IRC logs of #boinc for Monday, 2009-08-10

00:00 <PovAddict> if you're low on black ink, it offers mixing the colors to form an ugly but usable black

00:00 <PovAddict> if you're out of black ink, the printer won't work

00:00 <efc> Nice

00:00 <PovAddict> which is when you'd need the "mix colors" feature the most

00:00 <PovAddict> if any cartridge is empty, it won't print

00:00 <efc> Color lasers have gotten pretty decent. But I think they've started to rip on toner too.

00:00 <PovAddict> if you're out of yellow, you can't print a black-only document

00:01 <PovAddict> also, every other model of the same manufacturer has different and incompatible cartridges

00:02 <PovAddict> so if your printer breaks, and you decide to buy a new one instead of fixing it (eg. out of warranty), you can be almost certain the ink from the old printer won't work on it

00:02 <efc> Yeah

00:03 <efc> I think the ink is more expensive than platinum on a per ounce basis

00:03 <PovAddict> it's 1 am and my sister is trying to print homework for tomorrow, and here I am, searching for a black cartridge (I thought we had bought one already)

00:03 <PovAddict> I found one, and it turned out to be for the older printer we had, which decided to stop printing black (so we bought the new one)

00:04 <PovAddict> the cartridge is a bit bigger and has the electrical pins on the front instead of the back

00:04 <PovAddict> I'm sure the design change is intentional incompatibility

00:05 <PovAddict> she also can't just print it in blue, because the printer *refuses* to print if out of black, for no real reason

00:05 <PovAddict> if I had money, I'd invest in "open source printers"

00:06 <Tank_Master> ours uses the color carterage when you prin in black n white mode

00:06 <PovAddict> open source drivers, open source and replaceable firmware, and explicit permission and specs for anyone to make cartridges...

00:06 <Tank_Master> it also moncomizes the document

00:06 <Tank_Master> so you have no grayscale

00:07 <PovAddict> since we can't subsidize with ink, that will probably make the printers quite expensive; but so be it

00:08 <Tank_Master> isnt is usesally cheeper just to buy a new printer?

00:08 <PovAddict> well that's how I got my next-to-last EPSON

00:08 <PovAddict> we went to buy ink for the HP printer

00:08 <PovAddict> turned out a brand new EPSON printer was cheaper

00:08 <Tank_Master> just sad

00:09 <PovAddict> lasted like a year before it stopped working

00:09 <PovAddict> but that's product quality in the 21st century

00:09 <PovAddict> http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/1174/broked.jpg

00:09 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/llet35> (at img27.imageshack.us)

00:11 <PovAddict> year 2009, my sister made her homework on the computer and is now rewriting it on paper at 1 am thanks to printer maker greed

00:11 <Tank_Master> http://imgur.com/6zjNO.jpg

00:13 <PovAddict> idiots

00:15 <PovAddict> hmm isn't printer ink an investment actually?

00:15 <PovAddict> buy cartridges, you can be sure they'll be more expensive next month

00:15 <Tank_Master> lol

00:15 <Tank_Master> crags list them :P

00:15 <PovAddict> oh wait, incompatibility across models... maybe that's why

00:16 <PovAddict> buy cartridges, and they will be soon worthless because they don't work on any new printer

00:16 <Tank_Master> ahh, good point

00:19 <PovAddict> "some cartridges cost over seven times more than vintage champagne per millilitre"

00:20 <Tank_Master> heh

00:54 *** jedirock is now known as MTughan

00:57 <PovAddict> "The company I work for signed a lease on three workhorse laser printers, service calls included. I am so very glad of that. They break down about once a week, necessitating a service call."

