IRC logs of #boinc for Saturday, 2009-06-27

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01:25 <zombie67> mm has work!

01:25 <zombie67> but can't get any of it

01:28 <Tank_Master> haha

01:39 <PovAddict> cant sleep

01:39 <PovAddict> zombie67: whats mm?

01:39 <MTughan> MindModeling I think.

01:39 <PovAddict> oic

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04:13 <yoyo[RKN]> moin

04:13 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx sxf

04:13 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 63°F / 17°C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 29.98in / 1015hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 12mph / 18km/h | Updated: 9:50 AM CEST; Overcast. High:77 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:60 F.; Clear. High:80 F.; Partly Cloudy. Low:57 F.; Chance of Rain. High:82 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:60 F.;

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08:07 <xcamel> 'lo

08:54 <KathrynM> anyone see the new front page for the unofficial boinc wiki?

08:54 <KathrynM>

08:54 <Romulus> Title: Unofficial BOINC Wiki (at

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11:11 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

11:11 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 84.4F / 29.1C | Humidity: 72% | Pressure: 29.71in / 1006.0hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 5.0mph / 8.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. A slight chance of thunderstorms in the morning...then a chance of thunderstorms in the afternoon. High in the upper 80s. South wind 10 to 15 mph shifting to the west in the afternoon. Chance of (1 more message)

11:11 <wdsmia> &more

11:11 <Romulus> wdsmia: thunderstorms 50 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Low in the lower 60s. Northwest wind 10 to 15 mph.; Sunday - Sunny...breezy. High in the lower 80s. Northwest wind 10 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph.;

11:50 <Nickuwo> &wx 54901

11:50 <Romulus> Nickuwo: Temperature: 77.8F / 25.4C | Humidity: 53% | Pressure: 29.06in / 984.0hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. Scattered showers possible early in the afternoon...then a chance of showers and isolated thunderstorms late in the afternoon or early this evening. Highs 76 to 81. South wind 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 40 (1 more message)

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14:02 <efc> moo

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14:45 <FreeLarry58> &zipinfo 54901

14:45 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: City: Oshkosh; State: WI; County: Winnebago; Area Code: 920; Time Zone: CST; Daylight Savings: Yes; Latitude: 44.0464 (North); Longitude: 88.4933 (West)

15:07 <efc> remoo FL

15:15 <FreeLarry58> moo efx

15:16 <MTughan> I think you mean efc...

15:16 <FreeLarry58> efc that is -- fingers still stupid this day here

15:17 <FreeLarry58> that and pain pills for rib cage making things spin a bit

15:18 <FreeLarry58> how' MTughan today

15:19 <MTughan> Just woke up a couple minutes ago.

15:19 <FreeLarry58> cople of hours for me - still have to get straight for commute tho

15:20 <FreeLarry58> &coffee for MTughan

15:20 <Romulus> Here's your quad expresso!! BANG! Need an ambulance in 10 minutes?

15:20 <MTughan> No thanks, I don't drink coffee. :P

15:20 <FreeLarry58> will call it a beer than

15:20 <MTughan> Or beer.

15:20 <FreeLarry58> but still quad espresso in can

15:21 <MTughan> We have a user in Freenode's help channel who's trying to set up an IRCd on Ubuntu 9.04. He knows how to ./configure, but he doesn't know how to install a package...

15:21 <FreeLarry58> bottled water with one of my pills then? - nah that would put you back in bed

15:21 <MTughan> And now we're trying to get him to run ifconfig to find out his IP address...

15:21 <FreeLarry58> ugg don't even know the ./config myself - pov helped set up apache on my windows machine long ago

15:22 <MTughan> Windows doesn't/can't use ./configure && make.

15:22 <FreeLarry58> true

15:22 <FreeLarry58> PovAddict also does most of my setup on the few linux machines here via ssh

15:23 <FreeLarry58> been long time since i tried to set up irc chat on gnome

15:23 <MTughan> On Linux, the standard way to build from source is ./configure, then make, then maybe make install.

