00:03 <zombie67> ambient
00:04 <zombie67> i worry for the slightly OC machines, and the GPU crunchers
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00:04 <MTughan> Yep.
00:04 <MTughan> Still fairly cool around here, so I'm running my OC'd machine at 59C ATM.
00:04 <MTughan> 55-59C for the cores.
00:05 <MTughan> &math 363 / 266
00:05 <Romulus> MTughan: 1.36466165414
00:05 <MTughan> 36% overclock.
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00:47 <MTughan> Wow... My computer seems to be doing lots of stuff, so BOINC froze up, and apps started exiting because of no heartbeat from the client. Now it's started getting colder in the room...
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01:06 <jackygrahamez> hi
01:06 <MTughan> 'lo Jack
01:06 <efc> moo
01:06 <jackygrahamez> &wx 20011
01:06 <MTughan> I was wanting to talk to you a couple days ago about OS X compilation options... :P
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01:07 <jackygrahamez> yes, I would like to talk about it but I don't have the mac on me
01:07 <jackygrahamez> &more
01:07 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: in the morning...then partly sunny with a slight chance of showers in the afternoon. Highs in the mid 60s. North winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph. Chance of rain 70 percent.; Sunday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows in the mid 40s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph.;
01:08 <MTughan> Well, I can give you the options anyway.
01:08 <jackygrahamez> busy day, saw star trek then went out to a latin restraunt
01:08 <Tank_Master> rought day jack...
01:09 <jackygrahamez> saw it on an imax at the Air & Space by Dulles
01:09 <Tank_Master> rough*
01:09 <Tank_Master> lol
01:09 <jackygrahamez> big a$$ screen
01:09 <Tank_Master> I may do that to
01:09 <Tank_Master> they an an imax around here that displays in digital
01:09 <Tank_Master> there is*
01:10 <jackygrahamez> this is the best trek yet, they actually have acting
01:10 <Tank_Master> lol
01:10 <PovAddict> &grab jackygrahamez
01:10 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.
01:11 * jackygrahamez awe
01:11 <Tank_Master> HAHA
01:11 <Tank_Master> stb PovAddict
01:12 <efc> &grab Romulus
01:12 <Romulus> efc: Error: I couldn't find a proper message to grab.
01:12 <Tank_Master> heh
01:12 <PovAddict> "Error: no grabbable material"
01:13 <Tank_Master> &grab PovAddict
01:13 <Romulus> Tank_Master: The operation succeeded.
01:13 <PovAddict> &ungrab
01:13 <Tank_Master> &grab PovAddict
01:13 <Romulus> Tank_Master: The operation succeeded.
01:13 <MTughan> Holy crap... My quad was sitting idle for a couple minutes, now it's cold in here.
01:14 <Tank_Master> lol
01:14 <PovAddict> omg
01:14 <Tank_Master> what r u running?
01:14 <Tank_Master> DD@H?
01:14 <Romulus> Somebody said DD@H is back up, Tank_Master
01:14 <MTughan> WCG.
01:14 <MTughan> Actually, WCG and AQUA now.
01:14 <Tank_Master> o stfu Romulus
01:14 <PovAddict> get an app with good cache coherency ASAP!
01:14 <MTughan> ?
01:14 <Tank_Master> that would exclude DD@H
01:15 <PovAddict> less time waiting for memory = more time processing = more heat
01:15 <MTughan> How would a 64-bit app do?
01:15 <Tank_Master> better
01:15 <jackygrahamez> yup, I got to plan the next runs with Andrew
01:15 <jackygrahamez> we still got some results to report
01:16 <MTughan> This computer isn't attached to ABC, but I could do it soon.
01:16 <Tank_Master> whats better are SSEx optimized
01:16 <MTughan> Einstein is the closest I've heard of that. Conditional SSE2.
01:16 <Tank_Master> jack, how meny reports are left to report?
01:16 <MTughan> At least in a stock app.
01:16 <PovAddict> Tank_Master: 30,518
01:17 <Tank_Master> tones
01:17 <PovAddict> jackygrahamez: still 500s?
