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00:11 <FreeLarry> &wx 98366
00:11 <Romulus> FreeLarry: Temperature: 89.3°F / 31.8°C | Humidity: 46% | Pressure: 29.79in / 1008.7hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows in the mid 60s to lower 70s. Northwest wind to 10 mph this evening becoming light.; Thursday - Sunny. Highs in the 90s to 101. Light wind becoming southwest near 10 mph in the afternoon.; Thursday (1 more message)
00:12 <FreeLarry> good 10+ degree drop in last hour
00:12 <FreeLarry> &more
00:12 <Romulus> FreeLarry: Night - Mostly clear. Lows in the 60s. Northwest wind 10 to 15 mph becoming southwest after midnight.; Excessive Heat Warning, Air Stagnation Advisory for Kitsap County in effect until 6:00 PM PDT on July 31, 2009;
00:19 <PovAddict> &wx eze
00:19 <Romulus> PovAddict: Temperature: 36Â°F / 2Â°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 30.27in / 1025hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h | Updated: 1:00 AM ART; Clear. High:55 ° F.; Clear. Low:33 ° F.; Clear. High:55 ° F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:32 ° F.; Overcast. High:57 ° F.; Chance of Rain. Low:41 ° F.;
00:19 <PovAddict> &version
00:19 <Romulus> PovAddict: The current (running) version of this Supybot is 0.83.3. The newest version available online is 0.83.4.1.
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00:24 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
00:24 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 68.7°F / 20.4°C | Humidity: 92% | Pressure: 29.60in / 1002.3hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Overnight - Mostly cloudy with isolated showers and thunderstorms late this evening...then partly cloudy. Lows in the mid 60s. Light and variable winds. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Thursday - Mostly cloudy. Patchy fog (1 more message)
00:24 <CoderForLife> &more
00:25 <Romulus> CoderForLife: in the morning. A chance of showers and thunderstorms...mainly in the afternoon. Highs in the upper 70s. South winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.; Thursday Night - Showers and thunderstorms likely. Lows in the mid 60s. Southwest winds around 5 mph. Chance of rain 70 percent.;
00:25 <CoderForLife> hmm
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02:28 <CoderForLife> re-hmm
02:50 <efc> hmm?
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02:59 <efc> Toms is usually garbage these days but they did something interesting
02:59 <efc> RAIDed 16 intel SSDs
02:59 <efc> It was fast
03:05 <efc> > 2 gig/sec r/w
03:07 <BSDeepa> And where is that useful nowadays :p?
03:08 <BSDeepa> hmm, isn't that enough for a substitute for RAM?
03:11 <efc> would be 16x64gig, a lot of ram
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03:12 <BSDeepa> I was thinking of the speed
03:13 <efc> Its faster than ram used to be a few years ago
03:14 <efc> ddr2-400 is 3.2gig/sec
03:15 <BSDeepa> Not yet a substitute for RAM then
03:18 <efc> its sort of cheaing since thats basically 16 channel flash vs 1 channel ram
03:37 <efc> Here is ze netbook:
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06:23 <wdsmia> &more
06:23 <Romulus> wdsmia: afternoon. High in the mid 70s. Northwest wind 5 to 15 mph. Chance of precipitation 40 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Low in the mid 50s. Northwest wind 5 to 10 mph.;
06:32 <hawmps> 'lo
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07:54 <_Danilo_> hello
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08:46 <hawmps> 'lo Dan
08:47 <hawmps> spork >> 184.108.40.206 dovecot/email hax
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13:19 <Romulus> New news from boinc: BOINC news July 30, 2009
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13:51 <hawmps> Red Hat Enterprise clone poised to 'die'
13:52 <CoderForLife> ack
13:52 <CoderForLife> My production web server is CentOS
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13:53 <hawmps> I thought you would take notice..
13:53 <CoderForLife> umm-hmm
13:54 <CoderForLife> follow the money, it seems
13:55 <CoderForLife> I am working currently on a MS Money to Qicken migration, since MS decided to stop supporting Money
13:56 <CoderForLife> Looks like I may have a web server project also
13:57 <CoderForLife> let it suffice to say that the import from Money to Quicken needs *work* by Intuit
13:57 <clusty> hey crunchers
13:58 <hawmps> 'lo clusty
13:59 <clusty> first time in 1 year or so when PC crashed overnight (2 month old PC).
