IRC logs of #boinc for Wednesday, 2009-07-01

00:02 <CoderForLife> sleep...

00:03 <CoderForLife> ... is elusive

00:03 <Tank_Master> is for the weak

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03:47 <_Danilo_> hi all

03:55 <KidpunkX> _Danilo_, hey

03:56 <KidpunkX> whats up

03:56 <KidpunkX> I see dead zombies!!!

03:56 <KidpunkX> zombies alert!!!

03:56 <_Danilo_> KidpunkX: hello

03:57 <KidpunkX> acuna matata

03:57 <_Danilo_> :)

03:57 <KidpunkX> _Danilo_, this is pathetic they run some crazy channel called boinc and they cant even run it right

03:58 <KidpunkX> Romulus,

03:59 <_Danilo_> not is pathetic and crazy

04:17 <KidpunkX> lol

04:17 <KidpunkX> _Danilo_, how old are you?

04:17 <KidpunkX> a/s/l

04:18 <KidpunkX> 25/m/fl

04:19 <KidpunkX> KathrynM, you there

04:41 <_Danilo_> 22

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05:33 <efc> moo

05:52 <CoderForLife> moo

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06:01 <KathrynM> hola all.  just came back from taking the cats to the vet.  Ivory weighs in at 2.7 kilos and Gidgette at 370 grams.

06:37 <hawmps> 'lo

06:37 <hawmps> and mornin

06:37 <hawmps> Gidgette - guinea pig?

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07:10 <kathryn_> gidgette = ~6 week old kitten

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07:14 <hawmps> ah hah.

07:29 <hawmps> was that the other white one?

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08:13 <KathrynM> Ivory is the white one.  Gidgette is a tortoise shell

08:21 <hawmps> we're currently raising an orphaned duck..

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10:11 <hawmps> fyi: Firefox 3.5 is available

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10:49 <aleasty> Hi everybody

10:49 <aleasty> i need help

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11:13 <aleasty> is seti down?

11:22 <zombie67> This page requires database access. Our database server is temporarily shut down for maintenance. Please try again later.

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12:00 <hawmps> poof

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12:05 <Tank_Master> &wx 97123

12:05 <Tank_Master> &more

12:05 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: That's all, there is no more.

12:05 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 65.1F / 18.4C | Humidity: 39% | Pressure: 29.77in / 1008.0hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Sunny. Highs around 90. Light wind becoming north 10 to 15 mph in the afternoon.; Tonight - Clear. Lows around 55. North wind 10 to 15 mph...becoming light wind after midnight.; Thursday - Sunny. Highs around 95. (1 more message)

12:05 <Tank_Master> &more

12:05 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Northeast wind 5 to 10 mph.; Special Weather Statement for Washington County in effect until 3:00 PM PDT on July 01, 2009;

12:05 <Tank_Master> 90?!?

12:18 <KidpunkX> any females in here

12:18 <Nickuwo> lol

12:19 <Nickuwo> picking up ladies in #boinc, I like your style kid

12:19 <KidpunkX> i swear hard to find females using IRC if you do see one shes either married

12:19 <KidpunkX> but theres nothing wrong with that lol thats the best ones

12:26 <KidpunkX> zombies alert!!!

12:26 <KidpunkX> Nickuwo, what the hell are you doing online?

12:28 <Nickuwo> duh, looking at pr0n

12:30 <KidpunkX> lol

12:30 <KidpunkX> where at? xvideos?

12:30 <Nickuwo> nah, bbl

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12:34 <KidpunkX> Your mind is power, and power is knowledge so use it well       ~Miguel F. Baez Jr.

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12:41 <KidpunkX> wdsmia, Welcome to boinc!

12:45 <hawmps> pffft.

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13:14 <hawmps> I wish there was something that showed in boincmgr CPU vs GPU apps (while running)

13:15 <PovAddict> hawmps: someone on SETI forum was making a custom GUI, which had a way to show which apps were GPU

13:16 <PovAddict> using an absolutely unreliable and project-specific method

13:17 <hawmps> well.. it seems that regardless of which is running, it still shows as running cpu apps.

13:17 <hawmps> so even if I was running 2 gpu apps, it's showing cpu time used.

