IRC logs of #boinc for Wednesday, 2009-06-24

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01:51 <efc> &wx 31088

01:51 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 73F / 23C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.80in / 1009hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows in the upper 60s. Light and variable winds.; Wednesday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the mid 90s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph shifting to the southeast in the afternoon.; Wednesday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows in (1 more message)

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03:34 <vomitory> how to fix this error

03:34 <vomitory> execvp(/root/boinc, --redirectio, --launched_by_manager) failed with error 2!

03:34 <vomitory> cannot connect: connection refused -- but i didn't have this problem when i ran boinc manually by starting boinc_client myself as root user

03:34 <MTughan> You're trying to launch the manager?

03:35 <vomitory> i just did /etc/init.d/boinc start

03:35 <vomitory> and then boinc_gui

03:35 <vomitory> what exactly is the manager?

03:35 <MTughan> Where is the daemon supposed to be now? Because I don't think it's in /root.

03:35 <MTughan> The manager is the GUI.

03:35 <vomitory> /usr/bin/boinc_client

03:36 <vomitory> in the config file the working directoyr is /usr/lib/boinc

03:37 <MTughan> Sorry, you may have to wait until someone else comes. I think I know what the problem is, but I don't know how to fix it.

03:37 <vomitory> what's the problem

03:37 <Romulus> Somebody said the problem is that the tasks run so FAST, you can never really be sure how many are running at any one time, vomitory

03:37 <vomitory> Romulus: ?

03:37 <Romulus> vomitory: Are you daft?

03:37 <vomitory> no

03:37 <vomitory> what's daft

03:37 <MTughan> Romulus would be the bot.

03:37 <Romulus> MTughan: Are you daft?

03:38 <MTughan> &echo Hi, vomitory!

03:38 <Romulus> Hi, vomitory!

03:38 <vomitory> is daft a noun?

03:38 <vomitory> like gay?

03:38 <MTughan> Yes.

03:38 <vomitory> what does daft mean

03:38 <MTughan> The problem is that wherever execvp is, it's trying to run /root/boinc. But it's not there.

03:39 <vomitory> BOINCBIN="/usr/bin/boinc_client"

03:39 <vomitory> RUNTIMEDIR="/var/lib/boinc"

03:39 <vomitory> USER="boinc"

03:39 <vomitory> GROUP="boinc"

03:39 <MTughan> According to a dictionary, daft means mad or crazy.

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03:39 <vomitory> why would you ask me if i'm daft

03:40 <Tank_Master> he thinks everyone is daft

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03:42 <vomitory> Romulus: maybe you can define daft in more precise terms after you're done sucking the dicks of the #34 people in #boinc ; a moderate load for the night by your standards

03:43 <Romulus> vomitory: Are you daft?

03:43 <MTughan> Please keep the language clean in here.

03:43 <MTughan> (wdsmia: new word to add to thw swear script?)

03:51 <vomitory> does boinc_client have to be stopped if i want to attach?

03:52 <MTughan> It doesn't have to be, and shouldn't be...

03:53 <vomitory> * Attaching to project ...                                                              [ ok ]

03:53 <vomitory> Another instance of BOINC is running

03:53 <vomitory> the last line is repeated many times

03:53 <MTughan> Oh, you should only have one BOINC instance running.

03:54 <vomitory> i killed everything boinc

03:54 <vomitory> and then restarted the daemon with the startup script

03:55 <MTughan> Where is that message from then?

03:55 <vomitory> from the startup script

03:55 <vomitory> 03:50:10 ~ # /etc/init.d/boinc restart

03:55 <vomitory> * Stopping BOINC ...                                                                    [ ok ]

03:55 <vomitory> * Starting BOINC ...                                                                    [ ok ]

03:55 <vomitory> 03:50:26 ~ # /etc/init.d/boinc attach

03:55 <vomitory>     Enter the Project URL:

03:55 <Romulus> Title: Welcome to Docking@Home! (at

03:56 <MTughan> Whoa, the startup script has an attach function?

03:56 <vomitory> wan

03:56 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - pastebin - post number 1472169 (at

03:58 <vomitory> i don't know why i said wan

04:03 <vomitory> but i have no idea why it says BOINC is running about 10 times

04:03 <MTughan> I don't know either, which is why I can't help you.

