IRC logs of #boinc for Monday, 2009-06-15

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01:46 <MTughan> Nickuwo: What happened to your forum avatar? xD

01:51 <Nickuwo> whaddya mean? I never had one before

01:52 <MTughan> Okay, what's with your new one then? Is that you?

01:52 <Nickuwo> hehe. yea

01:53 <Nickuwo> fancy my hat?

01:53 <MTughan> It's... interesting.

01:54 <Nickuwo> it's big

01:54 <Nickuwo> it might be too much hat for some people to handle

01:55 <efc> 10 gallon hat?

01:56 <Nickuwo> sombrero

01:56 <MTughan>

01:56 <Romulus> <> (at

01:57 <Nickuwo> hmm, i  might have to replace it with

01:57 <Romulus> <> (at

01:58 <Nickuwo> he wears it better than i

01:58 <MTughan> Hold on, I'll crop it for you.

02:00 <MTughan> That was remarkably easy...

02:00 <Romulus> <> (at

02:00 <Nickuwo> hehe. awesome

02:00 <Nickuwo> ill replace it in a few days and see if anyone notices

02:01 <Nickuwo> I'm sure Al will something to say about it

02:02 <Nickuwo> night gents

02:02 <MTughan> Night.

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03:31 <anujsingh> hi

03:31 <MTughan> 'lo

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03:31 <anujsingh> i just installed boinc, on a linux machine,

03:31 <anujsingh> can i start it in text mode? currently linux machine is 500km away from me.

03:32 <MTughan> You downloaded a binary version?

03:32 <anujsingh> i want to start boinc in text mode.

03:32 <anujsingh> MTughan: yes

03:33 <MTughan> From a package, or from BOINC's website?

03:34 <anujsingh> i have binaries on that machines, when i start manager it  throws some gtk initialization and set display properly

03:34 <anujsingh> from BOINC's website

03:35 <MTughan> There should be a run_client script or something?

03:35 <anujsingh> MTughan: I downloaded from BOINC's website,

03:35 <anujsingh> yes, i have and it says no project joined.

03:35 <MTughan> run_script starts BOINC as a daemon. You can then use boinccmd or boinc_cmd to communicate with it.

03:35 <anujsingh> ya right, how to join my machine to the project on command prompt?

03:36 <anujsingh> just a moment

03:36 <MTughan> Use "./boinc_cmd --help" to see possible commands.

03:37 <anujsingh> MTughan: My computer is not attached to any project, client shows this message.

03:37 <anujsingh> so how to attach my machine with a project??

03:38 <MTughan> Do you have an account on the project already?

03:38 <anujsingh> yes i had one.

03:39 <MTughan> Use "./boinccmd --lookup_account <project_url> <email> <password>" to get a key, then use "./boinccmd --project_attach <project_url> <key>" to attach.

03:54 <anujsingh> MTughan: I am getting connection refused,

03:54 <MTughan> With which command?

03:54 <anujsingh> do i have to run something on localhost before running boinccms

03:54 <MTughan> Probably make sure BOINC is running first. "ps aux | grep boinc"

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04:09 <anujsingh> ok i have the key now, sorry my net is too slow.

04:09 <MTughan> np

04:10 <anujsingh> do i need to run as root?

04:10 <anujsingh> is it safe?

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04:10 <MTughan> No, don't run it as root.

04:10 <anujsingh> ok

04:10 <MTughan> No need to, and just creates a security hole.

04:10 <anujsingh> yes

04:10 <anujsingh> ok just a moment.

04:16 <anujsingh> MTughan: as a non root user i did cd /path/to/binaris and ./boinc &

04:16 <anujsingh> it is saying another instance of boinc already running, whereas ps aux| grep boinc has nothing.

04:17 <MTughan> The something else has port 31416 open, although if no other BOINC instance is running, I don't know what would.

04:19 <anujsingh> [anuj@node2 BOINC]$ netstat -a -n | grep 31416

04:19 <anujsingh> nothing, i am going to reboot the machine, and then try again.

04:19 <MTughan> Okay.

