IRC logs of #boinc for Sunday, 2009-06-07

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08:47 <xcamel> 'lo

08:48 <xcamel> &wx 12074

08:48 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 60.3F / 15.7C | Humidity: 61% | Pressure: 30.01in / 1016.1hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Today - Partly sunny this morning...then mostly cloudy with a chance of showers this afternoon. Highs in the mid 70s. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers in the (1 more message)

08:48 <Takanuva> xcamel: Temperature: 60.3F / 15.7C | Humidity: 61% | Pressure: 30.01in / 1016.1hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Today - Partly sunny this morning...then mostly cloudy with a chance of showers this afternoon. Highs in the mid 70s. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers in the evening... then (1 more message)

08:48 <ELGono> &weather meiningen,germany

08:49 <Takanuva> ELGono: Temperature: 59°F / 15°C | Humidity: 67% | Pressure: 29.68in / 1005hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 16mph / 26km/h | Updated: 2:20 PM CEST; Chance of Rain. High:14 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:6 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:17 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:8 C.; Chance of Rain. High:19 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:11 C.;

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11:58 <xcamel> romy was getting overheated.. needed to clean the box.

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11:59 <xcamel> should stay running now

12:00 <mib_4richa> wtf? I just joined QMC@home and finished downloading the first job. How can it display "270 hours estimated" ?????

12:00 <mib_4richa> 270 hours to complete?!?!?!?!?

12:01 <xcamel> most likely not - first job time will be much less.

12:01 <xcamel> &wx 12074

12:01 <Takanuva> xcamel: Temperature: 67.5F / 19.7C | Humidity: 43% | Pressure: 30.00in / 1015.8hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Today - Partly sunny this morning...then mostly cloudy with a chance of showers this afternoon. Highs in the mid 70s. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers in the evening... (1 more message)

12:01 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 67.5F / 19.7C | Humidity: 43% | Pressure: 30.00in / 1015.8hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Today - Partly sunny this morning...then mostly cloudy with a chance of showers this afternoon. Highs in the mid 70s. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers in the (1 more message)

12:01 <xcamel> &more

12:01 <Romulus> xcamel: evening... then partly cloudy after midnight. Lows in the mid 50s. North winds around 5 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Monday - Partly sunny. Highs in the mid 70s. North winds around 5 mph.;

12:01 <Takanuva> xcamel: then partly cloudy after midnight. Lows in the mid 50s. North winds around 5 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Monday - Partly sunny. Highs in the mid 70s. North winds around 5 mph.;

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12:02 <xcamel> nutz..

12:02 <mib_4richa> I'll leave qmc then

12:02 <xcamel> who owns Takanuva?

12:04 <mib_4richa> slow cpus can't help, in term of watt / performance newer cpus win by a large margin

12:04 <CoderForLife> MTughan

12:04 <xcamel> ok..

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12:05 <xcamel> I have to tell him to keep 'tak' in the dougout for now..

12:05 <xcamel> er dugout even

12:07 <xcamel> How you doing, Don?

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12:12 <Tank_Master> http://pastebin.ca/1450863

12:12 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - Unnamed - post number 1450863 (at pastebin.ca)

12:12 <Takanuva> Title: pastebin - Unnamed - post number 1450863 (at pastebin.ca)

12:13 <Tank_Master> ^^ thats one long message from the server at freehall :P

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12:15 <Nickuwo> haha. I'm no adult. I'm 16

12:15 <Nickuwo> nice

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12:29 <PovAddict> so what

12:42 <CoderForLife> back

12:42 <CoderForLife> I'm doing fair, Jay - better living through chemistry

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12:46 <PovAddict> Nickuwo: I was 15 when I started playing with the boinc server

12:47 <PovAddict> you could say tobias is clueless but you cant laugh for him being young

12:48 <CoderForLife> .. away

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12:58 <Nickuwo> nope, wasnt laughing for being young. laughing because ive used the same excuse

13:00 <PovAddict> lol

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15:42 <xcamel> all fixed.