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04:09 <vomitory> when it asks me to enter account key is it asking for my email or for my account name?

04:13 <vomitory> boinconnect: Connection refused

04:13 <vomitory> can't connect to local host

04:14 <vomitory> does the USER and GROUP in the config file have to be the same as the user i'm running as?

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06:24 <hawmps> 'lo

06:24 <Nickuwo> mornin

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07:02 <CoderForLife> hey

07:02 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

07:02 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 66.0F / 18.9C | Humidity: 85% | Pressure: 29.64in / 1003.6hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs in the lower 90s. North winds around 5 mph.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows in the upper 60s. Northwest winds around 5 mph.; Thursday - Partly sunny with a chance of showers and thunderstorms. Humid (1 more message)

07:02 <CoderForLife> &more

07:02 <Romulus> CoderForLife: with highs in the upper 80s. Southwest winds around 5 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.;

07:03 <CoderForLife> twill be a hot one

07:03 <MTughan> You're right, sleep is overrated. I just stayed up the entire night.

07:03 <CoderForLife> see?

07:03 <CoderForLife> listen to the Coder  =)

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08:51 <MTughan> zombie_67: Connectile dysfunction?

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09:09 <zombie_67> yeah

09:09 <zombie_67> airport extreme FW upgrade

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09:53 <hawmps> grrrr...

09:58 <hawmps> brain transplant on my server, and the OS keeps offlining my scsi drives..

10:04 <wdsmia_w> brain transplant from abby someone?

10:06 <hawmps> lol

10:07 <hawmps> like Abby Hoffman..

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10:09 <hawmps> ie: offlining them during FC7 boot... ungood.

10:12 <MTughan> I've got pictures of what seems to be a groundhog family living around the engineering buildings here...

10:18 <MTughan> Can throw out

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10:21 <hawmps> very likely..

10:23 <hawmps> wow... slow link..

10:24 <hawmps> oh yeah... nice fat lawn pig.

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11:17 <hawmps> &wx

11:17 <Romulus> hawmps: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.

11:17 <hawmps> &wx 12020

11:17 <Romulus> hawmps: Temperature: 77.9F / 25.5C | Humidity: 61% | Pressure: 29.55in / 1000.6hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 6.0mph / 9.7km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy with a 20 percent chance of showers. Highs in the lower 80s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening...then clearing. Lows in the lower 60s. North winds around 5 mph in the (1 more message)

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11:40 * PovAddict pokes Romulus

11:44 <PovAddict> MTughan: aww

11:44 <MTughan> lol

11:44 <MTughan> Poke Takanuva while you're at it.

11:45 <MTughan> Also I've determined that there is 4 groundhogs there now.

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11:47 <yang> Hello !

11:48 <yang> I am trying to attach a project to climateprediction using boinccmd, can I get some assistance

11:48 <yang> ./boinccmd --lookup_account http://project_url/ <email address> <password>

11:48 <yang> gives me result "Operation in progress"

11:48 <PovAddict> what version of BOINC?

11:48 <Romulus> It has been said that what version of BOINC are you running, PovAddict

11:49 <yang> ii  boinc-client                     6.4.5+dfsg-2 (debian)

11:50 <PovAddict> is that apt output?

11:50 <yang> yes

11:50 <PovAddict> if you installed it from apt, why are you using ./ to run boinccmd?

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11:50 <PovAddict> looks like you *also* have it installed locally

11:50 <yang> no, that was an example from berkeley website

11:51 <PovAddict> ah

11:51 <PovAddict> well, does it say "operation in progress" only once, and then quit?

11:51 <yang> no

11:51 <yang> it keeps repeating

11:51 <PovAddict> then wait till it's done :)

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11:51 <yang> but, also when going tro climateprediction website, they don't have user-login available (timeout)

11:52 <yang> maybe its that problem

11:52 <yang> since their system is down

11:52 <PovAddict> yeah

11:52 <yang> let me try if the same happens with WCG

11:53 <PovAddict> btw, what webpage did you get those instructions from?

11:54 <yang> ok this time i got

11:54 <yang> status: Success

11:54 <yang> poll status: operation in progress

11:54 <yang> account key: e782374hsfd3w58

11:54 <yang> i can now attach a prject with a key?

