IRC logs of #boinc for Friday, 2009-08-21

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00:16 <PovAddict> zombie67: do you have a link to a workunit in alpha?

00:23 <zombie67> nope

00:23 <zombie67> they won't let me look

00:23 <PovAddict> not even on your own hosts?

00:23 <zombie67>

00:23 <Romulus> <> (at

00:24 <PovAddict> yes, I know that gives 'function disabled'

00:24 <PovAddict> but I thought maybe it worked for your own hosts

00:24 <PovAddict> what about tasks for your user instead of host, or pending credits?

00:24 <zombie67> nope and nope

00:24 <PovAddict> dammit

00:24 <PovAddict> I just need a valid WUID

00:24 <zombie67> no link for pending credits to click on

00:24 <zombie67> I know

00:25 <PovAddict>

00:25 <Romulus> Title: Unable to handle request (at

00:26 <zombie67> makes me curious and suspicious at the same time

00:26 <PovAddict>

00:26 <Romulus> <> (at

00:26 <zombie67> I am crunching units, and no change in credits

00:26 <zombie67> can't find workunit

00:26 <PovAddict> I don't even know what order of magnitude to try...

00:27 <zombie67> I can't tell if my WUs are erroring out, waiting for validation, or what

00:27 <PovAddict> wonder if WU ID is sent to clients nowadays...

00:28 <zombie67> wow

00:28 <zombie67> comutation errors

00:28 <zombie67> on my 8-way xp64

00:28 <PovAddict> what's the app name?

00:28 <zombie67> PyMW - Master Worker Computing in Python 1.03

00:29 <PovAddict> nice

00:29 <PovAddict> I could make a mess now :)

00:29 <zombie67> please do

00:30 <PovAddict> I'm legally allowed to throw a tantrum about this

00:30 <PovAddict> check your project directory for alpha, the download directory of the project, or the project website, for any mention of that app's source code...

00:32 <zombie67> source code??

00:32 <zombie67> I could zip it and send it to you.

00:33 <PovAddict> the app is GPL

00:33 <PovAddict> being GPL, they are supposed to credit the authors, and anyone who receives binaries should either receive source code or a written promise to get it if they ask for it

00:34 <PovAddict> if they don't, copyright holders can complain

00:34 <PovAddict> I'm one of the two copyright holders

00:36 <zombie67> can your email take a 13mb message?

00:37 <PovAddict> should be able to

00:37 <PovAddict> otherwise or similar

00:37 <Romulus> Title: - The Place for Your Files (at

00:39 <zombie67>

00:39 <PovAddict> anyway, the chance that they took any effort to follow the GPL...

00:40 <zombie67> did you get it?

00:41 <PovAddict> yes

00:42 <PovAddict> so you say they're all crashing?

00:46 <zombie67> on my xp64 machine

00:46 <zombie67> yes

00:47 <zombie67> no idea abot any of the other machines, or my linux64 machine

00:47 <zombie67> I just got lucky to see that one machine before the failed tasks were uploaded

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01:06 <zombie67> pov?

01:06 <Romulus> pov is usually not got for very long, zombie67

01:07 <PovAddict> yes

01:07 <PovAddict> ?

01:07 <zombie67> when you created silly pi

01:07 <zombie67> what was your user number?

01:07 <zombie67> ah

01:07 <zombie67> I see, #1

01:07 <zombie67> was that automatic?

01:07 <zombie67> admin always = #1?

01:08 <PovAddict> no, when installing the server, there are no accounts

01:08 <PovAddict> it once happened to me with another test project...

01:08 <PovAddict> I installed the server, made my account (got ID #1), the usual ATA group joined afterwards

01:08 <zombie67> are you saying that it could be a joe-user who gets account #1?