01:17 <jackygrahamez> I just ran grep " 500 " access_log and nothing appeared
01:18 <PovAddict> interesting, wonder what's holding people's reports then
01:18 <PovAddict> they're taking forever :)
01:18 <PovAddict> what's the deadline on the outstanding work?
01:18 <Tank_Master> cerdit mongers
01:18 <jackygrahamez> change this ???? <report_max>100</report_max>
01:19 <PovAddict> -> #boinc_dev
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01:23 <zombie67> I just picked up a stray DD task
01:23 <PovAddict> zombie67: yeah, there are some resends now and then
01:41 <jackygrahamez> MTughan did you have something to say about Panther?
01:41 * MTughan points to #boinc_dev
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02:53 <zombie67> allright, I need a script or something for osx
02:53 <MTughan> For?
02:53 <zombie67> BOINC backs off 24 hours if a project has no work
02:54 <zombie67> but with projects like RALPH, they issue work only once in a few days, and then only a very limited amount
02:54 <zombie67> so for project like RALPH, I want BOINC to check every (say) 5 minutes
02:55 <MTughan> Might be more difficult for OS X. No boinc_cmd program is included by default.
02:56 <zombie67> how about some additional thing to add to the code and then build it?
02:56 <MTughan> Nothing that I could cobble together right now.
02:56 <MTughan> However, probably wouldn't be too hard to build boinc_cmd for OS X.
02:57 <zombie67> heh, no, not asking for anything righ now
02:57 <MTughan> You could also use boinc_cmd remotely.
02:57 <zombie67> the back-off logic is very ANNOYING for things like RALPH, LHC, etc.
02:58 <zombie67> just doesn't work
02:58 <zombie67> how to use boinc_cmd remotely?
02:58 <MTughan> One sec...
02:59 <zombie67> again, not looking for detailed instructions
02:59 <zombie67> just an over view, for what you men
02:59 <zombie67> mean
03:00 <MTughan> ./boinccmd [--host hostname] [--passwd password] command
03:00 <MTughan> The password is stored in gui_rpc_auth.cfg, just like on every other platform. You can customize it too.
03:00 <zombie67> ah, you mean run it from a windows machine to instruct the osx machine
03:00 <MTughan> Or a Linux machine, yes.
03:01 <zombie67> don't have any booting to linux rught now
03:01 <zombie67> right
03:01 <MTughan> Well, as long as you have a Windows machine with boinccmd on it, it should work.
03:01 <zombie67> okay, so you suggest a script running on a remote machine to instruct the osx machine to check on certain projects on a particular schedule
03:02 <MTughan> :P Yep.
03:02 <zombie67> got it
03:02 <zombie67> okay, now, is that something that you would/could do?
03:03 <MTughan> I don't use scripts myself, I don't think their playing fair.
03:03 <MTughan> But if you had a .bat file to update all of your machines at once, you could put it in a scheduled task.
03:03 <zombie67> fair? clearly, BOINC is broken for projects with non-regular work
03:04 <MTughan> It's opinion.
03:04 <zombie67> in what way?
03:04 <Romulus> It has been said that in what way is that WAY better than what I already have, zombie67
03:04 <MTughan> Whether it's fair is opinion in what way?
03:06 <zombie67> I mean, the back-off logic is based on the assumption that work is generally available. And if BOINC can't get any work "somthing must be wrong, so back off".
03:07 <zombie67> clearly that is not the case for projects like RALPH, LHC, amelegrid, etc.
03:07 <zombie67> hah!
03:08 <zombie67> brb
03:08 <MTughan> Anyway... Like I said, it's a matter of opinion. You're fine with it, I'm not.
03:09 <zombie67> why not?
03:10 <zombie67> Why am I not allowed to get work when work is available?
03:10 <MTughan> I didn't say you aren't. But I don't believe scripts are the right way.
03:10 <MTughan> But there's no reason to try and convince me, I'm not stopping you.
03:11 <zombie67> so my choices are BOINC which does not allow me to get work, or scripts which are wrong?
03:11 <MTughan> Look at it this way... You do want you want, I'll manage my machines my own way.
