IRC logs of #boinc for Wednesday, 2009-05-13

00:02 <Tank_Master> its a motherbaord that zotac made using the ion platform

00:03 <Tank_Master> intel ATOM 330 with intergrated 9300 graphics, and a power brick for $189

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00:05 <efc> That sounds good

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00:05 <PovAddict> f'ing hell

00:05 <PovAddict> fridge started, lights blinked, UPS made clicking sound

00:06 <PovAddict> = fridge f'ed with electricity again but UPS saved me, phew

00:06 <PovAddict> seconds later, lights blink and UPS clicks again, but this time the computer reboots

00:06 <PovAddict> f'ing hell

00:07 <Tank_Master> haha

00:07 <PovAddict> maybe the problem is that not all devices are connected to the UPS, yet most are sharing ground one way or another, so they could interfere each other...somehow

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00:12 <zombie67> TM, that is not a good summary.

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00:12 <zombie67> In what way is that WAY better than what I already have?

00:13 <Tank_Master> 4GB ram at DDR2 800?

00:13 <Tank_Master> more SATA connectors

00:14 <Tank_Master> the intergrated video is better

00:14 <zombie67> ram is needed.  is it dual channel, or whatever it's called?

00:15 <Tank_Master> yep

00:15 <zombie67> sata?  who cares

00:15 <MTughan> Hard drives.

00:15 <Tank_Master> sata 3 actually

00:15 <zombie67> integrated video?  again, who cares

00:15 <Tank_Master> can crunch on the intergrated vid

00:15 <MTughan> Yes.

00:15 <MTughan> http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20090513

00:15 <zombie67> I am approaching this from cruncher perspective, not usability for a real PC

00:15 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/ouwral> (at www.ctrlaltdel-online.com)

00:16 <Tank_Master> LOL MT

00:16 <zombie67> I don't get it

00:16 <MTughan> http://www.xkcd.com/583/ too.

00:16 <Romulus> Title: xkcd - A Webcomic - CNR (at www.xkcd.com)

00:16 <MTughan> zombie67: Bewbs/boobs.

00:17 <zombie67> really?  in what way?

00:17 <zombie67> so back to atom, better memory.....and that is all that matters?

00:17 <Tank_Master> lol, that xkcd is so wrong...

00:17 <PovAddict> xkcd is a horrible pun on the word 'reproduce'

00:18 <Tank_Master> you can crunch on the intergrated vid

00:18 <zombie67> TM, gimme the equiv GPU card...280?

00:18 <Tank_Master> 9400

00:19 <zombie67> 9400?  Like my ati/cuda card?

00:19 <MTughan> GeForce 9400.

00:20 <zombie67> that is practically useless

00:20 <Tank_Master> none siad you had to run out and buy one today...

00:20 <zombie67> no, you miss my point

00:21 <zombie67> the buzz is that they are teh asome

00:21 <Tank_Master> no, they are better

00:21 <Tank_Master> not the cureall for our needs

00:21 <MTughan> You get the Atom, plus a useable graphics card rather than the GMA950.

00:22 <zombie67> I am asking, "in what way"

00:22 <zombie67> I am hearing, more memory

00:22 <zombie67> and a few hundred credits/day from the GPU

00:22 <zombie67> what would REALLY be the asome

00:22 <zombie67> is this

00:22 <zombie67> an atom board + 4 GPU slots

00:23 <MTughan> No, because Intel currently does not allow builders to put PCIe slots on Atom MBs.

00:23 <Tank_Master> my board has a 1x PCI-e

00:23 <zombie67> MT:  NO, it WOULD be awesome.

00:23 <Tank_Master> and 2 PCI

00:24 <MTughan> Oh, sorry... Didn't understand what you were saying. :)

00:24 <MTughan> It would be awesome.

00:24 <MTughan> But not happening anytime soon, for the reason listed.

00:24 <zombie67> imagine a cruncher that required no more power than what the GPUs used

00:26 <Tank_Master> :)

00:26 <Tank_Master> yeah

00:26 <Tank_Master> a quadcore atom would be nice for tha to

00:26 <Tank_Master> with HT

00:26 <zombie67> exactly

00:26 <Tank_Master> 8 threads, 6 or 7 PCI-e 16x cards

00:27 <zombie67> the point is that this new board is good for crunching how?  More memory.  That's good, but not the bottleneck, I think

00:27 <Tank_Master> u can o/c the pu :P

00:27 <Tank_Master> cpu*

00:28 <PovAddict> faster memory access would be good

00:28 <PovAddict> more memory... not so much

00:29 <MTughan> At this point, more memory is starting to become unused memory.