01:08 <PovAddict> then I lost the database

01:09 <PovAddict> right after I got the project back up, one of the ATAers created an account before me, and he got #1

01:09 <PovAddict> I think it was Tank_Master

01:10 <PovAddict> I had #2

01:10 <PovAddict> account IDs are incremental

01:10 <PovAddict> (with the exception of SETI which had extra mess because of SETI classic user IDs)

01:11 <PovAddict> admins have ID #1 just because usually they create their account before anyone else even knows about the project

01:11 <zombie67> I am not getting any response from RSA or pivevolvr

01:12 <PovAddict> well, he may not see the PMs

01:12 <zombie67> yeah, especially since email notifications work <10% of the time

01:13 <PovAddict> *I think* email notifications for PMs are off by default

01:13 <zombie67> yeah, that too

01:13 <PovAddict> and Linux systems don't have a mailserver until the admin makes it so :)

01:13 <zombie67> as an admin, is it possible to do all your work without ever visiting the web site?

01:14 <PovAddict> well, I find server_status.php kinda hard to live without...

01:15 <PovAddict> is this you? 2002:1882:fed4:0:219:e3ff:fe66:7dbb

01:18 <zombie67> is that me what?

01:19 <PovAddict> to add your IP to the list of people allowed to see _ops :)

01:20 <zombie67> that's not an ip address.

01:20 <PovAddict> it is, IPv6

01:21 <zombie67> well, since only macs seem to be using ipv6, it may be me

01:53 <zombie67> so, do you get to cause a stink?

01:53 <PovAddict> I'll start by complaining about what you're complaining

01:53 <zombie67> can't see tasks?

01:54 <PovAddict> what is this new app about? it's crashing... and also, can't see tasks on the website... what's going on?

01:54 <zombie67> complain how?

01:54 <zombie67> they don't read the forum AT ALL

01:54 <PovAddict> boinc_alpha mailing list, or email DA

01:54 <PovAddict> I didn't even THINK about the project forum, I know how abandoned it is

01:55 <zombie67> have fun with that

01:57 <zombie67> DA responds to you, because he knows what an awesome asset you are....and you are RIGHT 99.9999% of the time.

01:58 <zombie67>

01:58 <zombie67> working

01:58 <Romulus> <> (at

01:58 <zombie67> but cannot upload anything

01:58 <PovAddict> error?

01:59 <zombie67> oh sure

01:59 <zombie67> now all of a sudden

01:59 <zombie67> my 100+ tasks are uploading

01:59 <PovAddict> zombie67: vie 21 ago 2009 02:59:36 ART|BOINC alpha test|Message from server: Project is temporarily shut down for maintenance

02:00 <zombie67> heh

02:00 <zombie67> brb

02:02 <zombie67> back

02:02 <zombie67> what timezone is this guy in?

02:03 <PovAddict> who?

02:03 <zombie67> whoever is doing this python stuff on alpha

02:03 <PovAddict> well, I think only David and Rom have server access

02:03 <PovAddict> and well, you never know...

02:04 <zombie67> rom doing python?  that doesn't sound right

02:04 <zombie67> i smell 3rd party

02:04 <PovAddict> I mean they have access to that server

02:04 <PovAddict> Rom is the main person who admins BOINC's Trac, for sure

02:05 <PovAddict> and =

02:05 <zombie67> i assume that DA manages alpha

02:05 <PovAddict> yep

02:05 <PovAddict> and who knows, he could be connecting remotely from the hotel where he's staying during a distributed computing conference in an exotic city :D

02:05 <PovAddict> could be any timezone

02:05 <zombie67> any time it is talked about, he uses the first person

02:09 <zombie67> makes me feel all warm inside my tax dollars are paying for this....NOT

02:16 <zombie67> damn cute!

02:16 <zombie67>

02:16 <Romulus> <> (at

02:20 <zombie67> 6.10 fails to run

02:24 <PovAddict> and this one?

