IRC logs of #boinc for Monday, 2009-07-20

00:01 <PovAddict> WeightLoss -> WeigthDifference [sic] -> WeightMeasure -> BiophysicalMeasure -> BiologicalMeasure

00:01 <PovAddict> you'd think a medicine website would know how to spell "weight", especially in a format spec...

00:02 <CoderForLife> heh

00:02 <MTughan> I wonder what "sic" really means anyway.

00:02 <CoderForLife> spelling is correct

00:03 <MTughan> Ah.

00:03 <PovAddict> [bs]

00:03 <PovAddict> "Sic is a Latin word meaning 'thus', 'so', 'as such', or 'in such a manner'."

00:03 <MTughan> Actually, it's apparently a Latin word, but the English "acronym" works.

00:03 <PovAddict> I took it from wikipedia, which is always right

00:03 <MTughan> Yeah, Pov and I went to the same source. ;P

00:05 <CoderForLife> you'd ask me to select Wikipedia over my high school English class?

00:06 <CoderForLife> Mrs. Rundo would come back to haunt me once again

00:07 <CoderForLife> how else would I know about "Crossing The Bar" and "The Lady or The Tiger"?

00:10 * CoderForLife reads some tweets

00:12 <CoderForLife> local weatherman is worried about the impact of global cooling - we are setting records for the coldest high temps each day

00:12 <PovAddict> &wx eze

00:12 <Romulus> PovAddict: Temperature: 57°F / 14°C | Humidity: 72% | Pressure: 30.21in / 1023hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 13mph / 20km/h | Updated: 12:00 AM ART; Scattered Clouds. High:62 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:50 F.; Scattered Clouds. High:62 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:51 F.; Rain. High:57 F.; Rain. Low:37 F.;

00:13 <CoderForLife> new record for yesterday is 70F, the previous was 75F

00:14 <CoderForLife> hmm - "Argentina declares nationwide [swine flu] alert"

00:16 <PovAddict> today we had lunch with relatives, and got reports of two people affected farther in the family tree

00:18 <PovAddict> but they are recovered, and naturally protected from having it again

00:19 <CoderForLife> some scant comfort

00:19 <PovAddict> I saw on TV about many people who were voluntarily helping in hospitals, after having recovered from swine flu themselves

00:19 <PovAddict> since they can't get it anymore, it's safe for them to deal with people who have it

00:22 <CoderForLife> an interesting approach

00:23 <MTughan> I caught something like a flu last week. May have been swine flu. Just fighting off the last of it now.

00:23 <CoderForLife> un-good

00:24 <MTughan> Well, I'm definitely doing better than I was last Friday.

00:24 <MTughan> At least I was home for that part.

00:24 * CoderForLife turns on the back massage cushion

00:25 <PovAddict> :o

00:25 <MTughan> Now it's essentially just a slightly stuffy nose and a dry throat.

00:30 * CoderForLife works the cushion up his back

00:31 <zombie67> swine flu = wimpiest flu ever

00:32 <zombie67> regular flu kills like 36k people in the US every year.

00:34 * Tank_Master thinks the swine flu should be renamed the french flu

00:34 <MTughan> Yeah, but it seems that swine flu has much greater contractability than other types.

00:34 <Tank_Master> ehh, its just media hype

00:35 <Tank_Master> you know they cant resist taking soemthing benine and turning it into the most severe thing ever to happen

00:36 <CoderForLife> well -  I think I'll go for a hot soak, then back to bed to get some more sleep before the w@#% week begins

00:37 <CoderForLife> this back massage cushion I got for Father's Day is great

00:37 <Tank_Master> hehe

00:37 <Tank_Master> nice

00:38 <CoderForLife> it's relentless =)

00:38 <zombie67> even if it is more contagious.   It is FAR less lethal.