13:17 <PovAddict> BOINC has no way of knowing "GPU time"

13:18 <hawmps> wrong way of putting it.. If I have 2 cpus, and a gpu, I only ever show 2 cpu apps running

13:19 <hawmps> seems I should see 3 or 4 tasks running...

13:19 <hawmps> or however many the gpu will run, plus 2 normal apps

13:20 <PovAddict> and that's why I don't crunch with GPU: BOINC still sucks with them

13:20 <PovAddict> what version of BOINC do you have?

13:20 <hawmps> 6.6.36

13:20 <hawmps> 32 bit linux

13:24 <hawmps> it's nearly impossible to tell if a gpu app is running, until your video card overheats.

13:25 <hawmps> wdsmia seems to have the skinny on all this, but isn't offering any insights..

13:37 * wdsmia_w wonders if there is a GPU-Z for *nix

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13:54 <hawmps> dunno

14:06 <KidpunkX> Romulus,

14:16 <PovAddict> &factoids random

14:16 <Romulus> PovAddict: "Ramsey": http://ramseyathome.com/ramsey/; "BoincView": Site down, but see http://web.archive.org/web/20071014001529/boincview.amanheis.de/; "milkyway": Milkyway@Home: a research project that does research in modeling and determining the evolution of the Milkyway galaxy.

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15:56 <PovAddict> quiet day

15:57 <MTughan> Gizmodo says desktops are dead. I say rubbish. http://gizmodo.com/5301401/so-long-desktop-pc-you-suck

15:57 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/lej7h8> (at gizmodo.com)

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16:06 <xcamel> 'lo again

16:08 <xcamel> hmmm.. Oscar-winning actor Karl Malden dies at 97

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16:20 <PovAddict> BoincBot: what is the URL of yoyo@home?

16:20 <BoincBot> The URL of yoyo@home is http://boinc.rechenkraft.net/yoyo/

16:20 <Romulus> Title: yoyo@home (at boinc.rechenkraft.net)

16:23 <xcamel> why?

16:24 <PovAddict> testing; future features may be "what projects support GPU" or "does X have work"

16:25 <xcamel> that should be incorporated into the existing channel bot.

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16:48 <xcamel> Don't get me wrong.. I think it's a great idea, but it should be part of the bot everyone is used to using..

16:49 <Nickuwo> I thought rommie was just for useless features...

16:49 * PovAddict holds Nickuwo so xcamel can slap him

16:49 <PovAddict> &grab Nickuwo

16:49 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.

16:50 <Nickuwo> :)

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16:56 <MTughan> The internets just suddenly got very quiet...

16:56 <MTughan> Or, at least the 20 or so channels I'm in.

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17:00 <MTughan> Seen in a quit message: "There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence."

17:02 <Nickuwo> lsd didnt come out of berkeley... or at least it wasnt invented there...

17:03 <Nickuwo> maybe ppl make a lot there?

17:03 <Nickuwo> either way its funny. shouldnt analyze it so much i spose

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17:19 <Nickuwo> i just made this joke up

17:20 <Nickuwo> I think i listen to too much rap when I cook

17:20 <Nickuwo> my roommates always tell me to lay off the beets

17:20 <Nickuwo> lol!

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17:29 <wdsmia> re-hi

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17:37 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

17:37 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 66.3F / 19.1C | Humidity: 76% | Pressure: 29.48in / 998.2hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers...mainly this evening. Lows in the mid 50s. West winds 10 to 15 mph... diminishing to around 5 mph after midnight. Chance of rain 40 percent.; Thursday - Mostly cloudy with a (1 more message)

17:37 <CoderForLife> &mor

17:37 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Are you daft?

17:37 <CoderForLife> &more

17:37 <Romulus> CoderForLife: slight chance of showers in the morning...then partly sunny in the afternoon. Highs in the lower 70s. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Thursday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows in the upper 50s. West winds 5 to 10 mph.;

17:37 * CoderForLife re-wraps himself in his cloak of invisibility

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17:47 <PovAddict> http://cgi.4chan.org/gif/src/1246475191013.gif

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18:35 <xcamel> hmmm.. flash flood watches/warnings

18:42 <MTughan> http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/07/01/funny-pictures-u-can-have-3-rownd-ones/

18:42 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/nxwjt7> (at icanhascheezburger.com)

18:43 <MTughan> Reminds me of our cat... I once brought a hamster home that was part of our classroom (don't ask) with a plastic wheel like that.

