IRC logs of #boinc for Thursday, 2009-07-02

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00:05 <Hickster-1> Hi

00:05 <Hickster-1> What is the point of this channel?

00:06 <umccullough> just going out on a limb, but probably to discuss boinc?

00:07 <Hickster-1> hi

00:07 <Hickster-1> What is boicn?

00:07 <umccullough>

00:07 <Romulus> Title: Let me google that for you (at

00:08 <Hickster-1> Ok

00:08 <Hickster-1> I honestly have no idea

00:08 <Hickster-1> That page was useless.

00:08 <MTughan> BOINC is a distributed computing client.

00:08 <umccullough> well, i apologize, perhaps wikipedia would be more useful :)

00:08 <Hickster-1> Maybe!

00:08 <Hickster-1> Well -

00:08 <Hickster-1> What are you guys doing with it?

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00:11 <Hickster-1> OK

00:11 <Hickster-1> Comeon

00:11 <Hickster-1> This opens your mind

00:13 <MTughan> How about reading up on distributed computing first? That's the basis for any BOINC project.

00:13 <MTughan> Once you understand distributed computing most other stuff becomes BOINC specific.

00:13 <Hickster-1> OK

00:14 <Hickster-1> So you guys use other peoples computers CPU's to help process data?

00:14 <MTughan> We're mostly end users here, so we donate our CPU time to help process data.

00:15 <Hickster-1> What data do you process?

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00:15 <MTughan> Depends on the project we run.

00:15 <Hickster-1> Whats the lastest and greatest you've decided to run?

00:15 <Hickster-1> Wasn't SATI about it?

00:16 <Hickster-1> Processing Data for Extra Terrestrial Life?

00:16 <MTughan> SETI@home is one of the bigger projects, if not the biggest, yes.

00:16 <MTughan> Their client searches radio telescope signals for signs of life.

00:18 <Hickster-1> OK

00:18 <Hickster-1> Now I know

00:18 <Hickster-1> So you guys are the software to do this kind of processing?

00:18 <MTughan> What do you mean?

00:19 <Hickster-1> Bionic is what orchestrates all the processors?

00:19 <MTughan> BOINC, and somewhat yes.

00:20 <MTughan> BOINC downloads packets of data, known as workunits, and the applications to process them from the server, however many according to how many processors, how long it needs data for, and how many projects it's attached to.

00:21 <Hickster-1> Sounds complex.

00:21 <Hickster-1> How did you guys learn this stuff?

00:21 <MTughan> It's fairly simple, but it more requires pictures to explain easily.

00:23 <Hickster-1> Has anything come of SETI?

00:23 <MTughan> Not that I know of yet.

00:23 <Hickster-1> Any glimpse into possible ET data?

00:24 <KidpunkX> chicka

00:25 <KidpunkX> bitcha

00:25 <KidpunkX> whats up all

00:25 <KidpunkX> what is the dilio!!!!

00:25 <KidpunkX> daddy O

00:25 <KidpunkX> zombies alert!!!

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00:27 <MTughan> Hickster-1: I think we've found the first one for SETI.

00:39 <Hickster-1> What?

00:39 <Hickster-1> Who has found an alien?

00:39 <Hickster-1> MTughan - You think you have?

00:39 <Hickster-1> Do tell.

00:40 <MTughan> I was talking about KidpunkX.

00:41 <KidpunkX> lol

00:41 <KidpunkX> :-P

00:41 <KidpunkX> !commands

00:41 <KidpunkX> !help

00:41 <KidpunkX> oh well

00:41 <Hickster-1> No alien talk?

00:42 <MTughan> &help

00:42 <Romulus> MTughan: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.

00:43 <MTughan> Hickster-1: Well, SETI may be the biggest project overall, but it's not the main project of people in here.

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00:43 <umccullough> imo, it's a waste of cpu

00:43 <umccullough> i'd rather search for primes :P

00:44 <Hickster-1> Well

00:44 <Hickster-1> Ofcourse its a waste of CPU!

00:44 <Hickster-1> What data are they even processing?

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00:45 <umccullough> radio signals

00:45 <umccullough> the algorithm scores each chunk on its "interestingness"

00:45 <umccullough> then it goes into a pile which is sifted further

00:45 <Hickster-1> Is there any truth to the data?

00:45 <umccullough> it's just data

00:45 <umccullough> from radio telescopes

00:45 <Hickster-1> I mean - what are you expect to process? Voices?

00:46 <umccullough> anything "interesting"

00:46 <umccullough> patterns, whatever

00:46 <umccullough> anything that doesn't look like noise

00:46 <Hickster-1> Ya

00:46 <Hickster-1> How far have the radio signals projected ?