00:39 <CoderForLife> well, time to go "weigh in" and soak the parts of the body the massage cushion doesn't address

00:39 <CoderForLife> gn all

00:40 <zombie67> gn

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06:18 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

06:18 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 58.1F / 14.5C | Humidity: 84% | Pressure: 30.01in / 1016.1hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. High in the upper 70s. Southeast wind 5 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening then becoming mostly cloudy. A 50 percent chance of thunderstorms after midnight. Low in the lower 60s. Southeast wind 5 (1 more message)

06:18 <wdsmia> &more

06:18 <Romulus> wdsmia: to 10 mph.; Tuesday - Mostly cloudy with a 50 percent chance of thunderstorms. High in the upper 70s. Southwest wind near 5 mph.;

06:29 <hawmps> 'mornin

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06:34 <randomb3251> is it just me or is rosetta not sending out work-units?

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06:39 <redarrow> &whatis platform_list

06:39 <Romulus> redarrow: "platform_list" could be http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php

06:41 <randomb3251> Romulus: are you daft?

06:41 <Romulus> randomb3251: I dunno.

06:41 <randomb3251> good

06:41 <randomb3251> where can i change the web-browser attached to boinc?

06:42 <redarrow> great, I want to know that, too ;)

06:43 <hawmps> the browser boinc uses is set by your system default..

06:45 <randomb3251> ok so then i have to reinstall boinc?

06:45 <randomb3251> because its expecting firefox  -- but i no longer have this (switched to seamonkey)

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06:48 <randomb3251> wtf why won't this shit give me work units! it was working last night!

06:48 <wdsmia> asks randomb3251 to please watch his or her language Thanks, your friendly channel op.

06:48 <randomb3251> wdsmia: sorry toots, i only listen to romulous when he's in his anti-daft conformation

06:50 <randomb3251> i think its because i have only 800mb free space, and i've increased the work-unit ammount from 1day to 7 days, and for 1 day it would (before) take up 180mb

06:52 <randomb3251> wdsmia: am i turning you on with my manly foul mouth of power and sexification?

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07:13 <redarrow> hawmps: this is not true for me (gentoo). My System default ist FireFox (works great with e.g. Thunderbird) but not with boinc... boinc is starting Opera I used before

07:16 <hawmps> using KDE?

07:16 <redarrow> using gnome-light

07:17 <hawmps> hmm.. might be two different instances of %browser% default

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07:18 <redarrow> where can I finde the KDE %browser% file?

07:18 <hawmps> or 'filetype' to open like url vs mime type of aspx

07:19 <randomb3251> im using gentoo with openbox

07:19 <hawmps> I don't recall if boinc opens by url or mime type

07:20 <randomb3251> /usr/bin/xdg-open: line 370: firefox: command not found

07:20 <randomb3251> xdg-open: no method available for opening 'http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/results.php?userid=321871'

07:20 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/la6drc> (at boinc.bakerlab.org)

07:22 <hawmps> 'xdg' ??!!??

07:23 <hawmps> must be a rosetta only thing

07:23 <randomb3251> uh-oh spagetti-o's !

07:32 <redarrow> hmm, the FAQ gives this: http://boincfaq.mundayweb.com/index.php?view=236&language=1

07:32 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/n2y2n6> (at boincfaq.mundayweb.com)

07:32 <redarrow> but it's not working

07:36 <randomb3251> redarrow: what's the problem?

07:38 <redarrow> boinc starts Opera, but my default browser is FireFox now

07:39 <randomb3251> oh

07:39 <randomb3251> for me its, boinc tries to start firefox, but i have seamonkey

07:40 <redarrow> for me it seems to be a kde--gnome problem for the default browsers

07:40 <randomb3251> are you on the rosetta project?

07:40 <randomb3251> do you get xdg errors from boinc_gui ?

07:42 <redarrow> no, I'm just crunching for climateprediction.net

07:43 <randomb3251> so no xdg errors?

07:43 <redarrow> and I have Opera installed ... so there are no errors

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07:45 <J-23> hi!

07:47 <redarrow> hi

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07:50 <randomb3251> i'm tring to grep for strings like "browser" and "xdg" in /var/lib/boinc but to no result

07:50 <randomb3251> how does boinc call the browser?

07:51 <randomb3251> wdsmia: wdsmia you are the fiesty one, i've been on my toes for 20 minutes

07:54 <KathrynM> http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2607/3716165672_459a5d45fa_o.jpg

07:54 <KathrynM> kinda neat

07:55 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/nu92eb> (at farm3.static.flickr.com)

07:55 <hawmps> seriously looking for trouble with that one...

