IRC logs of #boinc for Monday, 2009-05-11

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00:27 <zombie67> what's the news with rainbow project?

00:28 <zombie67> looks like it's been down for several days

00:30 <zombie67>

00:30 <Romulus> <> (at

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01:01 <zombie67> broke 1M at CPDN

01:08 <Tank_Master> congratz

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02:10 <FreeLarry58> well enoughs enough - will try installing vista ultimate 64 on that blamed machine to see if it gets things to w/*- correctly

02:11 * FreeLarry58 doesn't hold any hope tho

02:11 <MTughan> Win7 RC is out.

02:11 <FreeLarry58> not at stores yet - was able to get oem version of ultimate tho

02:12 <MTughan> You don't feel like reinstalling a machine when it comes out?

02:12 <FreeLarry58> welll not if its still working correctly

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02:12 <FreeLarry58> prefer to build new machine to try out

02:12 <MTughan> 'lo EiMiAR

02:16 <zombie67> running 34 tasks at a time is cool

02:17 <MTughan> ?

02:17 <FreeLarry58> must be a cluster

02:17 <zombie67> 8 CPU tasks, 25 freehal tasks, and a GPU task

02:18 <zombie67> Oh!  Plus the QCN ask

02:18 <zombie67> task

02:18 <FreeLarry58> one machine or cluster?

02:19 <MTughan> One machine apparently... I know he has some dual quad-Macs.

02:19 <zombie67> yeah, these are dual qad XP machines

02:19 <FreeLarry58> i know my i7 does 8 wu's at a time plus what ever other tasks i need

02:19 <EiMiAR> 'lo MTughan

02:20 <zombie67> I have three of those

02:21 <FreeLarry58> only one for now

02:21 <FreeLarry58> 2 q6600 tho

02:22 <MTughan> I have one Q6600 and two C2Ds.

02:23 <FreeLarry58> easier way of brag

02:23 <Romulus> <> (at

02:23 <MTughan> Not quite...

02:23 <MTughan> What's your username?

02:23 <FreeLarry58> well almost to point wher i can install chipset/mb progs

02:24 <Tank_Master> P0rnoMan

02:24 <MTughan> Heh...

02:24 <MTughan>

02:24 <Romulus> <> (at

02:24 <zombie67> that link points to our own machines

02:24 <MTughan> Those are FL's machines.

02:24 <MTughan> zombie67: Which is why I posted the second. ;)

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02:25 <EiMiAR> hey guys, I'm trying to develop my own project, what do I need to do?

02:25 <MTughan> Wow, that's a big question...

02:26 <MTughan> Top three machines there are currently active.

02:26 <Romulus> <> (at

02:26 <zombie67>

02:26 <Romulus> <> (at

02:26 <MTughan> zombie67: Your computers are hidden.

02:26 <FreeLarry58> humm shouldn't be

02:26 <MTughan> EiMiAR: There is someone here who's worked a lot with BOINC servers and can help you go through it, but he's asleep right now.

02:26 <zombie67> hah!

02:27 <zombie67> right

02:27 <EiMiAR> nickname?

02:27 <MTughan> PovAddict.

02:27 <FreeLarry58> humm will have to check settings on milky again

02:27 <sajioo> I'm installing BOINC on openSUSE... Don't have a configuration file in /etc and I get Error: Unable to initialize gtk, is DISPLAY set properly?

02:27 <MTughan> FreeLarry58: Your machines are fine, you just used the wrong link.

02:27 <EiMiAR> ok I'll ask him then, maybe this afternoon =)

02:27 <EiMiAR> thansk

02:28 <MTughan> sajioo: You're using a graphics environment with an X server?

02:28 <zombie67> my two MW machines each have a rac of 18k+ and over 800K total

02:28 <FreeLarry58> humm odd it says to show on their websit in prefs

02:28 <sajioo> Yes, GNOME.

02:28 <MTughan> My machines are currently active on WCG, so I can't really show their capabilities.

02:30 <MTughan> sajioo: Are you trying to run it as root?

02:31 <sajioo> Nah. Shouldn't I have a config file somewhere? I found a sample one on openSUSE, tho it doesn't have a display option anyway...