11:54 <PovAddict> never show your account key, it's even worse than showing your password (because you can't change it)

11:54 <yang> my account key displaye dis fake

11:54 <PovAddict> good :)

11:54 <hawmps> too late

11:55 <yang> haha no really (i am not that stupid)

11:55 <yang> it doesnt have enough characters (you can count them)

11:55 <hawmps> bingo.

11:55 <PovAddict> initially I thought it was because wcg used a weird account key format

11:56 <yang> PovAddict: getting info from

11:56 <Romulus> Title: Boinccmd tool - BOINC (at

11:56 <PovAddict> okay, now use --project_attach

11:56 <yang> so, now i just do --project_attach URL account_key to start calculating ?

11:56 <yang> ok

11:57 <yang> it is easy with boinc manager, however some libs issues on this server so i cannot use it

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12:00 <yang> also strange on amd64 the client keeps freezing my machine

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12:06 <yang> thank you for assistance PovAddict

12:06 <PovAddict> np

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14:04 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx sxf

14:04 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 70°F / 21°C | Humidity: 68% | Pressure: 29.98in / 1015hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 14mph / 22km/h | Updated: 7:50 PM CEST; Chance of Rain. High:75 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:57 F.; Rain. High:69 F.; Chance of a Thunderstorm. Low:62 F.; Chance of a Thunderstorm. High:77 F.; Chance of a Thunderstorm. Low:62 F.;

14:07 <wdsmia_w> &wx 50319

14:07 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: 83.4F / 28.6C | Humidity: 73% | Pressure: 29.94in / 1013.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 5.0mph / 8.0km/h ; Rest of Today - Partly sunny. Hot and humid. A 30 percent chance of thunderstorms in the afternoon. High in the lower 90s. South wind 5 to 15 mph with gusts to around 25 mph. Highest heat index readings around 100 in the (2 more messages)

14:07 <wdsmia_w> &more

14:07 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: afternoon.; Tonight - Thunderstorms in the evening...then thunderstorms likely after midnight. Some thunderstorms may produce heavy rainfall. Low in the lower 70s. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph. Chance of thunderstorms 80 percent. Highest heat index readings around 100 in the evening.; Thursday - Partly sunny. A 20 percent chance of thunderstorms in the morning. High in the upper 80s. East (1 more message)

14:07 <wdsmia_w> &more

14:07 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: wind 5 to 10 mph shifting to the north in the afternoon.;

14:07 <PovAddict> &wx eze

14:07 <Romulus> PovAddict: Temperature: 52.3°F / 11.3°C | Humidity: 29% | Pressure: 30.09in / 1018.8hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 7.8mph / 12.6km/h | Updated: 3:06 PM ART; Clear. High:53 F.; Clear. Low:35 F.; Clear. High:57 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:35 F.; Partly Cloudy. High:59 F.; Clear. Low:37 F.;

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15:53 <xcamel> &wx 12074

15:53 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 81.2F / 27.3C | Humidity: 59% | Pressure: 29.74in / 1007.0hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 5.0mph / 8.0km/h ; This Afternoon - Partly sunny. Highs in the mid 80s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph with gusts up to 20 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening...then clearing. Patchy fog after midnight. Lows in the lower 60s. North winds (1 more message)

15:53 <xcamel> &more

15:53 <Romulus> xcamel: around 5 mph in the evening...becoming light and variable.; Thursday - Partly sunny. A chance of showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. Humid with highs in the upper 80s. Light and variable winds...becoming west 5 to 10 mph in the afternoon. Chance of rain 30 percent.;

15:53 <xcamel> might hit 90 tomorrow..

15:56 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

15:56 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 89.4F / 31.9C | Humidity: 58% | Pressure: 29.63in / 1003.3hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows in the mid 60s. West winds around 5 mph.; Thursday - Partly sunny. Scattered showers and thunderstorms... mainly in the afternoon. Humid with highs in the upper 80s. West winds 5 to 10 mph. (1 more message)

15:56 <CoderForLife> &more

15:56 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Chance of rain 50 percent.; Thursday Night - Partly cloudy. Scattered showers and thunderstorms...mainly in the evening. Muggy. Lows in the upper 60s. Northwest winds around 5 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.;

15:57 <CoderForLife> Why is it never "Chance of rain 58.2 percent"?