07:55 <KathrynM> http://chrisinsouthkorea.blogspot.com/2009/07/destination-coex-aquarium.html

07:55 <KathrynM> from this blog entry

07:55 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/nuehw5> (at chrisinsouthkorea.blogspot.com)

07:56 <KathrynM> I think I'll go when I'm in Seoul next week.

08:14 <randomb3251> redarrow: let me know if you figure something out

08:24 <randomb3251> who here is  running rosetta@home - are you getting workunits from the server?

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08:28 <randomb3251> database server reports "Ready to send : 7 |  In progress: 637560" , this doesn't look right does it?

08:29 <hawmps> sounds like LHC

08:30 <randomb3251> its rosetta

08:30 <randomb3251> what do you mean it sounds like LHC?

08:30 <randomb3251> they are usually short on workunits

08:30 <randomb3251> ?

08:49 <randomb3251> how do i change the resource allocation for projects again?

08:56 <hawmps> on the various project web pages..

08:58 <randomb3251> how to get there?

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09:06 <redarrow> randomb3251: for you probably find the main page of your projects and search where you can login to change your account settings...

09:13 <redarrow> randomb3251: try this: http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/login_form.php

09:13 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/nm632y> (at boinc.bakerlab.org)

09:18 <randomb3251> redarrow: oh i see - but right now boinc is reporting 50/50 split, but on the spinehenge website it says cpu share is @ 100&

09:18 <randomb3251> 100%

09:20 <randomb3251> redarrow: can you try to run rosetta and tell me if its giving you workunits?

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09:30 <redarrow> Mo 20 Jul 2009 15:23:54 CEST||Account manager error: file not found

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11:04 <jackygrahamez> hi

11:05 <jackygrahamez> question, are there any projects out there running java?

11:09 <hawmps> Any news on a fixed cuda linux driver yet > 1.1 that is?

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11:15 <clusty> last time i tried installing CUDA driver for ubuntu I made totally FUBAR out of it

11:15 <zombie67> wow.  paul compared DA to Stalin and Hitler

11:15 <clusty> who is DA?

11:15 <Romulus> Rumor has it DA is a pain, clusty

11:17 <zombie67> David Anderson.  The creator/developer of BOINC

11:18 <jackygrahamez> man I guess Stalin and Hitler are feeling sad

11:19 <MTughan> *Doing a bit of bot maintanence*

11:19 <MTughan> forget DA

11:19 <Romulus> Gotcha, MTughan.

11:19 <MTughan> DA is David Anderson

11:19 <hawmps> I wonder if 180.60 is really broken...

11:19 <MTughan> DA?

11:19 <Romulus> It has been said that DA is David Anderson, MTughan

11:20 <MTughan> Done.

11:21 <jackygrahamez> I would really like to see the ideal grid computing middleware that Paul Buck can build

11:23 <desti> whats wrong with 180.60?

11:24 <clusty> why?

11:24 <clusty> he seemed like a nice guy

11:24 <clusty> the DA fella i mean

11:24 <jackygrahamez> I think he is a nice fella, just a lot of whinny people

11:25 <jackygrahamez> Carl's responses to Paul were right on

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11:37 <yoyo[RKN]> is the problem with long wu names known?

11:39 <yoyo[RKN]> if path + wuname on xp exceed some length (IMO 256) boinc does not download this wu, shows an error box and waits for further downloads until somebody clicked the button on the error box

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12:09 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx txl

12:09 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 70°F / 21°C | Humidity: 56% | Pressure: 29.92in / 1013hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 20mph / 32km/h | Updated: 5:50 PM CEST; Chance of a Thunderstorm. High:66 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:55 F.; Chance of Rain. High:75 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:66 F.; Chance of Rain. High:80 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:66 F.;

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12:14 <vjacob> anyone here on Irix?

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12:39 <yoyo[RKN]> &math 10.107 / 168

12:39 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: 0.0601607142857

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13:10 <jackygrahamez> hey guys, I hear Milkyway is supporting ATI? Do other BOINC projects use ATI?