02:24 <Romulus> <> (at

02:24 <PovAddict> that's a *toothbrush*

02:24 <zombie67> fragile creature

02:29 <zombie67>

02:29 <Romulus> <> (at

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03:59 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

03:59 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 71.9F / 22.2C | Humidity: 83% | Pressure: 29.54in / 1000.2hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Overnight - Partly cloudy with a chance of showers and thunderstorms. Lows in the mid 60s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.; Friday - Partly sunny. A chance of showers and thunderstorms... (1 more message)

03:59 <CoderForLife> &more

03:59 <Romulus> CoderForLife: mainly in the morning. Highs in the lower 80s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 40 percent.; Friday Night - Partly cloudy. A chance of showers...mainly in the evening. Lows around 60. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.;

04:00 <efc> &wx 31088

04:00 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 76F / 25C | Humidity: 95% | Pressure: 29.97in / 1015hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h ; Today - Chance of showers and thunderstorms in the morning... then showers and thunderstorms likely in the afternoon. Highs in the upper 80s. Southwest winds 5 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 70 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a chance of (1 more message)

04:00 <efc> &more

04:00 <Romulus> efc: showers and thunderstorms in the evening...then a slight chance of showers and thunderstorms after midnight. Lows in the lower 70s. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 40 percent.; Saturday - Partly sunny in the morning then becoming mostly sunny with a 20 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Highs around 90. West winds 10 to 15 mph.;

04:01 <CoderForLife> moo

04:09 <efc> moo

04:10 <CoderForLife> how are you?

04:11 <efc> how to answer

04:11 <efc> The lottery is the only hope

04:17 <efc> I'll take your suggestions for winning numbers

04:18 <CoderForLife> you think my suggestions are better than anything you can come up with?

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04:19 <efc> I know you have connections

04:20 <CoderForLife> ah

04:22 * CoderForLife uses his connections

04:22 <CoderForLife> I think a winning set of numbers is 4-5-26-37 and 56 - seemed to work on Tuesday

04:23 <CoderForLife> with a dash of 25 for the Mega Ball

04:24 <efc> those had better be wrong cuz I'm not going to play

04:24 <CoderForLife> they were perfect last Tuesday

04:24 <efc> Timing is everything

04:25 <CoderForLife> and here I thought is was location-location-location

04:25 <efc> When cheating at lotteries, its timing

04:27 * CoderForLife adjusts his watch

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04:46 <timmy2k4> rechenkraft down?

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05:14 <CoderForLife> was that a question or a statement?

05:15 <KathrynM> ugh.  dinner out with the cow-orkers tonight :/

05:15 <CoderForLife> what did you do to get that penalty?

05:16 <CoderForLife> can't you just send in money instead?

05:17 <CoderForLife> sorta like a traffic ticket - can you mail it in, or do you have to make a court appearance?

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05:25 <CoderForLife> to -w@#% - laterz

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06:31 <hawmps> 'lo

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07:21 * TheGasGiant wonders in

07:21 <TheGasGiant> &weather ymml

07:21 <Romulus> TheGasGiant: Temperature: 45°F / 7°C | Humidity: 52% | Pressure: 29.71in / 1006hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 15mph / 24km/h | Updated: 9:00 PM EST; Chance of Rain. High:57 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:42 F.; Overcast. High:57 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:42 F.; Chance of Rain. High:55 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:48 F.;

07:30 <hawmps> 'lo Paul

07:30 <hawmps> &wx 12020

07:30 <Romulus> hawmps: Temperature: 76.0F / 24.4C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.60in / 1002.3hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Haze | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers with a slight chance of thunderstorms this morning...then showers with thunderstorms likely this afternoon. Some thunderstorms may produce gusty winds and heavy rainfall this afternoon. Highs (2 more messages)

07:31 <hawmps> &more

07:31 <Romulus> hawmps: in the mid 80s. South winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 80 percent.; Tonight - Showers. Thunderstorms likely...mainly in the evening. Some thunderstorms may produce gusty winds and heavy rainfall in the evening. Some thunderstorms may produce heavy rainfall after midnight. Humid with lows in the lower 70s. South winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 80 percent.; Saturday - Showers with a (1 more message)

07:31 <hawmps> &more

07:31 <Romulus> hawmps: chance of thunderstorms. Some thunderstorms may produce heavy rainfall. Humid with highs in the upper 70s. South winds around 5 mph. Chance of rain 80 percent.;

07:31 <TheGasGiant> Heya Jay

07:31 <hawmps> 6.10.0 optimized built.. this should be interesting...

