IRC logs of #boinc for Tuesday, 2009-09-01

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04:33 <efc> moo cfl

04:36 <ix> Is the boinc client able to do DNS requests through a proxy connection?

04:36 <ix> And, more specifically, TCP DNS requests?

04:36 <efc> I think so..

04:37 <efc> I don't know how it could work if it didn't

04:37 * ix is trying to hook the client up to the internet via a SSH dunamic port forwarding

04:37 <ix> s/dunamic/dynamic

04:38 <efc> It should, but you know how it goes, the more layers you add..

04:38 <ix> Yeah...

04:38 <ix> These machines aren't supposed to be connected to the internet

04:38 <ix> This seemed like the easiest way out, so to speak

04:39 <ix> I've tried socksifying it via the dante-client package in debian, but then it had issues binding to the GUI port

04:40 <efc> Haven't used socks in forever (if ever)

04:40 <ix> :-D

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06:01 <MTughan_> ix: Do the options in Advanced Mode, then Advanced->Options not help you?

06:01 <MTughan_> I see configuration settings for HTTP and SOCKS proxies.

06:02 <ix> I have to use the command line client.

06:02 <ix> I am automating an install for some diskless clients.

06:02 <ix> :)

06:02 <MTughan_> Although (I would think) if the the system is set up for a proxy, BOINC would use that.

06:03 <ix> Yeah, but it doesn't seem to be happy about the DNS requests not being answered locally... Might be that it wants to do UDP lookups via the SSH "proxy", which doesn't support them.

06:05 <ix> Right now I'm having enough issues just upgrading them to lenny, but I will have a look at this later tonight, I think,

06:05 <ix> .

06:45 <hawmps> 'lo

06:46 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

06:46 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 48.8F / 9.3C | Humidity: 95% | Pressure: 30.29in / 1025.6hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. High in the lower 70s. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Low in the lower 50s. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph.; Wednesday - Partly sunny. High in the mid 70s. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph.;

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07:51 <hawmps> EBay to sell Skype to private investors..

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08:22 <quail> w0w, 3g bit slow

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10:49 <PovAddict> I didnt even know/remember ebay owned skype

10:56 <hawmps> seems so..

11:02 <PovAddict> ix: BOINC doesn't use proxies or do DNS requests

11:02 <PovAddict> ix: it just tells libcurl "go download from this URL"

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11:03 <ix> PovAddict: Yeah, I figured that after reading up a bit.

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11:14 <zombie67> MT?

11:14 <zombie67>

11:14 <Romulus> <> (at

11:14 <zombie67> is there a way to upgrade my efi FW to 64 bit?

11:20 <PovAddict> interesting

11:20 <PovAddict> I think the fact isn't that the 64-bit kernel is faster than 32-bit

11:21 <PovAddict> but that there is significant overhead in switching the CPU to 32-bit mode when running kernel code and back to 64-bit mode when running 64-bit app code

11:22 <Tank_Master> what about having acess to all th 64bit goodness, like the larger memory address and added registers? can the 64bit apps access those when the kernel is 32bit?

11:22 <PovAddict> apparently so

11:22 <PovAddict> it surprises me, really...

11:23 <zombie67> Even if you cannot or do not boot the Mac OS X Snow Leopard kernel into 64-bit mode, you can run your 64-bit apps as 64-bit, and they can take advantage of all the memory in the machine. This was/is possible even with Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard.

11:23 <Tank_Master> oh, and I have read that CS3 isnt supported on SnowLeopard...

11:23 <zombie67> my 8-way is so old, it has the EFI32 FW

11:23 <zombie67> And I want to know if it is upgradable to EFI64

11:24 <Tank_Master> can you upgrade the firmware?

11:24 <Tank_Master> is there BOIN updates for mac hardware?

11:24 <Tank_Master> BIOS*

11:25 <Tank_Master> man I need to wake up first :P

11:25 <PovAddict> there is no BIOS in Macs

11:25 <zombie67> I don't know.  That is why I am asking MT...