01:09 <PovAddict> efc: you may be interested in this http://www.opencores.org/

01:09 <Romulus> Title: Home :: OpenCores (at www.opencores.org)

01:10 <efc> I'm familiar with it, good stuff

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05:33 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

05:33 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 73.4F / 23.0C | Humidity: 90% | Pressure: 29.78in / 1008.4hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. Showers and thunderstorms likely...mainly this afternoon. Highs in the mid 80s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 60 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers and thunderstorms. (1 more message)

05:33 <CoderForLife> &more

05:33 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Muggy. Lows in the upper 60s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.; Tuesday - Partly sunny. A chance of showers and thunderstorms... mainly in the afternoon. Highs in the mid 80s. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.;

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06:22 <KathrynM> I love getting *nix jokes

06:22 <KathrynM> http://www.penguinpetes.com/Doomed_to_Obscurity/index.php?strip=0000113.jpg

06:22 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/njvdta> (at www.penguinpetes.com)

06:26 <desti> heh

06:29 <wdsmia_> &wx 50319

06:29 <Romulus> wdsmia_: Temperature: 65.6F / 18.7C | Humidity: 97% | Pressure: 29.96in / 1014.4hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. Patchy fog through mid morning. A 20 percent chance of thunderstorms in the afternoon. High in the mid 80s. Northwest wind 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Low in the mid 60s. Northwest wind 5 to (1 more message)

06:29 <wdsmia_> &more

06:29 <Romulus> wdsmia_: 10 mph.; Tuesday - Sunny. High in the mid 80s. North wind near 5 mph.;

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06:33 <hawmps> 'lo

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08:33 <MTughan> PovAddict: On the iPhone SMS exploit. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/hacking-iphone-security,2384.html

08:33 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/lpjtrk> (at www.tomshardware.com)

08:38 <hawmps> go figure..

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11:25 <up365> &wx 08232

11:25 <Romulus> up365: Temperature: 92.1F / 33.4C | Humidity: 18% | Pressure: 29.80in / 1009.0hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 3.6mph / 5.8km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Isolated showers and thunderstorms this afternoon. Highs in the upper 90s. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent. Afternoon heat index values around 105.; Tonight - Partly cloudy with a chance of (1 more message)

11:25 <up365> &more

11:25 <Romulus> up365: showers and thunderstorms. Lows in the lower 70s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Tuesday - Partly cloudy with a chance of showers and thunderstorms. Highs in the lower 90s. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 40 percent. Afternoon heat index values around 100.; Heat Advisory for Atlantic County in effect until 8:00 PM EDT on August 10, 2009;

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11:27 <sethy> hola

11:27 <sethy> i have a question

11:27 <sethy> who designed the nuclear failsafe

11:28 <sethy> i look on the google and its like

11:28 <sethy> NOVEL

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12:04 <Nickuwo> ewwww

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14:03 <hawmps> &wx 12020

14:03 <Romulus> hawmps: Temperature: 84.0F / 28.9C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.59in / 1001.9hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 8.0mph / 12.9km/h ; This Afternoon - Partly sunny with scattered showers and thunderstorms. Some thunderstorms may produce gusty winds and heavy rainfall. Warmer with highs in the upper 80s. West winds around 10 mph. Chance of rain 50 (2 more messages)

14:03 <hawmps> &more

14:03 <Romulus> hawmps: percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening...then becoming mostly cloudy. Scattered showers. Scattered thunderstorms. Some thunderstorms may produce gusty winds...small hail and heavy rainfall in the evening. Humid with lows in the upper 60s. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.; Tuesday - Mostly cloudy in the morning...then becoming partly sunny. Scattered showers. (1 more message)

14:04 <hawmps> &more

14:04 <Romulus> hawmps: Scattered thunderstorms. Some thunderstorms may produce gusty winds...small hail and heavy rainfall in the afternoon. Humid with highs in the lower 80s. West winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 40 percent.;

14:04 <hawmps> like friggin soup out there

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14:35 <Nickuwo> hmm, i think aim is broken

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14:55 <Tank_Master> ?

14:56 <Tank_Master> aohell im?

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15:01 <hawmps> likely..