15:58 <CoderForLife> I guess they're not into specious precision

16:02 <xcamel> could be..

16:07 <CoderForLife> 83.4% of all statistics are made up on-the-fly

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16:28 <xcamel> that too.

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16:50 <xcamel> meanwhile, back on the farm...

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17:00 <vomitory> will someone help me figure out why i get this output when attaching a project in gentoo linux:

17:02 <xcamel> give it a shot..

17:03 <vomitory>

17:03 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - Untitled - post number 1473228 (at

17:03 <vomitory> oups, site took a long time to load and I forgot about it

17:04 <PovAddict> it's probably using --attach-project in boinc_client

17:04 <xcamel> ah... killall boinc first

17:05 <vomitory> xcamel: doesn't do it

17:05 <PovAddict> don't use that way to attach

17:05 <vomitory> PovAddict: how to attach?

17:05 <PovAddict> also, "" is definitely not your account key

17:05 <vomitory> what's an account key

17:06 <PovAddict> it looks like

17:06 <PovAddict> e1930b4927e6b6d92d120c7c1bba3421

17:06 <vomitory> ooh

17:06 <vomitory> kay i think i know

17:06 <PovAddict> but anyway, don't use init.d/boinc attach

17:06 <PovAddict> once the daemon is running, control it with 'boinccmd'

17:06 <xcamel> using 'killall' to kill any running instances **first**

17:07 <PovAddict> or 'boinc_cmd', whatever gentoo called it...

17:07 <vomitory> where's the account key stored?

17:07 <PovAddict> xcamel: but it's already running, and correctly...

17:07 <PovAddict> vomitory: you can see it on the project website, or you can use boinccmd --lookup_account with your email and password

17:07 <PovAddict> to get it

17:07 <xcamel> not when producing that message..

17:08 <PovAddict> xcamel: /etc/init.d/boinc attach is trying to start the client again but it shouldn't

17:08 <vomitory> xcamel: the thing is, that message is generated by a gentoo script

17:08 <xcamel> hmmm..

17:09 <xcamel> danmed 'packaged' versions.

17:09 <PovAddict> anyway, use boinccmd to attach projects

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17:10 <vomitory> xcamel: sucks

17:10 <vomitory> i'm banned from #gentoo too

17:10 <PovAddict> heh, why?

17:10 <vomitory> i'm not sure

17:11 <CoderForLife> some days the news is unbelievable - scratch that, most days

17:11 <vomitory> but the last time i was banned was because some retard admin was stroking his e-penis about how good the radeonhd drivers are, and then i said "okay, lol, have fun with your inferior sux drivers, but i'm using "ati" instead of "radeonhd""

17:11 <xcamel> the generic pre-built version run very well, can be tucked all into one private directory, and cause little trouble.

17:11 <PovAddict> I have even seen a distro package (SuSe) that runs the client as root

17:12 <xcamel> burning some copies of RIP linux.

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17:13 <CoderForLife>

17:13 <Romulus> <> (at

17:13 <xcamel> oh.. and it doesn't leave an rpm or ebuild mess all over about 15 different directories...

17:14 <xcamel> pickled mangoes?

17:15 <CoderForLife> strange

17:15 <xcamel> indeed.

17:15 <CoderForLife> labeled "baby food"

17:15 <xcamel> if the baby was "Bam Bam" maybe...

17:15 <CoderForLife> lol

17:15 <Tank_Master> traterious mangoes

17:16 <CoderForLife> just bought a Mac mini off of eBay

17:16 <Tank_Master> sorry to hear you wasted your money

17:19 <CoderForLife> nah - needed to port some software to run on the Mac as well, and need the basis for iPhone development

17:20 <CoderForLife> din din time

17:26 <vomitory> where is the project key set?

17:26 <vomitory> what file is in defined in?

17:27 <PovAddict> you don't define it in a file

17:27 <Tank_Master> project key?

17:27 <PovAddict> boinccmd --project_attach http://projecturl/ accountkey

17:31 <vomitory> same error when using the appropriate account key

17:31 <PovAddict> what do you mean "same error"?

