IRC logs of #boinc for Thursday, 2009-07-23

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00:34 <lolcow> something in boinc broke, all roseta-mini 1.82 are failing!

00:34 <lolcow> but roseta-beta 5.98 works

00:35 <MTughan> lolcow: How about reporting it on the Rosetta forums then?

00:35 <PovAddict> then something in rosetta broke

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00:35 <lolcow> i reset rosetta and it doesn't work

00:35 <PovAddict> not in boinc

00:35 <lolcow> and its working for all the other users

00:35 <lolcow> what is not in boinc?

00:35 <PovAddict> do you know what reset does?

00:36 <lolcow> removes are work units?

00:36 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

00:36 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 67.0F / 19.4C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.77in / 1008.0hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 1.1mph / 1.8km/h ; Overnight - Cloudy with a 30 percent chance of showers. Patchy fog late. Lows in the lower 60s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Thursday - Mostly cloudy with a slight chance of showers and thunderstorms in the (1 more message)

00:36 <CoderForLife> &more

00:36 <Romulus> CoderForLife: morning...then partly sunny with a chance of showers with isolated thunderstorms in the afternoon. Highs in the upper 70s. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Thursday Night - Partly cloudy. A slight chance of showers with isolated thunderstorms in the evening. Lows around 60. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent.;

00:38 <lolcow> PovAddict: yes that correct?

01:02 <kathryn_> I turn my back for 10 seconds and Ivory is up on the table drinking my milk with a very happy look on her face.

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01:03 <CoderForLife> She can has milk

01:03 <lolcow> this is so strange - the last thing i changed was boinc settings for adding more days of workunts

01:03 <KathrynM> yup

01:03 <KathrynM> Gidgette is up to 755 grams

01:05 <PovAddict> &wx eze

01:06 <CoderForLife> a weighty subject

01:06 <Romulus> PovAddict: Temperature: 36°F / 2°C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 30.09in / 1019hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 16mph / 26km/h | Updated: 1:00 AM ART; Chance of Rain. High:46 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:35 F.; Clear. High:51 F.; Clear. Low:33 F.; Clear. High:55 F.; Clear. Low:37 F.;

01:06 <PovAddict> brr

01:06 <CoderForLife> brr?

01:06 <CoderForLife> a balmy winter day

01:06 <PovAddict> 2C...

01:07 <CoderForLife> warm

01:07 * PovAddict goes deep under bed sheets

01:07 <lolcow> noooooooooooo

01:07 <lolcow> fix my boinc

01:07 <MTughan> lolcow: It's something that changed in Rosetta. You should go to their forums instead.

01:07 <PovAddict> oh quit yer bitchin

01:08 <CoderForLife> I'm going back to bed

01:08 <CoderForLife> gn all

01:08 <MTughan> That's another way to put it...

01:08 <lolcow> MTughan: 1.82 was working yesterday

01:08 <PovAddict> or pay me for support

01:08 <lolcow> and there hasn't been a patch

01:08 <MTughan> lolcow: So that gives you a timeframe for the change.

01:08 <lolcow> the problem is i need to remove some boinc tmp files

01:08 <PovAddict> I prefer winter anyway

01:09 <MTughan> Why?

01:09 <lolcow> okay i got it

01:09 <lolcow> had to remove everything , stop boinc, start boinc, re-attach

01:10 <lolcow> rosetta:1, boinc:0

01:10 <PovAddict> when it's cold, you put on more clothes, and/or get in bed, and/or follow the cats and sit close to the heating

01:10 <KathrynM> cats for sure

01:10 <PovAddict> when it's hot, you have nowhere to hide, and there is a limit to how much clothes you can get off

01:11 <PovAddict> except the swimming pool

01:11 <KathrynM> ugh laundry calls.  washing machine beeping

01:11 <MTughan> Yep.

01:11 <KathrynM> aircon saves my life in the summer

01:11 <PovAddict> KathrynM: cats sure know how to keep warm... an example to follow

01:11 <MTughan> They snuggle up with other warm things. :)

01:12 <lolcow> PovAddict: whenever i get in bed  the only thing i wear is a rubber

01:12 <KathrynM> thanks for sharing

01:12 <MTughan> Fridges, humans, blankets, that sort of thing.

01:12 <PovAddict> I have dual mode aircon... currently in 'heat' mode

01:12 <KathrynM> our heating is in the floor.