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04:27 <anujsingh> MTughan: same error, i am running ./boinc & as a non root user

04:27 <anujsingh> i just rebooted, still i have same error, while running as a non root user.

04:27 <anujsingh> some locking?

04:27 <MTughan> Sounds like maybe a lockfile exists...

04:28 <MTughan> One second.

04:29 <MTughan> Actually, I can't see a lockfile doing this... I've had to kill BOINC uncleanly before and it starts back up without a problem.

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04:42 <anujsingh> MTughan: that reason was due to BOINC had ownership of root, now i copied the binary to the ~ of another user, this time no error

04:43 <MTughan> Odd error, but okay.

04:43 <MTughan> If the binaries just were owned by root, that doesn't make sense to me.

04:43 <MTughan> If the whole directory was owned by root though, that would make sense.

04:43 <anujsingh> now how to check whether my system is connected and working? i can see poll status: in progress on the terminal

04:44 <anujsingh> MTughan: -rw-r--r--  1 root root       0 Jun 15 10:49 lockfile

04:44 <anujsingh>

04:44 <anujsingh> inside /usr/local/src/seti/BOINC

04:45 <MTughan> Hmm.

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04:46 <anujsingh> but cant see lockfile in the ~user/BOINC (non root user)

04:47 <MTughan> May only have been put there for a second or two.

04:47 <MTughan> MTughan> Use "./boinccmd --lookup_account <project_url> <email> <password>" to get a key, then use "./boinccmd --project_attach <project_url> <key>" to attach.

04:47 <MTughan> Might want to try that again if you haven't yet.

04:52 <anujsingh> i have the key, in return.

04:52 <MTughan> Good. Are you able to attach with that now?

04:52 <anujsingh> second time lookup_account giving authorization error

04:53 <MTughan> You have an error code?

04:53 <anujsingh> -155

04:53 <MTughan> &boincerr -155

04:53 <Romulus> MTughan: authentication error

04:53 <MTughan> Heh, no different...

04:53 <anujsingh> Authorization failure: -155

04:54 <MTughan> There are two places where that could be occuring off the top of my head: either boinccmd isn't able to connect to the daemon, or you have the wrong account information inputted...

04:54 <anujsingh> i am going to try with resetting my password on project

04:54 <MTughan> Hold on.

04:54 <MTughan> Try "./boinccmd --get_disk_usage"

04:55 <anujsingh> error 155 with^

04:56 <MTughan> Okay, then it's a little easier to fix.

04:56 <MTughan> Try "./boinccmd --passwd `cat gui_rpc_auth.cfg` --get_disk_usage"

04:59 <anujsingh> MTughan: cat: gui_rpc_auth.cfg: No such file or directory

05:00 <MTughan> You're running from the right directory?

05:00 <MTughan> gui_rpc_auth.cfg should be in the same directory as boinc and boinccmd.

05:00 <anujsingh> i copied *.sh to a user's ~ directory

05:01 <MTughan> Not quite what you want then...

05:01 <anujsingh> then run the script, it created BOINC directory

05:01 <MTughan> BOINC is running?

05:01 <anujsingh> this is from where i am running the commands

05:01 <anujsingh> yes it is

05:01 <MTughan> Can you do a find to look for gui_rpc_auth.cfg then? If BOINC is running, it has to be somewhere.

05:03 <MTughan> What BOINC does is the daemon is designed to be run by itself on a server. So it opens a TCP socket on port 31416 for communication. Both the GUI and command line client connect to that port and then send it commands to control it.

05:03 <MTughan> That socket requires authentication, and by default it's a radomly generated alphanumeric string that's stored in gui_rpc_auth.cfg.

05:03 <anujsingh> MTughan: yes found, under home directory,

05:04 <MTughan> Pass that to cat then, or stick its contents in for --passwd directly.

05:04 <MTughan> I guess BOINC stores its configuration files under the directory it was started from... Which makes sense.

05:05 <anujsingh> got the total disk usage output.

05:05 <MTughan> Okay. Try --lookup_account again.

05:05 <MTughan> This time using the --passwd option with it.

