on one

03:07 <eagles0513875> anyways later all

03:07 <Tank_Master> gn

03:07 <MTughan> What do people think? http://mtughan.dyndns.org:8888/takanuva.png

03:08 <Tank_Master> ati?

03:08 <Romulus> I guess ati is paying for itself atleast :), Tank_Master

03:08 <Tank_Master> ewww

03:08 <Tank_Master> oh stfu rommie

03:08 <MTughan> At the time, for the price I was paying, it was either an ATI HD4870 or a Nvidia 9800GTX+.

03:08 <zombie67> is that a klingon thingie?

03:08 <eagles0513875> what i dont get is im using 2 cores for some seti astropulse sets and its gonna take over 180 hrs to complete

03:09 <eagles0513875> heheh dont get me started lol

03:09 <eagles0513875> researchers came up with a cloaking device will link later

03:09 <Tank_Master> long dataset, eagles0513875

03:09 <zombie67> you are using only a single thread for any boinc task

03:09 <efc> http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/05/08/169226&from=rss

03:09 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/omc6hf> (at tech.slashdot.org)

03:09 <efc> R.I.P. MS-DEBUG 1981 - 2009

03:09 <eagles0513875> zombie67: thing is if i dont i have some really high cpu temps not to mention using 240 volts through psu raises internal case temps

03:10 <zombie67> point:  BOINC tasks are not multi-threaded

03:11 <CoderForLife> got version 12 of my app running on about a dozen CPUs here,  time to revisit the bed

03:11 <CoderForLife> re-gn

03:11 <zombie67> if you have 4 threads and/ort CPUs, each task will use only one

03:12 <Tank_Master> wtf is msdebug?

03:12 <Tank_Master> sounds like a dos command

03:12 <zombie67> wtf is <m ?

03:12 <MTughan> "Over the years, people have been using MS-DEBUG for writing code (virus/malware, you name it) and debugging."

03:12 <zombie67> L?

03:12 <MTughan> zombie67: Mushkin.

03:13 <zombie67> explain further

03:13 <efc> i dissassembled a virus with it once

03:13 <MTughan> It's my RAM manufacturer.

03:13 <efc> but didn't learn that much

03:13 <zombie67> ah

03:13 <zombie67> are these guys paying you to advertise for them?

03:13 <MTughan> No.

03:13 <zombie67> and that is a klingon thingy

03:14 <MTughan> What is?

03:14 <zombie67> the curved two-handed pizza cutter

03:14 <MTughan> Oh, that thing...

03:14 <MTughan> He's a character from the Bionicle Lego series, who I named the computer after.

03:15 <MTughan> Don't know anything about Klingons.

03:15 <zombie67> MT, and self-respecting omputer nerd MUST take a trip to mecca...in this case trek

03:16 <MTughan> I've never been a trekkie. Always preferred Star Wars.

03:16 <zombie67> star wars is good.  but a western...not scifi

03:16 <zombie67> anywho

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03:16 <zombie67> gn

03:16 <Tank_Master> gn

03:16 <MTughan> Night.

03:16 <Tank_Master> im about to go to

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03:35 <eagles0513875> im a treek like no other

03:36 <Tank_Master> I thought u were going to bed?

03:40 <eagles0513875> going out im in central europe

03:41 <eagles0513875> ill be back from another location

03:42 <eagles0513875> like this discussion of computers going on in here

03:42 <eagles0513875> be back in bout 20 30 min

03:55 <MTughan> http://mtughan.dyndns.org:8888/takanuva.png Modified a bit.