00:29 <PovAddict> someone's forum sig "I buy and sell new, used, surplus, repossessed, or refurbished apostrophes. Many fonts and sizes in stock. Free samples. Specialist in extraneous apostrophe's. Available: easy financing, layaway, qty discounts. POs accepted."

00:29 <zombie67> pu?

00:29 <zombie67> ah

00:30 <zombie67> I can already do that....poorly

00:30 <zombie67> speaking of fonts:  http://www.pvponline.com/2009/05/11/the-font-snob/

00:30 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/p2e52g> (at www.pvponline.com)

00:37 <MTughan> In reference to the CAD comic: http://cad-comic.com/news.php?i=1874#1874

00:37 <Romulus> Title: Ctrl+Alt+Del (at cad-comic.com)

00:45 <Tank_Master> bewbies!

00:46 <zombie67> one of my all-time on-line fav comics ever:  http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/10/22

00:46 <Romulus> Title: Penny Arcade! - Darkest Revelations (at www.penny-arcade.com)

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01:16 <Tank_Master> mweltin!

01:19 <efc> moo

01:20 <Tank_Master> howdy

01:20 <mweltin> hey

01:20 <mweltin> what are you doing on line so late?

01:21 <Tank_Master> pillaging

01:21 <Tank_Master> u?

01:22 <mweltin> pirate booty?

01:22 <Tank_Master> :)

01:22 <mweltin> trying to teach myself flex.

01:22 <Tank_Master> browser game

01:22 <Tank_Master> flex?

01:22 <mweltin> flash

01:22 <Tank_Master> ahh

01:22 <mweltin> same thing sort of.

01:22 <mweltin> Action Script is a better term.

01:24 <mweltin> I played a browser game a while back, same one?  something about growing a civilization resources were wine, sulphur, and crystals.

01:24 <mweltin> I forget the name

01:24 <mweltin> massive time sink

01:24 <zombie67> yep!

01:24 <zombie67> that's the one

01:25 <zombie67> ikariam

01:25 <mweltin> yeah thats it

01:26 <mweltin> good times

01:26 <zombie67> we're still playing

01:26 <zombie67> want back in????

01:26 <Tank_Master> sadly enough :P

01:26 <zombie67> he heh

01:26 <zombie67> one sip can't hurt

01:26 <Tank_Master> hehe

01:27 <mweltin> I tried to partner with some I didn't feel like maintaining an army, I wanted someone to "occupy" my land while I just worked on research.

01:27 <Tank_Master> :)

01:27 <zombie67> PHALANX!

01:27 <mweltin> I met some guy that was like a two day journey from my place, he said it couldn't really be done.

01:28 <zombie67> PHALLUS

01:28 <mweltin> so I ended up just giving him all my stuff after a while.

01:28 <mweltin> that was a cool game.

01:28 <mweltin> and that was just beta at the time right?

01:28 <Tank_Master> looks like ill be getting my hands on a high end acount on test tomorrow

01:28 <zombie67> still is, but many more features

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01:30 <mweltin> it was feature rich when I was in, some little buggy stuff in the interface but other than that pretty solid.   I never noticed any glitches

01:30 <Tank_Master> its changed a bit

01:30 <Tank_Master> new buildings

01:31 <mweltin> you guys must have huge colonies by now.

01:31 <Tank_Master> got 8 towns now

01:31 <Tank_Master> working on a 9th

01:32 <mweltin> my wife is sucking up all the bandwidth in my house.

01:32 <MTughan> You could always join #rieselgames and talk about it more. :)

01:32 <mweltin> she was gone last week for the first time since I got clear service.

01:32 <Tank_Master> lol

01:32 <Tank_Master> she watch a lot of pr0n?

01:33 <mweltin> I was streaming videos from netflix

01:33 <mweltin> she must

01:33 <mweltin> today I can barely search for ikariam

01:33 <mweltin> i saw some great documentaries.

01:33 <Tank_Master> :)

01:34 <mweltin> I recommend "the king of kong" about some guy trying to get the high score on donkey kong.