07:32 <TheGasGiant> using the stock 6.10.0...any need for an optimised build?

07:35 <hawmps> checking to see if it can even see cuda 2.3 in Nv 190.13 drivers

07:35 <hawmps> other than the exec is much smaller.

07:36 <TheGasGiant> i see.  Atleast it detects ATI cards :)

07:37 <hawmps> something isn't working right..

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08:08 <quail> evening all, how is everyone?

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08:25 * CoderForLife peeks in from w@#%

08:25 <CoderForLife> yikeoids - TGG's back

08:26 <CoderForLife> greetings TheGasGiant

08:26 <CoderForLife> hello quail

08:26 <CoderForLife> hi hawmps

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08:27 * CoderForLife waits patiently

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08:29 <CoderForLife> and hello wdsmia_w

08:32 * CoderForLife continues waiting, a little less patiently

08:33 <wdsmia_w> mornin Don

08:33 <CoderForLife> it's about f.. oh hi, doug

08:34 <CoderForLife> I was about to wander off in seach of intelligent life

08:34 <wdsmia_w> takes a few min to load all the screens and start the morning diags

08:35 <CoderForLife> I've sent hellos to TheGasGiant, quail and hawmps as well - nothing heard =)

08:35 * CoderForLife starts dreaming up conspiracy theories

08:36 * wdsmia_w is allways the last to know

08:36 <CoderForLife> it's on a need-to-know basis

08:36 <CoderForLife> how's life at the bottom of the info chain?

08:37 <wdsmia_w> it will be better once I go get a cup of coffee

08:38 <CoderForLife> I feel like I'm working in a meat locker

08:38 <CoderForLife> hands are cold and this hook really bugs me

08:41 * CoderForLife looks at the topic of his next beat^H^H^H^Hmeeting

08:41 <hawmps> nope.. something is still broken in 6.10

08:41 <quail> someone tried to divide by 0 on the laptop =>

08:41 <Romulus> <> (at

08:41 <quail> CoderForLife: hii! Don, how are you mate?

08:42 <quail> s/the/there

08:42 <CoderForLife> next meeting is titled "H1N1 Overview and IT Preparations"

08:42 <quail> huh?

08:43 <CoderForLife> I guess I'll find out if they expect me to be a survivor or not

08:43 <wdsmia_w> my next meeting is titled DPS charge table and the courts... want to trade?

08:44 <hawmps> strange..

08:44 <CoderForLife> um - no  =)

08:44 <hawmps> proc usage goes to 100%

08:44 <CoderForLife> I need to finish up here before the entertainment begins - laterz

08:47 <desti>

08:47 <Romulus> Title: Hive Rise (at

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11:03 <yomshleeshee> o_O

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11:58 <quail> would you drive this bomb?

11:58 <Romulus> <> (at

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12:43 <PovAddict> &boincerr -108

12:43 <Romulus> PovAddict: fopen() failed

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12:49 <hawmps> fyi pov - 6.10 is fubar in linux.

12:52 <PovAddict> I stopped caring at 6.4 or so :P

12:52 <PovAddict> and it's disgusting to see what David did to support ATI

12:52 <PovAddict> he basically *duplicated* all the CUDA code, replacing 'cuda' with 'ati'

13:18 <hawmps> one kickass tstorm going on....

13:19 <quail> morning ladies

13:19 <quail> how is everyone?

13:20 * yomshleeshee is not a lady, but is doing well.

13:20 <quail> yomshleeshee: PovAddict bitching like one :-P

13:20 <quail> hehe

13:20 <yomshleeshee> lol

13:20 <PovAddict> hush

13:21 <quail> hey Pov

13:24 <quail> what we all been up too

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13:40 <wdsmia> re-hi

13:41 <quail> wdsmia: hii!

13:42 <wdsmia> *lo q

13:42 <quail> wdsmia: how are you Doug?