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04:18 <|eagles051387|> im back

04:18 <|eagles051387|> Tank_Master: waht were we talking bout before

04:18 <FreeLarry58> well now to find out how badly f10 is after the fsck work

04:19 <FreeLarry58> assuming it will boot that is

04:19 <|eagles051387|> FreeLarry58: what distro

04:19 <FreeLarry58> fedora 10 x86_64

04:19 <|eagles051387|> good luck with that

04:19 <|eagles051387|> im on kubuntu

04:19 <|eagles051387|> on all 3 machines of mine

04:20 <|eagles051387|> rather customized fersion of it on this lapotp

04:20 <FreeLarry58> yeah it was on fedora 8 but mb went bad and couldn't find disk to get to reboot

04:20 <|eagles051387|> kubuntu is kinda like fedora to a degree these days

04:21 <FreeLarry58> fedora 10 on 2 machines fedora 8 one machine vista one machine xp pro 64 on 3 machines and xp pro 32 on 2

04:22 <|eagles051387|> just got rid of vista on my monster desktop

04:22 <|eagles051387|> and hate to say this xp pro x64 is horrible

04:22 <|eagles051387|> i had vista 64bit on my desktop

04:22 <FreeLarry58> humm wonder how long the hd activity going to go before it gets past the progress bar

04:22 <FreeLarry58> may have to completely reinstall as a lot of the libs got corrupted and cleared

04:22 <|eagles051387|> try out kubuntu

04:23 <FreeLarry58> have had no problems with xp pro 64 on the machines that its on

04:23 <|eagles051387|> interesting

04:23 <FreeLarry58> vista 64 - was a pain but finally figured out that the mb was bad and now stable

04:23 <|eagles051387|> when i used it it was a nightmare for me games wise

04:24 <|eagles051387|> games locked up a rig i got back in usa really badly

04:24 <FreeLarry58> ahhh games - had to add a second language on one and set it to treat non unicode as that language

04:24 <|eagles051387|> lol

04:25 <|eagles051387|> ya civ4 locked it up badly just bout every game i had

04:25 <FreeLarry58> after that most of the games ran nicely

04:25 <|eagles051387|> now im able to play one of my games that i play most on kubuntu with wine

04:25 <|eagles051387|> interesting didnt know that at the time

04:25 <|eagles051387|> gave up on it and ran kubuntu 64bit

04:25 <FreeLarry58> humm haven't tried that one - most ot the games i was having trouble with originally made for japanese

04:25 <|eagles051387|> whats so great bout fc10

04:26 <FreeLarry58> have tried to do wine but still haven't been able to get it right

04:26 <|eagles051387|> they are testing 1.1.20

04:26 <|eagles051387|> but 1.0.1 plays the game i want and even pre version 1.0 as well did

04:26 <FreeLarry58> great? not sure just newest and had the chipset instructions for the boards i have

04:26 <|eagles051387|> also hopefully at some point dx10 support

04:26 <|eagles051387|> for games like crysis

04:27 <|eagles051387|> also virtual dj which i use to dj actually works with sound

04:27 <|eagles051387|> never had sound with wine before

04:27 <FreeLarry58> humm may have to kill the boot up as still on end of progress bar and hd light still on

04:28 <|eagles051387|> not sure what kinda specs you got but if you dont want a resource hog distro kubuntu is worth a shot if you like kde ubuntu for gnome and xubuntu for xfce

04:28 <FreeLarry58> will give it another 10 minutes or soo

04:28 <|eagles051387|> found my distro back when i started college

04:28 <|eagles051387|> cant migrate away form it

04:28 <|eagles051387|> kubuntu addict

04:28 <FreeLarry58> e6750 4 gig ram p5q mb 1.5 TB between 2 750 gig hds

04:29 <|eagles051387|> nice

04:29 <|eagles051387|> speaking of 1.5tb need to buy an external drive

04:29 <FreeLarry58> for machine i got troubles with

04:29 <|eagles051387|> need one badly

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04:29 <|eagles051387|> the one that your trying to boot fedora on what are the specs outa curiosity

04:29 <FreeLarry58> lol put a 1 TB in last machine i did i7 940 with 12 gig ram p6t mb

04:30 <FreeLarry58> first machine

04:30 <|eagles051387|> droooooooooooooooooolllllllllllll

04:30 <|eagles051387|> i have a q9550 which is i wouldnt be suprised was the bases for the i7s

04:30 <|eagles051387|> same amount of cache on i7s and all

04:31 <|eagles051387|> difference is ht for an additional 4 cores and something about something else being on the chip