01:36 <mweltin> it was a great story, strange lands, odd people, heroes, villains, the works

01:36 <mweltin> plot twists everything a good story need.

01:36 <mweltin> needs

01:37 <mweltin> LOL there are ikariam videos on youtube

01:38 <mweltin> in some Slovakian language or something

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01:46 <efc3> Looks good so far, waiting for the power numbers

01:48 <zombie67> "*Always* get a contract when working with a dark, omnipotent power."--MST3K

01:49 <mweltin> LOL

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01:54 <zombie67> "I realised that the purpose of writing is to inflate weak ideas, obscure poor reasoning, and inhibit clarity.  With a little practice, writing can be an intimidating and inpenetrable fog!  Want to see my book report?"  "The Dynamics of Interbeing and Monological Imperatives in 'Dick and Jane' : A Study in Psychic Transrelational Modes."  "Academia, here I come!" -- Calvin & Hobbes

01:57 <efc3> poo, an atom 330 is faster than my current machine hehe

01:57 <Tank_Master> lol

01:58 <Tank_Master> good thing I have an atom then

02:00 <efc3> p4-2.8

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02:01 <efc3> getting old

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02:32 <zombie67> "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." -- George Bernard Shaw

02:34 <MTughan> I've got bad RAM. :(

02:34 <efc> Farnsworth: "You see Vergon 6 was once filled with the super dense substance, known as dark matter, each pound of which weighs over ten-thousand pounds."

02:35 <Tank_Master> o0

02:35 <MTughan> Would very hot RAM potentially create temporary errors?

02:36 <Tank_Master> it may

02:36 <MTughan> Because when I took two sticks out, they were quite hot.

02:36 <Tank_Master> could you hold them?

02:36 <MTughan> Yes, but not for long.

02:37 <efc> sounds like they are marginal at best

02:37 <Tank_Master> yeah

02:37 <MTughan> Hmm?

02:37 <efc> it may pass under ideal conditions but fail intermittently when its warm etc

02:37 <MTughan> The sticks are rated for DDR2-1066 at 2.1V, but I may clock them back to DDR2-800 at 1.8V.

02:37 <efc> typically, it gets worse over time

02:38 <MTughan> I also had four sticks in my system.

02:39 <Tank_Master> im not relly a fan of high voltage ram anymore

02:39 <Tank_Master> to much work

02:39 <MTughan> I have two of these kits: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146785

02:39 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6r53lz> (at www.newegg.com)

02:41 <Tank_Master> why did you go with that ram?

02:42 <MTughan> Because Mushkin looked like a good name looking at reviews. And I wanted something other than OCZ RAM, which is what I had in the P4.

02:42 <Tank_Master> ocz give you issues?

02:42 <MTughan> Went through three dual-channel kits when we first got the machine before we got a working pair.

02:42 <Tank_Master> huh

02:43 <Tank_Master> perhaps I wont get this then :P

02:43 <Tank_Master> never had issues with kingstom

02:43 <MTughan> Even had a small chip fall out of one from under the heatspreader.

02:43 <Tank_Master> though they are more expensive

02:43 <Tank_Master> kingston

02:44 <MTughan> Hmm... The sticks are getting warm again, just from Memtest.

02:44 <Tank_Master> got a spare fan you can mount on them?

02:45 <MTughan> I'll try each kit separately. May just be that having the 4 sticks doesn't have enough airflow to cool.

02:45 <MTughan> How would I mount it if I had one?

02:46 <Tank_Master> for now could lay the case on its side and just lay one ontop...

02:46 <Tank_Master> if you have a small one

02:46 <Tank_Master> like a 60mm

02:46 <MTughan> Nope, only have 120mm in the case.

02:50 <MTughan> Looks like these two sticks will pass, although it's only completed 50% of the tests so far.

02:51 <MTughan> The both of them together failed around 35%.

02:51 <Tank_Master> what cpu do you have?

02:51 <zombie67> (Bender wakes up screaming)

02:51 <zombie67> FRY:  Bender, what is it?

02:51 <zombie67> BENDER:  Whoa, what an awful dream.  Ones and zeros everywhere.  And I thought I saw a two.

02:51 <zombie67> FRY:  It was just a dream, Bender.  There's no such thing as two.

02:51 <zombie67> FUTURAMA, "A HEAD IN THE POLLS"

02:51 <MTughan> Core 2 Quad Q6600, G0 stepping.