18:43 <MTughan> The cat was more afraid of this moving wheel than interested in what was inside.

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18:46 <xcamel> a couple spots got nearly 4" of rain in a less than 3 hours...\

19:14 <xcamel> spork >> 62.16.115.81

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20:58 <efc> moo

20:58 <MTughan> perl

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22:00 <vomitory> hello

22:00 <vomitory> how's everyone?

22:00 <vomitory> does anyone know if rosetta graphics are under development?

22:00 <vomitory> or just "in the planning"

22:01 <Tank_Master> rosetta has always had graphics, at laest under windows

22:01 <vomitory> yes,

22:01 <vomitory> under linux

22:01 <vomitory> ist under development?

22:02 <Tank_Master> rosetta is one of the oldest project for boinc, so they probably would have it by now if they wanted to.

22:02 <vomitory> ah, so what you're telling me is that they don't give a shit

22:02 <wdsmia> asks vomitory to please watch his or her language Thanks, your friendly channel op.

22:02 <Tank_Master> though just haing the graphics logic in there slows down the processing of the app

22:03 <vomitory> barely

22:03 <vomitory> and it attracts more users

22:03 <Tank_Master> no, I think they are more conserned about speed under linux

22:03 <vomitory> not everyone runs the graphics

22:03 <vomitory> people only run it for a month and get tired of it

22:03 <Tank_Master> dosent matter if you run it or not, it still slows down the processing some

22:04 <PovAddict> having them and not running them shouldn't slow anything

22:05 <MTughan> Tank_Master: Some people don't care as much about the apps as the graphics.

22:06 <vomitory> Tank_Master: how can it slow down the processing if its a module which is not loaded

22:06 <MTughan> vomitory: It's not.

22:06 <Tank_Master> still has to check the interface to see if it should be displaying anything or not

22:06 <MTughan> Tank_Master: No, the graphics doesn't run from the main science app.

22:06 <Tank_Master> that means calls out to the manager

22:07 <PovAddict> ahh that

22:08 <PovAddict> well if the app has no graphics it's still doing the same amount of communication with the client...

22:08 <vomitory> MTughan: how can you say if the code hasn't been written yet?

22:09 <vomitory> Tank_Master: it would be negligible anyway

22:09 <PovAddict> vomitory: because all project apps start graphics in the same way, otherwise it can't work with BOINC...

22:09 <Tank_Master> it would work the same for all projects that run under the BOINC API

22:10 <vomitory> okay

22:10 <vomitory> i understand

22:10 <vomitory> Romulus: you are daft

22:10 <Romulus> vomitory: Are you daft?

22:10 <vomitory> no

22:10 <vomitory> you are

22:10 <PovAddict> don't start that stupid game again

22:10 <vomitory> why does it keep calling me daft?

22:11 <MTughan> &dunno add No idea!

22:11 <Romulus> MTughan: The operation succeeded.  Dunno #4 added.

22:11 <PovAddict> it's what it does if you give him an invalid command

22:11 <MTughan> Even though I've added more error messages...

22:11 <vomitory> PovAddict: what's the purpose of this bot?

22:11 <PovAddict> or the same one again and again

22:11 <vomitory> can i try playing with the bot and you can update its reponses?

22:11 <vomitory> seeing as ther are no boinc discussions happening ...

22:11 <PovAddict> if you want to "play with the bot", send it a private message

22:11 <PovAddict> don't flood the channel

22:12 <Tank_Master> &wx 97123

22:12 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 79.5F / 26.4C | Humidity: 24% | Pressure: 29.62in / 1002.9hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Clear. Lows in the 50s. North wind 10 to 15 mph...becoming light wind after midnight.; Thursday - Sunny. Highs 90 to 95. North wind 5 to 10 mph.; Thursday Night - Clear. Lows 50 to 60. Northwest wind 5 to 15 mph.; Heat (1 more message)

22:12 <Tank_Master> &more

22:12 <MTughan> &whatis platform_list

22:12 <vomitory> but then how will you know to update its command

22:12 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Advisory for Washington County in effect until 8:00 PM PDT on July 03, 2009;

22:12 <Romulus> MTughan: "platform_list" could be http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php

22:12 <MTughan> Tank_Master: Eesh, that's hot.