15:24 * FreeLarry58 thinks that was back in fc6 era

15:24 <MTughan> Apparently, this person knows that, or was reading from instructions, but can't figure out how to enter "apt-get install something" in the same command line...

15:25 <FreeLarry58> that sounds like what i do for installing a package via its updater software

15:25 <FreeLarry58> like yum

15:25 <FreeLarry58> yum for fedora and apt for ubantu

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15:26 <MTughan> apt-get is used in a lot of distros.

15:26 <FreeLarry58> needs the correct package -- true also used yum when had a ubantu machine here for a bit

15:26 <FreeLarry58> and have used apt in fedora also

15:27 <FreeLarry58> can he apt search for package?

15:27 <MTughan> I think so.

15:28 <MTughan> Hmm, apparently not.

15:29 <FreeLarry58> is he command line only or does he have the gui version of apt for his install?

15:30 <PovAddict> as usual, makes me think "he shouldn't be running an IRCd"

15:31 * FreeLarry58 knew there was a reason i didn't try

15:31 <FreeLarry58> howdy PovAddict

15:31 <MTughan> PovAddict: That was the general advice given. :)

15:31 <PovAddict> sleepy

15:32 <FreeLarry58> ugg time for next pill and commute so

15:32 <FreeLarry58> tca

15:32 <FreeLarry58> &bye

15:32 <Romulus> later ace

15:40 <MTughan> Seems that Apple is dropping Nvidia.

15:41 <PovAddict> !

15:43 <MTughan>

15:43 <Romulus> <> (at

15:43 <MTughan> Oops, I mistyped...

15:43 <MTughan>

15:43 <Romulus> <> (at

15:43 <PovAddict> my mouse died again

15:44 <PovAddict> and I can't tab my way to the link <.<

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15:44 <MTughan> &tiny [url last]

15:44 <Romulus> MTughan:

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17:34 <yoyo[RKN]> moin

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18:39 <Soul_keeper> CoderForLife !

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18:39 <Soul_keeper> i got a boinc question:  does PovAddict till suck dudes off for quarters ?

18:40 <Soul_keeper> still*

18:40 <Soul_keeper> i got a boinc question:  does PovAddict still suck dudes off for quarters ?

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18:42 <Soul_keeper> oops

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18:44 <PovAddict> wdsmia?

18:44 <Romulus> Somebody said wdsmia is away, PovAddict

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18:44 <CoderForLife> sorry - I was too late

18:44 <MTughan> Someone seriously has to take care of him...

18:44 <CoderForLife> I just saw my flashy thing

18:45 <CoderForLife> now he invites me over to his chat room

18:45 <MTughan> Figures.

18:45 <PovAddict> trolls feed on attention

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19:29 <Blarghargh> hello

19:29 <Blarghargh> is there a way to listen to signals directly from SETI?

19:30 <PovAddict> ...huh?

19:30 <Blarghargh> sorry if i'm unclear

19:30 <MTughan> If you're wanting data straight from the SETI project, you'll probably have to talk to them.

19:31 <Blarghargh> i mean, can i listen to the signals from the telescopes

19:31 <PovAddict> no

19:31 <Blarghargh> directly, yes

19:31 <Blarghargh> AWW

19:31 <Blarghargh> really?

19:31 <MTughan> No, they won't give you access to the telescopes.

19:31 <PovAddict> SETI@Home doesn't even control the telescope

19:31 <Blarghargh> i know that, I jsut figured you guys might know

19:31 <PovAddict> they stick their recorder there, and other scientists doing their own thing aim the telescope where they need it for their investigations

19:31 <Blarghargh> i see

19:31 <PovAddict> and SETI records from whatever direction it's pointing

19:32 <Blarghargh> can I listen to that?

19:34 <PovAddict> no, it's not "online in the telescope website" or anything like that

19:35 <MTughan> Why do you want raw telescope data anyway? That's a lot of data.

19:35 <PovAddict> someone from SETI@Home actually drives to the telescope every week or so and takes the recorded tapes :)

19:35 <MTughan> Most of it probably useless to you.