15:42 <xcamel> lucky I has an old spare agp card

15:43 <FreeLarry58> ohh those are definitely hard to find

15:43 <efc> Romulus: Is your solid holigram projector working again?

15:43 <Romulus> efc: Are you daft?

15:44 <MTughan> Why not put the bots on a headless server?

15:45 <FreeLarry58> upgrade the sifes old machine's video card -- it had an epci 6200tc w/64 M mem - now an 8400gs with 256 -- works a little better

15:45 * efc is still using an AGP card ..

15:45 <FreeLarry58> same on this machine

15:46 <PovAddict> MTughan: might be cuda-ing :P

15:46 <FreeLarry58> had to replace one for the bro in law once a year ago - took looking in 5 stores to find one that was used

15:46 <xcamel> because that machine is doing other things that need to be **seen**

15:46 <xcamel> [duh]

15:47 <efc> They still had them on newegg last time I looked, pretty fast ones too (for agp)

15:47 <efc> I had thought about getting one on this thing but I should just replace the whole machine

15:47 <FreeLarry58> i try to suport local stores when i can efc

15:47 <FreeLarry58> every little bit helps

15:47 <efc> Thought about getting a PCI card too but then that old P200 croaked

15:48 <FreeLarry58> humm think i missed that phase

15:48 <FreeLarry58> or have forgotten

15:48 <efc> Just for laughs I was gonna put a relatively fast PCI 3d card on a p200 and see what happens

15:48 <FreeLarry58> ahh

15:49 <efc> It came with a 2d card (STB Lightspeed 128)

15:49 * FreeLarry58 still remembers when most mb's came with onboard video to support a green screen

15:49 <efc> Pretty good card for the time. Could have used some more vram though.

15:50 <FreeLarry58> well time for dailies and commute so

15:50 <FreeLarry58> &tca

15:50 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: Are you daft?

15:50 <efc> later freelarry

15:50 <FreeLarry58> &bye ?

15:50 <Romulus> later ace

15:51 <MTughan> &alias add bye tca

15:51 <Romulus> MTughan: The operation succeeded.

15:51 <MTughan> Oh shoot...

15:51 <MTughan> &alias add bye "echo later ace"

15:51 <Romulus> MTughan: The operation succeeded.

15:51 <MTughan> &alias add tca bye

15:51 <Romulus> MTughan: The operation succeeded.

15:51 <MTughan> There. :)

15:51 <MTughan> &tca

15:51 <Romulus> later ace

15:52 <PovAddict> you didn't just make an infinite loop did you?

15:52 <PovAddict> ah nope, just my lag

15:52 <MTughan> I wouldn't've anyway. I didn't make tca before.

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16:00 <efc> I bet I'd save a few watts just replacing this p4 2.8 with a core2.. maybe not with a quad though

16:03 <Tank_Master> theres not much diffrence between the quad and the dup

16:03 <Tank_Master> duo*

16:09 <efc> You'd think there'd be about.. twice

16:10 <efc> maybe not so much at idle, but they'll never be idle!

16:10 <PovAddict> yeah who cares about idle consumption for BOINC machines :)

16:10 <PovAddict> if they aren't BOINCing they're off

16:11 <MTughan> Or have run out of disk space.

16:11 <PovAddict> lol

16:11 <Tank_Master> no, they are a waste of space and should be sold off to buy new comps to crunch with or upgrade the current ones

16:11 <PovAddict> &whatis dd@h

16:11 <Romulus> PovAddict: "dd@h" could be (#1) DrugDiscovery@Home, new BOINC project, models the behavor of leading compounds that could be developed into new medicines, or (#2) Main site w/information http://drugdiscoveryathome.com/, or (#3) BOINC page: http://boinc.drugdiscoveryathome.com/

16:11 <efc> On the other hand if I got a CUDA gpu maybe the cpu doesn't even matter all that much, a Duo might suffice

16:12 <efc> Haven't really studied the various options since they got so complicated

16:12 <Tank_Master> true

16:12 <PovAddict> I'm making a graph of projects: http://stuff.povaddict.com.ar/nicolas/projects.php

16:12 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/d4dgqd> (at stuff.povaddict.com.ar)

16:12 <MTughan> Well, that's what happened to me a couple days ago. Mac ran out of disk space, and the BOINC CC quit.

