IRC logs of #boinc for Wednesday, 2009-07-29

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02:35 <MTughan> You know, ChanServ doesn't have to give you op on identify.

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03:04 <CoderForLife> not knowing, and not much caring

03:05 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

03:05 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 68.7F / 20.4C | Humidity: 92% | Pressure: 29.50in / 998.9hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Rain | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Showers likely with a chance of thunderstorms. Lows in the mid 60s. South winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 70 percent.; Wednesday - Showers and thunderstorms likely. Highs in the upper 70s. West winds (1 more message)

03:05 <CoderForLife> &more

03:05 <Romulus> CoderForLife: 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 70 percent.; Wednesday Night - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers and thunderstorms in the evening...then partly cloudy with a slight chance of showers after midnight. Lows in the mid 60s. Southwest winds around 5 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.;

03:05 <efc> moo

03:05 <CoderForLife> moo efc

03:05 <CoderForLife> big day today

03:06 <efc> Xciting

03:06 <CoderForLife> indeed

03:06 <efc> I could use some of that demerol stuff for my day

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06:28 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

06:28 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 56.0F / 13.3C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 29.89in / 1012.1hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Sunny in the morning then becoming partly sunny. High around 80. North wind near 5 mph shifting to the southwest in the afternoon.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening then becoming mostly cloudy. A chance of showers and a (1 more message)

06:29 <wdsmia> &more

06:29 <Romulus> wdsmia: slight chance of thunderstorms overnight. Low in the upper 50s. Southwest wind near 5 mph. Chance of precipitation 50 percent.; Thursday - Partly sunny. A chance of showers and a slight chance of thunderstorms in the morning. High in the lower 70s. Northwest wind 10 to 15 mph. Chance of precipitation 40 percent.;

06:31 <hawmps> spork: 86.104.150.138

06:33 <hawmps> 'mornin

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07:05 <CoderForLife> morning any and all

07:06 * CoderForLife inserts the latest spork

07:06 <CoderForLife> thx hawmps

07:07 * CoderForLife is in no eaty - no drinky mode until after his medical procedure this morning

07:09 <CoderForLife> of course, I'm starving and parched

07:14 <hawmps> &wx 12020

07:14 <Romulus> hawmps: Temperature: 67.6F / 19.8C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.65in / 1003.9hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny with a slight chance of showers and thunderstorms this morning...then mostly cloudy with showers and thunderstorms this afternoon. Some thunderstorms may produce heavy rainfall this afternoon. Highs in the lower (2 more messages)

07:14 <hawmps> &more

07:14 <Romulus> hawmps: 80s. South winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 80 percent.; Tonight - Showers and thunderstorms. Some thunderstorms may produce heavy rainfall. Humid with lows in the upper 60s. South winds around 5 mph. Chance of rain 90 percent.; Thursday - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers and thunderstorms in the morning...then partly sunny in the afternoon. Humid with highs in the mid 80s. West winds (1 more message)

07:14 <hawmps> &more

07:14 <Romulus> hawmps: 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.; Flash Flood Watch for Saratoga County in effect until 6:00 AM EDT on July 30, 2009;

07:14 <hawmps> flash flood watches up..

07:22 <hawmps> good luck on your doctor visit..

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08:09 <hawmps> wow.. an AQUA cuda wu > 90 hours

08:21 <CoderForLife> thx hawmps

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08:55 <PovAddict> ugh, too early for me

08:57 <PovAddict> ugh#2, spam attack in boinc trac tickets

08:58 <PovAddict> big enough that deleting manually is a pain... I'll have to write another spam-deleting scraper

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09:05 <PovAddict> hi z

09:07 <hawmps> 'lo PoV

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09:14 <wdsmia_w> MW is fubar I just lost 2 months of data and 16M points LOL

09:14 <hawmps> huh?

09:16 <wdsmia_w> last contact with any of my boxes 18 May... I dont think so

09:24 <PovAddict> they restored to month-old DB backup?

09:29 <hawmps> mine didn't change...

09:30 <wdsmia_w> http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/hosts_user.php?sort=rpc_time&rev=0&show_all=1&userid=4262

09:30 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/nvty9o> (at milkyway.cs.rpi.edu)

09:33 <hawmps> ok.. that's bad.

09:33 <wdsmia_w> lol

09:34 <hawmps> didn't drop as much as yours though

09:35 <hawmps> 3,070,000 to 2,838,162

09:35 <wdsmia_w> you didnt have a 300K rac

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10:22 <hawmps> 'lo Rom..

10:22 <hawmps> that 'trunk' gives me 6.9.0

11:14 <hawmps> what the hell is this big 'statically linked' warning?

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11:19 <PovAddict> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/w/?title=Project_list&diff=2117&oldid=prev what the hell are these automated idiots doing?

