IRC logs of #boinc for Thursday, 2009-07-09

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00:20 <zombie67> wow.  renderfarm site is now a nightmare

00:20 <zombie67> is this what boinc is moving to?

00:21 <PovAddict> what site?

00:21 <Romulus> what site is it, KathrynM, PovAddict

00:21 <PovAddict> renderfarm.fi?

00:21 <zombie67> http://www.renderfarm.fi/forum_index.php

00:21 <Romulus> Title: Message boards | Renderfarm.fi (at www.renderfarm.fi)

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00:22 <MTughan> Wow...

00:22 <PovAddict> not really...

00:22 <PovAddict> that's still BOINC forum code

00:23 <MTughan> I could see the BOINC interface moving to more graphics, but not like that.

00:23 <PovAddict> and that design doesn't look anything like drupal anyway

00:25 <zombie67> go to the login page

00:25 <zombie67> it keeps reloading and appending the same url over and over

00:25 * umccullough doesn't see any text links

00:25 <umccullough> website fail

00:26 <PovAddict> anyway, don't worry, that's renderfarm.fi-specific stupidity :)

00:26 <PovAddict> BOINC is not "moving to that"

00:26 <umccullough> thankfully

00:26 <MTughan> There's two links in the top that have the same target.

00:27 <umccullough> i gave up when i reached to always-reloading login page

00:27 <zombie67> that's just plain icky

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01:19 <PovAddict> moin yoyo

01:20 <yoyo[RKN]> moin

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01:59 <jasong> Okay, stupid question time again, if a European online rag says the US dollar is rising, is that about inflation or deflation?  In other words, do you have to pay more dollars to get the same thing, or is the VALUE rising?

02:00 <jasong> http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1433020/worldwide-pc-spending-drop-percent

02:00 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/ls6xvb> (at www.theinquirer.net)

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04:02 <yoyo[RKN]> &math 1880 * 4

04:02 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: 7520

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06:37 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

06:37 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 61.2F / 16.2C | Humidity: 92% | Pressure: 29.97in / 1014.8hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Cloudy with scattered thunderstorms in the morning...then partly sunny early in the afternoon. Partly sunny with a slight chance of thunderstorms late in the afternoon. High in the mid 80s. Southeast wind 10 to 15 mph (1 more message)

06:37 <wdsmia> &more

06:37 <Romulus> wdsmia: with gusts to around 25 mph. Chance of thunderstorms 30 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy with a 40 percent chance of thunderstorms. Low around 70. Southeast wind 5 to 15 mph. Gusts up to 25 mph through midnight.; Friday - Partly sunny with a 50 percent chance of thunderstorms. High in the mid 80s. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph shifting to the southwest in the afternoon.;

06:37 <hawmps> 'mornin

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06:43 <evilTughan> Don't ask.

06:49 <hawmps> .37 still doesn't show cpu vs cuda apps running like winduhs does..

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11:20 <yang> Are there any other medicine projects beside folding@home and WCG ?

11:20 <yang> &whatis sparc

11:20 <Romulus> yang: Error: No factoid matches that key.

11:21 <yang> &whatis platform_list

11:21 <Romulus> yang: "platform_list" could be http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php

11:21 <yang> &whatis i686

11:21 <Romulus> yang: Error: No factoid matches that key.

11:21 <MTughan> yang: You could try Rosetta@home.

11:21 <MTughan> &google Rosetta@home

11:22 <Romulus> MTughan: Search took 0.25 seconds: Rosetta @ home: <http://boinc.bakerlab.org/>; What is Rosetta @ home ?: <http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/rah_about.php>; Rosetta @ home - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosetta@home>; YouTube - Rosetta @ home: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzATbET3g54>; ESA Science & Technology: Rosetta: <http://sci.esa.int/rosetta/>; (2 more messages)

11:22 <MTughan> Also, Folding@Home isn't a BOINC project.

11:22 <yang> Thanks

11:22 <yang> Folding isn't anymore?

11:22 <yang> It used to work via boinc

11:23 <MTughan> It never was.

11:23 <yang> it was Folding "something" not sure if it was folding@home

11:23 <yang> it had some sort of a screensaver too

11:29 <Tank_Master> folding at home for BOINC was abandoned long ago

11:29 <Tank_Master> it never made it out of the alpha stage

11:30 <Tank_Master> they desided instead to develop GPU apps

11:31 <Tank_Master> but yeah, theres several medical projects

11:31 <Tank_Master> WCG, lattice, simap, rosetta....