00:46 <umccullough> the amount of data to process is more than you could imagine I suspect

00:46 <umccullough> i'm sure there's plenty to read about here:

00:46 <Romulus> Title: SETI@home - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at

00:47 <Hickster-1> I just wanted your input

00:47 <umccullough> i don't crunch it, i hate that project

00:47 <Hickster-1> I know you know a ton about the subject.

00:47 <Hickster-1> Really?

00:47 <umccullough> yeah, pointless

00:47 <Hickster-1> Whats your favorite project?

00:47 <umccullough> i dunno, i crunk a few dozen

00:47 <umccullough> crunch

00:47 <umccullough> i like the biological/medical projects

00:48 <umccullough> but also the physics ones

00:48 <umccullough>

00:48 <Romulus> <> (at

00:48 <umccullough> i'm crunching SETI right now as an experiment on a new OS platform, but i will likely quit soon :/

00:48 <umccullough> only a single machine on it

00:49 <umccullough> in fact, i did quit...the machine is idle

00:50 <Hickster-1> Can't we do something to attract aliens?

00:50 <Hickster-1> Using processors?

00:50 <umccullough> yeah, heat up our atmosphere till they come here to see why our planet is glowing ;)

00:51 <Hickster-1> Thats a good idea!

00:51 <Hickster-1> Well are well on course to doing that too!

00:51 <umccullough> we've been sending a beacon since we started broadcasting radio signals on earth

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00:53 <Hickster-1> I wonder how far radio signals have traveled?

00:53 <umccullough> until they get absorbed by matter

00:54 <umccullough> or reflected

00:55 <umccullough> of course, speed of light limits things

00:55 <Hickster-1> Interesting stuff.

00:56 <Hickster-1> umcullough - what do you think is a brilliant idea to share processor speeds?

00:56 <Hickster-1> I mean - share processors to process data?

00:58 <KidpunkX> &help

00:58 <Romulus> KidpunkX: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.

00:59 <KidpunkX> MTughan, thanks

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01:22 <efc> hey umccullough, if you are interested, #radioastronomy can help with that kind of question.

01:22 <umccullough> not terribly interested :)

01:22 <umccullough> but thanks

01:23 * umccullough is trying to calculate how much concrete he poured around his house in the last two weeks

01:23 <efc> ok. The distance the signals can travel is somewhat frequency related, but most of radio can travel practically forever.

01:23 <umccullough> yeah, i would guess - until it hits something

01:23 <efc> But it gets weaker on an inverse-squared basis.

01:23 <umccullough> looks like maybe i poured 40 cubic yards

01:23 <efc> Wow

01:23 <umccullough> yeah...

01:23 <umccullough> hurts the wallet

01:24 <efc> Building a dam? Talk to CoderForLife about The Wall hehe.

01:24 <umccullough> heh

01:24 <umccullough> i need to pour the rest of my driveway eventually

01:24 <umccullough> probably another 20 :P

01:32 <zombie67> damn quiet

01:32 <efc> Getting truck deliveries?

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01:42 <umccullough> efc, yeah, i have a group of contractors doing the work

01:42 <umccullough> they're handling the dirty work :)

01:42 <efc> That would be a lot of 40 lb bags hehe

01:43 <KidpunkX> lol

01:43 <KidpunkX> this is crazy

01:44 <umccullough> heh, here bags come in 60 and 90 lb ;)

01:45 <umccullough> but yeah, this is all truck loads

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03:13 <KidpunkX> lol

03:13 <KidpunkX> zombie67

03:13 <KidpunkX> hahahaha

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03:37 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

03:37 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 61.8F / 16.6C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 29.53in / 999.9hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy with a 20 percent chance of showers. Highs in the lower 70s. West winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. A slight chance of showers in the evening. Lows in the upper 50s. West winds 5 to 10 mph. (1 more message)

03:38 <CoderForLife> &more

03:38 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Chance of rain 20 percent.; Friday - Partly sunny. Highs in the lower 80s. West winds 5 to 10 mph.;

03:38 <efc> moo cfl

03:39 <CoderForLife> moo efc

03:39 <efc> looking for a place to live

03:39 <CoderForLife> seem like you live here

03:40 <efc> that doesn't help

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04:40 <CoderForLife> I would never suggest that

04:42 <efc> nothing close in enough

04:45 <efc> old floor standing lamp that I don't use anymore was 250 watts

04:47 <efc> now I use a CFL thats about 23

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05:20 <ELGono> &weather meiningen,germany

05:20 <Romulus> ELGono: Temperature: 70°F / 21°C | Humidity: 73% | Pressure: 30.15in / 1021hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h | Updated: 10:50 AM CEST; Chance of a Thunderstorm. High:77 F.; Chance of a Thunderstorm. Low:60 F.; Chance of a Thunderstorm. High:75 F.; Chance of a Thunderstorm. Low:60 F.; Thunderstorm. High:78 F.; Chance of a Thunderstorm. (1 more message)