01:12 <KathrynM> nice in the winter for tosty warm toes

01:12 <PovAddict> oh that must be nice

01:13 <KathrynM> I don't sleep with it on.  I get up around 6 and turn it on.  Then it's perfect for when I really get up.

01:13 <MTughan> KathrynM: You could get a timer for it.

01:13 <PovAddict> someone in a boinc forum mentioned a plan for heavy CPU overclocking that involved female feet for cooling

01:14 <KathrynM> wouldn't work for me.  my feet are always hot

01:14 <KathrynM> MTughan, I doubt there's anything like a timer for it.  as you have to push a button to turn it on.

01:14 <PovAddict> I'd love to send my computer heat onto my frozen feet

01:15 <PovAddict> I saw a USB feet warmer once

01:17 <PovAddict>

01:17 <Romulus> <> (at

01:26 <lolcow> PovAddict: you're not gonna get laid over the internet dude, go to bed

01:27 <PovAddict> who said I'm tying to get laid over the internet?

01:28 <lolcow> you

01:28 <PovAddict> quote?

01:28 <lolcow> what is this the 20's where everything is taken literally?

01:28 <lolcow> I read between the ascii characters

01:29 <lolcow> into the 4th dimension of your mind

01:29 <lolcow> if you knew I was wrong then you wouldn't be replying, but now you will cease to do so

01:29 <PovAddict> I'm not trying to get laid over the internet

01:30 <lolcow> then why are you debating this with me?

01:30 <PovAddict> or over the real world either

01:30 <PovAddict> because you said I am

01:30 <lolcow> ... and why are you telling me this?

01:31 <lolcow> PovAddict: that's quite hypocritical of you - you can easily ignore my boinc questions, yet you choose not to ignore this scenario

01:31 <lolcow> s/can/choose to/

01:33 <KathrynM> *sigh*  Dad coming tomorrow.  I guess I should like get serious about cleaning the apartment

01:33 <KathrynM> PovAddict, I'll be offline from Friday - Wednesday.  Starting in Busan then going to Seoul.

01:33 <MTughan> <lolcow> noooooooooooo

01:33 <MTughan> <lolcow> fix my boinc

01:33 * KathrynM needs a fairy godmother

01:33 <MTughan> You call that allowing him to ignore you?

01:34 <MTughan> Also, the feet warmer thing was in response to KathrynM, not you.

01:34 <lolcow> MTughan: that was after he ignored me, get over it

01:34 <MTughan> Wilco.

01:34 <PovAddict> taking your dad on a tour?

01:34 <lolcow> i'm not asking you to, but is it even POSSIBLE for you to wrap your literal female mind over this paradox?

01:34 <lolcow> it would be really easy for me to copy and paste the part where you said you would go to bed, but this is silly and childish

01:35 <KathrynM> yup

01:35 <KathrynM> going to go to the Kimchi museum in Seoul for sure

01:35 <KathrynM>

01:35 <Romulus> Title: Kimchi Museum | Seoul City | South Korea (at

01:35 <KathrynM> just because, ya know, it's Korea

01:37 <PovAddict> what about the cats?

01:38 <KathrynM> going to board them at the vets

01:38 <PovAddict> they'll love it

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02:34 <XioNYC> &wx LGA

02:34 <Romulus> XioNYC: Temperature: 73F / 23C | Humidity: 84% | Pressure: 30.09in / 1019hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Lows in the upper 60s. South winds 5 to 10 mph.; Thursday - Partly sunny with a chance of rain in the morning...then mostly cloudy with rain likely in the afternoon. Highs in the upper 70s. East winds 5 to 10 (1 more message)

02:34 <XioNYC> &more

02:34 <Romulus> XioNYC: mph. Chance of rain 60 percent.; Thursday Night - Rain with isolated thunderstorms. Patchy fog. Rain may be heavy at times. Lows in the mid 60s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 80 percent.; Areal Flood Watch for Queens County in effect until 2:00 PM EDT on July 24, 2009;

02:35 * XioNYC melts

02:36 <MTughan> You should see Pov's.\

02:36 <MTughan> &wx EZE

02:36 <Romulus> MTughan: Temperature: 35°F / 1°C | Humidity: 73% | Pressure: 30.12in / 1020hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 15mph / 24km/h | Updated: 3:00 AM ART; Chance of Rain. High:46 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:35 F.; Clear. High:51 F.; Clear. Low:33 F.; Clear. High:55 F.; Clear. Low:37 F.;