02:52 <Tank_Master> might be the northbridge

02:52 <MTughan> P45.

02:52 <Tank_Master> the mem controler may not like 2.1v ram

02:52 <zombie67> something is pulling too much juice

02:52 <MTughan> I know I passed Memtest with one kit at 2.1V before.

02:52 <Tank_Master> esp with 4 sticks

02:53 <Tank_Master> the higher voltage can ware things out quicker though

02:53 <MTughan> I'm going to try each kit separately, see how it goes.

02:53 <zombie67> can they pass the test w/o OC?

02:53 <MTughan> zombie67: They're not OC'd.

02:53 <Tank_Master> they are tecnically

02:53 <MTughan> The CPU is, the RAM isn't.

02:53 <Tank_Master> standards are for 800MHz max and 1.85

02:54 <Tank_Master> anything above that is o/c as far as the motherboard is conserned

02:54 <MTughan> They're overclocked from their programmed JEDEC standards, yes. But they're tested at 1066MHz @2.1-2.2V.

02:54 <zombie67> the point:  If nothing on the mobo is OC, is there still a problem??

02:54 <MTughan> Oh... No, the CPU is overclocked.

02:54 <Tank_Master> my point is that just cus munchian sais they will run fine at those ratings, doesnt mean the mobo can handel it properly

02:55 <MTughan> And the northbridge too.

02:55 <MTughan> Yep, I know. We'll find out.

02:55 <Tank_Master> because it is running above speck

02:55 <MTughan> If each kit separately passes the test, then it's not the RAM.

02:55 <zombie67> [23:54]  <zombie67> the point:  If nothing on the mobo is OC, is there still a problem??

02:56 <zombie67> "I have a perfect cure for a sore throat.  Cut it." -- Alfred Hitchcock

02:57 <zombie67> if no OC, and then no problem, then maybe the problem is not the mem.

02:58 <MTughan> As I said, we'll find out. If each kit separately passes Memtest at rated clocks, but not together, that either points to heat issues or the northbridge.

02:59 <MTughan> 2/3 through this test, no errors so far.

02:59 <zombie67> I did not know what you meant by "kit"

03:00 <MTughan> Ah, okay.

03:00 <MTughan> I got the RAM as two 2x2GB kits. So I'm testing each separately.

03:01 <zombie67> "When anyone says `theoretically,' they really mean `not really.'" -- David Parnas

03:01 <zombie67> gn

03:01 <MTughan> Night.

03:01 <Tank_Master> im out

03:01 <Tank_Master> gn ye all

03:01 <CoderForLife> heh

03:01 <MTughan> Night TM.

03:01 <MTughan> 'lo CFL

03:01 <Tank_Master> gn MT

03:01 <Tank_Master> CFL!

03:01 <CoderForLife> hey

03:01 <Tank_Master> morning ;)

03:01 <CoderForLife> indeed

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03:02 <MTughan> I was going to visit a site...

03:02 <MTughan> Ah yes, more comics. :)

03:05 <CoderForLife> 3 am

03:05 <MTughan> I'm also going to test my CPU after this with Prime95, make sure that the overclock isn't pushing it too far right now.

03:07 <efc> moo

03:07 <MTughan> 'lo efc

03:07 <MTughan> You're back to mooing?

03:07 <CoderForLife> moo

03:10 <CoderForLife> you should never travel far from your moo

03:10 <MTughan> apt-get moo

03:10 <MTughan> I think that's the command...

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03:45 <FreeLarry58> humm i wonder if thats whats happening with this update vista can upgrade to win7 via updates

04:02 <MTughan> First kit passed find, and the second kit is about to do the same...

04:02 <MTughan> fine*

04:03 <MTughan> And while I don't have a small fan I can place on top of the memory, I have something even better: a larger "desktop" fan that can blow a lot of air.

04:04 <FreeLarry58> testing memory modules MTughan?

04:04 <MTughan> FreeLarry58: Yep.

04:04 <FreeLarry58> that can take some time

04:04 <FreeLarry58> oc settings or default

04:04 <MTughan> Been having BSODs lately, so I decided to do a memtest. Got a fair amount of failures.

04:05 <FreeLarry58> ouch

04:05 <MTughan> However, both kits pass separately, so that means it's either a heat issue or a northbridge issue.