19:35 <Blarghargh> i just wanna be able to lsiten to it for the novelty

19:35 <MTughan> "Listen"?

19:35 <PovAddict> put your radio in an unused station and turn the volume up

19:37 <Blarghargh> k whatever, thanks

19:38 <PovAddict> stay around

19:39 <efc> There used to be some programs that would play the WUs as wav files

19:39 <efc> But its just static

19:39 <PovAddict> lol

19:39 <PovAddict> useful o.O

19:41 <efc> A gen-u-ine signal would probably not sound like much either since it would be at an extremely low data rate, 1 baud or so

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19:42 <PovAddict> hey Hodapp, long time

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19:43 <Hodapp> POVADDICT!

19:43 * PovAddict jumps off his chair

19:43 * Hodapp steals PovAddict's chair

19:43 <Hodapp> :)

19:43 <PovAddict> !

19:43 <Hodapp> works every time.

19:44 * MTughan shocks Hodapp with a Taser

19:44 <Hodapp> I'm trying to run BOINC on a cluster, but it's an OpenSSI cluster which means that every single node shares the same filesystem.

19:45 <PovAddict> MTughan: how do you legally own that?!

19:45 <Hodapp> so it doesn't want to run on more than one node, because it thinks it's already running

19:45 <MTughan> PovAddict: What? I'm legally of age here.

19:45 <Hodapp> How does BOINC determine this? Lockfiles?

19:45 <PovAddict> MTughan: if they knew about your sleep cycles they wouldn't give you one

19:46 <PovAddict> Hodapp: if you run multiple BOINC clients in the same data directory, hell breaks loose

19:46 <MTughan> lol

19:46 <PovAddict> :)

19:46 <Hodapp> I can make a certain area per-node

19:46 <Hodapp> but I need to know what area

19:47 <Hodapp> how should I go about this?

19:48 <PovAddict> mkdir node1 node2 node3; from one node run boinc_client --dir node1, on another node run boinc_client --dir node2

19:48 <PovAddict> each node has its own IP address?

19:48 <Hodapp> yes

19:49 <Hodapp> okay, this looks pretty simple

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19:52 <Hodapp> dude, I can do some funky mkdir `uname -n` action or something

19:54 <Hodapp> ./boinc --dir `uname -n`

19:54 <Hodapp> it works! woohoo!

19:55 <PovAddict>

19:55 <Romulus> Title: Bash pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at

19:56 <Hodapp> PovAddict: I just did 'dsh -ac ./' - that'll run it in parallel across all the nodes

19:56 <Hodapp> but I may need that script you pasted once I actually try to get the nodes to do something...

19:57 <Hodapp> hrm, I guess I can't use BOINC manager too easily when the slave nodes are only accessible from the head node

19:57 <PovAddict> oh, I guess you could also use 'dsh' to run boinccmd locally on each node (instead of using boinccmd on the local machine to send a remote command to the node)

19:58 <PovAddict> dsh just runs same command in all nodes?

19:58 <Hodapp> yeah

19:58 * Hodapp <--- BOINC-clueless

19:59 <Hodapp> o_O I only have like 300 MB free between all nodes

19:59 <Hodapp> this could be a problem

20:00 <PovAddict> heh

20:00 <PovAddict> it may be useful if you could share the "projects" directory (but not "slots") across nodes, but that would need client code changes

20:01 <PovAddict> to keep more than one client instance from, for example, downloading the same file at the same time :)

20:01 <Hodapp> hrm, how much space is typically used?

20:01 <PovAddict> depends on the project

20:02 <Hodapp> these nodes have local space too... I think... somewhere

20:02 <Hodapp> the hard drives are probably powered off

20:10 <Hodapp> ugh, this is gonna be a problem, only the head node can access the intarwebs

20:18 <Hodapp> OpenSSI will load-level and automatically spawn new threads across available nodes . . . but that doesn't much help, does it

20:22 * Hodapp mumbles

20:23 <PovAddict> heh you'd need to write the client from scratch to take advantage of that

20:28 <Hodapp> yeah.

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