05:13 <anujsingh> MTughan: status = success ; then poll status in progress and then third line is bad password

05:13 <MTughan> Care to pastebin that? I'm not sure what's going on now...

05:13 <MTughan> Been a while since I've used boinccmd.

05:18 <MTughan> WTF? Now I can't use it...

05:19 <anujsingh> today my net is too slow:( after one char i have to wait for 4-5 seconds. sorry.

05:19 * MTughan slaps boinccmd about a bit

05:19 <MTughan> Work, damn you.

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05:24 <MTughan> Gah... Having problems of my own. boinccmd keeps giving authorization error, but I know I have the right password.

05:24 <anujsingh> MTughan:

05:24 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at

05:25 <MTughan> Did you remove your S@H password from there?

05:25 <anujsingh> no not on the pastebin

05:26 <MTughan> Oh, you mixed my passwords up...

05:26 <MTughan> --passwd is for the local BOINC password, but --lookup_account takes another password which is the one you used when you signed up on SETI@home.

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05:28 <anujsingh> ok now i have the key again.

05:29 <MTughan> And now I'm up...

05:29 <anujsingh> after a series of polling status i have key. and i am back to prompt.

05:29 <MTughan> Yep, so now use "./boinccmd --attach_project <project_url> <key>" to attach.

05:31 <MTughan> Unfortunately for end users, the boinccmd application is really just a way for you to call methods over GUI RPC, and looks more like a debugging tool than a command line application.

05:32 <anujsingh> ./BOINC/boinccmd --attach_project  KEY

05:32 <Romulus> Title: SETI@home (at

05:32 <anujsingh> unrecognized command --attach_project

05:32 <MTughan> Hold on, let me confirm the flag name...

05:33 <MTughan> --project_attach, sorry.

05:35 <anujsingh> now i guess i am in, some benchmark is going on.

05:36 <MTughan> Yep, that'll be an initial benchmark to see how fast your processors are, although that should've been done when BOINC was first started.

05:36 <anujsingh> 15-Jun-2009 15:04:53 [] Scheduler request failed: Server returned nothing (no headers, no data)

05:36 <Romulus> Title: SETI@home (at

05:37 <anujsingh> 15-Jun-2009 15:05:18 [---] Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.

05:37 <MTughan> Hmm, the servers are running...

05:38 <MTughan> As of 8 minutes ago anyway.

05:38 <MTughan> What's your SETI@home username?

05:39 <anujsingh> is my email id

05:39 <MTughan> I saw that already, but your username is different.

05:39 <anujsingh> Anuj singh?

05:39 <anujsingh> just a moment i am checking my profile again.

05:40 <MTughan> ?

05:40 <MTughan> I see one machine just attached, a 2.4GHz P4.

05:40 <Romulus> <> (at

05:41 <anujsingh> yes 15-Jun-2009 15:11:12 [SETI@home] Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks

05:41 <anujsingh> it's working

05:41 <MTughan> Yep, you got a task.

05:42 <anujsingh> Thanks MTughan.

05:42 <MTughan> Took a bit... :P

05:42 <MTughan> np

05:42 <anujsingh> now to make it persistent do i need to get keys again?

05:42 <MTughan> No, BOINC will store the key and use it.

05:43 <MTughan> You will have to get the key again if you choose to attach to a different project though.

05:44 <anujsingh> ok so i need 1) boinic daemon running ; 2)  ./BOINC/boinccmd --project_attach  KEY after next reboot,

05:44 <Romulus> Title: SETI@home (at

05:44 <MTughan> Not quite...

05:44 <anujsingh> then?

05:44 <Romulus> hmm... then are is the motivation to help out, anujsingh

05:45 <MTughan> You just need to start BOINC after a reboot. It stores the key internally and stays attached to SETI@Home.

05:46 <anujsingh> and BOINC gets started with ./BOINC/boinc &. Installed boinc binary.

05:46 <anujsingh> only* ?

05:46 <MTughan> Yes.

05:46 <anujsingh> ok great.

05:47 <anujsingh> do we have some logs? currently its running in foreground.

05:48 <MTughan> It should be logged to both stdoutdae.txt and stderrdae.txt.