02:31 <MTughan> No, DISPLAY is an environment variable.

02:32 <MTughan> How are you running the manager?

02:33 <sajioo> ./run_manager

02:33 <MTughan> As what user and in what directory?

02:33 <sajioo> jack@linux-vr33:~/BOINC> ./run_manager

02:33 <sajioo> No protocol specified

02:33 <sajioo> Error: Unable to initialize gtk, is DISPLAY set properly?

02:34 <MTughan> Because, from what I'm seeing on a Google search, it's probably caused because the app's not running under the same terminal session as the X server.

02:34 <MTughan> What does "echo $DISPLAY" do?

02:35 <sajioo> Oh... : 0.0

02:36 <MTughan> Can you pastebin run_manager? Should just be a text file.

02:36 <sajioo> I'm sorry! I started gnome-terminal from Nautilus' shortcut 'cause I was lazy. I ran it from the F2 prompt and it started

02:36 <MTughan> Okay. :)

02:53 <FreeLarry58> ahh thats bad - the old 3.5 floppy drive bad

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02:54 <FreeLarry58> cant update the drivers for chipset as it want to write to them

02:54 <Tank_Master> ...

02:54 <FreeLarry58> yeah asus install wizard

02:55 <Tank_Master> whats a 3.5 floppy?

02:55 <Tank_Master> why not just d/l the drivers from asus?

02:55 <FreeLarry58> a little newer than a 5.25" floppy

02:55 <FreeLarry58> it wants to save the old files to a floppy for some reason

02:55 <Tank_Master> cant change the save directory?

02:56 <FreeLarry58> and no options given to change it currently

02:56 <Tank_Master> odd

02:56 <FreeLarry58> now i have to recover the vista install to get out of the freedos startup bit

02:56 <Tank_Master> ouch

02:56 <FreeLarry58> yeah think they hurried the things a bit to much

02:57 <FreeLarry58> will do other installs first i think

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03:49 <Tank_Master> how goes the install?

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04:36 <CoderForLife> brb  breakfast

04:48 <FreeLarry58> install going slow but getting there Tank_Master

04:49 <CoderForLife> interesting

04:49 <Romulus> Title: Astronomy Picture of the Day (at

04:49 <FreeLarry58> into utilities now

04:49 <Tank_Master> :)

04:49 <CoderForLife> &msg chanserv deop #boinc

04:49 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Are you daft?

04:50 <CoderForLife> heh

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04:50 <CoderForLife> better

04:50 <CoderForLife> with operations like that, I needed to deop

04:51 * FreeLarry58 more like wake up

04:51 <CoderForLife> true

04:52 * FreeLarry58 needs to go to bed but delaying till mb driver/util disk done

04:52 <Tank_Master> lol

04:53 <FreeLarry58> then massive update from M$ for vista on horizon

04:53 <Tank_Master> I should go to bed, but im waiting for my pillage to arrive to see how badly I spank the other guy

04:53 <FreeLarry58> warcraft?

04:55 <Tank_Master> browser game

04:55 <Tank_Master> I wiped out 1/3 his army and he took out one of my units...

04:55 <Tank_Master> :P

04:55 <Tank_Master> Attacking power: 71419.

04:55 <Tank_Master> Defence power 10087

04:56 <Tank_Master> yeah, a tad lopsided there, but its the way I like it :D

04:56 <Tank_Master> anywho, im happy, n im also off to bed

04:56 <Tank_Master> gn ye all

04:56 <FreeLarry58> lol till they figure away around you

04:56 <FreeLarry58> &nn Tank_Master

04:56 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

04:56 <Tank_Master> no, I was attacking his town

04:57 <FreeLarry58> 3 more utils

04:57 <Tank_Master> gl ;)

04:57 <FreeLarry58> ouch

05:12 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

05:12 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 55.0░F / 12.8░C | Humidity: 81% | Pressure: 29.82in / 1009.7hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy with a slight chance of showers this morning...then partly sunny this afternoon. Highs in the upper 60s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows in the (1 more message)