11:25 <PovAddict> there is EFI :)

11:25 <zombie67> tomato tomato

11:25 <zombie67> hmmm....that saying doesn't work when written

11:26 <Tank_Master> no, it really dont

11:26 <Tank_Master> hehe

11:28 <PovAddict> what hardware do you have?

11:28 <PovAddict> zombie67:

11:28 <Romulus> Title: EFI and SMC firmware updates for Intel-based Macs (at

11:30 <zombie67> I have the first 8-way intel, 3.0 ghz (x5365)

11:31 <PovAddict> what boot ROM version?

11:31 <Romulus> <> (at

11:32 <zombie67> yeah, it looks like I have the latest

11:32 <zombie67>   Boot ROM Version:MP21.007F.B06

11:32 <zombie67>   SMC Version (system):1.15f3

11:32 <zombie67> but I want a later version that is 64 bit.  ;)

11:33 <zombie67> but thanks for the link!

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12:15 <PovAddict> zombie67: "OS News notes that only Macs with a 64-bit EFI are able to boot the 64-bit Snow Leopard kernel and kexts; an artificial limitation imposed by Apple, even though a 32-bit EFI can boot a 64-bit kernel 'just fine'."

12:24 <zombie67> annoying

12:25 <Tank_Master> agreed

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13:57 <hawmps> &wx 12074

13:57 <Romulus> hawmps: Temperature: 71.0F / 21.7C | Humidity: 44% | Pressure: 30.28in / 1025.3hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Rest of Today - Sunny. Highs in the lower 70s. Northwest winds around 5 mph.; Tonight - Clear. Lows in the mid 40s. West winds around 5 mph in the evening...becoming light and variable.; Wednesday - Sunny. Highs in the upper 70s. (1 more message)

13:57 <hawmps> &more

13:57 <Romulus> hawmps: Light and variable winds...becoming southwest around 5 mph in the afternoon.;

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15:26 <FreeLarry58> ah well simap out of wu's it appears and some of the machines running out - time to allow other projects to run again

16:11 <quail> 'morning all, how is everyone?

16:15 <quail> &wx ypad

16:15 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 55°F / 13°C | Humidity: 58% | Pressure: 29.95in / 1014hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 15mph / 24km/h | Updated: 5:30 AM CST; Unknown. High:55 F.; Clear. Low:50 F.; Clear. High:71 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:51 F.; Chance of Rain. High:66 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:48 F.;

16:15 <yomshleeshee> alright. btw if you were the one to suggest irssi (which I thought so), thanks, i dig it.

16:16 <quail> yomshleeshee: np, yes I do irssi :-)

16:17 <yomshleeshee> yeah, that's what I thought. I like it. i mean I'm mostly in a shell anyways. pretty good.

16:17 * quail uses irssi in screen, so I can run it on the go via ssh

16:17 <yomshleeshee> nice. yeah I read about doing that

16:17 <yomshleeshee> i added bitlbee and use it for IM too

16:17 <yomshleeshee> pretty slick

16:17 <quail> :-)

16:18 <yomshleeshee> and it's free, so you can't beat that.

16:18 <quail> true :-)

16:24 <yomshleeshee> brb

16:29 <quail> k

16:30 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx sxf

16:30 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 75°F / 24°C | Humidity: 53% | Pressure: 29.80in / 1009hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h | Updated: 10:20 PM CEST; Clear. High:89 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:59 F.; Scattered Clouds. High:77 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:57 F.; Chance of a Thunderstorm. High:68 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:53 F.;

16:33 <quail> hey yoyo[RKN]

16:33 <quail> brb

16:35 <Tank_Master> &wx 97123

16:35 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 69.4F / 20.8C | Humidity: 59% | Pressure: 29.99in / 1015.5hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy in the morning...then partly sunny. Scattered showers in the morning...then a slight chance of thunderstorms in the afternoon. Highs around 80. West wind 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. A (1 more message)

16:35 <Tank_Master> &more

16:35 <Romulus> Tank_Master: slight chance of showers in the evening. Lows in the 50s. North wind 5 to 10 mph.; Wednesday - Mostly sunny. Highs 80 to 85. Light wind becoming west 5 to 10 mph in the afternoon.;