11:19 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/ntj58y> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

11:19 <PovAddict> they don't even leave a link so it's not spam

11:19 <hawmps> looks like it  didn't really matter..

11:20 <hawmps> this should be the 'oh bloody hell' build

11:21 <hawmps> if I get boincmgr out of this I'll be shocked.

11:22 <hawmps> the client built.. that's a good start

11:23 <hawmps> YES!

11:23 <PovAddict> got a mgr?

11:23 <hawmps> indeed I do.

11:26 <hawmps> 6.8.16 er somesuch.

11:27 <hawmps> it did not do the usual startup/client upgrade tests though

11:28 <hawmps> ah.. found the problem.

11:28 <hawmps> now.. about that video driver...

11:29 <hawmps> bbiab

11:30 <hawmps> one bug - with cuda apps running, quitting bm does not kill boinc itself.

11:30 <hawmps> this is ungood.

11:30 <hawmps> bbiab

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11:36 <hawmps> Sorry, Rom.. instant AQUA app death.

11:36 <hawmps> so it didn't work

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11:51 <RomW> crud

11:52 <RomW> I'm going to have to reboot into fedora

11:52 <RomW> bbiab

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12:05 <yoyo[RKN]> &math 16.9 / 203.1 * 100

12:05 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: 8.32102412605

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12:13 <RomW> Okay, i just tested AQUA out and it worked against the new build

12:13 <RomW> NVidia 185.18.29/BOINC 6.9.0/AQUA Cuda on Fedora Core 11 worked

12:16 <RomW> just got your last mail, i'll go check out the 190 drivers

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12:18 <hawmps> the stated boinc version is 6.8.13 after it built, btw..

12:19 <hawmps> guess I'll test the release driver.

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12:29 <PovAddict> if it claims to be 6.8.13, are you sure you're running the correct one? :)

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12:31 <RomW> Okay, I just had success with the 190 beta drivers as well on Linux

12:34 <PovAddict> hmm lots of updates

12:34 <PovAddict> DNS stuff, and linux kernel

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12:40 <hawmps> back to 180.60 - all others crash.

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12:41 <hawmps> ugly nasty weather approaching...

12:47 <RomW> Odd, they worked for me

12:47 <RomW> 185.18.29 and 190

12:48 <RomW> 190.18

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13:13 <hawmps> could be FC8... but I could be wrong.

13:14 <hawmps> spork >> 60.217.229.222 ssh haxorz

13:16 <RomW> Well, I was testing against FC11

13:17 <CoderForLife> helloooo

13:18 <CoderForLife> looks like you'll have to put up with me awhile longer

13:18 <hawmps> btw.. doesn't seem to be any other serious bugs in 6.8.13

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13:19 <hawmps> CFL.. 'corrected boogie'

13:19 <CoderForLife> the procedure went OK - I was doing 2 beats of the upper chamber to one beat of the lower - now everything is in sync  =)

13:20 <CoderForLife> amazing what $700 will buy these days

13:20 <hawmps> lol

13:20 <hawmps> try $170,000

13:21 <CoderForLife> I guess since I'm still around, I should pay some of these bills

13:23 <hawmps> workfetch is still messed up - needs cpu, and asks for gpu work, and refuses to ask for cpu work

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13:25 <hawmps> bbiab

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13:38 <desti> http://www.flickr.com/photos/kmlahoover/3769748964/

13:38 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/mvwjol> (at www.flickr.com)

14:13 <hawmps> White Knight?

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15:20 <hawmps> more spork >> 79.115.146.8

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17:03 <DerMeister> wtf? Milkyway lost its database? How could that happen?

17:04 <Nickuwo> eh... thats a bummer

17:04 <DerMeister> Well, looks like they were able to restore it or at least most of it

17:05 <Nickuwo> I thought I was the only incompetent boinc admin :)

17:05 <DerMeister> However, it should not have happened in the first place

17:05 <Nickuwo> slightly consoling///

17:06 <DerMeister> Well, I don't know what exactly happened and whether they had a recent and working backup... Looks like they had one as they could restore most of the data (according to the latest news entry)

17:06 <DerMeister> And that MySQL tends to kill databases isn't something we never saw before...

17:07 <Nickuwo> mysql doesn't do anything unless you tell it to...

17:08 <DerMeister> Maybe, however most time a project ist down it's because of problems with the database

17:08 <DerMeister> Either crashed databases or tables or just performance issues

17:09 <DerMeister> I can't really tell whether this is only MySQL's fault of BOINC's fault or just both of them. But I'd say the close coupling to MySQL is one of the biggest design problems of BOINC.

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17:11 <DerMeister> Anyway, it doesn't matter. This is probably one thing in BOINC that will never change...

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18:13 <CoderForLife> more sporked - thx xcamel

18:13 <CoderForLife> need to get some rest - doctor's orders

18:13 <CoderForLife> gn

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18:16 <MTughan> Well, I was down 3M credits after the MW crash, but looking at my account page, they're all back (minus maybe 200 or so). So I just have to wait for a stats update. :)

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18:24 <xcamel> guess I should check that..