04:05 <MTughan> I plan to dispel the first theory now if I can.

04:05 <FreeLarry58> could be both

04:05 <FreeLarry58> northbridge could be overheating

04:06 <MTughan> True, true.

04:06 <FreeLarry58> mine looked to be clock drifting on last mb issue i faced

04:07 <MTughan> Gonna put the other kit back in and blow lots of air on the modules while running Memtest.

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04:07 <FreeLarry58> try without the air first on memtest than with air

04:08 <FreeLarry58> memtest doesnt load the mb that heavy and mine was passing even with failing mb

04:08 <MTughan> No, the failures were without the fan.

04:09 <MTughan> The first time I tried it, I had all 4 sticks in and ran it.

04:09 <MTughan> When I took two out, they both felt quite warm.

04:09 <FreeLarry58> humm whats the voltage setting?

04:09 <MTughan> 2.1V.

04:09 <FreeLarry58> sounds a little high

04:10 <MTughan> It is. Standard is 1.8V.

04:10 <FreeLarry58> oc'ing then

04:10 <MTughan> The modules are rated for DDR2-1066 @2.1-2.2V.

04:10 <FreeLarry58> ahh

04:10 <MTughan> But I may have to back down to DDR2-800 @1.8V.

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04:11 <FreeLarry58> modules tested fine at 1066 then

04:11 <FreeLarry58> figure on different machine

04:11 <MTughan> Separately, yep.

04:12 <FreeLarry58> and mb you putting them in rated for 1066 may be ratio setting then between cpu and memory

04:12 <MTughan> Tank_Master suggested that maybe the northbridge doesn't like putting out that much voltage. 2.1V for four sticks is high.

04:12 <FreeLarry58> yeah lots of current draw

04:12 <MTughan> I'm using a 3:2 FSB:RAM ratio.

04:13 <MTughan> FSB is 354MHz before quad-pumping.

04:13 <FreeLarry58> cpu?

04:13 <Romulus> I guess cpu is a T9400, 45nm Penryn at 2.53GHz, with 6MB L2 cache. Let me just say, it's fast. :D, FreeLarry58

04:13 <MTughan> Q6600 G0.

04:13 <FreeLarry58> don't doubt it a bit

04:13 <MTughan> The T9400 Rommie mentioned would be my Lenovo...

04:14 <FreeLarry58> ahh

04:14 <CoderForLife> sleep is over-rated

04:14 <CoderForLife> and elusive

04:14 <FreeLarry58> humm guess i should have got the higher memory - think my q6600 using ddr2 800

04:14 <FreeLarry58> very CoderForLife

04:14 <MTughan> CoderForLife: In the past 38 hours or so, I've had about 3 hours sleep.

04:14 <CoderForLife> see?

04:15 * FreeLarry58 doesnt keep track anymore but wonders why kb is imprinted in forehead a lot

04:15 <MTughan> FreeLarry58: I've actually gotten my Q6600 up to about 420MHz on the FSB, but that's with the 7x multiplier.

04:15 <CoderForLife> I seem to be only able to sleep in 2 hour chunks - sometimes I can put 2 chunks together

04:16 <FreeLarry58> yeaouch - will stick with stock here i think - cant afford to keep replacing failed parts

04:16 <CoderForLife> I need to wake up in 45 minutes

04:16 <MTughan> lol

04:16 <MTughan> Stock is what, 266MHz?

04:16 <FreeLarry58> think so

04:16 <MTughan> I'm running at 354MHz right now, good solid overclock.

04:16 <MTughan> 3.186GHz.

04:17 <FreeLarry58> i know there was a lot of talk about them being robust but didn't want to push things much

04:17 <MTughan> I've got a bigger cooler than stock too. Never really liked Intel's recent coolers.

04:17 <FreeLarry58> burned up too much in earlier years and shortened the life of my 3.2 ht's mbs

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04:20 <MTughan> Well, the sticks are feeling fairly cool with the air blowing over them... So if it still produces errors at this point, I'd say it's the northbridge.

04:20 <MTughan> If it doesn't, it's heat.

04:20 <MTughan> Although the solution for either is to lower the voltage through the RAM.