16:13 <MTughan> I have to keep a close eye on my desktop's space too. It's low, but I haven't run out yet.

16:14 <efc> XML Parsing Error: junk after document element ?

16:15 <PovAddict> wfm

16:15 <PovAddict> or not

16:15 <PovAddict> there we go

16:15 <efc> Its a meta-statement on the state of BOINC.

16:15 <PovAddict> I think I'll make it output PNG instead, though

16:15 <efc> Working now

16:17 <efc> I wish I had come up with a compute-heavy project of my own

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16:18 <efc> I had several of those 15 years ago. But nowdays almost anything I can think of has been done.

16:18 <PovAddict> added hydrogen@home

16:20 <DerMeister> I had one about a year ago. But BOINC wasn't suitable for this

16:20 <PovAddict> please contribute edges and nodes to my graph :)

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16:26 <efc> If that FPGA thing had worked out I would have had a few % of the total S@H output, before CUDA of coarse

16:26 <efc> didn't make much since after cuda

16:27 <yoyo[RKN]> moin

16:27 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx sxf

16:27 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 52°F / 11°C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 29.71in / 1006hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h | Updated: 10:20 PM CEST; Chance of Rain. High:59 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:50 F.; Chance of Rain. High:68 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:50 F.; Rain. High:75 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:55 F.;

16:27 <PovAddict> ah of course

16:27 * PovAddict adds yoyo to the graph

16:27 <yoyo[RKN]> which graph?

16:27 <PovAddict> http://stuff.povaddict.com.ar/nicolas/projects.php

16:27 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/d4dgqd> (at stuff.povaddict.com.ar)

16:28 <yoyo[RKN]> graph og bubbles

16:28 <yoyo[RKN]> s/og/of/

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16:29 * PovAddict connects some more items

16:30 <PovAddict> the current format I'm editing will not... "scale" :)

16:38 <Nickuwo> whichever one of my friends said it was easy to poach an egg in a pot of spinning boiling water was not only foolish, but wrong as well...

16:48 <jasong> Would it be hard to make a popup box that opens after 5 minutes of no mouse and keyboard activity, and then has a way to close it again?  I'm on Linux and I'm trying to keep from logging out of a game I'm playing

16:49 <MTughan> The game automatically logs you out, or the computer goes to sleep?

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17:03 * PovAddict adds apps, starting with yoyo

17:07 <PovAddict> yoyo[RKN]: is OGR open source?

17:07 <PovAddict> can I compile myself everything needed to run OGR WUs from your project?

17:08 <yoyo[RKN]> you mean the dnet client

17:08 <PovAddict> everything that makes up your science app

17:08 <PovAddict> your modified wrapper and the worker from dnet

17:09 <yoyo[RKN]> I never tried to compile the source http://distributed.net/source/

17:09 <Romulus> Title: distributed.net: Public source code (at distributed.net)

17:09 <PovAddict> ah you use their binaries?

17:09 <yoyo[RKN]> yes

17:10 * PovAddict thinks evolutionary-research.net should mention yoyo as the preferred way to contribute CPU time to them :)

17:11 <yoyo[RKN]> for eve yoyo@home runs the small wus. additional Laurence has bigger ones on his website for the native client

17:11 <yoyo[RKN]> s/ev/evo/

17:11 <yoyo[RKN]> brrr

17:11 <yoyo[RKN]> s/eve/evo/

17:12 <PovAddict> lol

17:12 <PovAddict> does any of your apps have CUDA?

