00:01 <PovAddict> hmm backporting doesn't seem too easy, applying the patches directly gives errors
00:03 <infinisoft> missing variables?
00:03 <PovAddict> mostly, yes
00:04 <PovAddict> a lot of settings were added
00:04 <PovAddict> so the patch context doesn't match at all
00:09 <MTughan> 404
00:10 <PovAddict> oops, apps
00:10 <PovAddict> try now
00:10 <MTughan> Still.
00:10 <PovAddict> .. <.<
00:10 <MTughan> Unless these are IPv6 issues again...
00:10 <PovAddict> clearly I need sleep
00:11 <MTughan> That one works.
00:12 <Romulus> Title: Debian Quality Assurance -- Popularity Contest Statistics (at qa.debian.org)
00:13 <MTughan> What's the dip around August 2008?
00:13 <PovAddict> who knows...
00:14 <PovAddict> note popularity-contest is not enabled by default
00:14 <PovAddict> not everyone who installed boinc reported it to the debian stats site
00:14 <MTughan> Yep, but stilll.
00:14 <MTughan> still*
00:14 <MTughan> &math 100/1400
00:14 <Romulus> MTughan: 0.0714285714286
00:15 <MTughan> Lost about 7% of the installed base with stats reporting.
00:15 <PovAddict> that's not "7% uninstalled it"
00:16 <PovAddict> that's "it was installed by 7% less people than in the previous month"
00:16 <MTughan> Oh...
00:16 <MTughan> Okay, doesn't seem as bad now. :)
00:16 <PovAddict> *I think*
00:17 <MTughan> I'll take your word on it. That makes more sense for a package installer to be noting that.
00:17 <MTughan> s/installer/manager/
00:17 <infinisoft> Looked at glibc, it has the same 'dip'
00:17 <PovAddict> hmm no it's not
00:18 <MTughan> PovAddict: No it's not installs per month, or glibc doesn't have the same dip?
00:19 <PovAddict> it's total machines reporting stats that currently have it installed
00:19 <Romulus> Title: Debian Quality Assurance -- Popularity Contest Statistics (at qa.debian.org)
00:19 <MTughan> So it is total number of installs.
00:19 <PovAddict> I doubt it's 90k per month
00:19 <MTughan> True.
00:20 <MTughan> But it does look like glibc does have a bit of the same dip, so maybe there was a bug in popcon that cause people to uninstall it until the bug was fixed?
00:20 <PovAddict> it may be a bug in popcon that caused people not to report statistics
00:21 <MTughan> True.
00:21 <PovAddict> http://qa.debian.org/popcon-graph.php?packages=boinc-manager this one is more interesting
00:21 <MTughan> Because if approximately 7% of Debian users who had BOINC uninstalled it, that'd be big.
00:21 <MTughan> Hmm... Big dip in recent. Was that when 6.4.x stable was released? xD
00:22 <PovAddict> maybe the other way around: maybe that was after a period of Debian not releasing upgrades
00:23 <PovAddict> percent of Debian users
00:23 <Romulus> Title: Ctrl+Alt+Del (at cad-comic.com)
00:25 <infinisoft> gonna grab a midnight snack, bbiab.
00:26 <Romulus> Title: xkcd - A Webcomic - Outreach (at xkcd.com)
00:28 <MTughan> Heh, yeah. Flying sharks. xD
00:49 <infinisoft> Oh, Thanks for uploading that diff, Pov.
01:01 <infinisoft> Ugh, my RAC is too low to post in SETI now :(
01:05 <MTughan> "Lasers make everything better." "Well, except for Alderaan." xD
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01:36 <CoderForLife> sleep is overrated
01:44 <efc> moo
01:44 <MTughan> 'lo e
02:03 * CoderForLife goes for a quick snack and then back to bed
02:10 <efc> Zzz
02:15 <efc> hehe.. "In June 2005, a liquidator offered two million CueCats for sale at $0.30 each (in quantities of 500,000 or more)."
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05:06 <CoderForLife> sleep is overrated
05:06 <MTughan> I believe I've seen you say that 4 times now at least.
05:07 <MTughan> xcamel: BTW, there's a new version of Supybot out.
05:07 <Tank_Master> supybot?
05:07 <Romulus> It has been said that supybot is user-friendly, Tank_Master
05:07 <MTughan> Supybot == Rommie
05:07 <Tank_Master> you sure aint, Romulus
05:08 <CoderForLife> brb breakfast
05:08 <MTughan> &version
05:08 <Romulus> MTughan: The current (running) version of this Supybot is 0.83.3. The newest version available online is 0.83.4.
05:09 <Tank_Master> minor revision
05:09 <MTughan> Sort of.
05:09 <MTughan> It's the first release in about 1.5 years.
05:09 <Tank_Master> probably just means they chaged a line of code for the heck of it to make it look like they actually work on something
05:09 <MTughan> It fixed a problem with my Supybot where it only liked joining one network at a time.