04:20 <FreeLarry58> i saw on last message from M$ that win7rc can be updated on vista machines via dl

04:20 <FreeLarry58> i think that may be whats going on with this other machine as checked all updates for first time

04:21 <FreeLarry58> so far over 24 hrs and still going on update installation

04:21 <MTughan> Hmm... Wonder if I could find an Antec Spotcool fan.

04:54 <MTughan> Looks like it may have just been heat after all. No errors yet.

04:54 <MTughan> May pick up one of these then: http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/cooling_products/ocz_xtc_cooler

04:54 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/ybagdl> (at www.ocztechnology.com)

05:01 <MTughan> Had someone tell me to feed coffee with sugar to the RAM. xD

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05:31 <MTughan> RAM sticks passed fine with the fan on them. I'm going to let it go around one more time to be sure.

06:00 <CoderForLife> to verken - laterz

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06:37 <hawmps> mornin

06:43 * CoderForLife moans

06:44 <CoderForLife> out the door, now, finally

07:31 <hawmps> &weather 12020

07:31 <Romulus> hawmps: Temperature: 46.5°F / 8.1°C | Humidity: 69% | Pressure: 30.18in / 1021.9hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs in the lower 70s. Light and variable winds...becoming south 5 to 10 mph this afternoon.; Tonight - Mostly clear in the evening...then becoming partly cloudy. Not as cool with lows in the upper 40s. South (1 more message)

07:31 <hawmps> &more

07:31 <Romulus> hawmps: winds 10 to 15 mph.; Thursday - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers in the morning...then showers likely in the afternoon. Breezy with highs in the mid 60s. South winds 15 to 25 mph. Chance of rain 70 percent.;

08:24 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

08:24 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 54.3°F / 12.4°C | Humidity: 73% | Pressure: 29.85in / 1010.7hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Becoming mostly cloudy with a chance of showers. A chance of thunderstorms this afternoon. Highs around 70. South winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 35 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. (2 more messages)

08:24 <CoderForLife> &more

08:24 <Romulus> CoderForLife: A chance of showers and thunderstorms in the evening...then showers likely with a chance of thunderstorms after midnight. Lows in the lower 60s. South winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph. Chance of rain 70 percent.; Thursday - Mostly cloudy. Showers with a chance of thunderstorms in the morning...then a chance of showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. Highs in the mid 70s. (1 more message)

08:24 <CoderForLife> &more

08:24 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. Chance of rain 90 percent.;

08:24 <CoderForLife> "here comes the rain again..."

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12:55 <Nickuwo> ...

12:57 <Nickuwo> what a boring day

12:58 <desti> ack

13:12 <hawmps> so sorry..

13:15 <Nickuwo> u should be

13:16 <hawmps> frak ewe.

13:17 <hawmps> ;-)

13:18 <Nickuwo> :)

13:19 <Nickuwo> that made it slightly more interesting :)

13:22 <hawmps> watching this storm system scream in here for tomorrow

13:22 <hawmps> spinning through IN/IL at the moment

13:23 <Nickuwo> look pretty nasty? I think I'm gonna get hit by it too

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13:38 <MTughan> I fell asleep again...

13:39 <MTughan> Anyway, it's definitely heat. RAM passed 7 times with a fan on it.

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15:42 <Nickuwo> hmm, manager says [error] Can't rename output file Ramsey_etc to projects/www.ramseyathome.com_ramsey/ramsey_etc:Error 2

15:44 <Nickuwo> why would it want to rename it to that?

15:44 <Nickuwo> fishy...

15:55 <Nickuwo> hmm, templates files are the same as dev...

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16:15 <Nickuwo> wtf, its working on linux, but not windows

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17:17 <wdsmia> re-hi

17:17 <mweltin> hey

17:18 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

17:18 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 70.0°F / 21.1°C | Humidity: 86% | Pressure: 29.50in / 998.9hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Thunderstorm | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Late This Afternoon - Mostly cloudy with scattered thunderstorms. West wind 5 to 10 mph. Chance of thunderstorms 50 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Colder. Low in the mid 40s. Northwest wind 10 to 20 mph.; Thursday - Sunny. (1 more message)

17:18 <wdsmia> &more

17:18 <Romulus> wdsmia: High in the upper 60s. West wind 5 to 10 mph.; Severe Thunderstorm Warning for Polk County in effect until 4:45 PM CDT on May 13, 2009;

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17:25 <CoderForLife> home again - thunderstorm and traffic storm

17:26 <wdsmia> looks nasty

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17:46 <wdsmia> Begging for scraps again?