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06:05 <anujsingh> MTughan: I killed boinc process, now to start i used ./BOINC/run_client

06:05 <anujsingh> again i have 15-Jun-2009 15:35:33 [---] This computer is not attached to any projects

06:06 <MTughan> 15:35? That was 30 minutes ago.

06:07 <anujsingh> this message is of just right now, after i killed the process of boinc.

06:07 <MTughan> From stdout?

06:07 <MTughan> Oh, it is...

06:07 <anujsingh> yes on stdout.

06:08 <MTughan> Seems your server minutes are off from standard hours...

06:08 <anujsingh> ntp?

06:08 <MTughan> Shouldn't matter...

06:08 <anujsingh> ntp i am using.

06:08 <MTughan> How did you kill BOINC?

06:09 <anujsingh> killall boinc

06:09 <MTughan> Next time, use boinccmd --quit...

06:09 <MTughan> Because it sounds like that workunit is lost now.

06:09 <anujsingh> ok

06:10 <anujsingh> i can see after i kill i have Exit requested by user and process was killed with -15

06:11 <anujsingh> signal 15 to boinc

06:11 <MTughan> You're starting BOINC the exact same way you did before?

06:14 <anujsingh> MTughan: now it's working i just used ./BOINC/boinc &

06:14 <MTughan> Okay.

06:14 <anujsingh> 15-Jun-2009 15:43:21 [SETI@home] Starting task 25fe09aa.14795.33513.4.8.14_0 using setiathome_enhanced version 603

06:20 <hawmps> 'lo

06:27 <anujsingh> Mtughan: as you said gui_rpc_auth.cfg must be under BOINC directory, now i have it's under BOINC directory, as well as ~ of user under which i kept the binaries, both the keys are different. which one is in use?

06:28 <MTughan> The one from ./BOINC I would think.

06:29 <anujsingh> i also rebooted the machine, now how to check whats going on in boinc? i have boinc process running,

06:30 <anujsingh> time_stats log has little information

06:30 <anujsingh> time_stats_logs,

06:30 <MTughan> Try "./boinccmd --get_state"

06:31 <anujsingh> same error -155 error

06:31 <MTughan> Try the other gui_rpc_auth then.

06:36 <anujsingh> ./boinccmd --get_state --passwd `cat ~seti/gui_rpc_auth.cfg `

06:36 <anujsingh> 155 error

06:37 <MTughan> From where you run "./BOINC/boinc &", is there a gui_rpc_auth.cfg?

06:39 <anujsingh> yes that one too giving same error,

06:39 <MTughan> Is there a gui_rpc_auth.cfg in ./BOINC then? Or is that the one you tried at first?

06:39 <anujsingh> [seti@node2 BOINC]$ ./boinccmd --get_state --passwd `cat gui_rpc_auth.cfg `

06:40 <anujsingh> [seti@node2 BOINC]$ ./boinccmd --get_state --passwd `cat ~seti/gui_rpc_auth.cfg `

06:40 <anujsingh> same -155 error

06:41 <MTughan> Try putting --get_state after the --passwd `cat`. I don't know if order matters here.

06:44 <anujsingh> yes, now i have some details, i used gui_rpc_auth.cfg from ~ ; BOINC/gu*.cfg is giving auth error -155.

06:45 <anujsingh> as well as changed the order.

06:45 <MTughan> Okay, so you know which one to keep now.

06:45 <anujsingh> yes, now i am going to remove gui*cfg from BOINC, and reboot and then check the status.

06:46 <anujsingh> just a moment.

06:50 <hawmps> &boincerr -155

06:50 <Romulus> hawmps: authentication error

06:51 <anujsingh> ok working fine,

06:51 <anujsingh> thanks MYughan.

06:52 <MTughan> Good.

06:52 <anujsingh> MTughan: thanks for your patience and help.