16:42 <CoderForLife> hi ho boinclanders

16:42 <CoderForLife> time for din-din here - bbiab

16:43 <Tank_Master> hf

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16:51 <quail> hiya CoderForLife

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17:10 <yomshleeshee> time to go home. later

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17:30 <CoderForLife> hello mister quail

18:12 <quail> CoderForLife: hey mate, me on 3g atm mobile :-)

18:12 <quail> so might have droppies

18:12 <quail> hehe

18:13 <quail> but got to love ssh + screen + irssi

18:14 <quail> and I am wardriving too

18:25 <CoderForLife> IRCing and wardriving is safer than TXTing and driving?

18:26 <quail> yep :-P

18:26 * quail is passenger, hehe

18:27 <quail> and I am doing some OSM stuff too

18:28 * quail heading up to the block to do some sheeting on the shed

18:28 <quail> how are things with you Mr CoderForLife

18:30 <CoderForLife> struggling with understanding the role of the data model in Core Data persistence in iPhone development - I just don't see how it gets used

18:30 * quail found an AP that is still on factory defaults

18:30 <CoderForLife> it's pretty...

18:30 <CoderForLife> but pretty useless ATM

18:32 <PovAddict> what about 'raw' sqlite?

18:32 <quail> ah

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18:38 <quail> this 3g stuff is not to bad modile

18:38 * quail has not had a droppy from my server yet

18:38 <Tank_Master> (CPU 1) Intel Core2 Extreme CPU X9750 @ 3.16GHz (12288KB L2 Cache, LGA 775) @ 4250MHz (427MHz FSB), 100% load

18:41 <quail> SysInfo: Linux 2.6.26-2-686 |  Pentium III (Coppermine) 996.692 MHz | Bogomips: 1995.64 | Mem: 443/504M [||||||||||] | Diskspace: 9.03G Free: 8.01G | Procs: 51 | Uptime: 8 days 6 hrs 36 mins 54 secs | Load: 0.00 0.00 0.00  | Screen: nVidia Corporation NV5 [RIVA TNT2/TNT2 Pro] (rev 15) | ppp0: In: 1.38G Out: 127.56M

18:41 <Tank_Master> lol, p3?

18:41 <quail> yeah

18:42 <Tank_Master> an atom would cream that thing and cost way less in power

18:42 <quail> it my firewall / gateway / router

18:42 <Tank_Master> ahh

18:43 <quail> :-)

18:43 <quail> and it a small form factor pc too, so it does not draw alot of power

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18:44 <quail> typing on the move is hard

18:45 <zombie67> pov

18:45 <quail> but the 3g connection holding up good tho

18:46 <PovAddict> ?

18:47 <quail> PovAddict: I am connected to the internet via the mobile service atm

18:47 <quail> + phone

18:47 <PovAddict> was answering zombie67

18:47 <quail> PovAddict: ah sorry

18:47 <quail> hehe

18:48 <CoderForLife> zombie67 - you have reached the party to whom you are speaking

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18:48 <zombie67> you know that project on the list, that the guy wants more users?

18:48 <zombie67> I went there, and discovered I already had an account

18:49 <zombie67> probably for a really long time

18:49 <PovAddict> heh

18:49 <zombie67> but the funky part?  I am the founder for another team

18:49 <zombie67> AMD users

18:49 <zombie67> any not a member of any team

18:49 <zombie67> very odd

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18:51 <Tank_Master> doh

18:52 <Tank_Master> to much o/c

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19:11 <zombie67> oh, and I downloaded some tasks to try them out, and they all have a due date of aug 14th.

19:11 <zombie67> all past due immediately

19:14 <Tank_Master> lol

19:14 <Tank_Master> what project?

19:14 <Romulus> I guess what project are you running, Tank_Master

19:14 <Tank_Master> forget what project

19:14 <Romulus> Gotcha.

19:15 <Tank_Master> what project?