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15:02 <Tank_Master> did that ever work?

15:04 <Tank_Master> http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20090807121155_Intel_Starts_Pilot_Production_of_Mainstream_Chips_with_Unlocked_Multiplier.html

15:04 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/ny79wl> (at www.xbitlabs.com)

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15:25 <Nickuwo> dont be so... facetious

15:26 <PovAddict> lol aol

15:27 <Nickuwo> dont bash aim just cause you dont have any friends to talk to :)

15:27 <Nickuwo> mwahaha

15:28 <PovAddict> I don't have any friends who use AOL

15:28 <Nickuwo> everyone who is l33t uses aol. duh

15:29 <PovAddict> but I remember attaching explosives to an AOL promo CD with friends

15:29 <Nickuwo> nice. i can't remember what i did with mine... hoepfully it involved fire

15:31 <Nickuwo> hmm... what to eat... what to eat...

15:33 <Tank_Master> pizza?

15:33 <Romulus> pizza is the cure for a long day at the rugrat factory, Tank_Master

15:33 * Tank_Master pushes Romulus into a crevasse

15:34 <Tank_Master> &forget pizza

15:34 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: There is no such factoid.

15:34 <Tank_Master> bah, oh well

15:34 <MTughan> forget pizza

15:34 <Romulus> Gotcha.

15:34 <MTughan> No &. ;)

15:34 <Tank_Master> ahh, ok

15:34 <Tank_Master> lol

15:34 <Tank_Master> pizza?

15:34 <Tank_Master> thx

15:35 <yoyo[RKN]> pizza is the cure for a long day at the rugrat factory, Tank_Master

15:35 <MTughan> np

15:35 <MTughan> lol...

15:35 <MTughan> pizza?

15:35 <Romulus> Rumor has it pizza is the cure for a long day at the rugrat factory, Tank_Master, MTughan

15:35 <MTughan> forget pizza

15:35 <Romulus> Got it!

15:35 <MTughan> Stupid Infobot plugin.

15:35 <Tank_Master> lol

15:35 <yoyo[RKN]> ^^

15:35 <Tank_Master> stupid yoyo impersonation

15:36 <Tank_Master> :)

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15:48 <yomshleeshee> any comments on how well the new client works? good? bad? haven't run boinc in a while and was going to start it back up

15:48 <MTughan> Which one?

15:48 <Romulus> I guess Which one is giving you headaches, MTughan

15:48 <Tank_Master> mean

15:48 <Tank_Master> meah*

15:49 <yomshleeshee> well, honestly I haven't used it since version 6 came out

15:49 <Tank_Master> stupid bot

15:49 <Tank_Master> Im using 6.6.38

15:49 <Tank_Master> havent realy had meny issues with it

15:49 <Tank_Master> youll need 6.6.x to run programs on the video card

15:50 <yomshleeshee> oh, berkeley's page says 6.4.5 is the current version. is that a beta?

15:50 <Tank_Master> for what os?

15:50 <yomshleeshee> XP

15:50 <PovAddict> depends on your definition of 'beta'

15:50 <Tank_Master> should be 6.6.36

15:50 <Tank_Master> pov's right :P

15:50 <Tank_Master> its open source, its always beta

15:50 <PovAddict> some could argue boinc has always been beta quality :)

15:50 <Tank_Master> yeah

15:51 <yomshleeshee> well, there's always under development and there's testing a few things before it goes out on the main page

15:51 <yomshleeshee> no doubt

15:51 <PovAddict> yomshleeshee: well, since the GPU stuff, things were released according to PR stuff, not according to how much they were tested

15:51 <MTughan> Tank_Master: 6.4.x or later for CUDA.

15:51 <Tank_Master> ahh, 4 works?

15:51 <Tank_Master> thought it was only 6

15:51 <MTughan> That was the first release for CUDA.