22:12 <Tank_Master> was warmer today

22:12 <MTughan> &wx YOW

22:12 <Tank_Master> over 90

22:12 <Romulus> MTughan: Temperature: 64°F / 18°C | Humidity: 83% | Pressure: 29.77in / 1008hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h | Updated: 10:00 PM EDT; Tonight - Cloudy periods. 30 percent chance of showers early this evening with the risk of a thunderstorm. Low 15C(59F).; Thursday - Cloudy. Showers beginning in the morning. Risk of a thunderstorm. High 22C(72F). (1 more message)

22:12 <vomitory> OVER 9000?

22:12 <vomitory> WHAT ?! 9000?

22:12 <Tank_Master> ?

22:13 <vomitory> its an internet meme

22:13 <MTughan> vomitory: I think you're reading it wrong. He said 90F, not 9000F.

22:13 <vomitory> MTughan: what the scouter say about its powerlevel?

22:13 <MTughan> What power leve?

22:13 <MTughan> level*

22:13 <vomitory> 9000?

22:13 <Romulus> I guess 9000 is like 1/3 of my monthly pay :), vomitory

22:13 <vomitory> ITS OVER 9 F***ING THOUSAND

22:13 <MTughan> forget 9000

22:13 <Romulus> Gotcha, MTughan.

22:13 <MTughan> Yes, it's over 9F.

22:14 <vomitory> Romulus: are you transgendered?

22:14 <Romulus> vomitory: Are you daft?

22:14 <vomitory> no

22:14 <vomitory> but YOU are

22:14 <MTughan> Do I dare call insult?

22:14 <vomitory> what do you mean?

22:15 <MTughan> &insult vomitory

22:15 <Romulus> vomitory - You are nothing but a ruttish mound of uninspiring number-9.

22:15 <PovAddict> MTughan: yes

22:15 <vomitory> &insult MTughan

22:15 <Romulus> MTughan - You are nothing but a thick quart of weather-bitten toenails.

22:15 <vomitory> &insult Romulus

22:15 <Romulus> Romulus - You are nothing but an onion-eyed ooze of low-quality Stimpy-drool.

22:16 <vomitory> way to insult yourself, einstein

22:16 <MTughan> vomitory: It's a damn bot.

22:16 <vomitory> MTughan: who is?

22:16 <MTughan> Rommie!

22:16 <MTughan> Romulus: version

22:16 <Romulus> MTughan: The current (running) version of this Supybot is 0.83.3.  The newest version available online is 0.83.4.1.

22:16 <vomitory> but that's impossible, how would he know that 9000 is 1/3 of my monthly pay?

22:16 <MTughan> Because of a plugin called Markov.

22:16 <MTughan> BOINC?

22:16 <Romulus> BOINC is all perfect and stuff, MTughan

22:16 <vomitory> excuse me?

22:17 <MTughan> &google Markov

22:17 <Romulus> MTughan: Search took 0.18 seconds: Markov chain - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markov_chain>; Andrey Markov - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrey_Markov>; Markov summary: <http://www.gap-system.org/~history/Mathematicians/Markov.html>; Markov biography: <http://www.gap-system.org/~history/Biographies/Markov.html>; Markov (2 more messages)

22:17 <PovAddict> markov doesn't do any of those

22:17 <PovAddict> in fact

22:17 <PovAddict> &markov

22:17 <Romulus> PovAddict: lolwut?

22:17 <PovAddict> the module isn't even loaded

22:17 <MTughan> Oh.

22:17 <vomitory> &balls

22:17 <Romulus> vomitory: Are you daft?

22:17 <MTughan> Factoids?

22:17 <vomitory> no

22:17 <vomitory> Romulus: i am not daft

22:17 <Romulus> vomitory: Are you daft?

22:17 <vomitory> no

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22:17 <MTughan> Why the heck does he always respond "Are you daft?" to vomitory anyway?