18:25 <xcamel> mine just updated... lost around 10

18:27 <MTughan> 10K or 10M?

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19:09 <wdsmia> looks like boinc stats updated mw

19:11 <MTughan> Thanks for the heads up.

19:11 <wdsmia> 16M should make the Best five days list lol

19:13 <MTughan> Heh.

19:15 <xcamel> about 10 credits.

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20:38 <SolitonWave> 96.116% done and still over 130 CPU hours to go

20:39 <MTughan> CPDN?

20:39 <Romulus> Somebody said CPDN is downloading files super slow, MTughan

20:40 <SolitonWave> I'm thinking of upgrading the CPU in this machine (a noetbook) if it is possible

20:41 <MTughan> Might be possible. You'd probably have to replace the motherboard though.

20:41 <SolitonWave> oh  :(

20:41 <SolitonWave> The curent CPU is a Celeron

20:42 <MTughan> The CPUs in notebooks are usually soldered to the motherboard.

20:42 <SolitonWave> oh

20:42 <MTughan> And if you knew Intel CPUs, you'd know that Celeron is actually just a name for a CPU and chipset combo.

20:48 <SolitonWave> I'm no expert on chips

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20:48 <SolitonWave> To me Celeron means a disabled CPU

20:52 <PovAddict> [18:05] <Nickuwo> I thought I was the only incompetent boinc admin :)

20:52 <PovAddict> lol

20:53 <PovAddict> Nickuwo: ask zombie67 about it!

20:53 <zombie67> heh

20:53 <MTughan> MW restored a backup.

20:53 <MTughan> They lost about 8 hours work of crunching in all.

20:53 <PovAddict> what's a backup?

20:53 <PovAddict> :P

20:54 * wdsmia slaps PovAddict around with a large Carp

20:54 <zombie67> you mean I lost 53,333 credits!!

20:54 <PovAddict> http://www.funnyden.com/funnypics/448/cartoon39.gif

20:54 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/njnz7r> (at www.funnyden.com)

20:54 <SolitonWave> heheh

20:55 <SolitonWave> hehe @ cartoon  :)

21:15 <SolitonWave> http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20050326

21:15 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5as84> (at ars.userfriendly.org)

21:22 <zombie67> geo...what now?

21:22 <zombie67> what do you want to know?

21:28 <zombie67> what is the max # of pillages/day?

21:28 <SolitonWave> <sigh> Using google, I can not ind one cartoon about the cofee cups built into computers

21:28 <SolitonWave> *find

21:28 <SolitonWave> oops

21:28 <SolitonWave> coffee cup holders

21:35 <efc> &wx 31088

21:35 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 82F / 28C | Humidity: 71% | Pressure: 29.98in / 1015hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a 50 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Lows in the lower 70s. Southwest winds up to 10 mph.; Thursday - Partly sunny with a chance of showers and thunderstorms in the morning...then showers and (1 more message)

21:39 <PovAddict> zombie67: pillages?

21:40 <SolitonWave> I wish it would rain here in Northern Kalifornia

21:50 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

21:50 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 70.9F / 21.6C | Humidity: 66% | Pressure: 29.85in / 1010.7hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Mostly cloudy with scattered showers and isolated thunderstorms. Low in the upper 50s. South wind 5 to 10 mph shifting to the northwest after midnight. Chance of precipitation 50 percent.; Thursday - Cloudy (1 more message)

21:50 <wdsmia> &more

21:50 <Romulus> wdsmia: through mid morning then becoming partly sunny. A chance of showers and isolated thunderstorms in the morning...then a slight chance of showers and isolated thunderstorms in the afternoon. High in the lower 70s. Northwest wind near 15 mph. Chance of precipitation 50 percent.; Thursday Night - Partly cloudy. Low in the mid 50s. Northwest wind 5 to 10 mph.;

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22:08 <zombie67> netsplit?

22:09 <zombie67> "OK boys, just remember...  It's Rape, Kill, Pillage and Burn.  In THAT ORDER!" -- D

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23:01 <zombie67> yoyo?

23:01 <Romulus> hmm... yoyo is down, zombie67

23:01 <PovAddict> he's rarely on at this time

23:04 <PovAddict> timezones and all that

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23:51 <zombie67> he just posted an RSS article for yoyo

23:52 <zombie67> 29 July 2009 Cruncher: faster OGR cores

23:52 <zombie67> I updated the Cruncher application to the latest distributed.net version. The new x86 clients contain three new OGR cores. Depending on your CPU type, the new cores may provide a significant speed improvement over the cores used in previous client versions. In the ppc versions some bugs were fixed.

23:52 <zombie67> I want to know if that applies to the ps3

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