IRC logs of #boinc for Monday, 2009-06-22

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01:49 <efc> &wx 31088

01:50 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 81F / 27C | Humidity: 75% | Pressure: 29.79in / 1009hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the mid 70s. Northwest winds up to 10 mph.; Monday - Mostly sunny in the morning...then partly sunny with a 20 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. Highs in the mid 90s. Heat (1 more message)

01:50 <efc> &more

01:50 <Romulus> efc: index readings 99 to 103. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph.; Monday Night - Mostly cloudy with a 20 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms in the evening...then mostly clear after midnight. Lows in the lower 70s. Northwest winds up to 10 mph.;

01:56 <PovAddict> I'm intrigued with landing pages... internet marketing... ebooks...

01:56 <PovAddict> I'm pretty surprised with the idea that such crap actually works and sells

01:58 <PovAddict> i found a 'meta' onr

01:58 <PovAddict> one

01:59 <PovAddict> a page that's almost a perfect stereotype of the kind of landing page I'm talking about, and whose purpose is to sell an ebook on how to make landing pages for eg. ebooks

02:00 <PovAddict> landingpagecashmachine dot com (I dont want to post a working link, would give him hits via Romulus log)

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02:06 <efc> Yeah I run into those occasionally. They are suprisingly successful at getting between me and what I want.

02:09 <MTughan> Ooh, cool desk. http://www.eatliver.com/i.php?n=447

02:09 <Romulus> Title: Star Wars computer mod (at www.eatliver.com)

02:10 <efc> presumably, I can look at the guy's site and figure out all the secrets :P

02:11 <PovAddict> there are hundreds of those ebook landing pages

02:11 <efc> $50/$117 for a PDF, nice

02:11 <PovAddict> the way they're written... sounds almost as if it was the same person/group behind all of them

02:12 <efc> nice desk MTughan.. might have seen it before somewhere

02:12 <efc> I've been thinking about doing a joke site.. maybe if it became a hit I'd make a few bucks

02:12 <PovAddict> I've even seen one about swine flu

02:13 <PovAddict> months ago... impossible he knew anything useful at that point

02:13 <efc> there really is a "google adwords qualified professional", what a load of hooey

02:14 <PovAddict> the internet is for scams

02:14 <PovAddict> and porn

02:15 <efc> yes, my idea was sort of a combo of a scam and porn

02:15 <efc> "professional:" http://adwords.google.com/support/select/professionals/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=12241

02:15 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6huqxw> (at adwords.google.com)

02:17 <PovAddict> google's business is ads, after all...

02:17 <efc> give Google $100k and you get Qualified

02:18 <efc> I think they need some more competition

02:18 <PovAddict> btw, in my previous link

02:18 <PovAddict> of the 'cash machine'

02:19 <PovAddict> in the customer feedback quotes, many leave URLs... check them out :p

02:21 <efc> the yellow stuff scattered everywhere?

02:31 <efc> Bed

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04:15 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

04:15 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 71.2F / 21.8C | Humidity: 83% | Pressure: 29.54in / 1000.2hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny with a slight chance of showers and thunderstorms. Highs in the upper 80s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. A chance of showers and thunderstorms... mainly (1 more message)

04:15 <CoderForLife> &more

04:15 <Romulus> CoderForLife: in the evening. Muggy. Lows in the mid 60s. Northeast winds around 5 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Tuesday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the upper 80s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph.;

04:39 <EL_Gono> moo don

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05:39 <CoderForLife> moo ELGono

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06:35 <CoderForLife> morning Jay

06:39 <hawmps> 'ello

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08:26 <wdsmia_w> &wx 50319

08:26 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: 75.1F / 23.9C | Humidity: 97% | Pressure: 29.72in / 1006.3hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Early This Morning - Mostly clear. Patchy fog. South wind around 5 mph.; Today - Sunny. Hot and humid. Patchy fog early in the morning. High in the mid 90s. Southeast wind near 5 mph. Highest heat index readings 100 to 102 (1 more message)

08:26 <wdsmia_w> &more

08:26 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: in the afternoon.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Low in the lower 70s. Southeast wind near 5 mph. Highest heat index readings around 100 in the evening.;

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10:35 <MTughan> Wow, he really is multiplying...