05:12 <CoderForLife> &more

05:12 <Romulus> CoderForLife: lower 40s. North winds 5 to 10 mph...becoming light northeast after midnight.; Tuesday - Sunny. Highs in the upper 60s. East winds around 5 mph.;

05:16 <FreeLarry58> yeesh 6.5 GB dl for vista updates on first go thru

05:19 <CoderForLife> wow

05:21 <FreeLarry58> think i'll head to bed while it w/*-s

05:21 <FreeLarry58> &nn all

05:21 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

05:51 <CoderForLife> time to get ready for w@#% - laterz

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06:01 <Romulus> <> (at

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06:22 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

06:22 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 41.3░F / 5.2░C | Humidity: 90% | Pressure: 30.20in / 1022.6hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Sunny. High around 70. North wind near 5 mph shifting to the south in the afternoon.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Low in the upper 40s. South wind 5 to 10 mph.; Tuesday - Partly sunny. A 20 percent chance of thunderstorms in the (1 more message)

06:22 <wdsmia> &more

06:22 <Romulus> wdsmia: afternoon. High in the upper 60s. South wind 10 to 15 mph increasing to around 20 mph in the afternoon. Gusts up to 30 mph.;

06:25 <hawmps> 'lo

06:25 <wdsmia> mornin Jay

06:33 <hawmps> mornin

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08:44 <KathrynM> ooooo.. .  I just got the manager to crash.

08:47 <hawmps> eh?

08:51 <KathrynM> hit the show graphics button

08:51 <KathrynM> manager crashed

08:51 <KathrynM> 6.6.20 linux x86-64

08:51 <KathrynM> Wonder if I should bother reporting it

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11:04 <KathrynM> freaking cat

11:05 <KathrynM> she's getting really close to being made into a throw rug

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11:38 <PovAddict> aww why?

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13:27 <PovAddict> Primegrid now has a Mac app

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13:38 <desti>

13:38 <Romulus> Title: NASA - Space Shuttle (at

13:39 <PovAddict> :o

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13:52 <Tank_Master> wtf is jack doing over at DD@H?

13:52 <Tank_Master> 3 sec WUs?

13:52 <MTughan> <PovAddict> Primegrid now has a Mac app

13:52 <MTughan> Wasn't made by me... Kept getting errors.

14:02 <Tank_Master> we have lift off

14:03 <Tank_Master>

14:03 <Romulus> Title: NASA - NASA TV (at

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14:07 <hawmps> good launch?

14:07 <desti> yes

14:07 <MTughan> I couldn't tell... Feed started breaking up 30 seconds before launch, got it back about 10 seconds after launch. :X

14:08 <Tank_Master> yes, so haf

14:08 <Tank_Master> far*

14:08 <Tank_Master> a transducer failed, but its not impacting anything

14:09 <Tank_Master> feed is fine for me

14:09 <MTughan> It's fine now.

14:09 <hawmps> futzed here

14:09 <Tank_Master> ahh, ok

14:09 <MTughan> Just broke up right for launch.

14:09 <Tank_Master> huh

14:10 <Tank_Master> was smoth for me from 2 min befor till now

14:10 <Tank_Master> still no probs

14:11 <Tank_Master> feed lost, out of range

14:11 <MTughan> Yep, and the TV feed froze again...

14:11 <desti> main engines cut of

14:11 <Tank_Master> they are showing the launch site ow

14:11 <Tank_Master> now*

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14:14 <MTughan> :P

14:15 <PovAddict> (15:15:12)  Seth:  waste of money much?

14:17 <PovAddict> MTughan: launch replay

14:18 <PovAddict> (15:16:59)  Nicol├ís:  now all they need is to regularly correct their path till they reach the hubble

14:18 <PovAddict> (15:17:18)  Nicol├ís:  (I doubt they're going in a *perfect* straight line that will get them there, they need to do corrections on the go)

14:18 <PovAddict> (15:17:42)  Seth:  yeah i know

14:18 <PovAddict> (15:17:47)  Seth:  its not rocket science

14:18 <PovAddict> (15:17:52)  Nicol├ís:  it is

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14:30 <hawmps> Hubble is nice, but I rather see the advanced space telescope get launched

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16:19 <Tank_Master> quiet now

16:22 <yoyo[RKN]> sleep time ;)