04:31 <FreeLarry58> yeah think so do the q9550 do HT also

04:31 <|eagles051387|> no

04:31 <|eagles051387|> no ht

04:31 <|eagles051387|> i have one of those with 8gb of corsair xms2 setup in duel channel

04:31 <FreeLarry58> and onboard memory routing like hyper transport

04:32 <|eagles051387|> what do you mean by onboard is it the cache

04:32 <FreeLarry58> http://dist.ist.tugraz.at/cape5/show_host_detail.php?hostid=44674

04:32 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/qt4jms> (at dist.ist.tugraz.at)

04:32 <FreeLarry58> http://dist.ist.tugraz.at/cape5/show_host_detail.php?hostid=54038

04:32 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/pgusfe> (at dist.ist.tugraz.at)

04:33 <FreeLarry58> http://dist.ist.tugraz.at/cape5/show_host_detail.php?hostid=57123

04:33 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/o2krda> (at dist.ist.tugraz.at)

04:33 <|eagles051387|> you trying to make me jealous bout your i7 lol

04:33 <FreeLarry58> last one the trouble machine

04:33 <|eagles051387|> gotcha

04:33 <FreeLarry58> well i really don't know how to use it

04:33 <FreeLarry58> jsut build them to see how they behave then set them to boinc

04:34 <|eagles051387|> i would put linux on all of them and run boinc

04:34 <|eagles051387|> dude also you can cluster them

04:34 <|eagles051387|> boinc will then pick up all cores on the clustered machines and distribute work appropriately

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04:35 <FreeLarry58> ahh fedora 10 doesn't come up - barely got to point of getting eth connections up and one of those not working

04:35 <|eagles051387|> ohhh im tempted to cluster both my desktop and my other laptop together for boinc

04:35 <FreeLarry58> change my machines around to much

04:35 <|eagles051387|> thing is one is running command line server distro ubuntu server

04:35 <|eagles051387|> change them around how

04:36 <FreeLarry58> and not smart enough to try cluster - give/sell them and build new ones

04:36 <|eagles051387|> there is a clustering channel on here

04:37 <|eagles051387|> you know much bout boinc with linux

04:37 <|eagles051387|> random question regarding it

04:37 <FreeLarry58> lol not smart enough and too many brain cells dead -- urrr will attempt boinc question

04:38 <|eagles051387|> on a command line only linux install do i just need the core client

04:38 <|eagles051387|> installed

04:38 <|eagles051387|> since im gonna cluster my 2 machines

04:38 <FreeLarry58> yes

04:38 <|eagles051387|> ok sweet

04:39 <FreeLarry58> uhhh PovAddict would be better one to ask tho

04:39 <|eagles051387|> will do

04:39 <|eagles051387|> to pxe boot or not to pxe boot  my other laptop

04:40 <FreeLarry58> looks like i will have to boot machine and upgrade the install again - hopefull didn't lose all info on it

04:41 <|eagles051387|> i dunno bout oon fedora but there was a package they have in the kubuntu repos that recovers data

04:41 <FreeLarry58> true but fsck did a lot of clearing and fixint cluster numbers

04:42 <|eagles051387|> i had more worse luck issuing the fsck command from command line breaking my install more then fixing

04:42 <|eagles051387|> now they added in init1 a list of options and fsck is one of them

04:42 <FreeLarry58> hopelfully upgrade of existing will allow full boot

04:43 <FreeLarry58> ohhh boot loader got damaged

04:43 <|eagles051387|> that should be an easy fix

04:43 <|eagles051387|> if its grub

04:43 <FreeLarry58> yeah ready for reboot

04:43 <|eagles051387|> god luck

04:43 <|eagles051387|> good

04:43 * |eagles051387| typing with a hangovr

04:44 <FreeLarry58> first one probably needs to do intervention for me

04:44 <|eagles051387|> what boot loader are you using

04:44 <FreeLarry58> ohhh much faster on progress line now to see if it comes all the way back