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06:29 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

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06:29 <wdsmia> &more

06:29 <Romulus> wdsmia: thunderstorms in the morning...then thunderstorms likely in the afternoon. High around 80. South wind near 10 mph. Chance of thunderstorms 60 percent.;

06:48 <hawmps> 'mornin

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08:19 <hawmps> &wx 12020

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08:19 <hawmps> &more

08:19 <Romulus> hawmps: winds around 5 mph. Chance of rain 90 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Showers likely with a chance of thunderstorms in the evening...then a chance of showers after midnight. Patchy fog after midnight. Some thunderstorms may be severe with heavy rainfall. Lows in the lower 60s. South winds around 5 mph. Chance of rain 60 percent.; Friday - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers in the (1 more message)

08:19 <hawmps> &more

08:19 <Romulus> hawmps: morning...then showers likely with a chance of thunderstorms in the afternoon. Highs in the upper 70s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. Chance of rain 70 percent.; Flash Flood Watch for Saratoga County in effect until 6:00 AM EDT on July 03, 2009;

08:19 <hawmps> day 7...

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09:01 <MTughan> Well, don't I feel like an idiot now... I rush all around to get to an exam at 9AM. I get to the room, but it's a different exam there. I rush around to find a free computer, and what do I find out?

09:01 <MTughan> My exam's at 19:00, not 9:00.

09:11 <hawmps> so go get a donut

09:11 <MTughan> I'll look at dogs instead:

09:11 <Romulus> <> (at

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11:25 <PovAddict> lol MTughan

11:25 * PovAddict sends to failblog

11:26 <PovAddict> ;)

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11:56 <jackygrahamez> hi

11:56 <jackygrahamez> I've been quarantined

11:57 <Tank_Master> o0?

11:57 <Tank_Master> why?

11:57 <jackygrahamez> There was a suspicious package in the mail room and they won't let us leave

11:57 <Tank_Master> ahh

11:58 <Tank_Master> trouble maker

11:58 <Tank_Master> your suposed to leave *before* your package arrives

11:58 <Tank_Master> anywho, im off for vacation ;)

11:58 <Tank_Master> have a good weekend

11:58 <jackygrahamez> was it my calendar with Pamela Anderson?

11:59 <jackygrahamez> dude this is serious though

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12:48 <jackygrahamez> quarantine was lifted :-)

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12:59 <hawmps> quarantine on?

13:00 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx sxf

13:00 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 72°F / 22°C | Humidity: 78% | Pressure: 30.01in / 1016hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h | Updated: 6:50 PM CEST; Thunderstorm. High:77 F.; Chance of a Thunderstorm. Low:64 F.; Chance of Rain. High:78 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:59 F.; Clear. High:80 F.; Overcast. Low:66 F.;

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13:09 <desti>

13:09 <Romulus> Title: Building Tipped on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (at

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13:23 <hawmps> wow

13:35 <PovAddict> hawmps:  [12:57] <jackygrahamez> There was a suspicious package in the mail room and they won't let us leave

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13:57 <hawmps> suspicious package in the mail room - oh there are just soooo many good jokes in that one...

14:06 <PovAddict> lol

14:06 <PovAddict> go ahead :D

14:21 <hawmps> can boinc **not** do cpu and gpu stuff at the same time?

14:22 <PovAddict> I thought that was the whole point of 6.4/6.6

14:34 <hawmps> I have 2 cpus and 1 gpu, and only 2 tasks ever show as running.

14:35 <PovAddict> did you ever mess with <ncpus> in cc_config.xml from before BOINC got GPU support?

14:35 <PovAddict> (I saw many people recommending that horrible workaround in forums)

14:35 <hawmps> no, or not that I recall.

14:35 <hawmps> I don't think I even hace a cc_config.xml

14:36 <PovAddict> heh

14:36 <PovAddict> good

14:36 <hawmps> er have, even.

14:37 <hawmps> I was hoping to get a definitive answer from Doug, but that hasn't happened.

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15:28 <jasong> Why would a router allow a range of ports, but not a range of IPs?  That question really frustrates me, because I can change ports until the cows come home, but I have no way to tell the router to pay attention to a range of IPs, which is what I truly need.

15:29 <jasong> Correction, it allows a range, but it will not allow a range of IPs for exactly one port

15:31 <PovAddict> huh

15:31 <PovAddict> for firewall?

15:31 <jasong> for a torrent program

15:31 <PovAddict> ...

15:31 <PovAddict> so port forwarding

15:31 <jasong> But, yes, the firewall is part of the problem

15:31 <PovAddict> ?