17:31 <PovAddict> don't use the init.d script to attach

17:31 <vomitory> Another instance of BOINC is running

17:31 <vomitory> Another instance of BOINC is running

17:31 <vomitory>

17:31 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - pastebin - post number 1473272 (at

17:31 <vomitory> here's the init script

17:32 <PovAddict> don't use it, use boinccmd

17:32 <vomitory> don't have such a binary!

17:32 <PovAddict> boinc_cmd?

17:32 <Romulus> It has been said that boinc_cmd is for controling a running boinc instance, PovAddict

17:32 <vomitory> boinc_client  boinc_cmd     boinc_gui

17:32 <vomitory> okay

17:32 <vomitory> how to use boinc_cmd?

17:32 <PovAddict> boinc_cmd --project_attach http://projecturl/ accountkey

17:33 <vomitory> --connect: Connection refused

17:33 <vomitory> can't connect to local host

17:33 <PovAddict> o.0 weird

17:34 <PovAddict> netstat -lnp | grep 31416

17:34 <PovAddict> to see if boinc is listening on that port

17:35 <vomitory> no result

17:35 <PovAddict> wtf... then boinc is *not* running!

17:35 <PovAddict> ps ax | grep boinc

17:36 <vomitory> root     30490  0.0  0.0   1880   516 pts/3    R+   17:32   0:00 grep --colour=auto boinc

17:37 <vomitory> 17:32:13 ~ # /etc/init.d/boinc status * status:  started

17:37 <PovAddict> the init script is quite confused

17:38 <PovAddict> try /etc/init.d/boinc stop

17:38 <PovAddict> (although it seems to be already stopped)

17:38 <vomitory> tried it

17:38 <PovAddict> and?

17:38 <Romulus> hmm... and is on eastlink, PovAddict

17:38 <PovAddict> ugh

17:38 <PovAddict> forget and

17:38 <Romulus> I hear ya, PovAddict.

17:39 <vomitory> 17:34:19 ~ # /etc/init.d/boinc stop * Stopping BOINC ...                                                                    [ ok ]

17:39 <vomitory> 17:34:25 ~ # /etc/init.d/boinc start * Starting BOINC ...

17:39 <PovAddict> what does "ps ax | grep boinc" show now?

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17:40 <vomitory> no boinc

17:40 <PovAddict> hmmm

17:40 <PovAddict> dying on startup?

17:40 <vomitory> let me reboot

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17:44 <vomitory> it says boinc starts succesfully in the run level but i don't see it with ps aux or htop

17:45 <PovAddict> what is your data directory again?

17:46 <vomitory> RUNTIMEDIR="/var/lib/boinc"

17:46 <PovAddict> see if you have a stdoutdae.txt file in there

17:46 <vomitory> 17:41:53 boinc # ls

17:46 <vomitory> all_projects_list_temp.xml  client_state_prev.xml  lockfile

17:46 <vomitory> client_state.xml            gui_rpc_auth.cfg       time_stats_log

17:47 <PovAddict> do ls -l in there (to see permissions) and pastebin

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17:47 <vomitory>

17:47 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - pastebin - post number 1473290 (at

17:48 <PovAddict> yeah, that's messed up, must be from the time you ran boinc_client by hand

17:48 <vomitory> yes

17:48 <PovAddict> delete everything inside /var/lib/boinc and try /etc/init.d/boinc start

17:49 <vomitory> * Starting BOINC ... * File /var/lib/boinc/lockfile does not exist, assuming first run. * You need to setup an account on the BOINC project homepage beforehand! * Go to and locate your project. * Then either run /etc/init.d/boinc attach or connect with a gui client * and attach to a project with that.

17:49 <Romulus> Title: BOINC (at

17:49 <vomitory> * Note that for attaching to some project you need your network up and running. * network is needed only for jobs fetching afterwards

17:49 <PovAddict> now pastebin ls -l again

17:49 <vomitory> directory is empty

17:50 <PovAddict> ahh I know why that might be...