13:42 <wdsmia> not bad its Friday and I took the afternoon off

13:43 <quail> :-)

13:45 <wdsmia> brb

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14:08 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

14:08 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 62.9F / 17.2C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 29.88in / 1011.7hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Light Drizzle | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 8.0mph / 12.9km/h ; Rest of Today - Cloudy. Numerous light showers and isolated thunderstorms early in the afternoon...then scattered light showers late in the afternoon. High in the upper 60s. Northwest wind around 15 mph with gusts to around (1 more message)

14:08 <wdsmia> &more

14:08 <Romulus> wdsmia: 25 mph. Chance of precipitation 70 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy in the evening then becoming partly cloudy. Low in the lower 50s. Northwest wind 5 to 15 mph.; Saturday - Sunny. High in the mid 70s. North wind around 5 mph.;

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14:13 <quail> &wx ypad

14:13 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 44°F / 7°C | Humidity: 92% | Pressure: 29.76in / 1008hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h | Updated: 3:00 AM CST; Clear. High:69 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:50 F.; Chance of Rain. High:62 F.; Overcast. Low:48 F.; Chance of Rain. High:66 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:50 F.;

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14:15 <FreeLarry58> dang it all - anyone know what service and commands for linux to resolve a - cant resolve hostname error

14:16 <FreeLarry58> seems like the windows machine can communicate and all using the same modem

14:16 <FreeLarry58> tried a shutdown and restart of boinc but didn't help

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14:18 <quail> FreeLarry58: look at resolv.cong

14:19 <quail> resolv.conf

14:19 <FreeLarry58> in boinc directory?

14:20 <quail> in /etc/resolv.conf

14:20 <FreeLarry58> let me try

14:21 <quail> that file should have name servers in it

14:21 <quail> ie dns

14:21 <FreeLarry58> ugg

14:22 <FreeLarry58> would that be home/dns?

14:22 <quail> depends on your setup

14:23 <FreeLarry58> i think its just default setup

14:23 <quail> mine all goes via home dns

14:23 <FreeLarry58> forgot how to get to root

14:23 <quail> su or sudo

14:24 <FreeLarry58> oh thats great forgot the root password too

14:25 <quail> o.0

14:25 <wdsmia> rofl

14:26 <PovAddict> with sudo, you have to type your *user* password

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14:29 <FreeLarry> dang it too many windows open and it shut some down on me when i went to router

14:30 <FreeLarry> anyway quail ssh is set to that machine

14:30 <FreeLarry> 24-113-123-29 is the ip that mirc showing for me

14:30 <FreeLarry> other ip is the machine i gave you

14:31 <PovAddict> oh let me see if I have root access there

14:31 <FreeLarry> you should PovAddict you helped set it up

14:31 <PovAddict> yup

14:31 <FreeLarry> and you have some files on it too

14:32 <PovAddict> no DNS servers configured

14:32 <PovAddict> I have a ton of files there, I was working on copying them to my machine (now that I have 1TB disk) but it was taking forever

14:32 <FreeLarry> ahh thats it - had a 2 hour power outage last night so dns didn't restart on that machine

14:33 <PovAddict> does your router provide DNS?

14:33 <FreeLarry> humm normally use my isp's for dns - not sure if router does it or not

14:34 <FreeLarry> isp's dns servers and

14:35 <quail> FreeLarry58: the password or account you give me will not log me in

14:35 * FreeLarry hangs head in shame and admits to not knowing how to set in ssh only in graphic mode and that machine deadheaded

14:35 <quail> PovAddict: that what I trying to login and check out

14:36 <PovAddict> I added the router's IP as nameserver, seems to be working

14:36 <PovAddict> well, Google resolves

14:36 <FreeLarry> povs already in quail

14:36 <FreeLarry> k let me check

14:36 <quail> FreeLarry58: it cool, we get you through it

14:36 <quail> FreeLarry58: ok I will leave it to PovAddict then

14:36 <FreeLarry> yup PovAddict its sent the work units in already

14:36 <FreeLarry> thanks for assist quai

14:37 <FreeLarry> quail

14:37 <quail> FreeLarry: np, yw

14:38 <FreeLarry> well time for me to go give the wife some time - she got home early from her trip

14:38 <FreeLarry> tca

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14:38 <quail> FreeLarry: np ttys

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18:09 <CoderForLife> it must be Friday

18:10 <Rookie_69> I finally book a week off and what's the first thing on the agenda? Survive Hurricane Bob.