03:11 <zombie67> whoa!
03:12 <zombie67> I am not making a judgement, nor am i suggesting you should manage your machines in any way!
03:12 <MTughan> No, but you seem to be thinking that I dictate what you run.
03:12 <zombie67> I am asking why you believe what you do
03:12 <zombie67> ??
03:12 <zombie67> No.
03:13 <MTughan> Nvm... I just don't run scripts, forget the reasons why.
03:13 <zombie67> I am suggesting that BOINC dictates
03:14 <zombie67> I am serious. Why do you think scripts that change the work request logic are wrong. Perhaps there is an angle I am missing
03:15 <MTughan> There's not really a logical reason. It's a phycological reason for me.
03:15 <MTughan> psychological*
03:15 <MTughan> Damn those words are hard to remember...
03:15 <zombie67> yeah
03:16 <zombie67> let me throw something out: you think we should all be working with the same work fetch rules, so that it is fair?
03:17 <MTughan> That's part of it, yes.
03:17 <zombie67> okay, so then one way would be to fix the work fetch rules in the default BOINC distro
03:17 <MTughan> I'd also prefer not to bend BOINC around too much in case it breaks. It's already fragile enough as it is, it seems.
03:18 <zombie67> so that they work for projects with regular work, and those with irregular work
03:18 <zombie67> fragile? Or completely screwed up?
03:18 <MTughan> Either or.
03:19 <zombie67> I think POV has the right approach, re-write it from the ground up.
03:19 <MTughan> We're not rewriting it completely.
03:19 <MTughan> Just parts at a time, and probably not the whole thing.
03:19 <zombie67> fine. cleaning up the code
03:20 <MTughan> Rewriting completely would take years.
03:20 <zombie67> but that gets me back to the beginning. Until it's fixed, I need a solution
03:20 <zombie67> we all do
03:20 <MTughan> Sure, use a script if you're fine with it. There's no technical reason I don't.
03:21 <zombie67> Which is better? A few getting all the LHC batch of work, or all of us getting some? That is the approach I am taking.
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03:30 <Tank_Master> me getting all
03:30 <zombie67> TRVTH
03:32 <zombie67> MT, sorry if I pissed you off. I was NOT implying that you were dictating ANYTHING. Sorry if it came off that way. I was just trying to understand your, er P O V.
03:33 <MTughan> np. I went off to do other stuff anyway.
03:44 <Tank_Master> im outa here
03:45 <Tank_Master> bed time :)
03:46 <efc> I wonder if anybody ever tried making a digital record (LP)
03:46 <MTughan> efc: Hmm?
03:47 <efc> recording bits instead of analog
03:47 <efc> Just as a novelty..
03:47 <zombie67> how?
03:47 <Romulus> how is breakfast, zombie67
03:47 <MTughan> I've recorded a record into digital format... Don't know about one already in digital.
03:47 <efc> I guess it would make more sense to use some modulation like a modem since its an inherently analog medium
03:47 <zombie67> exactly
03:48 <zombie67> modem is good analogy
03:48 <efc> MP3 on LP :)
03:48 <zombie67> you are talking about still using a needle, right?
03:48 <efc> Yes
03:48 <zombie67> so must be analog
03:48 <zombie67> but the sounds could be modem sounds
03:49 <zombie67> which are translated into digital
03:49 <efc> I think that was done in a few cases, in newspapers (if you remember sometimes there'd be a cheap record in the paper)
03:49 <zombie67> via modem
03:49 <efc> It was basically a cassette-tape signal
03:49 <zombie67> I recall floppy 45's as tear outs in magazines
03:50 <zombie67> heh. this sounds like a path to puch cards
03:50 <efc> The McDonalds commercial one is the only one I remember hehe
03:52 <efc> My other idea was a 45 that would also play in a CD player
03:53 <efc> Not quite sure how to pass that off
03:53 <zombie67> I have a bunch of CD blanks that look like 45s
03:53 <zombie67> opaque black, with groves on the top
03:53 <efc> Flipping it (record on one side, CD on the other) would be trivial, too easy
03:54 <zombie67> f9991166090dfea35a09445a30c18509
03:54 <efc> If you had a material with index of refraction of exactly 1 it might work
03:54 <zombie67> wait
03:54 <zombie67> there
03:56 <efc> Cool
03:56 <zombie67> yep
03:56 <zombie67> and I agree, very reliable
03:56 <efc> I would kind of like to make some 45s as gifts
03:56 <zombie67> not a persnickety
03:56 <zombie67> as
03:57 <zombie67> I am cranking hard on Malaria Control to try to score 1M before they go donw again
04:02 <efc> yo-yo project eh
04:06 <efc> have been trying to find the bandwidth of a typical phonograph
04:10 <efc> maybe 20 kb/sec
04:10 <efc> bits
04:17 <zombie67> what is the bandwidth of the USPS?