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13:05 <hawmps> furd burfle strikes again

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13:57 <hawmps> 'lo Tom

13:57 <hawmps> &wx 12020

13:57 <Romulus> hawmps: Temperature: 71.3F / 21.8C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.48in / 998.2hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 19.0mph / 30.6km/h ; Rest of Today - Mostly cloudy with a 30 percent chance of showers. Highs in the mid 70s. North winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Lows in the lower 60s. North winds 10 to 15 (1 more message)

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13:57 <hawmps> &more

13:57 <Romulus> hawmps: mph...diminishing to around 5 mph after midnight.; Tuesday - Partly sunny. Highs in the upper 70s. North winds 5 to 10 mph.;

13:57 <PovAddict> &seen zeeno

13:57 <Romulus> PovAddict: zeeno was last seen in #boinc 6 weeks, 5 days, 16 hours, 12 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: <Zeeno> nice Jay!

14:03 <hawmps> &seen Zeeno

14:03 <Romulus> hawmps: Zeeno was last seen in #boinc 6 weeks, 5 days, 16 hours, 18 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <Zeeno> nice Jay!

14:29 <PovAddict> might have to restart X

14:29 <PovAddict> my mouse stopped working (not even the red led turned on)

14:30 <PovAddict> I unplugged it and reconnected it, now it turns on but still doesn't work

14:30 <PovAddict> and Unix desktop environments completely suck at keyboard-only input

14:31 <PovAddict> but developers are currently busy following the hype, trying to make their apps work on devices with no keyboard (only touch screen)

14:31 <PovAddict> that's obviously more important...

14:31 <PovAddict> ...right?

14:31 * umccullough can't stand not having a keyboard

14:32 <umccullough> i remember someone telling me how to re-load the X mouse driver

14:32 <umccullough> but of course, the importance was so low i forgot

14:32 <PovAddict> well, I mean devices with on-screen keyboards

14:32 <PovAddict> say, iphone

14:32 <umccullough> not the same :(

14:32 <PovAddict> that's where the hype and attention is

14:32 <PovAddict> making a computer usable without a mouse is not a priority at all

14:32 <umccullough> idiots

14:32 <PovAddict> that's one thing Microsoft does right

14:33 <PovAddict> even Windows Live Messenger, with its completely custom UI, is fully usable with a keyboard

14:33 <umccullough> replacing a precise multi-input digital device with a single analog non-precise input device is ... lame

14:33 <umccullough> granted multi-touch is sort of multi-input

14:34 <PovAddict> multi-touch UIs don't yet take advantage of everything they could

14:34 <umccullough> true

14:34 <PovAddict> eg. on the iPhone, on preferences, you can't move two sliders at the same time

14:34 <umccullough> i still prefer the no-nonsense keyboard input

14:34 <umccullough> which happens to work quite well over a serial connection ;)

14:35 <PovAddict> example of a problem I have now

14:35 <PovAddict> Kopete (IM client) is blinking the tray icon to say I have new messages

14:35 <PovAddict> there is no way to "click the tray icon" without a mouse

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14:35 <umccullough> :P

14:35 <umccullough> microsoft has that issue with system tray as well

14:35 <umccullough> oh wait...no

14:35 <PovAddict> no, in Windoze you can tab your way to the tray

14:36 <umccullough> you can tab to the systray :)

14:36 <umccullough> i forgot

14:36 <PovAddict> then use arrows to select the icon, and press Enter

14:36 <umccullough> yep, been a long time since i've tried though :D

14:36 <PovAddict> (one of the few cases where that doesn't work is BOINC Manager tray icon)

14:39 <hawmps> [NNTN] Japan's Satellite Crashes Into the Moon, Sends Back Footage of Its Demise

14:39 <hawmps> http://gizmodo.com/5299620/japans-satellite-crashes-into-the-moon-sends-back-footage-of-its-demise

14:39 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/nq7mmm> (at gizmodo.com)

14:39 <hawmps> oopsie.

14:53 <wdsmia_w> HEAT INDEX VALUES OF 105 TO 110 DEGREES... must be summer

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15:09 <hawmps> yeah... nice.