15:51 <yomshleeshee> i see. well GPU's not an option for me so. no big deal

15:52 <PovAddict> 6.4 was released the day nVidia wanted it to be released, to match a press release from them

15:52 <PovAddict> even though a serious scheduling bug was reported a few days before

15:52 <yomshleeshee> bummer

15:52 <Tank_Master> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php

15:52 <Romulus> Title: Download BOINC client software (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

15:52 <Tank_Master> 6.4.5 is the older version

15:52 <yomshleeshee> isee

15:52 <PovAddict> there were some later 6.4.x's that fixed that, tho

15:52 <MTughan> Isn't it 6.4.7 now?

15:53 <PovAddict> anyway, things haven't really worked right since they added GPU, so I'm sticking to 6.2

15:53 <Tank_Master> for windows, yes mt

15:53 <yomshleeshee> ok, now I see. I'm on my linux machine so it sent me to that page and there's a "newer" version for windows

15:53 <Tank_Master> im running on my gpu, so I dont have a choice

15:53 <Tank_Master> 6.6.36 is for all OSs

15:54 <yomshleeshee> i see

15:54 <yomshleeshee> cool then I'll give it a go after taking a break

15:54 <Tank_Master> if your wanting to run on a geforce 8800 or higher card, youll need the later for better support

15:55 <Tank_Master> ATI still isnt supported yet

15:55 <yomshleeshee> me? No, g-card. just mboard graphics :-(

15:55 <Tank_Master> they you might be fine with what you have now

15:55 <yomshleeshee> gotcha

15:56 <Tank_Master> cept for a handfull of projects that have a multithreaded work unit

15:56 <yomshleeshee> ah

15:56 <Tank_Master> but there arent meny that do

15:56 <yomshleeshee> right

15:57 <yomshleeshee> good stuff. thanks for the info

15:57 <Tank_Master> np

15:58 <Tank_Master> ill bbl

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16:06 <CoderForLife> t-storm in progress

16:06 <CoderForLife> strange loss of power in the data center - all breakers look on

16:10 <PovAddict> I had a power outage here a while ago

16:11 <PovAddict> I stopped BOINC and continued using the computer until the UPS started beeping constantly, which *might* mean low battery so I shutdown

16:12 <PovAddict> I have no idea what happened with the UPS box

16:12 <PovAddict> with manual, cables, software

16:12 <MTughan> If it's an APC UPS, you should be able to get the manual online.

16:13 <PovAddict> my network hardware is not connected to the UPS :)

16:13 <MTughan> I mean now that you have power. :)

16:13 <PovAddict> now it doesn't matter anymore :)

16:13 <MTughan> Until the next power outage.

16:14 <PovAddict> before the next power outage I'll have asked my mom what the hell she did with the box

16:15 <PovAddict> off to buy black liquid gold

16:15 <PovAddict> er, printer ink

16:15 <FreeLarry58> unless the pwr outage occurs now --- beep

16:15 <PovAddict> (same price)

16:15 <FreeLarry58> naw gold cheaper

16:15 <FreeLarry58> have fun PovAddict

16:16 <yomshleeshee> later, thanks for the client info

16:17 * FreeLarry58 realizes granddaughter to the distructive phase of exploration and developement - much to parents sudden dimise of thier computer

16:18 <FreeLarry58> pulled part of paper clip out of usb port on back - mb fried as well as vid card from shorts

16:19 <FreeLarry58> and son in law not going to like his choice of av and protection as he let norton tie the security to hardware configureation

16:19 <yomshleeshee> ouch. I found usb port can handle a brief short pretty well, but everything has its limits o.O

16:19 <FreeLarry58> most of his personnel/business info now locked on hd that cant be accessed

16:20 <FreeLarry58> same yomshleeshee but not stuck permenantly in and power cycled several times while they tried to start up the machine

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16:21 <yomshleeshee> yeah.... no doubt