13:17 <MTughan> Yes, MW has an unofficial ATI application. No, no other projects have ATI applications at this time.

13:18 <MTughan> AI had announced they were working on one, but they shut down a couple weeks ago.

13:18 <jackygrahamez> :-(

13:22 <DerMeister> Milkyway has quite short deadlines. Not a pleasure to crunch for this project

13:22 <hawmps> youz needz da l33t computerz.

13:22 <DerMeister> And they *reject* any WU that's at least one second late... I don't know why but this is just dumb...

13:22 <MTughan> The ATI app works well for that, because it can finish the tasks within 1.5 minutes on my 4870.

13:22 <MTughan> DerMeister: BOINC does that on any project.

13:23 <DerMeister> MTughan: No it doesn't, unless this was changed in the past months

13:24 <MTughan> Oh, that's how I thought it worked.

13:24 <DerMeister> usually another result is created and sent out for the WU

13:24 <MTughan> Oh, I'm mixing WU and task... They kill off the whole WU if the task is late?

13:24 <DerMeister> And you can report results that are past the deadline as long as the WU isn't assimilated yet (which it won't be just a second after your result is late)

13:25 <DerMeister> No, not the WU, just the task that is late

13:25 <DerMeister> And they create a new one because one task is missing now

13:25 <MTughan> I didn't think BOINC gave credit for late tasks anyway?

13:25 <DerMeister> It does (or at least did)

13:26 <DerMeister> As long as the WU isn't assimilated. It it is then there is no chance of getting credit any more

13:26 <DerMeister> -It +If

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14:19 <hawmps> seti uploader broken again..

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14:30 <hawmps> http://www.tomshardware.com/gallery/asus_p6t7_1,0101-210014-0----jpg-.html

14:30 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/lxlsc7> (at www.tomshardware.com)

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14:45 <Romulus> New news from boinc: BOINC news July 20, 2009

14:52 <hawmps> that mb with a pair of tesla 1070's could be a one-box boinc farm in the extreme

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16:09 <vjacob> anyone here on Irix?

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16:13 <xcamel> not that I know of..

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17:26 <wdsmia> re-hi

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18:18 <xcamel> re-re-hi

18:47 <Nickuwo> projects list is like a soap opera

18:47 <Nickuwo> it's great

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19:26 <xcamel> lol

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19:33 <xcamel> &wx 12010

19:33 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 68.1F / 20.1C | Humidity: 83% | Pressure: 30.13in / 1020.2hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy this evening...then becoming mostly cloudy. Lows in the upper 50s. East winds around 5 mph.; Tuesday - Mostly cloudy with a chance of rain. Highs in the mid 70s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph. (1 more message)

19:33 <xcamel> &more

19:33 <Romulus> xcamel: Chance of rain 40 percent.; Tuesday Night - Mostly cloudy. A chance of rain in the evening. Lows in the upper 50s. Northeast winds around 5 mph...becoming southeast around 5 mph after midnight. Chance of rain 40 percent.;

19:33 <Tank_Master> &wx 97123

19:33 <Tank_Master> &more

19:33 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more.  To do so, call this command with that person's nick.

19:33 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 85.6F / 29.8C | Humidity: 33% | Pressure: 29.91in / 1012.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Clear. Lows 55 to 60. West wind 5 to 10 mph.; Tuesday - Sunny. Highs 85 to 90. Light wind.; Tuesday Night - Mostly clear. Lows 55 to 60. Northwest wind 5 to 15 mph...becoming light wind after midnight.; Special (1 more message)

19:33 <Tank_Master> &more

19:33 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Weather Statement for Washington County in effect until 11:15 PM PDT on July 20, 2009;

19:33 <xcamel> yuck, again.

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21:09 <zombie67> I have a question about BOINC and linux

21:09 <zombie67> For the first time, I used the package manager to install BOINC.  It's running fine

21:10 <zombie67> I want to add BOINC to the startup applications

21:10 <PovAddict> what distro?

21:10 <Romulus> what distro is this, PovAddict

21:10 <zombie67> where is it located when installed?