15:09 <hawmps> You can keep it.

15:10 <PovAddict> &echo [math convert 105 F C] to [math convert 110 F C] degrees

15:10 <Romulus> 40.5555555556 to 43.3333333333 degrees

15:10 <PovAddict> o_O

15:10 <MTughan> That's hot.

15:10 <PovAddict> &wx eze

15:10 <Romulus> PovAddict: Temperature: 58°F / 14°C | Humidity: 26% | Pressure: 30.04in / 1017hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h | Updated: 3:00 PM ART; Partly Cloudy. High:59 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:30 F.; Clear. High:55 F.; Clear. Low:33 F.; Clear. High:55 F.; Clear. Low:33 F.;

15:10 <MTughan> PovAddict: Is that as cold as you get?

15:12 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx sxf

15:12 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 64°F / 18°C | Humidity: 59% | Pressure: 30.18in / 1022hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h | Updated: 8:50 PM CEST; Chance of Rain. High:66 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:51 F.; Scattered Clouds. High:71 F.; Partly Cloudy. Low:53 F.; Chance of Rain. High:75 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:55 F.;

15:12 <hawmps> just made 73 here...

15:13 <hawmps> that big atlantic low sucking all the summer out of things.

15:13 <hawmps> 22.2C

15:15 <CoderForLife> it's a sucky low

15:16 <wdsmia_w> &wx 50319

15:16 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: 94.0F / 34.4C | Humidity: 57% | Pressure: 29.72in / 1006.3hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Rest of Today - Sunny. Hot and humid. High in the lower 90s. Southeast wind near 5 mph. Heat index readings 101 to 106.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Low in the lower 70s. Southeast wind near 5 mph. Highest heat index (1 more message)

15:16 <wdsmia_w> &more

15:16 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: readings 100 to 103 in the evening.; Tuesday - Sunny. Hot and humid. High in the lower 90s. South wind 5 to 15 mph. Highest heat index readings 100 to 102 in the afternoon.; Heat Advisory for Polk County in effect until 7:00 PM CDT on June 23, 2009;

15:18 <hawmps> some nasty storms just missed you, Don..

15:18 <CoderForLife> to the west?

15:18 <CoderForLife> I was looking at them this morning

15:19 <hawmps> yup

15:30 <CoderForLife> another few bullets dodged - I like to count them as the whizz by

15:32 <CoderForLife> as they*

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15:37 <CoderForLife> wb

15:38 <wdsmia_w> ty

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15:40 <MTughan> They shut down the server on him. :P

15:40 <PovAddict> wdsmia_w: affected by the mibbit mess too?

15:41 <MTughan> As I remember, he used Mibbit too.

15:42 <wdsmia_w> I used it here at w@#%

15:44 <CoderForLife> I'm mostly used at w@#%

15:45 <MTughan> In a good or bad way?

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16:33 <xcamel> ok.. world gnarliest surfing move...

16:33 <xcamel> http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/post/Jordy-Smith-pulls-arguably-the-best-surfing-move?urn=top,171898

16:33 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/lwr9ej> (at sports.yahoo.com)

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16:45 <Tank_Master> what about mibbit?

16:48 <DerMeister> Hi ELGono... Did you stopped crunshing einstein for any specific reason?

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17:29 <wdsmia> man it warm out there

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18:30 <jackygrahamez_> no I was not riding the Red Line

19:08 <xcamel> nasty crash?

19:08 <xcamel> I heard 2 dead, several injured.

19:08 <jackygrahamez_> the the death toll rose

19:08 <Tank_Master> hey jackygrahamez_

19:09 <jackygrahamez_> hey Tank_Master

19:09 <Tank_Master> just n fyi - on server 2008 R2 your DD@H WUs always exceed max CPU time

19:09 <Tank_Master> dunno why, but I doubt meny people us that OS, so I wouldnt worry about it just ywt

19:10 <jackygrahamez_> really

19:11 <Tank_Master> yeah, but they work normally on win7...