13:59 <clusty> wonder if it can be safely attributed to crappy windoze, of I am having some more serious problems
14:02 <hawmps> Don't feel bad.. 3 of my 4 machines have gone 'decrepit' on me..
14:02 <hawmps> ..at home that is..
14:02 <CoderForLife> it's a disease that spreads rapidly
14:03 <CoderForLife> one PC gets sick, the others see it, then they all get sick
14:05 <clusty> :D
14:05 <clusty> CFL, you a sys admin right? (amongst other things :D)
14:06 <clusty> hey Romulus
14:06 <clusty> :D
14:06 <CoderForLife> I Dew It All
14:06 <clusty> how much perfromance can I expect out of an NFS server?
14:06 <clusty> in ideal circumstances
14:06 <clusty> over gigabit ethernet
14:06 <clusty> anything close to net capacity?
14:07 <CoderForLife> I Dew It All Except NFS =)
14:07 <clusty> :D
14:07 <clusty> ok
14:07 <clusty> iSCSI? :D
14:07 <CoderForLife> iSCSI sux
14:07 <clusty> ok
14:07 <clusty> care to elaborate?
14:07 <CoderForLife> if you want to bog down a production system, hook it up to iSCSI and see the users scream
14:08 <clusty> right
14:08 <clusty> we are all number crunchers in the office
14:08 <CoderForLife> I've seen some response times jump an order of magnitude
14:08 <clusty> running linux
14:08 <clusty> and was considering if it was ok to have NFS homes
14:09 <clusty> now there are a lot of HDD resources wasted
14:09 <CoderForLife> you'd probably do OK
14:10 <clusty> now I just gotta figure out how to do homes over NFS. luckilly security is not a biggy
14:10 <clusty> so I don't have to put it in top of kerberos or whatever
14:10 <CoderForLife> I had a rather heated discussion with out security folks the other day
14:11 <clusty> what was the resolution? :D
14:11 <clusty> and who won? :D
14:11 <CoderForLife> They wanted to implement a firewall design that would be ultra-secure, but none of the Internet application would work with
14:11 <clusty> lool
14:11 <clusty> yeah. i know the kind
14:11 <clusty> :D
14:12 <CoderForLife> I offered to disconnect the Internet apps from the Internet, and make them secure without any investment
14:12 <clusty> mose secure thing: just unplug the whole cable
14:12 <CoderForLife> exactly
14:12 <clusty> and you are sure no pesky viruses will be coming
14:12 <CoderForLife> it's not "all about security"
14:12 <clusty> well its security unless it hinders functionality
14:12 <CoderForLife> it's about deivery of the business benefit
14:12 <clusty> and then to the chopping block with it :D
14:13 <clusty> well I could not manage to convince my office mates to get a SSH key
14:13 <clusty> so i can disable ssh with pass access from outside
14:13 <CoderForLife> I call folks like them Network Nazis
14:13 <clusty> now I have a cron job to john-the-ripp all the password every month
14:14 <clusty> and I still find password of the kind: pinkfluffybunnies
14:14 <clusty> :d
14:14 <clusty> what OS-es do you have to deal with?
14:15 <CoderForLife> at w@#% or home?
14:16 <clusty> work
14:16 <clusty> home you're prolly a macster or windowster :D
14:17 <CoderForLife> WinXP, WIndows Server 2003 and 2008, zOS, starting to help with SUSE and Red Hat on the mainframe IFL processots
14:17 <clusty> i dirge for you :D
14:18 <clusty> i am still getting annoyed that my big windows 7 PC 64 bit cannot share stuff with my laptop: windows 7 32 bit
14:18 <CoderForLife> at home I have 3 versions of Fedora, CentOS, Open SUSE, WinXP, Vista, and just started using a Mac
14:19 <CoderForLife> oh, and 3 machines running different version of Ubuntu
14:19 <clusty> well I have it easy:
14:20 <clusty> 1 big machine ubuntu 64 a bit old
14:20 <clusty> and a bunch of smaller ubuntus 32
14:20 <clusty> and a few VMs
14:20 <clusty> that run windoze
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14:20 <CoderForLife> I just started developing apps for the iPhone, hence the Intel Mac
14:20 <clusty> really
14:20 <clusty> :D
14:20 <clusty> i was looking into that the other day
14:20 <clusty> :D
14:21 <clusty> i got a MAC VM
14:21 <clusty> since i dont have a mac
14:21 <clusty> but net won't work
14:21 <clusty> got=downloaded
14:21 <clusty> :D
14:22 <CoderForLife> right now, I'm migrating my personal finances off MS Money to Quicken
14:23 <CoderForLife> the Quicken import really screwed up my main checking account transactions
14:23 <clusty> I am still eyeballing them :D
14:23 <clusty> keeping CSV files
14:24 <CoderForLife> I have restarted my software company, and plan to use Quicken to track those accounts as well as personal
14:27 <clusty> excuse my ignorance, but what sort of stuff do these programs do?