04:17 <efc> uh, mailing DVDs?
04:17 <efc> a 747 full of blu-rays has a pretty staggering bandwidth, but the latency stinks
04:17 <zombie67> exactly
04:19 <efc> i just wanted to see if LP could support MP3 in real time
04:19 <zombie67> ?
04:19 <efc> not really
04:19 <zombie67> LP is just analog data
04:19 <zombie67> signals
04:19 <efc> ie could I modulate the MP3, record it as analog
04:20 <zombie67> yes, so what is your compression?
04:20 <efc> then play it back with no buffering
04:20 <efc> well you figure below 64 kbps is not really worth doing
04:20 <zombie67> modems are limited by crappy telephone lines
04:21 <zombie67> you could do more without that limitation
04:21 <efc> yeah, modems are basically 8 khz, 8 bit samples
04:23 <efc> hence 64k bits/sec (due to bit robbing you lose a bit to yield 56kbps)
04:24 <zombie67> so if you built a better modem?
04:28 <efc> well, it wouldn't do much good over the phone lines
04:28 <efc> on the record you could do a little better but I'm not sure exactly how much
04:29 <efc> the record is stereo so that helps some. Might get 40 kpbs
04:29 <efc> seems low
04:29 <zombie67> no, not over phone lines
04:30 <zombie67> I an talking about a better analog <-> digital conveter
04:30 <zombie67> modems suck because they have to conform to telco crap
04:30 <zombie67> without that restriction...
04:35 <efc> then the limit is Shannon's Law
04:36 <efc> bandwidth and SNR become the determining factors
04:36 <efc> i can't find enough numbers on records to tell
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04:37 <zombie67> gn
04:38 <efc> running some other numbers I got 332 kpbs
04:38 <efc> so who knows
04:38 <efc> night
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08:10 <xcamel> 'lo
08:30 <xcamel> &wx 12074
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08:30 <xcamel> &more
08:30 <Romulus> xcamel: mph. Chance of rain 70 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening...then clearing. Colder with lows in the mid 30s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph.; Monday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the lower 60s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph.;
08:31 <CoderForLife> morning
08:31 <xcamel> hi
08:31 <CoderForLife> looks like you got some rain last night
08:31 <xcamel> a little more then an inch
08:31 <CoderForLife> all I could see was yellow blobs descending on you
08:32 <xcamel> no real storms though
08:34 <xcamel> thundered about twice
08:34 <CoderForLife> local auction of at least part of SENCO Products - see pgs 25-26 of PDF if interested http://evanslandscaping.com/_filelib/FileCabinet/retail/EvansRPriceGuide.pdf?FileName=EvansRPriceGuide.pdf
08:39 <xcamel> interesting..
08:43 <CoderForLife> I thought of you when I saw it earler
08:44 <CoderForLife> not sure of the relationship between SENCO and Evans - both are long-time eastside well-known companies
08:47 <CoderForLife> we built the high school 1974 homecoming winning float with SENCO air staple guns
08:48 <CoderForLife> 15 foot tall duck platformed on a VW Beetle
08:48 <CoderForLife> self-propelled, naturally
08:48 <xcamel> lol
08:49 <CoderForLife> the only year the band ever won the float competition
08:50 <xcamel> SENCO might just be selling excess inventory because of the downdurn..