17:50 <PovAddict> "cd /var/lib/boinc", even if you're already there

17:50 <vomitory> empty

17:51 <vomitory> -rw-r--r--  1 root root    0 Jun 24 04:02 .keep_sci-misc_boinc-0

17:51 <vomitory> except for this file

17:51 <PovAddict> what are the permissions of the dir itself? (ls -ld /var/lib/boinc)

17:52 <vomitory> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jun 24 17:46 /var/lib/boinc

17:52 <PovAddict> aha, bad :)

17:53 <PovAddict> delete the directory itself too (rm -rf /var/lib/boinc) and start boinc again

17:53 <PovAddict> it seems it was quitting immediately as soon as it noticed it couldn't write anything there

17:53 <vomitory> becase of group perm?

17:54 <vomitory> or user perm?

17:54 <PovAddict> yes, only "root" could write there...

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17:54 <vomitory> but which one was it using

17:54 <vomitory> group or user?

17:54 <PovAddict> neither lets it write; boinc doesn't run as user root or group root

17:55 <PovAddict> did it work now? did the startup script say it re-created the directory?

17:56 <vomitory>

17:56 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at

17:56 <PovAddict> ...

17:56 <vomitory> 17:49:26 boinc # ls

17:56 <vomitory> all_projects_list.xml  client_state.xml       gui_rpc_auth.cfg  time_stats_log

17:56 <vomitory> ca-bundle.crt          client_state_prev.xml  lockfile

17:56 <PovAddict> I said not to use the startup script for attaching

17:57 <PovAddict> what are perms now?

17:57 <vomitory>

17:57 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - pastebin - post number 1473305 (at

17:57 <PovAddict> ok, seems to be better now

17:57 <vomitory> i know you said that but gentoo snipes bugs pretty well

17:58 <PovAddict> and now that you used 'attach' it got locked there and didn't return the prompt?

17:58 <vomitory> what do you mean?

17:59 <PovAddict> well, from the paste you showed, it didn't run boinc in the background

17:59 <vomitory> 17:43:42 ~ # ps aux | grep boinc

17:59 <vomitory> boinc     6541  0.0  0.1   6108  3488 pts/11   RN   17:49   0:00 /usr/bin/boinc_client

17:59 <vomitory> root      6600  1.1  0.8  38604 18364 pts/11   S+   17:53   0:01 boinc_gui

17:59 <vomitory> root      6613  0.0  0.0   1880   528 pts/4    S+   17:54   0:00 grep --colour=auto boinc

18:00 <vomitory> seems like its computing stuff right now

18:00 <vomitory> no graphics for poem@home in linux?

18:01 <PovAddict> I don't think it has graphics for any platform

18:01 <Tank_Master> I dont think poem has graphics period

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18:06 <vomitory> rosetta had the nicest screensaver because of its simplicity

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18:06 <vomitory> i wish it would just show one big protein folding without anything else

18:07 <vomitory> and progess of course

18:07 <vomitory> does cuda support ATI cards?

18:07 <PovAddict> CUDA was invented by nVidia for their cards

18:07 <vomitory> but i've heard that ati cards are supported

18:07 <vomitory> what other GPGPU platforms does boinc support

18:08 <vomitory> brook?

18:08 <Romulus> Rumor has it brook is BSD-licensed, and the specific version of the MW app this guy modified wasn't GPL yet, vomitory

18:08 <PovAddict> BOINC only supports CUDA

18:08 <vomitory> what's the MW app?

18:08 <vomitory> who's "this guy"

18:09 <PovAddict> there is a project that uses ATI cards, but BOINC itself doesn't support them, so it will think the app uses the CPU, and will not schedule it efficiently...

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18:21 <vomitory> thanks Pov

18:21 <vomitory> now i must go ...

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18:23 <SolitonWave> Heh - "Lost terminal"

18:23 <PovAddict> now he has to go find it again

18:44 <xcamel> better than terminally lost.

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19:10 <Tank_Master> who is terminal?

19:10 <Romulus> I guess terminal is just a cli, Tank_Master

19:10 <Tank_Master> wtf?

19:10 <Tank_Master> well, you guessed wrong

19:19 <SolitonWave> I think I will not do climate forcasts in the future after the current one I am working on is done

19:19 <xcamel> they're too big, and AGW is a scam anyway.

19:20 <SolitonWave> AGW?

19:20 <Romulus> AGW is baloney, SolitonWave

19:20 <xcamel> "Anthropogenic Global Warming", generally.