05:12 <MTughan> Ah, found release notes... Fixes Python 2.6 compatibility and a major overhaul of the Google plugin.
05:12 <MTughan> And a couple others.
05:13 <Tank_Master> anywho, im off to bed
05:13 <Tank_Master> gn ye all
05:13 <MTughan> Night TM.
05:13 <CoderForLife> b
05:35 <CoderForLife> bbiab
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06:10 <CoderForLife> b
06:10 <MTughan> 'lo CFL
06:11 <CoderForLife> hiya Michael
06:12 <CoderForLife> just changed into my street clothes from my Coder magic robes
06:24 <CoderForLife> off to w@#% - we'll see how it goes today
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06:33 <Romulus> WB, Boss
06:33 <MTughan> 'lo Jay
06:36 <hawmps> hi
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06:37 <MTughan> I can help you fix that so you aren't auto-opped if you'd like.
06:37 <hawmps> it's fine the way it is..
06:37 <MTughan> K.
06:37 <MTughan> Also, there's an update to Supybot that was released yesterday. Dunno if you want to update Rommie at some point.
06:38 <hawmps> I tend to let the updates run for a couple months before jumping on an update
06:39 <MTughan> How's the weather over there?
06:39 <hawmps> cloudy, chilly.
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07:41 <hawmps> looks like our power problems here are fixed now..
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07:48 <jackygrahamez_> hi
07:48 <jackygrahamez_> &wx 20011
07:48 <Romulus> jackygrahamez_: Temperature: 52.5°F / 11.4°C | Humidity: 45% | Pressure: 30.29in / 1025.6hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 5.0mph / 8.0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs in the mid 60s. North winds 10 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Clear. Lows in the lower 40s. North winds 5 to 10 mph in the evening...becoming light and variable.; Tuesday - Sunny. Highs in the mid (1 more message)
07:48 <jackygrahamez_> %more
07:48 <jackygrahamez_> &more
07:48 <Romulus> jackygrahamez_: 70s. North winds around 5 mph... becoming east around 5 mph in the afternoon.;
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07:53 <jackygrahamez_> when will the Q end :-(
07:54 <MTughan> jackygrahamez_: Did you get the unzip apps?
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08:11 <jackygrahamez_> ah oh did you email it?
08:12 <MTughan> No, I posted a link on #boinc_dev.
08:12 <jackygrahamez_> oh I kind of zonked out Saturday night
08:15 <jackygrahamez_> could you give me the link? I don't have it
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09:50 <jackygrahamez_> any recommendations for a good irc mac client
09:50 <jackygrahamez_> ?
09:50 <MTughan> XChat Aqua or Colloquy.
10:21 <hawmps> snak works well too..
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10:44 <Jackygrahamez> hi
10:45 <MTughan> 'lo
10:45 <Jackygrahamez> I'm back with a better client!!! :-)
10:45 <MTughan> XChat Aqua. Used to use it. Only reason I switched was because I didn't like how it looked. :P
10:46 <Jackygrahamez> I had a shareware irc that was bugging me with license
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11:08 <PovAddict> Jackygrahamez: dd@h down?
11:18 <Nickuwo> when a wu gets canceled by "exceeding cpu time limit" is that rsc_fpops_bound?
11:19 <PovAddict> yes
11:19 <Nickuwo> good
11:19 <Nickuwo> seems like poor wording
11:19 <PovAddict> what is?
11:20 <Nickuwo> isnt rsc_fpops_bound a number of operations? not an amount of time
11:20 <Nickuwo> i guess indirectly related...
11:20 <Nickuwo> fpop/s
11:20 <PovAddict> well yes
11:21 <PovAddict> if you set a limit of "2 hours", and I run your project on a 200MHz machine, it will probably reach the limit
11:21 <PovAddict> even though it's more than enough for a modern computer
11:22 <Nickuwo> but rsc_fpops_bound is a number of operations... same WU should take the same number of operations on any comp, no?
11:22 <PovAddict> it's all estimates
11:22 <PovAddict> you can never know how many "operations" it will need
11:22 <Nickuwo> hmm
11:26 <PovAddict> plus, something as simple as reading a number from memory may take anywhere from 2 CPU cycles (L1 cache) to millions of CPU cycles (swapped to mechanical hard disk)
11:29 <Nickuwo> i c
11:29 <PovAddict> computer speed hasn't been deterministic for a few decades now :)
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12:32 <jasong> Something you guys might be interested in:
12:32 <Romulus> Title: Wolfram|Alpha (at www.wolframalpha.com)
12:32 <MTughan> We've seen it already. Well, I have at least.
12:32 <jasong> Thanks, Rommie, you're a big help
12:32 <Romulus> MTughan: The operation succeeded.
12:32 <MTughan> &wolfram Neptune
12:34 <jasong> Oh wow, pretty soon it will have had it's first Neptune year since it was discovered
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14:20 * KathrynM hates it when she can't sleep
14:20 <PovAddict> the usual insomnia?