08:50 <xcamel> er downturn even..
08:50 <CoderForLife> looks like a whole plant site
08:51 <CoderForLife> "property available" on pg 25
08:51 <CoderForLife> that's a manufacturing site, not a landscaping site
08:52 <CoderForLife> anyway - just thought you may have some level of interest - fwiw
08:52 <xcamel> that pdf didn't work well on my system
08:56 <CoderForLife> hmm
08:58 <CoderForLife> I just got that catalog in the mail yesterday
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09:54 <CoderForLife> what an idiot: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/05/17/oops-biden-reveals-location-secret-vp-bunker/
09:56 <xcamel> yep.. just saw that...
10:00 <ELGono> morning dudes
10:00 <CoderForLife> hey German dude
10:00 <CoderForLife> wattup?
10:00 <ELGono> feels like summer outside
10:01 <ELGono> perfect for chilling ... was a hard week
10:01 <ELGono> we worked till half an hour before printing on heidis thesis
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10:16 <CoderForLife> is it done now?
10:19 <ELGono> jepp thursday morning
10:19 <ELGono> 39h nonstop marathon before hehe
10:21 <ELGono> needs just another presentation and discussion with her professor and then she's done with it
10:23 <ELGono> just a pitty we missed nearly all of iswi (international student week ilmenau)
10:24 <ELGono> just had one installation there with laser-tagging .... wich was pretty phun ;)
10:25 <xcamel> ..taking one for the team...
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11:23 <CoderForLife> congratulations on getting done ELGono
11:24 <CoderForLife> "done" is a good place to be
11:27 <ELGono> yea some days relaxing for the final fight... but the thesis is done so far... no chance to add something
11:28 <ELGono> hope i'll find some time for electronics soon ;) got a big package of parts wich needs to be soldered
11:28 <ELGono> 2 more preamps waiting .... one of them evaluation board maybe going into series
11:29 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - reactable: basic demo #1 (at www.youtube.com)
11:29 <ELGono> yea pov
11:30 <ELGono> we build it 2 years ago
11:30 <ELGono> also at iswi ;)
11:30 <ELGono> had an old glassworks factory back then ....
11:30 <ELGono> maybe don remembers ... live tv shows from there ;)
11:31 <CoderForLife> I remember
11:32 <ELGono> we had a workshop with some electronic music freaks and VJ's ... and we wanted to create an interface based on reactable for controlling both ... music and surrouding video projectors
11:33 <ELGono> unfortunately we got stucked on reactable back then and focussed on the "video moving mirror" system
11:35 <ELGono> i really have to look were the table has gone we build ....
11:35 <ELGono> for reactable
11:37 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Graffiti Research Lab L.A.S.E.R Tag (at www.youtube.com)
11:38 <ELGono> thats the software we played with last week ...
11:38 <PovAddict> seen that one
11:38 <ELGono> we already improved performance from 42 to 60 fps recompiling with SSE2
11:40 <ELGono> depending on weather we want to have some more spontaniously actions with it downtown
11:40 <PovAddict> :)
11:41 <ELGono> just getting power is the problem
11:41 <ELGono> the small 5000 lumen projectors runs an hour on ups
11:41 <Tank_Master> get a bigger ups
11:41 <PovAddict> wow nice
11:41 <ELGono> but the 15k beast would need an agregat
11:48 <ELGono> maybe tonight we hava a tour with a trolley with ups, 5k projector, cam and laptop on
11:49 <ELGono> i really want to paint the Goethe bronze statue
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14:42 <Pinchiukas> How can I limit the memory usage of boinc? I'm running rosetta.
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14:42 <PovAddict> if you think rosetta is using too much memory, then "limiting it" will make BOINC not run Rosetta tasks at all
14:43 <Pinchiukas> So there is no way to make it use less memory?
14:43 <PovAddict> ask Rosetta developers :)
14:43 <Pinchiukas> I only have 1GB of ram and a dual-core cpu so boinc slows my machine down significantly.
14:43 <PovAddict> if their calculations need that much memory, then it can't use less
14:43 <PovAddict> if it could, it would already
14:44 <Pinchiukas> What is this "use at most <percentage> memory" setting then?