19:20 <SolitonWave> oh

19:21 <SolitonWave> The one I am working on is 93.263% done

19:22 <xcamel> einstein, milkyway, seti, ACB, QMC, VTU,  are all hot projects

19:22 * SolitonWave stabs his Celeron computer

19:22 <SolitonWave> SETI is my favorite

19:23 <xcamel> I already solved the malaria one - and didn't even have to run boinc...

19:24 <SolitonWave> What did the malaria one do to combat malaria?

19:24 <xcamel> nothing..

19:25 <PovAddict> nothing

19:25 <xcamel> The solution is DDT.

19:25 <PovAddict> it doesn't look for a cure

19:25 <SolitonWave> no way

19:25 <PovAddict> it investigates its effects

19:25 <PovAddict> or something

19:25 <SolitonWave> DDT is a crude chemical

19:25 <PovAddict> "Simulate Effects of Malaria and its control. (We are not really to find a cure, e.g. by looking for new drugs)"

19:26 <SolitonWave> hmm

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19:26 <xcamel> but it works. and is safe if used correctly.

19:27 <xcamel> but the enviro-libtards banned it, and cost millions of lives worldwide.

19:28 <SolitonWave> Oh yummy, DDT has two benzene rings with a few chlorine atoms attached

19:29 <xcamel> all over a book called "silent spring" which has been proved to be a complete hoax, based on faked "scientific data"

19:29 <SolitonWave> eww

19:30 <SolitonWave> I hate people who abuse the scientific method

19:31 <xcamel> the short answer was that it caused thinning shells in large bird (raptors) eggs, killing the chicks.

19:31 <xcamel> the truth was that the scientists deprived the birds of all calcium in their diets.

19:31 <SolitonWave> hmm

19:33 <SolitonWave> That would be lying with their experiments

19:33 <xcamel> It took almost 20 years for the truth to be told (and malaria had been eradicated in the US before this) but the "UN" demanded it be banned worldwide anyway.

19:33 * SolitonWave sets those "scientists" pants on fire

19:34 <xcamel> the researchers were stripped o0f their positions... but the great lie continues...

19:35 <PovAddict> meanwhile, we have huge amounts of people infected with Chagas, and a growing number infected with Dengue

19:36 <PovAddict> and media talks about swine flu

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19:37 <xcamel> more people died of lightning strikes this year than H1N1

19:37 <PovAddict> lol

19:37 <efc3> Moo

19:37 <PovAddict> &grab xcamel

19:37 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.

19:37 <xcamel> Guess we should declare lightning a "pandemic"

19:37 <xcamel> 'lo Ed

19:37 <PovAddict> there's more people with dengue in a single argentinian province than people with h1n1 worldwide

19:38 <xcamel> indeed..

19:38 <PovAddict> last I heard, anyway

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19:50 <SolitonWave> I'm tired of hearing about the misnamed flu also

19:51 <efc3> wonder if I had it. Been sick.

19:51 <efc3> but pretty mild for a flu.

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23:06 <CoderForLife> sleep is overrated

23:08 <PovAddict>

23:08 <PovAddict> Microsoft does better than that

23:08 <Romulus> <> (at

23:17 <Suspect> That is really yucky

23:18 <Suspect> I like straight up Gnome.

23:18 <Suspect> I use a Gnome inspired Windows theme :p

23:18 <PovAddict> I use KDE

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23:19 <PovAddict> but KDE 4.x is making me consider Gnome

23:19 <Suspect> I don't like something that looks like icons puked all over my taskbars

23:20 <Suspect> That's what I've always thought of when I think of KDE

23:21 <Suspect> I just like simplicity I guess.. clean and minimalistic feeling themes

23:21 <Suspect> And I don't like how the default KDE bar is very tall

23:21 <Suspect> Wasted screen space just to accomodate large icons

23:37 <PovAddict> forget what version of BOINC

23:37 <Romulus> Got it!

23:37 <PovAddict> Romulus?

23:37 <PovAddict> what version of BOINC?

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23:38 <PovAddict> I guess he forgot already

23:38 <PovAddict> Romulus: ping

23:38 <Romulus> pong

23:38 <PovAddict> or he's hung

23:38 <MTughan> Rommie with a hangover...

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