16:22 <FreeLarry58> at least was able to recover some of thier personel data that wasn't locked into the logical partion for them so they didn't lose all thier baby, wedding pics

16:22 <yomshleeshee> that's good

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16:26 <yomshleeshee> gtg

16:34 <PovAddict> back from being ripped off, now to install the thing

16:35 <PovAddict> shop had a lot of PS2 games, the price label on them seemed way too high

16:36 <PovAddict> then I noticed that was not the price, it was just a number

16:37 <PovAddict> you ask for it by number on the counter and they put the copied DVD-R in a box and add the matching cover paper

16:37 <PovAddict> &currency convert 10 ars usd

16:37 <Romulus> PovAddict: 10.00 ars = 2.61 usd

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16:39 <PovAddict> copyright holders should try to stop that kind of shop instead of suing people who download

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16:55 <xcamel> damn it's hot/humpd

16:55 <CoderForLife> well - that's a new one

16:55 <xcamel> and humid too..

16:55 <CoderForLife> GFI had tripped in the data center

16:56 <CoderForLife> at least I know for sure that 3 outlets are on the same circuit

16:56 <xcamel> the oven just when 'ghost in the machine' again..

16:56 <xcamel> er went, even

16:56 * yomshleeshee is away: busy

16:56 <CoderForLife> took down the main set of servers plus the LAN

16:57 <xcamel> power system overload... manufactured healthcare, computers committing rebooticide.

16:57 <CoderForLife> the world has run amok

16:58 <xcamel> 82 and 100% humidity

16:58 <CoderForLife> and you and I are supposedly some kind of brown-shirted un-American mobster

16:58 <xcamel> and happy to be so.

16:59 <CoderForLife> you bitter clinger, you

17:01 <xcamel> bbl...

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17:28 <wdsmia_> re-hi

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17:35 <wdsmia> http://affiliate.kickapps.com/_Hail-Storm-Video/video/748073/62904.html

17:35 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/mwcvee> (at affiliate.kickapps.com)

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17:36 <Tank_Master> wb

17:36 <yomshleeshee> thanks

17:36 <yomshleeshee> btw, so the bot makes a tinyurl every time a url is posted? Slick.

17:37 <Tank_Master> if the url is over a certain length

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17:37 <Tank_Master> yes

17:37 <yomshleeshee> nice

17:38 <yomshleeshee> does boinc have an IRC cloak?

17:40 <Tank_Master> boinc?

17:40 <Romulus> I guess boinc is all perfect and stuff, Tank_Master

17:40 <Tank_Master> forget boinc

17:40 <Romulus> 10-4!

17:40 * yomshleeshee is confused.

17:40 <yomshleeshee> why not?

17:40 <Tank_Master> boinc has nothing to do with irc

17:41 <Tank_Master> no, I was telling the bot to forget boinc

17:41 <Tank_Master> so it wouldnt post the message automaticly

17:41 <yomshleeshee> so? sure beats the generic host thing. and boinc's awesome

17:41 <yomshleeshee> oh, ha!

17:41 <yomshleeshee> bots :-/

17:41 <Tank_Master> yeah

17:42 <Tank_Master> are both good and frikin annoying :P

17:42 <wdsmia> lol

17:42 <yomshleeshee> so I'm the only dork that's thought a boinc cloak would be cool, huh?

17:42 <yomshleeshee> true

17:42 <Tank_Master> I dont use cloaks...

17:42 <yomshleeshee> i noticed

17:43 <jasong1> Quick question about netbooks when you guys have time?

17:43 <yomshleeshee> don't care about IP and stuff? i mean firewall's a necessity, but just giving out the IP is another thing.

17:43 <Tank_Master> go for it jasong1

17:44 <Tank_Master> if someone really want to know the ip, its not that hard to find

17:44 <jasong1> Which would use up more power, a laptop dedicated to processing it's own data, or a monitor that simply sends commands to a desktop computer and simply wirelessly displays the video?