16:22 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx sx

16:22 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error

16:22 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx sxf

16:22 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 54┬░F / 12┬░C | Humidity: 77% | Pressure: 30.12in / 1020hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h | Updated: 9:50 PM CEST; Chance of Rain. High:55 ░ F.; Chance of Rain. Low:39 ░ F.; Clear. High:62 ░ F.; Clear. Low:37 ░ F.; Clear. High:62 ░ F.; Clear. Low:35 ░ F.;

16:25 <Tank_Master> gn yoyo

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17:02 <xcamel> 'lo

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17:23 <CoderForLife> re-hi

17:23 <wdsmia> re-hi

17:23 <CoderForLife> hey Jay Doug

17:23 <wdsmia> *lo Don, Jay

17:23 <CoderForLife> ah  shuttle lifted off today

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17:26 <CoderForLife> I just may have fixed my e-mail problem that started occuring when my IP address changed awhile back

17:26 <CoderForLife> \o/

17:27 <CoderForLife> some host file entries should have been changed in ways other than just updating the dotted quad

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17:29 <CoderForLife> I was having problems redirecting incoming e-mails to addresses other than local, i.e. if I wanted to forward an e-mail to an address outside my firewall, in a .forward file entry

17:29 <wdsmia> looks like I should pass the 30M boinc credit mark sometime tonight

17:29 <PovAddict> w00t

17:30 <PovAddict> &whatis wdsmia's CPID

17:30 <Romulus> PovAddict: "wdsmia's CPID" could be c0f16ac6eb30094fb940891c66b2d376

17:30 <CoderForLife> those 'outbound' e-mails were timing out accessing the ISP SMTP server, and winding up in /var/spool/mqueue

17:30 <CoderForLife> congrats wdsmia

17:30 <PovAddict>

17:30 <Romulus> <> (at

17:30 <PovAddict> what was that increase in the past two days?

17:31 <wdsmia> got tired of waiting for MW to get there act togetter

17:31 <Tank_Master> lol

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17:38 <xcamel> the cudifieds are killing us "normals"

17:38 <xcamel> and robbing all the available work..

17:42 <xcamel> bbiab - ofaw.

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17:49 <Tank_Master> woot

17:49 <Tank_Master> passted 1m in gpu grid

17:49 <CoderForLife> w00t

17:49 <CoderForLife> I survived another w@#% Monday

17:49 <Tank_Master> congratz

17:49 <CoderForLife> it's good to have goals

17:51 <Tank_Master> :)

17:51 <Tank_Master> yep

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18:13 <Nickuwo> not good... my app is hard rebooting vista sporadically

18:13 <PovAddict> o_o

18:13 <Nickuwo> heh

18:13 <Nickuwo> but only when run in the manager

18:14 <Tank_Master> howdy Nickuwo

18:14 <Nickuwo> hey Tank

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18:15 <Tank_Master> jack's app is locking up the BOINC manager :P

18:15 <PovAddict> is it?

18:15 <Tank_Master> boinc sure doesnt like hundereds of short WUs

18:15 <PovAddict> ah that

18:15 <PovAddict> yeah what locks the manager is having tons of WUs

18:15 <Tank_Master> they are 3sec WUs

18:15 <Txt_file> &whatis amd64

18:15 <Romulus> Txt_file: Error: No factoid matches that key.

18:16 <Tank_Master> &whatis win64

18:16 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: No factoid matches that key.

18:16 <Tank_Master> &whatis winx64

18:16 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: No factoid matches that key.

18:16 <Tank_Master> sued it...

18:16 <Txt_file> why are the versions for Linux sp damn outdated??

18:16 <Tank_Master> used*

18:16 <PovAddict> Txt_file: they aren't

18:16 <Txt_file> 6.6.20 vs. 6.6.28 on wind0ze

18:16 <PovAddict> big deal

18:17 <PovAddict> it's one tiny fix per version, because testers don't compile their own as it's done in most open source projects

18:17 <PovAddict> .28 doesn't suck significantly less than .20

18:18 <Txt_file> but why is 6.6.20 under Linux not stable?

18:18 <PovAddict> define "stable"?