15:31 <jasong> yes

15:31 <PovAddict> how can you forward a single port into multiple local IPs?

15:32 <jasong> Well, my laptop changes it's local IP, but the router only allows associating one IP with a port, or range of ports

15:32 <PovAddict> if a connection comes from the outside to port 12345, a router can only do two things: drop it, or forward it to a single place

15:32 <jasong> Unless, I want to take over about ten entries in the interface, I'm screwed

15:33 <PovAddict> you can't forward a connection to multiple places, that makes no sense

15:33 <jasong> No, I'm not forwarding it to multiple places, just the IP my laptop has at the time

15:33 <PovAddict> give your laptop a static IP

15:33 <jasong> How?

15:33 <Romulus> How is breakfast, jasong

15:34 <PovAddict> network configuration of your operating system

15:41 <[B^S]renemayer> jasong : makes undoing the changes easy

15:41 <Romulus> Title: NetSetMan - Net!@#& Settings Manager | Freeware & Professional (at

15:41 <[B^S]renemayer> if you want to connect to other lans

15:50 <xcamel> re-hi

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16:37 <sethy> 'lo

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18:11 <xcamel> re-hi

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18:23 <PovAddict> xcamel: you say you only see two jobs running on a dual; are both CPU jobs?

18:24 <PovAddict> there is a setting for whether to run GPU jobs while "computer is in use" or not, by default set not to... did you check that?

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18:32 <CoderForLife> TGITh

18:33 <CoderForLife> heya sethy

18:33 <kathryn_> TGIF

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18:33 <CoderForLife> heya K

18:33 * KathrynM yawns

18:43 <xcamel> 'lo Don

18:45 <xcamel> 'lo K

18:46 <xcamel> any pictures of Gadget er.. Gidgett?

18:46 <PovAddict> mew

18:47 <KathrynM> nothing new

18:47 * KathrynM wonders where she is

18:47 <PovAddict> lol

18:48 <KathrynM> I also wonder how something so tiny can poop so much

18:48 <PovAddict> &grab KathrynM

18:48 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.

18:48 <KathrynM> great

18:53 <xcamel> lost the link to your flicker page... :-(

18:54 <xcamel> and I guess I'm going to have to post a picture of 'Lumber Duck'

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19:06 <PovAddict> &url last --from KathrynM --with flickr

19:06 <Romulus> PovAddict:

19:06 <PovAddict> guess that's not it

19:07 <PovAddict> &url last --from KathrynM --with flickr --without litlnemo

19:07 <Romulus> PovAddict: No URLs matched that criteria.

19:08 <xcamel> &url last --from KathrynM --with flickr

19:08 <Romulus> xcamel:

19:08 <xcamel> nope.

19:08 <PovAddict> &url last --from KathrynM --with flickr --nolimit

19:08 <Romulus> PovAddict: <>

19:09 <PovAddict> &url last --from KathrynM --with picasa

19:09 <Romulus> PovAddict:

19:10 <KathrynM>

19:10 <Romulus> <> (at

19:10 <KathrynM> this what you're looking for?

19:13 <xcamel> a picture of the little one..

19:13 <CoderForLife>

19:13 <Romulus> <> (at

19:14 <xcamel> great... Ant domination...

19:18 <KathrynM>

19:18 <Romulus> <> (at

19:18 <KathrynM> that's Gidgette's album

19:18 <KathrynM> I need to get them both updated

19:19 <xcamel> a tiny thing..

19:19 <xcamel> but she's cute.

19:26 <KathrynM> 370 grams according to the scale at the vet

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19:28 <xcamel> I think lumber duck weighs about 30 grams...

19:29 <xcamel> CoderForLife >> "All your aphids are belong to Us!"

19:29 <CoderForLife> lol

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19:39 <CoderForLife> bbiab - going outside to look at the new chimney cap

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19:55 <CoderForLife> back - look$ good

19:55 <xcamel> cool.

19:56 <CoderForLife> that should stop the leak

19:56 <efc> moo

19:56 <CoderForLife> permanently - or as permanently as stainless steel

19:57 <xcamel> only the best

19:57 <CoderForLife> we obviously spare no expense around here

19:58 <xcamel> well.. off to the boob tube.

19:58 <CoderForLife> I wasn't going to go up there and hang over the edge of forever and paint anything, ever

19:58 <CoderForLife> ditto here

19:58 <CoderForLife> gn all

19:59 * CoderForLife sees he was never here, but away

20:02 <efc> Packing up

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20:58 <KidpunkX> ?

20:58 <KidpunkX> this is

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23:13 <jasong> Does anyone know when Intel is going to announce their new SSD drives?  Last I checked, it was two weeks away, but I don't remember what day that was :(

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