18:11 <Rookie_69> Go finger.

18:12 * CoderForLife holds up the finger for Rookie_69

18:12 <Rookie_69> TY.

18:13 <CoderForLife> I aim to please

18:14 <Rookie_69> Oh... The wife has you toilet trained?

18:15 <CoderForLife> I've tried the feet

18:15 <PovAddict> hmph

18:15 <PovAddict> I need to code faster, or have a bigger music collection

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18:17 * CoderForLife tries the new BP meter

18:17 <PovAddict> &wtf BP

18:17 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: I couldn't find the wtf command on this system.  If it is installed on this system, reconfigure the configuration variable appropriately.

18:17 <CoderForLife> sounds like an air hammer

18:18 <CoderForLife> BP=Blood Pressure in Coder Acronym Speak

18:18 <PovAddict> oic

18:18 <PovAddict> being young has some advantages, I guess...

18:18 * Rookie_69 was thinking British Petroleum.

18:21 * Rookie_69 would rather not know where that BP was.

18:22 <CoderForLife> Went to the dentist today

18:22 <CoderForLife> they couldn't clean my teeth

18:22 <Rookie_69> Forgot them at home?

18:22 <Rookie_69> Lol.

18:22 <CoderForLife> because I asked my doctor is there was any prep needed before going to the dentist

18:22 <CoderForLife> he said no

18:23 <CoderForLife> but they called him, and he said I should stop taking the blood thinner 3 days before a cleaning

18:23 <CoderForLife> he could have told me that and saved me the hassle

18:24 <Rookie_69> What?!? ... and spoil all the fun?

18:25 <CoderForLife> because the dentist looked in my mouth, that cost me $41

18:25 <CoderForLife> grr

18:26 <CoderForLife> now I'm scheduled for mid-November

18:26 <Rookie_69> Remember... no aspirin or rat killer for three days before appointment.

18:28 <CoderForLife> got it - I asked, and didn't get the information needed

18:28 <CoderForLife>  coming attractions

18:28 <Romulus> Title:  (at

18:29 <CoderForLife> 12/18/2009

18:29 <CoderForLife> 01/01/2010 for PovAddict

18:30 <PovAddict> movie?

18:30 <Romulus> Rumor has it movie is called igby goes down, PovAddict

18:30 <PovAddict> no it's not

18:30 <CoderForLife> yup  Avatar

18:30 <PovAddict> forget movie

18:30 <Romulus> Got it!

18:30 <CoderForLife> 12/17/2009 for quail

18:31 <CoderForLife> looks like Canada got ranked as the 51th-57th U.S. States, per Obama

18:32 <PovAddict> took so long to load that I expected the full trailer movie was loading...

18:32 <PovAddict> guess not

18:33 <PovAddict> clicking View Trailer redirects me back to the same page :|

18:33 <CoderForLife> it is the first full trailer

18:33 <PovAddict> I mean it took forever to load and then just blinked some lights and showed a menu with two options

18:33 <PovAddict> and music

18:34 <CoderForLife> the link has changed since this morning

18:34 <Rookie_69> I saw some trailer, but it was broken up. Need better box...

18:34 <CoderForLife> click view trailer

18:34 <PovAddict> tried Firefox, clicking View Trailer takes me to a page just saying "AVATAR"

18:35 <PovAddict> no Flash in it

18:35 <Rookie_69> ... or faster connection

18:38 <Rookie_69> &wx yaw

18:38 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Temperature: 64.8°F / 18.2°C | Humidity: 99% | Pressure: 30.06in / 1017.8hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 5.3mph / 8.5km/h | Updated: 7:38 PM ADT; Tonight - A few clouds. Increasing cloudiness this evening with 40 percent chance of drizzle overnight. Fog spreading inland. Wind south 20 km/h (12 mph). Low 19C(66F).; Saturday - A mix of sun and cloud. 40 (2 more messages)