02:38 <XioNYC> I'll gladly exchange bagels w/ cream cheese and lox on the B'klyn Br. for a sangüich de milanesa c/ medialuna at the Obelisco

02:39 <XioNYC> (and swine flu for West Nile virus)

02:44 <XioNYC> .o0( Out of curiosity... )

02:44 <XioNYC> &wx AEP

02:44 <Romulus> XioNYC: Temperature: 38°F / 3°C | Humidity: 66% | Pressure: 30.12in / 1020hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 15mph / 24km/h | Updated: 3:00 AM ART; Clear. High:50 F.; Clear. Low:35 F.; Clear. High:55 F.; Clear. Low:41 F.; Scattered Clouds. High:57 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:42 F.;

02:46 <XioNYC> .o0( Thought so. )

02:46 <XioNYC> Holler if you need me - I'll be in the background, multitasking in real-time :-)

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06:26 <wdsmia_> &wx 50319

06:26 <Romulus> wdsmia_: Temperature: 62.5F / 16.9C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 29.93in / 1013.4hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. High in the mid 80s. North wind near 5 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Low in the lower 60s. West wind near 5 mph shifting to the south around 5 mph after midnight.; Friday - Partly sunny. A 30 percent (1 more message)

06:26 <wdsmia_> &more

06:26 <Romulus> wdsmia_: chance of thunderstorms in the late morning and afternoon. High in the upper 80s. South wind 5 to 15 mph.;

06:29 <hawmps> 'lo

06:29 <wdsmia_> morn

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07:38 <KathrynM> new post up in my photog

07:38 <Romulus> <> (at

07:44 <hawmps> photo classes?

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08:22 <hawmps> "Taco Bell ad star Gidget the Chihuahua dies at 15"

08:23 <XioNYC> Dead at 15"?  That's a mighty large chiuaua

08:23 <XioNYC> Then again, I have no respect for any canine smaller than my boots.

08:24 <XioNYC> Oh.

08:24 <XioNYC> I missed the opening quotemarks.

08:24 <hawmps> she was cute..

08:26 <XioNYC> It was still smaller than my boots.  Plus, chihuauas always seem to have a glandular problem - the way their oversized eyes always seem to be ready to fall out at of their sockets any moment... :-/

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08:27 * XioNYC shrugs shoulders

08:27 <XioNYC> Well... if any more celebs feel like kicking the bucket, please don't hesitate to keep me out of the loop[y].

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09:29 <hawmps> dunno how it compares, but my seti/cuda units run 29-31 minutes.

09:52 <KathrynM>

09:52 <Romulus> Title: cooking with monkey! (at

09:52 <KathrynM> seriously, someone had waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to much time on their hands

10:13 <desti> have you seen the eclipse?

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10:51 <hawmps> &wx 12020

10:51 <Romulus> hawmps: Temperature: 74.4F / 23.6C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.81in / 1009.4hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers and thunderstorms. Highs in the upper 70s. Northeast winds around 5 mph...becoming southeast this afternoon. Chance of rain 50 percent.; Tonight - Showers likely with a chance of (1 more message)

10:51 <hawmps> &more

10:51 <Romulus> hawmps: thunderstorms. Lows in the lower 60s. South winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 60 percent.; Friday - Mostly cloudy. Showers and thunderstorms likely...mainly in the afternoon. Highs in the mid 70s. East winds around 5 mph in the morning...becoming light and variable. Chance of rain 60 percent.;

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11:11 <KathrynM> talk about a helpful error message.....

11:11 <KathrynM> Errors!!!

11:11 <KathrynM> Error Level: 3

11:11 <KathrynM> Invalid State

11:19 <Tank_Master> better than "error codre 0x5798345" "no information on this error"

11:48 <hawmps> "Your level of FAIL is disturbing"

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12:42 <MTughan> KathrynM: I like the new layout.

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12:53 <hawmps> 'lo Mike

12:54 <MTughan> Oh, nevermind... I didn't realize I was looking at a different part of your site. :P

12:54 <MTughan> So I should say I like the layout of the photo blog.

12:54 <MTughan> 'lo Jay

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13:47 <mweltin> I failed my drivers test today!!!! wtf!

13:54 <desti> played to much carmageddon?