21:10 <zombie67> ubuntu

21:10 <zombie67> 9.04

21:10 <PovAddict> what do you want to do, start the daemon on boot, or start the manager on login?

21:10 <zombie67> start the manager

21:11 <PovAddict> ok

21:11 <PovAddict> do you already know how to add a "startup app"?

21:11 <zombie67> system -> prefs -> start up apps

21:12 <zombie67> but I need to tell it where the app is

21:13 <PovAddict> /usr/bin/boincmgr?

21:13 <PovAddict> note you have to use /var/lib/boinc-client as the data directory or the manager won't be able to connect to the daemon

21:13 <PovAddict> I mean

21:13 <PovAddict> working directory

21:13 <MTughan> Starting up my 9.04 VM.

21:14 <zombie67> it's running just fine

21:14 <PovAddict> hmm it doesn't let you set a working directory for the auto-started app, does it? :/

21:15 <zombie67> I will give it a shot.

21:15 <MTughan> /usr/bin/boincmgr

21:16 <MTughan> And it doesn't let you define a working directory, but you can use "cd /var/lib/boinc-client && /usr/bin/boincmgr" to achieve the same effect, I would think.

21:17 <zombie67> what now?

21:17 <PovAddict> relogin to test?

21:18 <zombie67> well, crap, that killed my vnc.

21:18 <zombie67> should have rebooted

21:18 <zombie67> brb'

21:19 <MTughan> This is why we need a good GUI that can control multiple clients at once...

21:20 <PovAddict> ok, that's *it*

21:20 <zombie67> boincmgr starts, but it just sits there "connecting to localhost"

21:20 <zombie67> never connects

21:20 <PovAddict> zombie67: told ya :)

21:20 <zombie67> now what?

21:20 <Romulus> Rumor has it now what is I doing before having to go for biology, zombie67

21:20 <PovAddict> try opening a terminal and typing 'boincmgr'; the same will happen

21:20 <MTughan> Maybe look at my message above?

21:20 <zombie67> crap

21:20 <PovAddict> "cd /var/lib/boinc-client; boincmgr" and it will work...

21:21 <zombie67> starting it from the pull-down menu doesn't work either

21:21 <PovAddict> really? I thought the menu item configured the working directory The Right Way

21:21 <MTughan> I'll check. That's a little surprising to me too.

21:21 <zombie67> nope, not working

21:21 <MTughan> Nope, it just starts the manager directly.

21:22 <MTughan> Command: /usr/bin/boincmgr

21:22 <PovAddict> lame

21:22 <zombie67> it worked the first time I started it

21:23 <PovAddict> MTughan: what's the text field called for the working dir in the menu item properties?

21:23 <PovAddict> (I don't have gnome)

21:23 <MTughan> There is none.

21:23 <PovAddict> o_O

21:23 <MTughan> Type, Name, Command, Comment.

21:23 <PovAddict> so the lameness is not the boinc package, but gnome menu...

21:23 <zombie67> guess what?

21:23 <Romulus> hmm... guess what is our main problem installing Rational Team Concert, zombie67

21:24 <MTughan> Yes, but it can still be worked around.

21:24 <zombie67> after a reboot, it started and is running just fine

21:24 <zombie67> all by itself

21:25 <zombie67> Not sure why that works, but logging out/in doesn't

21:25 <zombie67> whatever the case, it is the behavior I wanted.

21:25 <zombie67> now I just have to remember that I have to reboot anytime I quit BOINC

21:25 <MTughan> Unless... Maybe /usr/bin/boincmgr is a script.

21:26 <zombie67> when will the package manager get a more recent version?

21:26 <MTughan> Nope, it's a Linux executable.

21:26 <MTughan> zombie67: When whoever maintains the package does it.

21:26 <zombie67> is that a DA thing?  Or a ubuntu thing?

21:26 <PovAddict> zombie67: the Fedora maintainer has been nagging BOINC developers about half a dozen bugs for almost a year

21:26 <MTughan> Pov might have an idea who that is. I don't.

21:26 <PovAddict> "will you fix this crap ALREADY so I can build a 6.6 package?"

21:27 <zombie67> hah

21:27 <PovAddict> he's been literally a year having to do that

21:27 <zombie67> how does one create an alias with bash?