04:45 <FreeLarry58> think f10 uses grub or lilo

04:45 <|eagles051387|> i hope grub

04:45 <|eagles051387|> lilo is out cept probably on legacy linux machines

04:45 <|eagles051387|> can i be honest with ya

04:46 <|eagles051387|> you are taking a risk with data on an f10 box

04:46 <FreeLarry58> dang looks like a complete install going to be needed - luckliy only a couple of days wasted trying to get the machine fully back after mb replacement

04:46 <|eagles051387|> FreeLarry58: try this if you need to backup the data

04:46 <FreeLarry58> only real data was the boinc wu's and thier a loss now

04:46 <|eagles051387|> ahhh

04:46 <|eagles051387|> nm my idea then

04:47 <|eagles051387|> give kubuntu a whirle if you fancy a distro change

04:47 <FreeLarry58> other then that just a play around machine for me to try and learn a little about linux

04:47 <|eagles051387|> FreeLarry58: f10 is not a good way to start to be honest thats an experts distro

04:47 <|eagles051387|> or devs distro

04:47 <|eagles051387|> if your a novice with linux i would try something like kubuntu

04:48 <FreeLarry58> tried a long time ago and pulled half my hair out - ubuntu was what PovAddict installed on one of my machines that i sold and wasn't to bad but never did get a good feel for it

04:48 <|eagles051387|> well alot has changed in both the kde world and gnome

04:48 <FreeLarry58> full install here i come

04:48 <|eagles051387|> ubuntu has gnome 2

04:48 <|eagles051387|> kubuntu has kde 4.2.2

04:48 <|eagles051387|> 4.2.3 in testing and will probably be on the next release due out in october

04:48 <|eagles051387|> they have killer irc support channels on freenode

04:49 <FreeLarry58> hopefully this time the internet will work correctly after install

04:49 <|eagles051387|> with f10

04:49 <FreeLarry58> yeah only distro i have on hand currently

04:50 <FreeLarry58> maybe this time it will get the old 3.5 floppy installed correctly

04:50 <|eagles051387|> try out unetbootin if all your machines can usb boot you can use unetbootin to make a bootable usb live cd kinda deal

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04:52 <|eagles051387|> sry for me enthusiasm im just a huge linux  nut

04:54 <FreeLarry58> lol just an old fart here trying to muddle thru - if had enthusiastic kid (defined as anyone 20 years younger than me) would let them play with machines

04:54 <FreeLarry58> format under way - again

04:55 <|eagles051387|> 22 next week

04:55 <|eagles051387|> not that young here

04:55 <|eagles051387|> always had a things for computers

04:55 <FreeLarry58> 52 next Jan

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04:55 <|eagles051387|> working on bsc computing and information systems

04:55 <|eagles051387|> still youngin

04:56 <FreeLarry58> if i had a little more free time when i was in service may have learned a little more

04:56 <|eagles051387|> where you from

04:56 <FreeLarry58> iowa originally

04:56 <|eagles051387|> kool kool

04:56 <FreeLarry58> washington now

04:56 <|eagles051387|> tx here but studying in ccentral europe

04:56 <|eagles051387|> houston originally :)

04:56 <|eagles051387|> what branch of the military

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04:57 <FreeLarry58> humm have driven thru a couple of times on order changes

04:57 <FreeLarry58> Navy

04:57 <FreeLarry58> never made it to europe in my service time tho

04:58 <|eagles051387|> well i commend ya for what you have done for the usa :)

04:58 <FreeLarry58> middle east far east austrailia africa and micronesian islands

04:58 <|eagles051387|> nice

04:58 * |eagles051387| salutes FreeLarry58

04:59 <|eagles051387|> going back to clustering for a sec there are packages that will pick up if nodes are taken off or added to the cluster

04:59 * FreeLarry58 ducks - everytime that happened next thing FreeLarry58 knew was is head was getting hit

04:59 <|eagles051387|> ?

04:59 <FreeLarry58> service humor

04:59 <|eagles051387|> lol

04:59 <|eagles051387|> thought you had a bad experience

05:00 <FreeLarry58> good luck

05:00 <|eagles051387|> what rank were ya if you dont mind me askin

05:00 <FreeLarry58> more than a few but also some good experiences too

05:00 <FreeLarry58> E7

05:00 <|eagles051387|> :)

05:00 <|eagles051387|> ?