17:45 <jasong1> I know that a while back, decades ago, they had something similar, except not wireless

17:45 <Tank_Master> overall the laptop would consume less

17:46 <Tank_Master> as for the display, the wierless monitor

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18:29 <FreeLarry58> ugg looks like seti really going for long wu's now - at least for my older machines -- times have doubled and tripled over last 2 weeks to complete the wu's

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18:44 <yomshleeshee> hmm. how are einstein wu's compared to they used to be? anyone know?

18:44 <FreeLarry58> about the same it appears

18:44 <Tank_Master> I dont think they are much different

18:44 <xcamel> mostly the same

18:44 <Tank_Master> though a cusa app is being developed

18:44 <yomshleeshee> good to know

18:44 <Tank_Master> cuda*

18:45 <yomshleeshee> yeah, no cuda here :-/

18:47 <FreeLarry58> seti cuda wu's went from around 2 hrs on a 8400 to over 9 hrs

18:47 <FreeLarry58> and some much longer depending on angle i guess

18:49 <FreeLarry58> regular wu's on that machine now pushing 15 hrs

18:49 * FreeLarry58 guess good thing to have over 20000 pending credits on regular and beta seti

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20:21 <zombie67> i need help

20:21 <zombie67> BOINC won't use all my ram

20:21 <zombie67> I have it set to 95%/99%

20:22 <zombie67> yet it is waiting for ram

20:22 <PovAddict> "waiting for memory"?

20:22 <PovAddict> is it set to "run always" or "run according to preferences"?

20:22 <zombie67> run always

20:22 <zombie67> is there a pastebin for pictures?

20:22 <PovAddict> http://imagebin.ca/

20:22 <Romulus> Title: Imagebin - Upload an Image (at imagebin.ca)

20:23 <zombie67> http://imagebin.ca/view/8ZlhpnPu.html

20:23 <Romulus> Title: snap.png (at imagebin.ca)

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20:23 <zombie67> the machine has 4gb

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20:24 <PovAddict> what the hell is BoincProjectUpda...?

20:24 <zombie67> it is an app that you can set to request work every x

20:24 <zombie67> ssh!

20:24 <zombie67> ;)

20:24 <zombie67> now back to the problem

20:25 <zombie67> why won't it see/use all my ram?

20:25 <PovAddict> where did you set it to 99%?

20:25 <zombie67> computing prefs

20:26 <PovAddict> web?

20:27 <zombie67> http://imagebin.ca/view/u2gtHvWe.html

20:27 <Romulus> Title: snap2.png (at imagebin.ca)

20:27 <PovAddict> are you sure you don't have "local prefs" on that computer?

20:28 <zombie67> I did not, but I cleared it out just now anyway

20:28 <zombie67> still no change

20:29 <zombie67> and by just now, i meant before I took the snapshot

20:29 <zombie67> just now, it started using all the RAM

20:29 <zombie67> but for at least a half hour, it was stuck like the the snap

20:32 <zombie67> oh well, chalk it up to another BOINC bizarre unexplainable behavior

20:35 <KathrynM> arrrrrrrrgggggggggghhhhhhhhh!  I can't eat my breakfast (yogurt) without a little kitten nose trying to get some

20:35 <PovAddict> I'd think that's cute :)

20:37 <KathrynM> and all hell breaks loose if I happen to have a glass of milk

20:38 <PovAddict> give her some milk, then get your own milk and *hide*

20:40 <KathrynM> lol

20:44 <zombie67> wow.

20:45 <zombie67> i just turned off HT, because I am running TLP, which uses a lot of ram.  so this way a fewer number of tasks would run.

20:45 <zombie67> the rebooted.

20:46 <zombie67> in the past, BOINC was always smart enough to see the change in CPUs, and then re-run benchmarks

20:46 <zombie67> not this time.