14:45 <PovAddict> if you set that, BOINC may run only one Rosetta task at once (and leave one of your CPU cores idle unless you have other projects), or may stop running Rosetta completely if it can't even fit a single task in the memory limit you specified
14:46 <Pinchiukas> My experience says this function doesn't work at all.
14:46 <PovAddict> that may be true :)
14:46 <PovAddict> where are you setting that?
14:46 <Pinchiukas> It runs a lot more processes than without limiting the memory and slows my machine down to a crawl.
14:46 <Pinchiukas> Once it ran 6 processes ~300MB ram each.
14:46 <PovAddict> no, that's not true
14:47 <Pinchiukas> Uhh... yes it is.
14:47 <PovAddict> a single process forks twice
14:47 <PovAddict> all three use *the same* 300MB of RAM
14:47 <Pinchiukas> I set it in advanced > preferences.
14:47 <Pinchiukas> PovAddict: is "private bytes" shared memory? :)
14:48 <PovAddict> when a process fork()s, its child doesn't use any more memory; copy-on-write
14:48 <Pinchiukas> I don't think they forked.
14:48 <Pinchiukas> I think boinc ran them all.
14:48 <PovAddict> ps auxf
14:48 <Pinchiukas> I'm using winblows.
14:49 <PovAddict> oh then there is no such thing as a "fork"
14:49 <Pinchiukas> So WTF is boinc doing?!
14:49 <PovAddict> you can use Process Explorer to see the process tree
14:49 <PovAddict> what process started the others
14:49 <Pinchiukas> I am doing that.
14:49 <PovAddict> do you see 'boinc.exe' with six child processes?
14:50 <PovAddict> or does boinc.exe have two child processes, each with two more?
14:50 <Pinchiukas> I think there were six child processes.
14:51 <Pinchiukas> I slowed my machine down to a crawl.
14:51 <Pinchiukas> Even more than usually.
14:51 <PovAddict> then Rosetta isn't a project for you, I guess
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14:53 <Pinchiukas> Or boinc is broken bad.
14:53 <PovAddict> two 300MB tasks would still be too much for a system with 1GB
14:54 <Pinchiukas> Well maybe I could run one then.
14:54 <PovAddict> change your settings to "use at most 1 CPU"
14:55 <Pinchiukas> How much does f@h use?
14:55 <PovAddict> f@h isn't even BOINC-based
14:55 <PovAddict> I never ran it, I don't know anything about its requirements
14:55 <Pinchiukas> Ok.
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15:34 <FreeLarry58> oh i see willy talking a break - his site hasn't updated since yesterday - or maybe affectd by the power outages somewhere
15:36 * FreeLarry58 makes note to self - not to recommend vista ultimate to anyone unless they are going to use a monster hd -- close to 140 gig reserved for vista by itself
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15:36 <FreeLarry58> morn doug
15:36 <wdsmia> Afternoon Larry
15:37 <FreeLarry58> guess it is
15:49 * wdsmia is restoring Vista on one of the quads
15:50 <Tank_Master> afternoon
15:51 <Nickuwo> hey TAnk
15:52 * CoderForLife has discovered a true waste of time
15:52 * CoderForLife is watching wdsmia restore Vista on one of the quads
15:53 <PovAddict> don't hold your breath
15:54 <CoderForLife> I have an acute case of Vista Attention Deficit Disorder
15:54 <wdsmia> lol
15:56 <efc> moo
16:01 <CoderForLife> moo
16:01 <CoderForLife> I need to go find some food - bbiab
16:05 <efc> camera won't focus well if I try a really close shot
16:40 <efc> I got a pretty smooth 3 degree taper ground into it
16:44 <MTughan> &seen Soul_keeper
16:44 <Romulus> MTughan: Soul_keeper was last seen in #boinc 2 weeks, 1 day, 16 hours, 7 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: <Soul_keeper> thanks
16:45 <MTughan> &any Soul_keeper
16:45 <Romulus> MTughan: Soul_keeper was last seen in #boinc 2 weeks, 1 day, 16 hours, 6 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: *** Soul_keeper has parted #boinc ("Leaving")
16:45 <MTughan> Hmm.