14:20 <KathrynM> pretty much
14:30 <hawmps> been there, done that.
14:30 <hawmps> then it takes several days to recover
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15:18 <hawmps> 'lo ElG
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15:59 <xcamel> 'lo
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16:36 <Tank_Master> KM!
16:36 <mweltin> hey tank
16:36 <mweltin> have a nice weekend?
16:36 <Tank_Master> howdy mw
16:36 <Tank_Master> no
16:37 <Tank_Master> guy who said we was gonna buy my comp on firday never got back to me :(
16:37 <Tank_Master> but I did have a good time at the beach on friday
16:37 <mweltin> really the fact that it was absolutely beautiful outside didn't out shine the computer sale.
16:37 <mweltin> well at least you had that.
16:37 <Tank_Master> was to hot
16:40 <Tank_Master> did you have a good weekend?
16:40 <mweltin> no but it had nothting to do with the weather.
16:41 <mweltin> my student workers totally messed up a working code base, and my wife was upset about our home situation and wanted to tell me all about it.
16:42 <mweltin> my dog and I had a good time walking around so that was fun.
16:43 <xcamel> space.com: The Space Shuttle Atlantis crew has completed its equipment replacements and repairs of the Hubble Space Telescope. Tomorrow they will release the Hubble back into open space.
16:43 <PovAddict> w00t
16:46 <xcamel> only one small snafu... and they fixed that one too.
16:46 <xcamel> low gain antenna bump.
16:47 <CoderForLife> re-hi
16:49 <xcamel> 'lo CFL
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16:50 <CoderForLife> hey jay
16:50 <CoderForLife> HST all fixed up?
16:51 <CoderForLife> excellent
16:51 <xcamel> seems it is, thanks to duct tape.
16:52 <CoderForLife> that was one of 3 main tools in the power plant - duct tape, sledge hammer, cutting torch
16:52 <xcamel> NASA just reported that when the astronaut leaned over to grab a piece of foreign matter floating under the Hubble, his back pack bumped against the low gain antenna and knocked off the thermo cover ball. NASA said they were able to send an astronaut back to the antenna and put another insulation ball on the end of the exposed copper antenna wires. They have since tested the low gain antenna and said the new ball (a little larger than the
16:52 <xcamel> original) was working to keep the antenna insulated and had no effect on the antenna's function. All is well again. The crew of Atlantis and the base teams have done a FANTASTIC job even when confronted with an entirely NEW obstacle.
16:52 <CoderForLife> heh
16:52 <xcamel> Viola!
16:52 <CoderForLife> bbiab - dinner
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17:38 <xcamel> 'lo Jack
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17:56 <CoderForLife> lo jack got hi jacked
17:57 <PovAddict> very punny
17:57 <CoderForLife> gn
17:58 <CoderForLife> my purpose here is to entertain
17:58 <CoderForLife> ttfn
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18:29 <xcamel> Biden's secret bunker: http://www.lookalike.com/lookalikes/images/archie-bunker.jpg
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20:01 <xcamel> &wx 12074
20:01 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 47.6°F / 8.7°C | Humidity: 69% | Pressure: 30.30in / 1026.0hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 4.0mph / 6.4km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy this evening...then clearing. Areas of frost after midnight. Cold with lows in the lower 30s. Northwest winds around 5 mph this evening...becoming light and variable.; Tuesday - Areas of frost in the morning. (1 more message)
20:01 <xcamel> &more
20:01 <Romulus> xcamel: Mostly sunny. Not as cool with highs in the lower 70s. Southwest winds around 5 mph... increasing to 10 to 15 mph in the afternoon.; Tuesday Night - Partly cloudy. Not as cool with lows in the mid 40s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph...becoming south around 5 mph after midnight.; Freeze Warning for Saratoga County in effect until 8:00 AM EDT on May 19, 2009;
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20:23 <xcamel> 'lo Ed
20:24 <efc> Hey
20:25 <efc> Did you see the pictures of the pipe I was working on?
20:26 <efc> 3 degree taper ground into it
20:28 <efc> Hows the Jeep mod going?
20:33 <xcamel> all done.. runs great..
20:39 <efc> The wilderness will never be the same.
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20:46 <xcamel> only my own backroad so far..
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23:39 <quail> &convert currency 14.99 usd aud
23:39 <Romulus> quail: Error: The command "convert" is available in the Currency and Math plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "convert".
23:39 <MTughan> currency convert
23:39 <quail> ¤cy convert 14.99 usd aud
23:39 <MTughan> ¤cy convert 14.99 USD to AUD
23:39 <Romulus> quail: 14.99 usd = 19.56 aud
23:39 <Romulus> MTughan: 14.99 usd = 19.56 aud
23:40 <quail> ¤cy convert 41.97 usd aud
23:40 <Romulus> quail: 41.97 usd = 54.80 aud