05:00 <FreeLarry58> Chief Petty Officer

05:01 <FreeLarry58> Enlisted rank not Officer

05:01 <|eagles051387|> not familiar with the order of ranks

05:01 <|eagles051387|> guessing thats quite up there isnt it

05:01 <FreeLarry58> E1 lowest E9 highest

05:01 <FreeLarry58> for enlisted

05:02 <FreeLarry58> WO1 to 4 for Enlisted to Officer Programs

05:02 <FreeLarry58> o1 to if remember correctly o10 for offices

05:02 <FreeLarry58> officers

05:03 <FreeLarry58> too long ago recollections getting fuzzy

05:03 <|eagles051387|> you almost at the 2 :)

05:03 <|eagles051387|> top

05:03 <|eagles051387|> bah hang over making me not type stright

05:04 <FreeLarry58> haven't had one since your age - thats when doctor told me next drunk call the morgue instead of him

05:04 <|eagles051387|> wow

05:04 <|eagles051387|> its not every day

05:04 <|eagles051387|> i going out bout once if not 2 times weekly

05:05 <FreeLarry58> whats some good software repositories

05:06 <|eagles051387|> f10 uses rpms right

05:06 <|eagles051387|> wait what desktop does it have cuz i dont use it

05:06 <FreeLarry58> it can - also yum mostly for the stuff

05:07 <FreeLarry58> going to look up rpmfusion as they have some that i need

05:07 <|eagles051387|> FreeLarry58: try www.googlc.com/linux and type in rpm repositories

05:07 <|eagles051387|> thats also hand when looking up linux stuff

05:09 <|eagles051387|> driving this poor laptop crazy with this work

05:09 <|eagles051387|> boinc work

05:10 <FreeLarry58> never mind will have to do rpmfusion the hard way again - at least i have the files needed on this machine so can get the rest easier this time

05:11 <|eagles051387|> :)

05:12 <|eagles051387|> if you need any help linux wise i can try my best to help ya out

05:12 <|eagles051387|> also besides studying for my degree working on getting linux certified

05:15 <FreeLarry58> nah just wasting some time here and getting ready for massive dl after initial install again

05:24 <|eagles051387|> ouch

05:24 <|eagles051387|> good luck

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05:24 <|eagles051387|> chalcedony: isp change is in order for you

05:25 <chalcedony> {-{-{-{-{-{-{-{{{{|eagles051387|*|eagles051387|*|eagles051387|}}}-}-}-}-}-}-}

05:25 <|eagles051387|> chalcedony: having a 2nd convo with FreeLarry58

05:25 <chalcedony> ah

05:25 <|eagles051387|> and going nuts thats why

05:25 <|eagles051387|> what kind of security measures do you have in place

05:25 <chalcedony> |eagles051387|: my son did the firewall

05:26 <|eagles051387|> iptables firewall

05:26 <|eagles051387|> does he get on irc

05:26 <|eagles051387|> or near you

05:26 <chalcedony> no, he got a job in another state

05:26 <chalcedony> and no on iptables, we used to have it.

05:27 <|eagles051387|> what kind of firewall did he put in a router firewall

05:28 <|eagles051387|> and the way that person was speaking sounds like he is a hacker of some sort

05:28 <|eagles051387|> also i would report that to the authorites show them what you pasted to me

05:31 <|eagles051387|> chalcedony: how sure are you it was a ddos attack do you have issues with the internet outside of irc

05:31 <chalcedony> of course he's a 'hacker' ..

05:31 <|eagles051387|> do you have net issues outside of irc

05:32 <chalcedony> |eagles051387|: the funny part is it doesnt take out the tv

05:32 <chalcedony> but it sure does a number on high speed internet

05:32 <|eagles051387|> damn is he on there right now

05:34 <|eagles051387|> chalcedony: ping

05:34 <chalcedony> no idea

05:34 <chalcedony> i didn't reconnect to undernet at all yet

05:35 <|eagles051387|> what room

05:35 <|eagles051387|> ill take this chance

05:35 <chalcedony> he finds me

05:35 <|eagles051387|> O_O

05:35 <|eagles051387|> what room were you in on undernet

05:35 <chalcedony> i don't see him in my channels and that's not the only nick he would use

05:35 <|eagles051387|> and what kinda data do you have on your machines any sensitive data

05:35 <chalcedony> may i point out that #wh in his whois ?