13:56 <mweltin> not enough apparently

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14:05 <hawmps> too much deathrace...

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14:30 <hawmps> Major winter storm hits Argentina - so much for global warming...

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14:32 <PovAddict> yup

14:32 <PovAddict> yesterday

14:32 <zombie67> quick question

14:33 <PovAddict>

14:33 <Romulus> <> (at

14:33 <zombie67> where is the "% of time running boinc" kept?

14:33 <zombie67> I had a machine in the shop for a couple of weeks, and now it can't get work because it thinks it won't return it in time

14:33 <hawmps> geezus.

14:33 <zombie67> so I want to set that back to 100%

14:36 <PovAddict> client_state.xml, near the bottom

14:36 <PovAddict> ah no, near the top, after <host_info>

14:36 <PovAddict> in <time_stats>

14:37 <zombie67> I tried changing that, but BOINC keeps changing it back

14:38 <PovAddict> ah hmm

14:39 <PovAddict> set <last_update> to:

14:39 <PovAddict> &time %s

14:39 <Romulus> PovAddict: 1248374387

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14:40 <zombie67> I changed the time in both state and state prev

14:41 <zombie67> now, all the projects say "project initialization"

14:41 <zombie67> and all the tasks are gone

14:41 <hawmps> oopsie..

14:42 <PovAddict> congratulations?

14:42 <PovAddict> if the client fails to load client_state (eg. because  you corrupted it in a bad edit :P), it loads the prev one instead

14:43 <PovAddict> if you f* up the state_prev file too, bye data

14:43 <zombie67> no.  didn't corrupt anything

14:43 <zombie67> I changed 0.23xxxx

14:43 <zombie67> to 1.000000

14:44 <zombie67> that was it

14:44 <PovAddict> and time stats?

14:44 <zombie67> nope

14:44 <PovAddict> sorry I mean <last_update>

14:44 <zombie67> nope

14:44 <zombie67> this happened before I could try that

14:44 <zombie67> in any case, I am getting work again

14:45 <zombie67> stupid BOINC

14:45 <zombie67> my new iMac is fast!

14:45 <PovAddict> well, looking at the code, TIME_STATS::parse() only ever returns an error if there is no </time_stats> tag

14:45 <zombie67> benchmarks 3434/12169

14:45 <hawmps> not bad..

14:46 <PovAddict> if one of the tags inside, like last_update, has invalid data, the client just puts a warning in the log and ignores it

14:46 <zombie67> oh well.  Thanks for the help.  gotta run

14:46 <hawmps> modbook == 2814/10366

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17:14 <DerMeister> RomW: I'd say "Quick updates" isn't an appropriate changelog message - for no change :P

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17:44 <wdsmia> re-hi

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18:37 <xcamel> spork >> [stupid crawlers]

18:56 <PovAddict> Matt is back on SETI

18:58 <xcamel> which matt?

18:58 <PovAddict> Lebofsky

18:58 <PovAddict>

18:58 <Romulus> <> (at

19:03 <xcamel> ah..

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20:23 <jasong> What's the oldest prime in the top-5000?  Does anyone know?

20:51 * KathrynM screams

20:52 <MTughan> Spider?

20:52 <KathrynM> what the heck.  to send a message to this website, you need a password that goes with the reservation (I'm booking hotels).  They never give you the password

20:52 <KathrynM> You have to use the "Lost password" link to get them to send it to you.

20:53 <KathrynM> and there's no way to check to see if the room type you want is available.

20:53 <KathrynM> sorry, I don't want to sleep in the same bed as my father

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21:27 <CoderForLife> gesporkened

21:29 <CoderForLife> looks like DNS in firewall is dying agan

21:49 <jasong> What is up with your firewall?

21:49 <jasong> Sounds like it's less stable than britney spears after a night of binge drinking

21:55 <jasong> Can I vent for second?

21:56 <jasong> People around me seem to think that job loss equates to inflation, when it doesn't

21:56 <jasong> Just because people have less money to spend DOESN'T mean each individual dollar is worth less

21:58 <MTughan> That usually means it's actually worth more.

21:58 <jasong> Emotionally, yeah, is that what you mean?

21:59 <MTughan> Not quite.

21:59 <jasong> I hate Obama, but for people in general

21:59 <Romulus> <> (at

21:59 <MTughan> Say the GDP of a country stays about the same, but there's less money going around. (I know, we're in a recession, but theoretical) That means that each unit of money is worth more overall to fill in the GDP.