19:11 <jackygrahamez_> I'm trying to integrate boinc api for autodock

19:11 <Tank_Master> still get soem comp errors, but doesnt sound any different that what others are experencing

19:12 <jackygrahamez_> something happened in the last few weeks that made them start getting really screwy

19:12 <Tank_Master> yeah, but youll fidure it out ;)

19:12 <jackygrahamez_> I could fix the wrapper apps or I could try getting this api working

19:13 <jackygrahamez_> I can compile autodock in cygwin. Compiling it in visual studio is a bit difficult

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19:55 <xcamel> laterz.

20:18 <KathrynM> &wx ulsan

20:18 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 75°F / 24°C | Humidity: 69% | Pressure: 29.59in / 1002hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h | Updated: 9:00 AM KST; Unknown. High:71 F.; Clear. Low:64 F.; Clear. High:77 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:64 F.; Clear. High:80 F.; Clear. Low:66 F.;

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20:40 <MTughan> jackygrahamez_, xcamel: The Red Line?

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23:17 <zombie67> i am getting the itch for a fast machine

23:26 <efc> Apply Gold Bond medicated powder

23:28 <zombie67> TRVTH

23:29 <zombie67> TM?

23:29 <Romulus> Somebody said TM is selling a bunch, zombie67

23:30 <PovAddict> how fitting

23:35 <zombie67> I want to build a dual i7 processor board, with as many GPU slots as possible.

23:36 <zombie67> suggestions?

23:36 <PovAddict> rob a bank?

23:36 <zombie67> he

23:36 <zombie67> not how to fund it, how to build it

23:37 <MTughan> You'll probably have to wait for Intel's Skulltrail successor. I believe they're working on a second iteration.

23:38 <zombie67> it doesn't have to be an intel mobo

23:38 <PovAddict> http://eatliver.com/i.php?n=2112

23:38 <Romulus> Title: T-Shirt slogan (at eatliver.com)

23:40 <zombie67> what are the GPU slots called that will run BOINC?

23:42 <MTughan> PCI-Express?

23:44 <zombie67> yeah, but there are numbers

23:46 <MTughan> x8 or higher should be enough.

23:46 <MTughan> Make sure if a motherboard does have x8 slots though, they're physically x16 slots, but just have enough connetions for x8.

23:46 <MTughan> connections*

23:50 <zombie67> that's it

23:50 <zombie67> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010200302%201071346469&name=Dual%20LGA%201366

23:50 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/mkndjp> (at www.newegg.com)

23:51 <zombie67> what's the diff 5500 5200 NB?

23:52 <MTughan> Where are you seeing those?

23:52 <MTughan> Oh, nvm...

23:53 <zombie67> found it

23:53 <zombie67> 5520:Two x16 PCI Express Gen2 ports are also configurable as x8 and x4 links compliant to PCI Express Base Specification, Revision 2.0. One single x4 PCI Express Gen2 port can bifurcate into two independent x2 interfaces

23:54 <zombie67> 5550:  One x16 PCI Express Gen2 ports are also configurable as x8 and x4 links compliant to PCI Express Base Specification, Revision 2.0. Two x4 PCI Express Gen2 ports, one of which can bifurcate into two independent x2 interfaces

23:54 <MTughan> Sounds like you want the 5520 then.

23:54 <zombie67> so, what does that mean to me?

23:54 <zombie67> oh

23:54 <zombie67> oh?

23:54 <Romulus> Somebody said oh is it ever up? :), zombie67

23:55 <zombie67> hm

23:55 <MTughan> You either get two x16 and one x4 with the 5520, or one x16 and two x4 with the 5500.

23:55 <zombie67> sounds like the one with the bigger number is not the more powerful?

23:56 <MTughan> Is it 5550 or 5500?

23:56 <zombie67> oh!

23:56 <zombie67> duh

23:56 <zombie67> NM

23:56 <MTughan> :)

23:56 <zombie67> yeah 5520

23:56 <MTughan> If you get a board with a 5520 and 4 x8 slots, you can support up to 4 GPUs then.

23:57 <MTughan> That's a lot of power depending on what cards you go with though.

23:59 <MTughan> Oh, and you'll have to watch the card spacings too. Found one with four x8 slots, but they're right beside each other. Won't 4x dual-slot coolers.

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