14:28 <PovAddict> let you track how screwed your finances are
14:28 <CoderForLife> personal finances - checking accounts, investments, bill paying.etc
14:28 <PovAddict> bankruptcy ETA?
14:28 <CoderForLife> and as Pov said
14:28 <CoderForLife> indeed
14:29 <CoderForLife> extimated centuries until retirement
14:29 <clusty> :D
14:30 <clusty> i have my day when I do taxes: check all acounts, pay all bills, ...
14:30 <clusty> not even bothering the rest of the month
14:30 <hawmps> SAS might be better
14:30 <CoderForLife> I wish I could use SAS to clean up this import
14:31 <clusty> i am now pissed that euro is weak in comparison with canadian dollar
14:31 <clusty> and I am earning euros
14:31 <clusty> grrr
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14:33 <CoderForLife> that little X closes the window
14:39 <CoderForLife> need to move this window to do final reconiliation for 1992 to 1998 - bbl
14:44 <clusty> CoderForLife, so is there any other method to write iphone apps, but using xcode and mac tools?
14:44 <PovAddict> yes there is
14:44 <PovAddict> but you have to compile the compiler yourself
14:45 <PovAddict> and docs probably haven't been updated for recent SDK versions
14:45 <clusty> PovAddict, but I will lose build scripts and such?
14:45 <PovAddict> hmm?
14:46 <clusty> like if I were to compile some visual studio project under linux
14:46 <clusty> i woul dhave to create the makle files
14:46 <clusty> and viceversa
14:46 <PovAddict> right
14:46 <PovAddict> that would be the least of your problems though
14:46 <CoderForLife> many perish along that road, clusty
14:46 <clusty> this is a major pain, since I am not planning on doing this fulltime
14:47 <clusty> easier to get the network running in my virtual machine and just get all the crap in a jailed OS X :D
14:47 <Romulus> Title: Upgrading the iPhone Toolchain - Jay Freeman (saurik) (at www.saurik.com)
14:48 <PovAddict> you have to download bits and pieces from multiple sources, including downloading the 1GB SDK from Apple just to extract a few files from it, then compile the compiler from source
14:48 <PovAddict> I successfully made it back in 1.x...
14:48 <PovAddict> didn't try again
14:51 <clusty> PovAddict, that is a linux howto I presume?
14:51 <PovAddict> yes, as far as i know there is currently no way to build iphone apps on Windows at all
14:51 <PovAddict> there used to be a cygwin-based compiler, but it was for 1.x firmware and was never updated
14:53 <clusty> screw it. not worth. one other thing i was wondeirng. assume you buid the app and all that
14:53 <clusty> how do you upload it to the iphone?
14:53 <clusty> through cydia and such?
14:53 <PovAddict> copy it yourself via ssh
14:54 <clusty> ok
14:54 <PovAddict> cydia only needed if you want to redistribute it to the outside (unofficial) world
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16:01 <xcamel> re-hi
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16:19 <xcamel> re-re-hi
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16:32 <xcamel> now to move the extents of that bad drive.
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16:55 <xcamel> guess I need more study..
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17:17 <xcamel> brb
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17:33 <wdsmia> 16,310,613 today...
17:36 <MTughan> 3.1M here.