05:36 <|eagles051387|> #wh

05:36 <chalcedony> and do you understand what #wh IS?

05:36 <|eagles051387|> no i dont

05:36 <chalcedony> ok moment

05:36 <|eagles051387|> and also if you have any sensitive data i woudl take all your servers offline and unplug them form net access

05:36 <chalcedony> Romanian Hacker Faces Court in USA | IRC-Junkie.org - IRC News

05:36 <chalcedony> Faur, who is said to lead an online group named “White Hat Team” was arrested by Romanian ... IRC-Junkie.org - IRC News is proudly powered by WordPress ...

05:36 <chalcedony> www.irc-junkie.org/2007-07-03/romanian-hacker-faces-court-in-usa/

05:38 <|eagles051387|> chalcedony: hit me up in freenode sent you ping in there

05:40 <chalcedony> hm?

05:40 <|eagles051387|> chalcedony: need to let freenode staff know bout whats happening with you and this guy

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06:37 <FreeLarry58> lol i think i upset my router with this install - have to reduce my dl's on other machines for a few hours

06:38 <chalcedony> hi FreeLarry58 :)

06:39 <FreeLarry58> howdy

06:40 <FreeLarry58> last time i let fedora 10 do default install and had 1320 for install this time i have many many more to install initially

06:40 <chalcedony> ah

06:41 <FreeLarry58> selected most of items

06:41 <chalcedony> it didn't take too awfully long to do ubuntu

06:41 * FreeLarry58 is going for mass bloatware machine

06:42 <FreeLarry58> using most of my dl bandwideth for a couple of movie files currently is all

06:42 <chalcedony> ahh

06:42 * chalcedony smiles

06:42 <FreeLarry58> well time for nap as have to commute later

06:42 <FreeLarry58> &nn all

06:42 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

06:59 <xcamel> 'lo

07:08 <xcamel> &wx 12074

07:08 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 55.9F / 13.3C | Humidity: 96% | Pressure: 29.73in / 1006.7hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers with a slight chance of thunderstorms this morning...then showers and thunderstorms likely this afternoon. Some thunderstorms may produce damaging winds and small hail this afternoon. (2 more messages)

07:08 <xcamel> &more

07:08 <Romulus> xcamel: Highs in the mid 70s. South winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 60 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with showers likely with a chance of thunderstorms in the evening...then partly cloudy with scattered showers after midnight. Some thunderstorms may produce damaging winds and small hail in the evening. Lows in the upper 40s. West winds 15 to 20 mph. Gusts up to 40 mph after midnight. Chance of (1 more message)

07:08 <xcamel> &more

07:08 <Romulus> xcamel: rain 60 percent.; Sunday - Mostly cloudy in the morning...then becoming partly sunny. A 30 percent chance of showers. Windy and much cooler with highs in the upper 50s. West winds 20 to 30 mph with gusts up to 45 mph.;

07:29 <xcamel> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=coreboot_flashrom&num=1

07:29 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/d4bbog> (at www.phoronix.com)

07:29 <xcamel> Flashing Your Motherboard BIOS From The Linux Desktop

07:42 <KathrynM> http://picasaweb.google.com/ksmarkspsych/Kitten#5333787946787063842

07:42 <Romulus> Title: Picasa Web Albums - Kathryn - Kitten (at picasaweb.google.com)

07:48 <xcamel> soaking wet?

08:04 <KathrynM> after a bath

08:05 <xcamel> thought she fell in the toilet..

08:06 <KathrynM> nope.  she had dingleberries

08:06 <KathrynM> had to get them off somehow

08:07 <xcamel> yupper..

08:08 <xcamel> a little vit. e in the diet will prevent that..