11:31 <MTughan> Yeah, I don't know them all. Rosetta and WCG are the ones I remember.

11:32 <MTughan> After all, I'm only crunching WCG and MW anyway.

11:32 <yang> MW ?

11:32 <Romulus> MW is back up, yang

11:32 <yang> &whatis MW

11:32 <Romulus> yang: "MW" could be Milkyway@Home: a research project that does research in modeling and determining the evolution of the Milkyway galaxy.

11:32 <MTughan> Milkyway@home

11:32 <MTughan> &google Milkyway@Home

11:32 <Romulus> MTughan: Search took 0.21 seconds: MilkyWay @ home: <http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/>; Account data for BlkJack-21: <http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/show_user.php?userid=647>; MilkyWay @ home: <http://www.unitedboinc.com/projects/66-milkyway-at-home>; YouTube - Sonny Landreth Live - The Milky Way Home: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1gBnznYeW4>; Overall project stats for Milkyway @ Home: (2 more messages)

11:33 <Tank_Master> lol

11:33 <MTughan> Sonny Landreth Live?

11:33 <Tank_Master> account data for my team leader :P

11:34 <yang> i am wondering are there any projects that will work on sparc

11:34 <Tank_Master> there are a few

11:34 <Tank_Master> but not meny

11:34 <MTughan> You can find third party applications for SETI on SPARC, but I don't think any project supports SPARC by default.

11:34 <MTughan> I don't think it's even a supported BOINC platform.

11:35 <yang> until now i didn't have any luck

11:36 <yang> BOINC was packaged for all platforms in debian, so I thought that it will work on any

11:37 <MTughan> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/BoincPlatforms

11:37 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6gcees> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

11:37 <MTughan> So it looks like Solaris and Linux are both supported on SPARC.

11:38 <yang> i allready tried SETI, but couldn't convince it to start the calculation

11:38 <yang> (on sparc)

11:39 <Tank_Master> be default, BOINC wont run if the user is active

11:40 <hawmps> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap090709.html

11:40 <Romulus> Title: APOD: 2009 July 9 - Fermi s Gamma ray Pulsars (at antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov)

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12:28 <sethy> hey

12:29 <sethy> i have some awesome news

12:29 <sethy> well more like

12:29 <sethy> event

12:29 <sethy> On August 7th 2009 @ 34 minutes and 56 seconds past 12.. the time and date will be.. 12:34:56 7/8/09 123456789 This won't happen again for another 1000 years

12:30 <MTughan> What timezone?

12:30 <sethy> any?

12:30 <sethy> generally would be UTC

12:30 <sethy> cos its like

12:30 <sethy> universal

12:30 <sethy> thing

12:30 <sethy> but then again, i live in britain soo

12:30 <MTughan> So you admit bias. :P

12:31 <sethy> well any time zone really

12:32 <sethy> i'm not selebrating at 1 in the morning for new zealand

12:32 <sethy> celebrating

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12:57 <hawmps> 7/8 was yesterday...

12:57 <hawmps> not august..

13:00 <MTughan> Depends on what numbering system you use.

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13:14 <vomitory> anyone here played the rosetta game "fold-it" ?

13:14 <vomitory> Romulus: are you daft?

13:14 <Romulus> vomitory: I dunno.

13:14 <vomitory> Romulus: well maybe you should know, since you are the gatekeeper to #boinc

13:14 <Romulus> vomitory: No idea!

13:14 <vomitory> Romulus: that's no excuse for bafoonerie

13:14 <Romulus> vomitory: I dunno.

13:15 <vomitory> well then, the case is settled, you do not know

13:16 <MTughan> vomitory: Seriously, it's a damn bot.

13:17 <MTughan> And no, I haven't played that game.

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13:31 <hawmps> noobs are phunny.

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14:01 <sethy> hawmps

14:01 <sethy> i'm in england

14:01 <sethy> datestamp is day month

14:01 <sethy> not month day like you guys

14:04 <yoyo[RKN]> moin

14:04 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx sxf

14:04 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 63°F / 17°C | Humidity: 55% | Pressure: 29.83in / 1010hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 14mph / 22km/h | Updated: 7:50 PM CEST; Chance of Rain. High:68 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:53 F.; Chance of Rain. High:64 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:51 F.; Chance of Rain. High:62 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:51 F.;

14:04 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx txl

14:04 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 59°F / 15°C | Humidity: 72% | Pressure: 29.83in / 1010hPa | Conditions: Light Rain Showers | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h | Updated: 7:50 PM CEST; Chance of Rain. High:69 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:55 F.; Chance of Rain. High:66 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:48 F.; Chance of Rain. High:66 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:53 F.;

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15:05 <hawmps> seti is uploading again...