16:45 <MTughan> He's on the server though. :o
16:45 <efc> He said he was leaving for good
16:46 <MTughan> He was? That would explain it...
16:46 <CoderForLife> he's over on his IRC chat room - #linuxsociety
16:46 <MTughan> I know he had a bit of a fallout with Willy of BOINCStats after he was banned for scraping.
16:46 <MTughan> He's also in #slamd64
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19:05 <CoderForLife> what kind of medical history information form would ask if you have guns or not?
19:06 <PovAddict> chance of shooting yourself
19:08 <CoderForLife> It also asks if I use a bike helmet
19:08 <CoderForLife> If I have a carbon monoxide detector
19:08 <CoderForLife> If I chat online with Canadians and Argentines
19:09 <CoderForLife> oh, misread that last one
19:09 <wdsmia> lol
19:10 <CoderForLife> no questions on Mexico
19:11 <CoderForLife> No credit for the radon mitigation system I had to install...
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22:32 <Nickuwo> hmm, no zombie...
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22:45 <Romulus> New news from boinc: BOINC news May 17, 2009
23:12 <infinisoft> No link? D:
23:12 <infinisoft> Guess its from the main berkeley site
23:12 <PovAddict> just go to boinc front page
23:12 <PovAddict> it's news about a podcast mentioning boinc, nothing too important :)
23:13 <infinisoft> Is there a boinc version that supports exlusive_apps and has a fairly stable cc/scheduler
23:14 <PovAddict> do you need GPU?
23:14 <infinisoft> No
23:15 <PovAddict> platform?
23:15 <Romulus> platform is still immature and pricey for now, PovAddict
23:15 <infinisoft> I have 6.2.19 right now, just want a stable upgrade that has exclusive_apps option
23:15 <infinisoft> win 32 bit
23:17 <infinisoft> I hear that when they were toying with the GPU that sometimes the CPU scheduler gets borked so I'm not sure which versions do that, if any
23:18 <infinisoft> GPU support*
23:18 <PovAddict> afaik, all versions with GPU support have a borked scheduler/workfetch
23:18 <infinisoft> Eek. :(
23:21 <MTughan> 6.2.19 and 5.10.45 are the best versions if you don't need GPU, as I've heard.
23:21 * PovAddict checks out 6.2.19 code
23:22 <infinisoft> Dang, but it doesn't have exclusive apps option, right?
23:22 <infinisoft> I have a watchdog program that's doing the same thing but it is a pain to have to run
23:24 <PovAddict> well, according to unix philosophy, that's the right way to do it :)
23:25 <PovAddict> one app per task, interacting with each other :)
23:30 <infinisoft> Is 'ol who? still posting crazyness anywhere
23:31 <PovAddict> ?
23:34 <infinisoft> Intel guy who used to post on Seti and elsewhere
23:34 <PovAddict> ah yes
23:34 <PovAddict> the grammar of your message was confusing
23:34 <PovAddict> it always is when referring to someone called "who?"
23:34 <PovAddict> I don't frequent SETI forums
23:36 <infinisoft> Heh, yeah
23:40 <PovAddict> infinisoft: I could try backporting the exclusive_app feature to 6.2.19, but I don't have any way to compile it on Windows
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23:41 <infinisoft> Oh, thats OK then, I don't have a windows compiler either
23:42 <infinisoft> Do you know where I could look in the source for that though, maybe for future reference? :D
23:44 <PovAddict> it's split across several files
23:45 <Romulus> Title: Changeset 16087 - BOINC - Trac (at boinc.berkeley.edu)
23:45 <PovAddict> that's the basic change; it still didn't work correctly, and only on Linux
23:45 <PovAddict> there are later changes improving the feature
23:45 <infinisoft> oh ok, thanks!
23:52 <PovAddict> oops, we need 16084 first
23:59 <infinisoft> ok, I've bookmark that too, I might get visual studio eventually and play around with compilation :p
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