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17:47 <CoderForLife> avoiding the lightning strikes

17:49 <Romulus> New news from boinc: BOINC news May 13, 2009

17:51 <CoderForLife> so - my big question of the day:  what is the word meaning "to put your currency in order by denomination and oriented in the same direction in your wallet"?

17:52 <wdsmia> Obsessive–compulsive

17:54 <CoderForLife> I got your obsessive right here

17:54 <wdsmia> lol

17:57 <CoderForLife> it raineth mightily

17:58 <CoderForLife> flash

17:58 <CoderForLife> boom

17:58 <wdsmia> drove to work this morning in one of those

17:58 <wdsmia> not fun

17:59 <CoderForLife> time to check on the chimney leak - bbiab

18:07 <CoderForLife> water not, so far

18:08 <wdsmia> Ding... how long can you tread water?

18:15 <CoderForLife> http://www.badmovies.org/othermovies/creepshow/creepshow3.wav

18:15 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/qb2dm6> (at www.badmovies.org)

18:18 <CoderForLife> plink 64.15.156.247 - trying to fetch "webcalendar" from my server

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18:45 <CoderForLife> re-gn

19:02 <xcamel> 'lo

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19:30 <MTughan_> Okay, XChat working on the laptop again. :)

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19:38 <xcamel> &wx 12074

19:38 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 65.9°F / 18.8°C | Humidity: 34% | Pressure: 30.24in / 1023.9hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 13.0mph / 20.9km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear this evening...then becoming partly cloudy. Not as cool with lows in the lower 50s. South winds 10 to 15 mph.; Thursday - Mostly cloudy. Scattered showers with patchy drizzle in the morning...then occasional (2 more messages)

19:38 <xcamel> &more

19:38 <Romulus> xcamel: showers in the afternoon. Breezy with highs in the upper 60s. South winds 15 to 25 mph with gusts up to 40 mph. Chance of rain 80 percent.; Thursday Night - Mostly cloudy with scattered showers in the evening...then partly cloudy after midnight. Areas of fog after midnight. Lows in the lower 50s. South winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph...diminishing to 5 to 10 mph after midnight. (1 more message)

19:38 <xcamel> &more

19:38 <Romulus> xcamel: Chance of rain 50 percent.;

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20:15 <PovAddict> BOINC Workshop '09 announced

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20:30 <xcamel> where? Lagos, Nigeria?

20:32 <PovAddict> Barcelona, Spain

20:32 <PovAddict> October 22nd

20:32 <xcamel> Barthelona..

20:33 <PovAddict> lol

20:33 <PovAddict> indeed

20:33 <xcamel> catalonian lispth added..

20:34 <PovAddict> grathiash

20:44 <kathryn_> http://www.esladventures.net/blog/2009/05/13/course-chinese-meal/

20:44 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/olgjww> (at www.esladventures.net)

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20:45 <Tank_Master> KM!

20:45 <xcamel> 'lo Kat

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20:46 <KathrynM> http://esladventuresinphotos.wordpress.com/2009/05/13/thinkin-about-teaching/

20:46 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/qpdgma> (at esladventuresinphotos.wordpress.com)

20:46 <KathrynM> ^^ that one is even better

20:47 <xcamel> :)

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21:27 <MTughan> KathrynM: Haha, nice picture of "Dave".

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21:35 <Tank_Master> &cad

21:35 <Romulus> http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php

21:36 <MTughan> Bewbs!

21:36 <Tank_Master> :D

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22:14 <xionyc> &wx LGA

22:14 <Romulus> xionyc: Temperature: 57°F / 14°C | Humidity: 62% | Pressure: 30.39in / 1029hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy this evening...then becoming mostly cloudy. Areas of fog this evening. Patchy fog after midnight. Lows in the lower 50s. South winds 10 to 15 mph.; Thursday - Cloudy. A slight chance of rain and drizzle in (1 more message)

22:14 <xionyc> &more

22:14 <Romulus> xionyc: the morning...then a chance of showers with a slight chance of thunderstorms in the afternoon. Breezy with highs in the mid 60s. South winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph. Chance of rain 40 percent.; Thursday Night - Showers with a slight chance of thunderstorms. Breezy with lows in the upper 50s. South winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph. Chance of rain 80 percent.;

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