22:17 <vomitory> MTughan: exactly

22:17 <MTughan> &list dunno

22:17 <Romulus> MTughan: add, change, get, remove, search, and stats

22:17 <Tank_Master> cus he know vomitory so well

22:18 <vomitory> MTughan: he knows i have a thing for being called daft

22:18 <MTughan> &dunno remove 1

22:18 <Romulus> MTughan: Error: You don't have the #boinc,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.

22:18 <MTughan> Gah...

22:18 <vomitory> Romulus: are you daft?

22:18 <Romulus> vomitory: I dunno.

22:18 <Tank_Master> haha

22:18 <vomitory> Romulus: you are quite daft

22:18 <Romulus> vomitory: lolwut?

22:18 <vomitory> Romulus: that's right, daft like a mule

22:18 <Romulus> vomitory: Are you daft?

22:18 <vomitory> Romulus: no, but YOU are

22:18 <MTughan> wdsmia?

22:18 <Romulus> vomitory: lolwut?

22:18 <Romulus> hmm... wdsmia is away, MTughan

22:19 <vomitory> Romulus: time to run, before i get banned, you dirty cock-sucking freak

22:19 <Romulus> vomitory: Error: 'run,' is not a valid floating point number.

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22:19 <Tank_Master> ahh, quiet at last

22:19 <MTughan> Feel free to ban him. And you might want to ban *!*@unaffiliated/vomitory as well, he's asked for a cloak.

22:20 <Tank_Master> that for wdsmia?

22:20 <MTughan> Yes.

22:20 <Tank_Master> cant eith hawmps oe xcamel do that to?

22:21 <Tank_Master> or*

22:21 <MTughan> Yes, but do you see any coming?

22:21 <MTughan> Even CoderForLife can do it.

22:21 <Tank_Master> ahh, ok\

22:22 <MTughan> xcamel has been inactive for 3 hours, hawmps for 8.5 hours.

22:22 <MTughan> CFL looks like he's been inactive for just over an hour.

22:23 <MTughan> wdsmia's been 20 minutes.

22:23 <Tank_Master> ah, ok

22:23 <Tank_Master> bah

22:24 <Tank_Master> why does misfit ask for friendship from me in every project?

22:24 <Tank_Master> someone needs to take his request button away

22:25 <jasong> Who's misfit?  I think he might just search out all the #boinc people in the various project and ask to friend them, it's happened to me too

22:26 <jasong> he might have a bit of ocd going on

22:26 <Hodapp> hrmmm

22:26 <Hodapp> GPUGRID keeps finishing immediately and I don't know why

22:26 <Hodapp> and I always have to wait 24 hours to try more stuff

22:26 * Hodapp punches things

22:26 <Tank_Master> what video card do you have?

22:27 <Hodapp> One that works with CUDA because I have built and run various things in the SDK

22:27 <Tank_Master> misfit is a trouble maker on the SETI forums

22:27 <MTughan> jasong: Misfit tried to be *everyone's* friend on *every* project.

22:28 <Tank_Master> gpugrid wont work with CUDA 1.0 vid cards (early 8800s)

22:28 <Tank_Master> also, wont hurt to have the latest drivers

22:28 <MTughan> vomitory has his cloak...

22:29 <Tank_Master> he have a dagger yet?

22:29 <Hodapp> Tank_Master: It has the latest drivers; compute capability is 1.1.

22:29 <MTughan> No, but he's interested in the situation between freenode and mibbit.

22:30 <Tank_Master> have you tryied detaching and reattaching tot he project?

22:31 <jasong> the name misfit seems very appropriate

22:31 <Hodapp> Tank_Master: Yeah, and it's the same thing. It downloads the app, the app runs and finishes immediately, and it throttles me for sending in too many results after this has happened several times.

22:32 <Tank_Master> strange

22:32 <Tank_Master> mine is running fine on my win7 x64 with the geforce 250

22:32 <Hodapp> This happened once before on a different card but I can't recall how I fixed it.

22:33 <Hodapp> The app kept quitting immediately with some sort of error and nothing handled that error

22:33 <jasong> Is there an easy way to turn all the updates(or whatever they're called) in a feed into a locally generated web page?

22:34 <jasong> Some of the stuff has ellipses at the end, and I want to know everything they say without having to download the stuff

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