06:52 <MTughan> np

06:53 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

06:53 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 60.7°F / 15.9°C | Humidity: 94% | Pressure: 29.94in / 1013.8hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. Scattered showers and isolated thunderstorms in the morning...then a chance of thunderstorms in the afternoon. High in the mid 70s. Southeast wind 5 to 15 mph. Gusts up to 25 mph in the afternoon. (1 more message)

06:53 <wdsmia> &more

06:53 <Romulus> wdsmia: Chance of precipitation 50 percent.; Tonight - Thunderstorms likely. Low in the mid 60s. Southeast wind 5 to 15 mph. Chance of thunderstorms 70 percent.; Tuesday - Mostly cloudy with a 50 percent chance of thunderstorms. High in the upper 70s. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph.;

06:54 <anujsingh> one more thing

06:54 <anujsingh>    ready to report: no

06:54 <anujsingh>    got server ack: no

06:54 <anujsingh> in the status

06:54 <MTughan> Yep, because the task isn't finished yet.

06:55 <anujsingh> ok, got it,    active_task_state: 9

06:56 <MTughan> ready to report means that the task has been completed, its final files have been uploaded, but it hasn't let the server know its done yet.

06:56 <MTughan> got server ack means that the client has let the server know the task is done, and the server has acknowledged back.

07:24 <hawmps> wow.. a bunch of mac updates

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07:29 <hawmps> &wx 12020

07:29 <Romulus> hawmps: Temperature: 56.2°F / 13.4°C | Humidity: 97% | Pressure: 29.82in / 1009.7hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 3.0mph / 4.8km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers and thunderstorms this morning...then showers likely with scattered thunderstorms this afternoon. Some thunderstorms may produce small hail and heavy rainfall this afternoon. Highs in the (2 more messages)

07:29 <hawmps> &more

07:29 <Romulus> hawmps: lower 70s. Light and variable winds...becoming southeast around 5 mph this afternoon. Chance of rain 60 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy in the evening...then becoming partly cloudy. A chance of showers in the evening. Patchy fog after midnight. Lows in the lower 50s. South winds around 5 mph in the evening...becoming light and variable. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Tuesday - Partly sunny. (1 more message)

07:29 <hawmps> &more

07:29 <Romulus> hawmps: Highs in the mid 70s. Southeast winds around 5 mph.;

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08:36 <_Danilo_> hi all

08:36 <MTughan> 'lo

08:37 <_Danilo_> ciao MTughan :)

08:37 <MTughan> brb, washroom

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12:11 <MTughan> Hmm, seems I passed 3M two days ago. :D

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12:21 <mweltin> morin' MTughan

12:21 <mweltin> and yoyo

12:25 <Nickuwo> mornin mweltin

12:25 <mweltin> hi Nickuwo

12:27 <yoyo[RKN]> moin

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13:38 <Tank_Master> damn, missed mw

13:39 <Tank_Master> mweltin

13:39 <Tank_Master> congrats MTughan

13:39 <MTughan> ty

13:39 <MTughan> Just about to install a new hard drive...

13:39 <MTughan> Gonna move everything over to it, retire my 5yo drives.

13:40 <Tank_Master> lol

13:40 <Tank_Master> should save on power n noise

13:41 <MTughan> And more than doubles my current storage capacity.

13:41 <MTughan> 280GB -> 640GB

13:41 <Tank_Master> heh

13:41 <Tank_Master> (Drive 1) DriveXpert HDD0 ATA Device, 68.95GB size, 2 partition(s), IDE interface (Drive 2) ST31000340AS ATA Device, 931.51GB size, 1 partition(s), IDE interface (Drive 3) ST31500341AS ATA Device, 1.36TB size, 1 partition(s), IDE interface

13:41 <MTughan> 1TB drive?

13:42 <MTughan> Hmm... 80GB, 1TB, and 1.5TB drives?

13:42 <Tank_Master> and a 1.5TB

13:42 <mweltin> Tank!

13:42 <Tank_Master> 2 34GB raptors make up the first one

13:42 <Tank_Master> RAID 0

13:42 <Tank_Master> howdy mw

13:43 <mweltin> how is life on the west side?

13:44 <Tank_Master> cloudy, cool

13:44 <Tank_Master> we barly got over 60 yesterday I think

13:44 <Tank_Master> &wx 97123

13:44 <Tank_Master> &more

13:44 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: That's all, there is no more.