22:01 <MTughan> In the end, that's also the basis for inflation.

22:04 <jasong> off-topic:  it's amazing how much joy my brain gets from scraping grime off my keyboard

22:05 <MTughan> :)

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23:06 <efc> &wx 31088

23:06 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 79F / 26C | Humidity: 78% | Pressure: 29.94in / 1014hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a slight chance of showers and thunderstorms in the evening...then a slight chance of showers after midnight. Lows around 70. Light and variable winds. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Friday - Mostly sunny (1 more message)

23:06 <efc> &more

23:06 <Romulus> efc: in the morning then becoming partly sunny with a 20 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Highs in the lower 90s. West winds 5 to 15 mph.; Friday Night - Mostly clear. Lows in the upper 60s. Light and variable winds.;

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23:29 <zombie67> MT?

23:29 <Romulus> It has been said that MT is right, zombie67

23:29 <MTughan> Yes?

23:29 <Romulus> Rumor has it Yes is on multilib...why, MTughan

23:30 <MTughan> forget yes

23:30 <Romulus> Gotcha.

23:30 <MTughan> forget Yes

23:30 <MTughan> Apparently it's not case sensitive...

23:30 <zombie67> you hard my iMac repair saga?

23:30 <MTughan> No, I didn't.

23:30 <zombie67> kept locking up

23:30 <zombie67> forcing hard reboot

23:30 <zombie67> took it in, they claimed it was the HD

23:31 <zombie67> probably got corrupted during one of the reboots

23:31 <zombie67> anyway, they replaced it

23:31 <zombie67> kept happening

23:31 <zombie67> took it back in, they replaced the mobo

23:31 <zombie67> kept happening

23:31 <zombie67> they gave me a brnd new one!

23:32 <PovAddict> easiest way out

23:32 <zombie67> the old onw was the first intel model, 20" white

23:32 <PovAddict> now they have all the time in the world to figure out what part of the b0rked one is the cause

23:32 <zombie67> new one is 2.93ghz, 4gb, smoking fast!

23:32 <MTughan> Nice.

23:32 <PovAddict> wait the new one is *different*?

23:32 <zombie67> oh yeah

23:32 <MTughan> PovAddict: Well, they gave me a new one too. :)

23:32 <PovAddict> and they gave you it, for free?

23:32 <zombie67> old one was no longer made

23:33 <zombie67> yep

23:33 <MTughan> They tend to do that.

23:33 <PovAddict> looks like a good deal

23:33 <zombie67> double the RAM

23:33 <zombie67> newer processor, and way faster

23:33 <zombie67> much better graphics

23:33 <PovAddict> if you have a mac, and they stop making that model, and it's still in warranty... make it break and make it look like it's not your fault xD

23:33 <zombie67> double the HD size

23:33 <zombie67> apple care

23:34 <PovAddict> free upgrade :D

23:34 <MTughan> Well, the CPU fan on this MacBook is going already. I seem to have a tendency to do that.

23:34 <zombie67> costs $300, but you get satisfaction no matter what for three years

23:34 <zombie67> What kind of notebook?

23:34 <MTughan> I said, MacBook.

23:34 <MTughan> Unibody aluminum.

23:34 <zombie67> nice!

23:35 <MTughan> It is, except for the glass screen and the CPU fan.

23:35 <zombie67> I have had my 17" core duo for a couple years now, running BOINC full blast, no problem

23:35 <zombie67> you don't like the shiny screen?

23:35 <MTughan> I hate it.

23:35 <zombie67> it wasn't available when I bought minr

23:35 <zombie67> mine

23:36 <MTughan> And despite their claims of better colour, my 3-year old matte screen on the desktop has much richer colour.

23:36 <zombie67> if there are windows behind you, it can suck

23:36 <MTughan> You can really see the difference in the reds and greens.

23:36 <zombie67> colour...look at you...all european and stuff

23:36 <MTughan> Hey, I like my colours. :)

23:36 <MTughan> Doesn't help that I do a bit of image editing too.

23:36 <zombie67> grey!

23:37 <MTughan> Actually, blue's the best colour to work with on this screen.

23:37 <PovAddict> grey or gray?

23:37 <PovAddict> povray scripting language supports both spellings (same for colour) to avoid trouble :D

23:38 <zombie67> bleu

23:38 <zombie67> blue

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