18:18 <Txt_file> then I say recommended

18:18 <PovAddict> BOINC hasn't been stable on any platform since they added GPU support, in 6.3.0

18:18 <PovAddict> nitroglycerin-powered CPU scheduler

18:19 <Tank_Master> boinc? stable?

18:19 <Tank_Master> hah!

18:19 <CoderForLife> __asm { jmp 0 }

18:19 <Txt_file> stable enough for running many days in background many

18:22 <Txt_file> but I can't find any reason why 6.6.20 isn't recommended under Linux and now newer version is availible

18:22 <PovAddict> there isn't any reason

18:22 <PovAddict> "recommended" depends on someone to remember to change the website

18:22 <Tank_Master> the newer versions are just beta builds

18:23 <PovAddict> Tank_Master: anything after 6.2 is a beta build :D

18:23 <Txt_file> 6.2 was no RC-build ?? ;)

18:23 <Tank_Master> lol'

18:24 <Tank_Master> any build is beta as far as BOINC is conserened

18:24 <xcamel> back again

18:24 * wdsmia thinks "recommended Version" means failed beta testing

18:25 <xcamel> 6.6.20 runs just fine...

18:25 <Txt_file> I'm also running 6.6.20 and can't get some errors

18:25 <PovAddict> I wrote a BOINC client from scratch and it has less bugs than the official one and has only 154 lines of code!

18:25 <Txt_file> but I think I don't stress boinc enough

18:25 <PovAddict> still lacks some features, like getting workunits and running them

18:25 <Tank_Master> LOL

18:26 <Txt_file> :D

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18:37 <Txt_file> how was that with the '6.6.20 runs fine' can't get the manager running

18:46 <xcamel> how did you install it, and on what distro?

18:47 <Txt_file> debian\sid\amd64 and installed with sh boinc

18:49 <xcamel> did you modify run_manager?

18:49 <Txt_file> no

18:49 <xcamel> are you starting it by running 'run_manager'

18:52 <Txt_file> yeah

18:52 <PovAddict> and?

18:52 <PovAddict> error message? quiet failure? smoke coming out of computer?

18:53 <Txt_file> nothing ...

18:53 <PovAddict> what desktop environment do you use?

18:53 <Txt_file> now with cd BOINC ./boincmgr it worked

18:53 <Txt_file> LXDE with openbox

18:53 <xcamel> that was my next question

18:53 <PovAddict> strange, that's exactly what run_manager does (look at its code)

18:54 <xcamel> could be a permissions thing

18:54 <Txt_file> don't think so

18:55 <Txt_file> I have sometimes this problem but after some time it works

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18:57 <Txt_file> but if you want some other error. I get this when the manager runs "(boincmgr:25981): Gtk-WARNING **: /scratch/build-area/gtk+2.0-2.16.1/gtk/gtkwidget.c:9103: widget class `GtkPizza' has no property named `row-ending-details'". but it could also have something to do with my system.

18:58 <PovAddict> I got that with VLC sometimes

18:58 <PovAddict> never figured out what a GtkPizza was

19:01 <CoderForLife> Security Is Rarely Convenient

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19:14 <Romulus> WB, Boss

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19:19 <xcamel> grrr..

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20:13 <CoderForLife> two crises averted at home, now time to check in with how the folks sitting in India are getting along with their remote access to the server at w@#%

20:15 <xcamel> thrill-a-minute

20:21 <CoderForLife> indeed

20:21 <CoderForLife> no e-mail pleading for help

20:26 <xcamel> brushing up on your hindi?

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20:31 <CoderForLife> I have a 7:30am phone call - I'm so looking forward to it

20:31 <CoderForLife> I'm practicing now..

20:31 <CoderForLife> "huh?

20:31 <CoderForLife> "what?"

20:37 <CoderForLife> OK - time to go sit with the wife

20:37 <CoderForLife> gn

20:47 <xcamel> laterz

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21:54 <jasong> There's a health insurance advert on a web page, it says,"Do you know the difference between a POS and a PPO?"   I think I learned my acronyms in a different place from the advertiser

22:10 <Txt_file> why I'm unable to build the manager from svn-trunk?

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