18:38 <Rookie_69> &more

18:38 <Romulus> Rookie_69: percent chance of drizzle in the morning. Fog retreating to the coast. Wind southwest 30 km/h (19 mph) gusting to 50 km/h (31 mph). High 28C(82F) except 22C(72F) along the coast. UV index 8 or very high. Saturday night cloudy periods. Becoming cloudy near midnight with 40 percent chance of showers overnight. Fog spreading inland. Wind southwest 30 km/h (19 mph) becoming light in the (1 more message)

18:38 <Rookie_69> &more

18:38 <Romulus> Rookie_69: evening. Wind becoming east 20 overnight. Low 19C(66F).; Sunday - Rain. Windy. High 21C(70F).;

18:39 <CoderForLife> gee - sorry about the troubles with the link - works for me

18:39 <Rookie_69> Sunday - Rain. Windy... That's called Hurricane Bob.

18:40 <CoderForLife> that was a Microsoft product, right?

18:41 <PovAddict> Microsoft Bob is the canonical example of a product failure

18:45 <Rookie_69> Hmm... It appears that that windbag Bob pushed a fog bank up our way... It's like pea soup outside.

18:46 <CoderForLife> are we back on the topic of my aim?

18:47 <Rookie_69> Do we want to be?

18:47 <CoderForLife> I'm asking you - you brought it up

18:49 <Rookie_69>

18:49 <Romulus> <> (at

18:49 <CoderForLife> what's that target symbol over Halifax?

18:50 <Rookie_69> That's where you're supposed to aim...

18:51 <CoderForLife> as if my name were Bob

18:51 <Rookie_69> Print out the graphic and float it in the toilet and pee on Rookie!

18:52 <CoderForLife> are we back on the topic of my aim?

18:52 <Rookie_69> Apparently.

18:52 * CoderForLife continues working on his Bills while Rookie worries about his Bob

18:54 <Rookie_69> Bills are easy... Just ignore any that don't say final notice.

18:55 <freakazoid0223> &wx 19020

18:56 <Romulus> freakazoid0223: Temperature: 74.3F / 23.5C | Humidity: 84% | Pressure: 29.85in / 1010.7hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - A chance of showers this evening...then showers and thunderstorms likely after midnight. Lows in the lower 70s. South winds around 5 mph. Chance of rain 70 percent.; Saturday - Showers and thunderstorms (2 more messages)

18:56 <freakazoid0223> &more

18:56 <Romulus> freakazoid0223: likely. Locally heavy rainfall possible. Humid with highs in the mid 80s. South winds around 5 mph. Chance of rain 70 percent.; Saturday Night - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers...with thunderstorms possible in the evening. Lows in the upper 60s. East winds around 5 mph...becoming northwest after midnight. Chance of rain 50 percent.; Flash Flood Watch for Bucks County in effect (1 more message)

18:56 <freakazoid0223> &more

18:56 <Romulus> freakazoid0223: until 12:00 PM EDT on August 22, 2009; Special Weather Statement for Bucks County in effect until 7:30 PM EDT on August 21, 2009;

18:56 * CoderForLife correlates medical bills against insurance statements and health savings account charges

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19:10 <CoderForLife> I hear the Canadian medical system is the envy of the free world

19:12 <Rookie_69> Everything is covered... unless it costs something.

19:13 <CoderForLife> I guess if you get sick, it's good to be close to the U.S.

19:13 <Rookie_69> That's where the Insirance companies rape in their millions... Did I say that out loud?

19:13 <PovAddict> &quotegrabs search kiss

19:13 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: No quotegrabs matching "kiss"

19:13 <PovAddict> really?

19:14 <CoderForLife> you're asking me?

19:14 <Rookie_69> Apparently, my tongue is tangled up with my fingers.

19:14 <PovAddict> <Rookie_69> I got a letter from my insurance company the other day stating that they might be willing to let me off with just a hearty squeeze of the testicles instead of my usual annual raping...  I just gotta go in and kiss some a** first. I plan on puckering up tomorrow.

19:14 <Rookie_69> I did.

19:14 <CoderForLife> I hate it when my tang gets all tungled up

19:14 <Rookie_69> Yup.