13:44 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 64.4°F / 18.0°C | Humidity: 66% | Pressure: 29.77in / 1008.0hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. Highs 70 to 75. Northwest wind 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening...then mostly cloudy. Lows 50 to 55. Northwest wind 5 to 10 mph in the evening...diminishing overnight.; Tuesday (1 more message)

13:44 <mweltin> turned into a nice day yesterady

13:44 <Tank_Master> &more

13:44 <Romulus> Tank_Master: - Mostly cloudy in the morning...then partly sunny. Highs 75 to 80. Light wind becoming west 5 to 10 mph in the afternoon.;

13:45 <mweltin> at least on teh east side.   I have been house shopping with my wife. Not looking forward to it much.

13:45 <MTughan> I'm boiling up here, but we're apparently very cool...

13:45 <MTughan> &wx YOW

13:45 <Romulus> MTughan: Temperature: 61°F / 16°C | Humidity: 77% | Pressure: 30.06in / 1018hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h | Updated: 1:00 PM EDT; Today - Cloudy with sunny periods and 70 percent chance of showers. Risk of a thunderstorm. High 21C(70F). UV index 5 or moderate.; Tonight - Cloudy with 70 percent chance of showers early this evening. Risk of a (1 more message)

13:45 <mweltin> it's amazing what a crappy house costs these days.

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13:45 <Tank_Master> lol

13:45 <Tank_Master> ill brb, driver update

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14:03 <Tank_Master> got the quad o/ced some now

14:03 <Tank_Master> 3.35GHz at default voltates :)

14:04 <Tank_Master> (CPU 1) Intel® Core™2 Extreme CPU X9750 @ 3.16GHz (12288KB L2 Cache, LGA 775) @ 3166MHz (352MHz FSB), 100% load

14:07 <MTughan> I'm going to have to back my OC down. Peaking at 66C with the temps.

14:08 <Tank_Master> what cpu?

14:08 <Romulus> I guess what cpu is it running on, Tank_Master

14:08 <Tank_Master> oh stfu rommie

14:09 <MTughan> C2Q Q6600.

14:09 <MTughan> G0 stepping.

14:09 <Tank_Master> your ok at that temp

14:09 <Tank_Master> my i7 is nearing 80C

14:09 <Tank_Master> il brb, need to maually set the multi

14:09 <Tank_Master> on my CPU

14:10 <MTughan> Holy shit... Just took off about a 1/4 of my thumb nail with the computer case...

14:10 <wdsmia> asks MTughan to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.

14:10 <MTughan> For what I broke, doesn't seem to be bleeding much...

14:10 <Tank_Master> oww

14:10 <Tank_Master> stbu

14:11 <MTughan> Yeah, that smarts...

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14:11 <mweltin> ouch

14:14 <MTughan> Seems to have stopped bleeding... And I have the HDs out.

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14:31 <Tank_Master> (CPU 1) Intel® Core™2 Extreme CPU X9750 @ 3.16GHz (12288KB L2 Cache, LGA 775) @ 3509MHz (353MHz FSB), 100% load

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14:38 <MTughan> All right, partition copy is initiated. Planning to put both Win7 and Vista on this disk, along with a separate partition for large data files.

14:43 <Tank_Master> why vista?

14:46 <MTughan> Because I keep it around in case something blows up in Win7.

14:47 <MTughan> Also, I have an experiment... Know the silica gel balls that come with hard drives to absorb moisture?

14:47 <MTughan> What if you put on in a glass of water?

14:47 <MTughan> one*

14:47 <mweltin> oh good idea

14:47 <mweltin> do it doit doitdoitdoitdoit

14:47 <MTughan> Heh, later.

14:51 <korozion> how can I figure out why boinc doesn't seem to be doing anything?

14:54 <korozion>     I followed that giude, as I am on a headless server

14:54 <Romulus> <> (at

14:56 <Nickuwo> korozion: what is it doing?

15:08 <hawmps> might not have gotten work, or you're not attached to a project...