21:28 <PovAddict> recommended that you don't; use a bash function instead:

21:28 <zombie67> I want to be able to type "bm", and it will do "cd /var/lib/boinc-client; boincmgr"

21:28 <zombie67> i only know cshrc

21:29 <PovAddict> bm() { ( cd /var/lib/boinc-client && boincmgr ) }

21:29 <PovAddict> the inner ()s around the whole command are so that the directory change doesn't affect the rest of your shell

21:29 <zombie67> do I put that in a .bashrc file or something?

21:30 <PovAddict> you can, yeah

21:30 <zombie67> let me rephrase

21:30 <PovAddict> add it at the end of your .bashrc

21:30 <zombie67> what did you intend for me to do with that like of text?

21:30 <PovAddict> paste it in bash and it will work (for the current session)

21:30 <PovAddict> or put it in .bashrc for something more permanent

21:31 <zombie67> I want this to work any time

21:31 <PovAddict> then put the line at the end of your .bashrc

21:35 <zombie67> what the?!

21:35 <zombie67> why is the cc_config.xml a link to /etc/boinc-client/cc_config.xml  ?

21:36 <PovAddict> because configuration files go in /etc

21:37 <zombie67> this is a mess

21:37 <zombie67> no wonder so many people have problems with BOINC and linux

21:38 <MTughan> BOINC's data dirs are a mess.

21:39 <zombie67> wonderful

21:39 <zombie67> I don't have permissions to edit it

21:39 <MTughan> But they've attempted to clean it up a bit on Linux.

21:40 <zombie67> how do I tell text editor to ask me for my root password so that I can save my changes?

21:40 <MTughan> If it doesn't when saving, it can't.

21:40 <MTughan> Try "gksudo gedit"

21:41 <zombie67> sometimes I wonder why i still try using anything except vi

21:42 <MTughan> I have a free text editor on Mac that asks me for my password if I'm editing a file saved by root. I don't know why that kind of functionality isn't in a normal text editor.

21:42 <MTughan> on Linux*

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21:48 <zombie67> I don't think it is seeing my cc_config

21:48 <zombie67> nevermind

21:48 <zombie67> yes it is

21:59 <KathrynM> &wx ulsan

21:59 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 79°F / 26°C | Humidity: 89% | Pressure: 29.50in / 999hPa | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h | Updated: 10:00 AM KST; Thunderstorm. High:84 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:68 F.; Chance of Rain. High:84 F.; Clear. Low:60 F.; Clear. High:84 F.; Clear. Low:60 F.;

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22:22 <randomb3351> who here is running rosetta?

22:22 <randomb3351> are you getting work units from the server ? - i haven't been given any since yesterday

22:23 <PovAddict> http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/rah_status.php they are quite out of work

22:23 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5m5nl9> (at boinc.bakerlab.org)

22:24 <PovAddict> that page says there are 15, but they may be gone by now (page is not updated in real time)

22:24 <randomb3351> how about stonehenge? in my settings i've requested 10 days of work but i only get 7 hours worth of work-units

22:25 <PovAddict> you can't "request 10 days of work"

22:25 <randomb3351> sure you can

22:25 <PovAddict> you mean the "connect every X days" setting?

22:25 <randomb3351> there's another thing under that

22:25 <PovAddict> extra days?

22:26 <PovAddict> the project may have a limit to how much it gives you at a time

22:26 <randomb3351> "maintain enough work for an additional: _______"

22:27 <randomb3351> Romulus: quit being so daft

22:27 <Romulus> randomb3351: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.

22:27 <MTughan> randomb3351: Romulus is a bot.

22:27 <PovAddict> he knows, and he plays with it just like... who was it? vomitory?

22:27 <MTughan> Yes, vomitory.

22:28 <randomb3351> yes i remember that guy lol

22:28 <randomb3351> did you guys ban him?

22:28 <MTughan> He was banned for a bit. Don't know that he still is.

22:28 <MTughan> He's not.

22:29 <randomb3351> i've never seen rosetta run out of work units

22:30 <PovAddict> randomb3351: neither me

22:30 <PovAddict> check the forums?