19:15 <CoderForLife> or when my tongue gets over my eye teeth and I can't see what I'm saying

19:15 * CoderForLife moves the IRC window so he can work in the HSA journal

19:16 <Rookie_69> Home Squatters Anonymous?

19:18 <CoderForLife> my Health Savings Account - a tax-free account for payinh health expenses - the envy of the free world

19:18 <CoderForLife> er paying

19:19 <PovAddict> tax-free?

19:19 <PovAddict> a box of $100 bills?

19:19 <PovAddict> eh, guess there are taxes on that too

19:19 <CoderForLife> a deduction from my paycheck before taxes

19:19 <Rookie_69> The power has gone off here twice so far this week. They blamed the first one on a raccoon trying to use insulation as bedding... I wonder what they'll blame the second one on?

19:19 <PovAddict> Rookie_69: probably you don't want to know

19:20 <CoderForLife> raccoon dental care

19:20 <PovAddict> what if it's something like...

19:20 <Romulus> Title: Ctrl+Alt+Del (at

19:20 <Rookie_69> I'm sure it has nothing to do with 30 year old wiring trying to carry twice the rated load...

19:22 <CoderForLife> no wonder we only permit DC-to-DC connections between the countries at Niagra Falls

19:22 <Rookie_69> Tesla fixed that one, didn't he?

19:23 <Rookie_69> 32 hertz... or something.

19:23 <CoderForLife> that's what Tesla wanted and I think the connections between the U.S. and Canada are DC-only

19:23 <CoderForLife> DC=0 hertz

19:24 <CoderForLife> no need to sync the grids

19:24 <Rookie_69> DC= lotsa hurts.

19:24 <Rookie_69> ... if you get tangled in it.

19:24 <CoderForLife> yeah, no RMS drag on power to save you

19:25 <Rookie_69> It doesn't throw you flying... it just fries you.

19:25 <CoderForLife>

19:25 <Romulus> Title: Root mean square - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at

19:26 <CoderForLife> AC delivers less power due to varying amplitudes than DC

19:26 <CoderForLife> per unit time

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19:39 <Rookie_69> It's twenty of nine and I seem to be spending more time staring at my slippers than at my screen, so I guess it's time to say goodnight.

19:40 <Rookie_69> Goodnight.

19:40 <CoderForLife> if you're presented with a choice, all other things being equal, grab the AC wire and not the DC wire

19:40 <CoderForLife> gn Rookie_69

19:40 <Rookie_69> I concur.

19:40 <Rookie_69> NN.

19:40 <PovAddict> DC makes you grab

19:40 <PovAddict> AC pushes you away... or so I heard

19:40 <CoderForLife> I know AC feels like a snake bite

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19:41 <CoderForLife> depends on the voltage and current

19:41 <CoderForLife> I saw I guy get on 3000V AC - blew him across the room

19:41 <PovAddict> better stay away of anything > 12v

19:42 <PovAddict> a friend of my dad works with UPSs...

19:42 <CoderForLife> I'm been on 110V a could of times

19:42 <CoderForLife> er couple

19:42 <PovAddict> he said that once a technician there set his clothes on fire

19:42 * CoderForLife stares at his fingers

19:43 <CoderForLife> I used to w@#% for the local power company

19:44 <CoderForLife> seen some bad stuff, heard about worse

20:10 <CoderForLife> and on that happy note - gn all

20:10 <wdsmia> NN Don

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20:52 <wdsmia> upgrading the warp core on enterprize seem to have worked RAC up over 500 points already :)

22:45 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

22:45 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 63.9F / 17.7C | Humidity: 80% | Pressure: 29.97in / 1014.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Mostly clear. Cooler. Low in the lower 50s. Northwest wind around 5 mph.; Saturday - Sunny. High in the mid 70s. North wind around 5 mph.; Saturday Night - Clear. Low in the lower 50s. East wind around 5 (1 more message)

22:45 <wdsmia> &more

22:45 <Romulus> wdsmia: mph shifting to the southeast up to 5 mph after midnight.;

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