15:11 <MTughan> mweltin: Just did it... First it pops, then it subsides... Poured out the water, seems they crystalized. xD

15:11 <mweltin> SWEET!!!!

15:12 <MTughan> I got pictures too, I'll post later.

15:12 <mweltin> this is why I love #boinc

15:14 <MTughan> Unfortunately, I did think in my drinking cup, so I'll have a bit of a cleanup ahead of me... :P

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15:28 <yoyo[RKN]> moin

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16:06 <xcamel> 'lo

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16:24 <CoderForLife> hey

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17:41 <CoderForLife> heh  "It's official: Obama creates more czars than the Romanovs "

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17:48 <PovAddict> MTughan: pictures?

17:48 <PovAddict> MTughan: who wants that? you need a *video* or it didn't happen :)

17:49 <PovAddict> we're up to web 2.0 now, and there isn't yet anything like "photoshopping" for videos

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18:21 * mweltin makes the observation that shft-ctrl-del (to clear the firefox cache) and ctrl-alt-delete are very close.

18:22 <korozion> Nickuwo: (sorry for the delay)  It seems to have attached to a project, but doesn't seem to be doing anything else

18:23 <mweltin> it could be that the project doesn't have any work.

18:24 <korozion> Seti?

18:24 <Romulus> Somebody said Seti is not very cache-sensitive, so an OC 4300 should do very well, korozion

18:24 <mweltin> you can check the messages in the boinc manager, I think it will mention if there is no work .

18:24 <mweltin> mmmmmmm

18:24 <mweltin> seem unlikely that Seti would be out of work.

18:24 <korozion> hehe yeah

18:24 <Tank_Master> well, they do brake often

18:24 <korozion> does the client log somewhere that I can try to debug?

18:24 <PovAddict> mweltin: yeah right

18:25 <PovAddict> korozion: stdoutdae.txt

18:25 <PovAddict> headless?

18:25 <mweltin> in fact I got teh no jobs available just today from Seti

18:25 <korozion> yeah

18:25 <PovAddict> SETI has 91346 tasks available

18:25 <mweltin> that message came at almost 2pm today

18:25 <korozion> aha!

18:26 <korozion> seems it's running stuff now :)

18:26 <korozion> must have been out at the time, but it's certainly chewing on 4 cpus now

18:26 <korozion> nope, 3

18:26 <korozion> either way, thanks guys

18:27 <mweltin> oh no thank you korozion

18:29 * Tank_Master has had a lot less headachs sence he stoped running SETI

18:30 <korozion> I got an email asking me to rejoin seti, it had been 600 and some-odd days :)

18:30 <korozion> sure is a far cry from the 486 I used to run it on

18:30 <mweltin> Seti headaches are  part of the joy of Boinc.

18:31 <Tank_Master> heh

18:31 <Tank_Master> well, it is better than that dumb TSP project I ran a while back...

18:31 <Tank_Master> :P

18:31 <mweltin> ouch

18:31 <Tank_Master> hehe

18:32 <Tank_Master> (@ korozion, mweltin was the admin of the TSP project)

18:32 <korozion> hehe :D

18:32 <PovAddict> pwnt

18:33 <mweltin> my next project is a long way off.  Turns out the flight dynamics model is a lot harder to do than I thought.

18:33 <mweltin> but isn't everything.

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19:36 <xcamel> one hell of a hail storm earlier..

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20:08 <CoderForLife> size?

20:09 <CoderForLife> were the animals out of it?

20:09 * PovAddict has a nsfw thought in mind

20:09 <CoderForLife> nsfw?

20:10 <PovAddict> "not safe for work"

20:10 <CoderForLife> ah

20:11 <korozion> bbl

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20:11 <CoderForLife> just got the first results back from the latest version of my app - looks like the excess output problem I fixed in 4.14 is really fixed in now in 4.15

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20:12 <CoderForLife> 7500 permutations of the model per WU

20:13 <CoderForLife> 74924 seconds

20:13 <CoderForLife> 7637800 byte results XML file

20:14 <CoderForLife> claimed credit 269.7998

20:16 <CoderForLife> need to watch df with these large uploads

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20:33 * CoderForLife realizes that that is all very interesting

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20:39 <jackygrahamez> hi

20:39 <jackygrahamez> &wx 20011

20:39 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Temperature: 78.3°F / 25.7°C | Humidity: 62% | Pressure: 29.98in / 1015.1hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 4.0mph / 6.4km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Isolated showers and thunderstorms this evening. Lows in the lower 60s. Southeast winds around 5 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Tuesday - Mostly cloudy in the morning...then becoming partly (1 more message)

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21:59 <MTughan> PovAddict: Sorry, I only thought about video after the experiment was already done, and I dumped all the gel in.