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15:32 <PovAddict> mouse dead again

15:35 <PovAddict> and nobody could ever tell me how to make X reload its mouse driver or whatever

15:35 <PovAddict> so... restarting X

15:35 <PovAddict> I'll even have to use a strange dcop command to open the K menu and quit my session

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15:42 <DerMeister> PovAddict: You could have pressed ctrl+alt+backspace as well :P

15:43 <PovAddict> few apps are smart enough to cleanly save their state when the X connection drops; software sucks

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15:44 <DerMeister> And X sucks most... ;)

15:45 <PovAddict> indeed

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16:01 <PovAddict> I think Dotsch/UX should run DirectFB with a custom BOINC Manager made for it

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17:22 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

17:22 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 75.0F / 23.9C | Humidity: 74% | Pressure: 29.79in / 1008.7hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a slight chance of showers this evening...then partly cloudy after midnight. Lows in the lower 60s. East winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Friday - Partly sunny. Highs in the upper 80s. (1 more message)

17:23 <CoderForLife> &more

17:23 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Southeast winds around 5 mph...becoming southwest in the afternoon.; Friday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows in the upper 60s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph.;

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17:25 <wdsmia> re-hi

17:26 <CoderForLife> hi Doug

17:26 <wdsmia> *lo Don

17:36 <PovAddict> &seen jackygrahamez

17:36 <Romulus> PovAddict: jackygrahamez was last seen in #boinc 1 week, 0 days, 4 hours, 48 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: <jackygrahamez> quarantine was lifted :-)

17:37 <PovAddict> &any jackygrahamez

17:37 <Romulus> PovAddict: jackygrahamez was last seen in #boinc 1 week, 0 days, 4 hours, 46 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: *** jackygrahamez has quit IRC ("Beware of programmers who carry screwdrivers.")

17:37 <PovAddict> &any jackygrahamez_

17:37 <Romulus> PovAddict: jackygrahamez_ was last seen in #boinc 2 weeks, 2 days, 14 hours, 38 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: *** jackygrahamez_ has quit IRC (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))

17:41 <PovAddict> <Mr_Nobu> So what if Jesus turned water into wine...I turned a whole student loan into Vodka once. Your move Jesus...

17:42 <yoyo[RKN]> is <max_wus_in_progress> per host or per core?

17:43 <PovAddict> even though *I* wrote that feature, I honestly have no idea

17:43 <PovAddict> David changed it from per host to per core and back more than once

17:43 <yoyo[RKN]> and now it depends on my server version :(

17:43 <PovAddict> yup :P

17:44 <yoyo[RKN]> grrr

17:44 <PovAddict> I think I wrote it to be per host, then from user feedback I changed it to per core

17:44 <PovAddict> months later I sent that code to boinc_dev

17:44 <PovAddict> David changed it back to per host before committing

17:44 <PovAddict> I think he changed it back to per core eventually...

17:44 <PovAddict> the documentation doesn't say? :)

17:45 <yoyo[RKN]> <max_wus_in_progress> N </max_wus_in_progress>

17:45 <yoyo[RKN]> <max_wus_in_progress_gpu> M </max_wus_in_progress_gpu>

17:45 <yoyo[RKN]> Limit the number of jobs in progress on a given host (and thus limit average turnaround time). Starting with 6.8, the BOINC client report the resources used by in-progress jobs; in this case, the max CPU jobs in progress is N*NCPUS and the max GPU jobs in progress is M*NGPUs. Otherwise, the overall maximum is N*NCPUS + M*NGPUS).

17:46 <PovAddict> oh yeah, then he made the mess bigger with GPUs... yeah, now I really have no idea how that thing works at all :)

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17:46 <yoyo[RKN]> on my old server it seems to be per host

17:47 <yoyo[RKN]> on my new version it seems to be per core

17:47 <PovAddict> if the server had a version number, and/or *came* with documentation, you could find the manual that matched the version you have...

17:47 <yoyo[RKN]> lol

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