20:46 <zombie67> still running 8 tasks, when there are only 4 cores

20:46 <zombie67> yep

20:46 <zombie67> ncpus is still -1

20:47 <PovAddict> -1?!

20:47 <Romulus> -1 is mine, PovAddict

20:47 <zombie67> -1 = no change to the real thing

20:47 <zombie67> used to be 0, but that changed to -1 so that people could test GPUs and stuff

20:48 <zombie67> manually running benchmarks fixed it

20:52 <zombie67> nope, I take it back.  It's back to running 8 tasks

20:52 <zombie67> WTF?!

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20:53 <zombie67> well, if it's going to run 8 regardless, I guess it would be best to turn HT back on.

20:53 <zombie67> stoopid boinc

20:54 <PovAddict> lol

20:54 <PovAddict> hold on

20:57 <PovAddict> can't figure out any possible cause from the code

20:59 <PovAddict> if the cc_config setting is >= 0 (which it's not, since it's -1), ncpus is set to that

20:59 <zombie67> yeah

20:59 <PovAddict> if the host detection managed to figure out how many CPUs exist, ncpus is set to that

20:59 <PovAddict> otherwise, it's set to 1, as a fallback

21:01 <zombie67> my fallback:  stoopid boinc

21:01 <PovAddict> afterwards, if ncpus isn't 0 (which can only happen if you set it to 0 in cc_config), it checks for your global prefs

21:01 <PovAddict> for max CPUs to use, etc

21:02 <zombie67> right

21:02 <PovAddict> finally, if ncpus is now different from the number it had when this bunch of code started, benchmarks are re-run, CPU scheduler is triggered, and work fetch is probably triggered

21:03 <zombie67> like i said, it is usually smart enough to notice when I turn on/off HT

21:03 <zombie67> but not now

21:03 <zombie67> oh well

21:03 <PovAddict> there are no debugging messages around this

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21:04 <PovAddict> no log flags you could turn on in cc_config

21:05 <zombie67> haha!

21:05 <zombie67> now I turned HT back on.

21:05 <zombie67> 8 threads per task manager

21:05 <zombie67> and BOINC is running only 4 tasks

21:05 <zombie67> the exact opposite

21:05 <PovAddict> what the...

21:06 <zombie67> no waiting for memory messages either

21:06 <zombie67> okay, that's a waste too

21:07 <zombie67> I will go back, turn off HT, and set cc_config to 4 manually

21:07 <PovAddict> wait

21:07 <PovAddict> try restarting the boinc client

21:07 <zombie67> I am running benchmarks

21:07 <PovAddict> k

21:08 <zombie67> btw, I am turning HT on/off via bios, so that means rebooting every time

21:08 <zombie67> it said number of CPUs: 4

21:08 <zombie67> quitting/restarting now

21:10 <zombie67> restart messages says it found 8

21:10 <jasong1> When Sony admitted that NVIDIA chips caused "distorted video," does that include the video freezing for a few seconds while the audio keeps going?  I'd always assumed it was simply because the graphics card sucked, but now I wonder

21:10 <zombie67> ding!  running 8

21:11 <zombie67> now I am going to try going back to my original plan

21:11 <zombie67> turn off HT, run only 4 tasks

21:14 <zombie67> brb

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21:21 <zombie67> yep same problem

21:22 <zombie67> start up message said it found 4 CPUs, but ran 8 anyway

21:22 <zombie67> setting the ncpus to 4 fixed it

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21:42 <CoderForLife> gn all

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23:46 <zombie67> http://imgur.com/6zjNO.jpg

23:47 <PovAddict> is that all over the net or what?

23:48 <zombie67> yeah

23:51 <efc> Hehe, go out with a bang!

23:57 <zombie67> http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/forum_thread.php?id=7508&nowrap=true#98525

23:57 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/lbqsjk> (at einstein.phys.uwm.edu)

23:59 <PovAddict> meh

23:59 <zombie67> yeah yeah "I don't like GPU crunching"

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