22:30 <randomb3351> something must be broken if its generating 15 work units every 15 minutes

22:30 <MTughan> This is the thread you're looking for: http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=4133

22:30 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/neujjg> (at boinc.bakerlab.org)

22:32 <randomb3351> ah thank you!

22:32 <zombie67> to make sure you maximize the use of any tasks that you do get, set the run time to 24 hours.

22:34 <PovAddict> that thread is *old*

22:35 <PovAddict> why did they bump it instead of making a new one :/

22:36 <randomb3351> haha the feeder is getting ddos'ed with all the drones requesting work

22:36 <randomb3351> what does "in progess" mean?

22:37 <PovAddict> in the server status page?

22:37 <randomb3351> WUs already computed and set to rosetta to be classified? or those that have already been sent out and awaitin ga return

22:37 <randomb3351> yes

22:37 <PovAddict> that's the total of workunits that people have in their computers and didn't return back yet

22:37 <randomb3351> wow that's ridiculous

22:37 <randomb3351> seeing as the project only gets about 100k users

22:38 <PovAddict> and? 100k users with 6 tasks each :P

22:38 <randomb3351> i only get 2 WU's at a time

22:38 <PovAddict> in rosetta?

22:38 <randomb3351> yes

22:38 <PovAddict> sure, because there's no work now!

22:39 <PovAddict> probably there's many people with ridiculous settings... like "maintain enough work for an additional: 10 days"

22:39 <PovAddict> <.<

22:39 <randomb3351> on average (i.e when there was work )

22:39 <randomb3351> PovAddict: are you daft?

22:39 <PovAddict> did you replace your brains with Romulus?

22:40 <MTughan> I keep an average of 0.5 days of work from WCG.

22:40 <randomb3351> MTughan: what's so special about world community grid?

22:40 <randomb3351> http://rssblogster.com/popular_item_display.php?item_id=1909124

22:40 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/nbt25j> (at rssblogster.com)

22:40 <MTughan> Fine see that statement without WCG then.

22:40 <MTughan> I keep an average of 0.5 days of work.

22:41 <MTughan> Doesn't matter what project.

22:41 <MTughan> But, I run WCG personally because I believe that it can do good.

22:41 <randomb3351> why?

22:41 <randomb3351> which project in particular?

22:42 <MTughan> I'm running two right now: Clean energy, and Muscular Dystrophy.

22:42 <randomb3351> muscular distrophy is pretty cool

22:42 <randomb3351> i didn't like the screensaver though

22:42 <randomb3351> plus i don't believe in global warming

22:43 <MTughan> I don't run any of the graphics.

22:43 <MTughan> Takes too much CPU time away from the science.

22:47 <randomb3351> MTughan: doesn't graphics get rendered on the graphics card?

22:48 <PovAddict> that doesn't mean it uses 0% CPU

22:48 <randomb3351> my ATI card is just rotting away, i wish it was nvidia so i could run cuda on it - of if there was some driver for it

22:48 <MTughan> randomb3351: What card?

22:48 <randomb3351> PovAddict: it uses less that 1%

22:48 <randomb3351> radeon 3650 mobility

22:48 <PovAddict> try it and see

22:48 <MTughan> And I've observed that BOINC graphics apps can take up to 50% of a core.

22:48 <PovAddict> depends on the project

22:49 <MTughan> randomb3351: Also, unless your laptop has exceptional cooling, I wouldn't recommend running any computation on the GPU.

22:49 <PovAddict> especially on Linux where it seems some project apps are compiled in a way that makes them use software rendering for gfx!

22:54 <randomb3351> PovAddict: what do you mean try it? there are no drivers

22:54 <PovAddict> you can't use 3D apps?

22:54 <randomb3351> MTughan: well i leave it upside down, and it got to 90 celcius when i was running rosetta while playing savage2

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22:55 <PovAddict> I thought you meant there are no drivers for the computing-on-GPU stuff

22:55 <MTughan> randomb3351: CPU or GPU?

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23:22 <randomb3351> not for radeon

23:35 <wdsmia> http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/090720-jupiter-new-impact.html

23:35 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/ox79yg> (at www.space.com)

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