22:00 <PovAddict> then pics or it didn't happen

22:00 <MTughan> Need to get them uploaded and filtered first... Have a lot of duplicates.

22:00 <MTughan> I'm still trying to get my desktop up though. GParted does *not* like my Vista partition.

22:03 <MTughan> Got some interesting pictures of various buildings around here at night...

22:03 <MTughan> So helpful actually *having* a camera. ;)

22:07 <MTughan> Raw pictures at for now.

22:07 <MTughan> Oh, one sec... Have to restart Apache.

22:08 <MTughan> Up. About 42MB in all.

22:12 <Tank_Master> daym, I missed jack again

22:12 <Tank_Master> I needed to tell him his WUs suck :P

22:25 * PovAddict sucks MTughan's bandwidth

22:25 <PovAddict> downloading the silica pics

22:25 <PovAddict> five at a time

22:25 <MTughan> Take it. I've got 1MB/s. :)

22:25 * PovAddict is down to 150KB/s :(

22:25 <PovAddict> my theoretical max is over twice that

22:26 <PovAddict> [#7 SIZE:1.2MiB/1.7MiB(69%) CN:1 SPD:28.35KiB/s ETA:18s](4more...) [TOTAL SPD:232.37KiB/s]

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22:28 <Nickuwo> alright wtf are these pics for

22:28 <PovAddict> I'll give you context

22:28 <PovAddict> [15:47] <MTughan> Also, I have an experiment... Know the silica gel balls that come with hard drives to absorb moisture?

22:28 <PovAddict> [15:47] <MTughan> What if you put one in a glass of water?

22:28 <PovAddict> [15:47] <mweltin> oh good idea

22:28 <PovAddict> [15:47] <mweltin> do it doit doitdoitdoitdoit

22:29 <Nickuwo> haha

22:29 <PovAddict> [16:11] <MTughan> mweltin: Just did it... First it pops, then it subsides... Poured out the water, seems they crystalized. xD

22:29 <PovAddict> [16:11] <mweltin> SWEET!!!!

22:29 <PovAddict> [16:12] <MTughan> I got pictures too, I'll post later.

22:31 <MTughan> I didn't put only one in actually, I put the whole packet in.

22:32 <Nickuwo> so they popped when they hit the water? thats awesome

22:32 <Nickuwo> I hear you're supposed to eat them

22:33 <PovAddict> or not

22:33 <MTughan> Yeah... Seems they actually hit the water for a bit, then actually explode apart.

22:33 <MTughan> I didn't notice it before because the water absorbed the energy.

22:34 <PovAddict> did they absorb all of the water, or did you pour it out? :P

22:34 <PovAddict> (        ^^^^^^^^^^ not like that is possible)

22:34 <MTughan> Poured most of it out. I put in a lot of water.

22:47 <MTughan> Hmm... Win7 won't boot either. Just going to do a fresh install, maybe Windows can import settings and stuff from other installs.

23:16 * KathrynM waits for Johnsomerandomnumber to go ballistic

23:17 <PovAddict> his post is only remotely acceptable in SETI cafe

23:18 <KathrynM> I should have just deleted it and went on with life.  But darn, he's such a jerk

23:20 <PovAddict> male-dominated?

23:20 <PovAddict> reminds me of this howto:

23:20 <Romulus> Title: HOWTO Encourage Women in Linux (at

23:22 <KathrynM> yeah, I've read that before.

23:55 <umccullough> sensitivity training!

23:56 <umccullough> anyone else here ever run the reference_work_unit.sah ?

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