17:39 <wdsmia> sure screws the hell out of best 5 days lol
17:40 <xcamel> 14,478,197
17:41 <wdsmia> lol one day is more than Jays total
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17:46 <wdsmia> should hit 50M this weekend
18:25 <xcamel> don't hit it too hard..
18:29 <jasong> anybody here know Chuck Lasher?i'm trying to get in touch with him, and I'm thinking my buddy bookmark(or whatever the heck it's called) may be messed up
18:29 <jasong> He generally goes by chuckpa on freenode
18:30 <xcamel> oh goodie.. boinc logs getting updated..
18:31 <MTughan> I haven't seen Chuck for a while.
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18:32 <jasong> hmmmm, his away message on Yahoo says his Yahoo account is screwy, and freenode is the only other way I know to contact him
18:33 <MTughan> Send him a message on MemoServ. He apparently identified to his NickServ account less than a week ago.
18:33 <PovAddict> MTughan: how do you know?
18:33 <PovAddict> nickserv seems not to have that info
18:33 <jasong> Also, and mildly off-topic, who is Chuck Lavery? Did I just make that up? I thought it was Chuck's last name for like 2 months before he corrected me
18:34 <MTughan> /msg NickServ info ChuckPA
18:34 <PovAddict> "last seen" is empty
18:34 <MTughan> -NickServ- Last seen : (about 0 weeks ago)
18:34 <PovAddict> yes so it's empty
18:34 <MTughan> It means within the last week.
18:34 <PovAddict> nope, for someone who was in recently, it looks like this:
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18:34 <PovAddict> -NickServ- Last seen : Jul 30 21:02:46 2009 (1 hour, 31 minutes, 47 seconds ago)
18:35 <MTughan> PovAddict: Ah, you've never seen private mode have you?
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18:42 <blaise> anyone here alive?
18:42 <MTughan> blaise: Somewhat.
18:42 <blaise> MTughan: are you an active participent of SETI@home ?
18:43 <MTughan> Used to be. Something up with it again?
18:43 <blaise> I can't seem to get workload
18:43 <MTughan> As of 3.5 minutes ago, they had 113,504 WUs ready to send.
18:43 <PovAddict> do you have any app preference configured, like getting only astropulse?
18:43 <MTughan> No Astropulse though.
18:44 <blaise> keeps saying Project has no jobs available
18:50 <blaise> tragic..
18:50 <MTughan> blaise: Do you know where BOINC stores its data files on your computer?
18:52 <blaise> ehrm, I belive so yes..
18:53 <blaise> ~/BOINC/projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu
18:53 <MTughan> Is there a file named app_info.xml in there?
19:02 <blaise> negative
19:03 <blaise> finaly
19:03 <blaise> I finaly got something
19:03 <MTughan> Try going to http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project and see what applications you have enabled there.
19:03 <Romulus> Title: Please log in (at setiathome.berkeley.edu)
19:03 <blaise> thank god
19:03 <blaise> hehe
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19:04 <blaise> so does folding@home not use BOINC anymore
19:04 <blaise> ?
19:05 <MTughan> I don't think Folding@home ever used BOINC.
19:05 <PovAddict> nope, never did
19:09 <blaise> really?
19:10 <blaise> I must have been taking the good stuf..
19:10 <blaise> 8]
19:11 <blaise> so still no graphics model for the astropulse..
19:11 <MTughan> Does S@H have any Astropulse anymore?
19:13 <blaise> aparently, I just got one..
19:13 <MTughan> Check http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project then and see if one of the projects is turned off.
19:14 <blaise> saysit's going to be 398 hours
19:15 <PovAddict> yup
19:15 <blaise> I don't see anything about projects
19:16 <MTughan> "Run only the selected applications"
19:16 <blaise> ahh
19:17 <blaise> AP AP5 and S@H Enhanced
19:17 <blaise> lol, Enhanced
19:17 <MTughan> All three are enabled?
19:17 <PovAddict> strange, there are a hundred thousand "s@h enhanced" tasks available
19:17 <MTughan> What kind of machine do you have?
19:18 <blaise> it's a laptop
19:18 <MTughan> OS?
19:18 <blaise> athlon 64 with 3 gigs ram
19:18 <blaise> linux
19:18 <MTughan> Should fall under Linux/x86_64 then... Of which, there are two apps?