17:12 <yoyo[RKN]> no

17:13 <PovAddict> "what project support CUDA" is one question I want my database to be able to answer

17:14 <yoyo[RKN]> http://www.rechenkraft.net/wiki/index.php?title=Cuda

17:14 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/oo3w63> (at www.rechenkraft.net)

17:14 <MTughan> http://blogs.channelinsider.com/secure_channel/content/data_security/early_reports_of_massive_t-mobile_breach.html

17:14 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/p5ndn3> (at blogs.channelinsider.com)

17:16 <PovAddict> !

17:16 <MTughan> I hope no one here uses T-Mobile..

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17:17 <yoyo[RKN]> ui, a own yoyo graph http://stuff.povaddict.com.ar/nicolas/projects.php

17:17 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/d4dgqd> (at stuff.povaddict.com.ar)

17:18 <PovAddict> i removed the rest to make the graph more readable while I work on that part

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17:24 <jasong> oh, sorry, MT, was out for a while.  If there's no mouse or keyboard movement, you get logged out of the game after 10 minutes

17:25 <PovAddict> showing a popup box won't move the mouse, so you'll get logged out anyway

17:25 <PovAddict> attach a vibrator to your mouse

17:25 <jasong> Yeah, but if I'm there, I can just click to close the box, which would be movement

17:26 <PovAddict> oh so you just want to be notified "move the mouse or else you'll be logged out"?

17:26 <jasong> Oh, and I only know of one kind of vibrator and i don't have a reason to own one

17:26 <synapt> I use T-Mobile

17:26 <jasong> yes

17:26 <synapt> I'm not sure what they would get from me though

17:26 <synapt> lol

17:26 <synapt> I don't have anything store'd on the T-Mobile site

17:26 <PovAddict> synapt: list of people you have called

17:27 <synapt> Pov: Ironically a short list considering I pay $150 a month

17:27 <synapt> lol

17:27 <synapt> "T-Mobile subscribers are also the frequent target of e-mail and text messaging phishing scams." I have to say though I've gotten no odd emails or text messages, so

17:28 <synapt> dunno

17:28 <synapt> most I do through my phone is use it as a mobile modem and access SSH through my cell, which is secure anyways

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18:36 * PovAddict re-does his graph in RDF

18:36 * MTughan is helping to deal with a channel takeover...

18:37 <MTughan> Protect your NickServ passwords at all costs. :)

18:37 <PovAddict> @prefix foaf: <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/> .

18:37 <Romulus> Title: FOAF Vocabulary Specification (at xmlns.com)

18:37 <PovAddict> people:mtughan foaf:status "helping deal with a channel takeover" .

18:37 <PovAddict> :P

18:37 <MTughan> Heh.

18:37 <PovAddict> I don't think there is a foaf:status anyway

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18:38 <PovAddict> http://stuff.povaddict.com.ar/nicolas/boinc/projects-graph-rdf.png

18:38 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/pz6sno> (at stuff.povaddict.com.ar)

19:26 <PovAddict> I'm looking for a way to say the boinc:Project yoyo@home is part of the foaf:Organization Rechenkraft...

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20:29 * PovAddict searches IP addresses and finds Nickuwo just clicked :P

20:30 <MTughan> Apple's kicking off WWDC tomorrow. Right now, the main highlights will probably be a new iPhone/iPod touch and Snow Leopard.

20:30 <PovAddict> :O

20:30 <Nickuwo> :) got me

20:30 <MTughan> The so called iPhone 3GS, which is apparently the code name.

20:30 <PovAddict> 3G super?

20:30 <MTughan> It's been speculated to be speed, but no one know for sure.

20:31 * PovAddict adds Ramsey, then

20:31 <MTughan> Also, Snow Leopard probably won't have the new Marble interface, or so a Macrumors article says.

20:32 <MTughan> It hasn't been seen yet, so the source says we probably won't see it this late in the development cycle.

20:46 <MTughan> Sweden's Pirate Party has also secured at least one seat in the European Parliament, and a second is possible.

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