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08:55 <xcamel> &quiet

08:55 <Romulus> Shhhhh... Day Sleepers

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09:03 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 45.2F / 7.3C | Humidity: 79% | Pressure: 30.01in / 1016.1hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. High in the upper 60s. Northwest wind 15 to 20 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Low in the mid 40s. West wind near 10 mph.; Sunday - Partly sunny. High in the mid 60s. Northwest wind 5 to 10 mph.;

09:07 <xcamel> 'lo Doug

09:09 <wdsmia> mornin Jay

09:10 <xcamel> no storms in your forecast

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09:12 <CoderForLife> re-hi

09:12 <xcamel> 'lo Don

09:12 <CoderForLife> hello Jay

09:13 <CoderForLife> a beautiful calm overcast coolish morning

09:13 <xcamel> ditto - a bit humid - some strong storms possible later

09:13 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

09:13 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 62.7F / 17.1C | Humidity: 94% | Pressure: 29.49in / 998.5hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy early this morning...then becoming partly sunny. Highs in the lower 70s. West winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening...then becoming mostly clear. Lows (1 more message)

09:14 <CoderForLife> &more

09:14 <Romulus> CoderForLife: in the upper 40s. Northwest winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph...diminishing to around 5 mph after midnight.; Sunday - Partly sunny. Highs in the mid 60s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph.;

09:14 <CoderForLife> looks like the rain has moved on

09:14 <CoderForLife> I didn't go to the store this morning; just wanted to sit

09:19 <xcamel> I got up too early

09:26 <CoderForLife> I was up from 1 to 3:30, then back up since 5:45

09:27 <CoderForLife> new version of my boinc app does a lot more with division underflow detection, and is running with the latest version of SQLite - unfortunately I'm getting a large number of "near division by zero" conditions

09:28 <CoderForLife> is it my Code, or the new DB version?  film at 11

09:39 <xcamel> greek to me..

09:53 <CoderForLife> certainly you remember that division by zero is not good

09:54 <CoderForLife> and the Greeks have nothing to do with it =)

09:56 <eagles0513875> FreeLarry58: yo

09:56 <eagles0513875> hey guys any idea why the linux version of boinc the latest one from the site for gpugrid its not picking up my 8800gt

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11:18 <PovAddict> MTughan: lol @ takanuva.png

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12:02 <eagles0513875> PovAddict: hey

12:02 <eagles0513875> got a question im running the latest version of boinc and for some reason gpu grid isnt picking up my cuda ready card

12:02 <eagles0513875> this is on kubuntu9.04 64bit

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12:32 <MTughan> PovAddict: Yeah, image I made for my BIOS boot screen.

12:33 <MTughan> I use that image, and then just squish it, ignore aspect ratios, to 640x480. When it's restretched out back to widescreen, it looks normal. :)

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13:05 <MTughan> http://mtughan.dyndns.org:8888/takanuva.png Probably my last edit.

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13:50 <chalcedony> hi eagles0513875 :))

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13:59 <eagles0513875> hey chalcedony mind if we take it to pm

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16:58 <PovAddict> MTughan_: you can change the BIOS boot screen?!

16:59 <PovAddict> eagles0513875: I don't know and don't care about cuda

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17:04 <MTughan> PovAddict: Yeah, there's an Asus tool I can use to change the boot screen.

17:04 <PovAddict> I'd play with that

17:05 <PovAddict> but I disabled the graphical boot screen (detailed textual messages ftw), and I haven't booted in 18 days

17:05 <MTughan> That's what I have right now.

17:05 <Tank_Master> &wx 97123

17:05 <Tank_Master> &more

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17:05 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more.  To do so, call this command with that person's nick.

17:13 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx sxf

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21:15 <efc> moo

21:16 <CoderForLife> moo

21:21 <efc> i've been sanding PVC for a few hours

21:21 <PovAddict> you've been talking about PVC for months - what are you doing?

21:22 <efc> this is part of a telescope

21:22 <efc> the tube is slightly too small at the end and i'm grinding it from the inside

21:22 <efc> it takes for stinkin ever

21:22 <CoderForLife> gn folks

21:22 <efc> night cfl

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