19:19 <Romulus> Title: Applications (at setiathome.berkeley.edu)
19:20 <blaise> looks like all three are supported
19:21 <MTughan> Yes, but why are there two entries for Linux/x86_64?
19:24 <blaise> two different versions of the app
19:28 <blaise> you know, like steve ballmer style?
19:28 <blaise> Developers?
19:28 <blaise> MTughan?
19:28 <Romulus> MTughan is compiling apps for Milkyway, blaise
19:29 <MTughan> Was.
19:29 <MTughan> Yes, you have a question?
19:29 <blaise> Nien..
19:29 <MTughan> forget MTughan
19:29 <Romulus> Gotcha, MTughan.
19:29 <blaise> Sprechen cie?
19:30 <MTughan> Sorry, I don't speak German.
19:30 <blaise> ah, you said "Was."
19:30 <blaise> I thought you said "What." in german..
19:30 <blaise> lol
19:30 <blaise> sorry
19:31 <MTughan> It was meant to be inserted in Romulus's answer.
19:31 <MTughan> "MTughan *was* compiling apps for Milkyway, blaise"
19:32 <blaise> ah,
19:32 <blaise> an AI eggdrop I see..
19:32 <MTughan> Supybot actually.
19:32 <MTughan> &version
19:32 <Romulus> MTughan: The current (running) version of this Supybot is 0.83.3. The newest version available online is 0.83.4.1.
19:33 <blaise> never heard of Supybot
19:34 <blaise> using the snake eh?
19:35 <MTughan> It's actually the Infobot plugin, although I think most people here don't like it.
19:35 <MTughan> &list infobot
19:35 <Romulus> MTughan: stats, status, tell, and update
19:35 <blaise> that's kinda funny
19:35 <blaise> hehe
19:37 <xcamel> just a couple of 'cranks' don't like it..
19:37 <xcamel> ;-)
19:39 <xcamel> &wx 12074
19:39 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 75.4°F / 24.1°C | Humidity: 63% | Pressure: 29.85in / 1010.7hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 9.0mph / 14.5km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear this evening...then mostly cloudy with a slight chance of showers after midnight. The low in the lower 60s. West winds 5 to 10 mph...becoming southeast after midnight. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Friday - (2 more messages)
19:39 <xcamel> &more
19:39 <Romulus> xcamel: Cloudy with a chance of thunderstorms. Showers...mainly in the afternoon. Cooler. Humid with the high in the lower 70s. South winds around 5 mph in the morning...becoming light and variable. Chance of rain 90 percent.; Friday Night - Mostly cloudy with showers with a chance of thunderstorms in the evening...then partly cloudy with a chance of showers after midnight. Humid with the low in the (1 more message)
19:39 <xcamel> &more
19:39 <Romulus> xcamel: lower 60s. Light and variable winds...becoming northeast around 5 mph after midnight. Chance of rain 90 percent.;
19:39 <xcamel> just what we need..
19:39 <xcamel> more rain
19:41 <xcamel> a couple of towns not too far away got 5+ inches of rain last night... nasty flash flooding
20:35 <CoderForLife> Flash flood watch just posted here
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21:26 <blaise> Could anyone tell me why the show graphics button isn't working for SETI@home ?
21:29 <blaise> is the Classic client still available?
21:32 <PovAddict> the classic server was shut down years ago
21:50 <blaise> :o
21:51 <blaise> the show graphics button in BOINC isn't working..
21:51 <PovAddict> I think astropulse has no graphics, but I'm not sure
22:00 <blaise> I finished the only astropulse I had been issued
22:03 <jasong> Hey, here's a thought. What if the universe is teeming with life, and humans are just not liked? Maybe we're considered the smelly bums of the Milky Way galaxy
22:03 <jasong> It wouldn't take much if an advanced to society to keep us from detecting them
22:03 <jasong> -to
22:04 <jasong> God, that was a horribly written sentence
22:07 <blaise> lo
22:07 <blaise> l
22:07 <blaise> or, what if there was a galactic war between millions of different species..
22:08 <blaise> and we're survivors of that war..
22:08 <blaise> possibly labor slaves of a more advanced civilization
22:08 <blaise> left behind and lost to time..
22:43 <blaise> no comment eh?
22:43 <blaise> lol
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