19:15 <Tank_Master> good :P

19:15 <PovAddict>

19:15 <Romulus> <> (at

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19:56 <xcamel> re-hi

19:57 <xcamel> brb

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20:01 <CoderForLife> well I'm going to submerge into some Coding

20:01 <CoderForLife> gn all

20:06 <Tank_Master> hf

20:06 <Tank_Master> n gn

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20:28 <xcamel> killall boinc

20:28 <PovAddict> want me to?

20:29 <xcamel> still working out the bugs here

20:29 <xcamel> obviously the wrong window.

20:30 <xcamel> Tue 01 Sep 2009 08:28:56 PM EDTRunning CPU benchmarks

20:30 <xcamel> Tue 01 Sep 2009 08:28:56 PM EDTSuspending computation - running CPU benchmarks

20:30 <xcamel> Tue 01 Sep 2009 08:29:27 PM EDTBenchmark results:

20:30 <xcamel> Tue 01 Sep 2009 08:29:27 PM EDT   Number of CPUs: 4

20:30 <xcamel> Tue 01 Sep 2009 08:29:27 PM EDT   2170 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU

20:30 <xcamel> Tue 01 Sep 2009 08:29:27 PM EDT   5240 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU

20:30 <xcamel> Tue 01 Sep 2009 08:28:56 PM EDTRunning CPU benchmarks

20:30 <xcamel> Tue 01 Sep 2009 08:28:56 PM EDTSuspending computation - running CPU benchmarks

20:30 <xcamel> Tue 01 Sep 2009 08:29:27 PM EDTBenchmark results:

20:30 <xcamel> Tue 01 Sep 2009 08:29:27 PM EDT   Number of CPUs: 4

20:30 <xcamel> Tue 01 Sep 2009 08:29:27 PM EDT   2170 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU

20:30 <xcamel> Tue 01 Sep 2009 08:29:27 PM EDT   5240 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU

20:30 <MTughan_> xcamel: Might I suggest a pastebin?

20:30 <xcamel> wasn't that special...

20:30 <xcamel> no you might not..

20:31 <PovAddict> wow

20:31 <PovAddict> a deterministic computer, amazing

20:31 <PovAddict> :D

20:31 <xcamel> Tue 01 Sep 2009 08:28:56 PM EDTCUDA device: GeForce GTX 295 (driver version 0, compute capability 1.3, 896MB, est. 106GFLOPS)

20:31 <xcamel> Tue 01 Sep 2009 08:28:56 PM EDTCUDA device: GeForce GTX 295 (driver version 0, compute capability 1.3, 896MB, est. 106GFLOPS)

20:31 <PovAddict> is that line printed twice or did you mis-paste?

20:31 <xcamel> 2 gpu's

20:32 <wdsmia> any one running skype on doze dont upgrade to 4.1

20:33 <MTughan_> Why?

20:34 <PovAddict> I run skype 2.0.something on linux

20:34 <wdsmia> video is all f*** up

20:35 <wdsmia> only one person in the call can start it

20:44 <xcamel> einstein still messed up?

20:45 <xcamel> oh.. maybe not..

20:47 <yomshleeshee> actually has anyone heard of a einstein's screen saver messing up a person's wallpaper in windows (XP specifically)?

20:48 <yomshleeshee> when I bring my computer out of the einstein screen saver, my wallpaper goes away and I'm left with a blue background

20:48 <yomshleeshee> didn't start happening until I starting crunching einstein

20:48 <yomshleeshee> do have dual monitors

20:48 <yomshleeshee> quite strange

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20:52 <Tank_Master> dont use the screansaver... :D

20:53 <yomshleeshee> yeah, I might not much longer :-/

20:53 <yomshleeshee> I do like the einstein one, but I like having wallpaper more

20:53 <Tank_Master> :)

20:53 <Tank_Master> slows down the processing anyway

20:54 <yomshleeshee> true, true

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22:02 <zombie67> pov

22:03 <zombie67> <core_client_version>6.6.36</core_client_version>

22:03 <zombie67> <![CDATA[

22:03 <zombie67> <stderr_txt>

22:03 <zombie67> start crawlling..

22:03 <zombie67> robots cache hit!

22:03 <zombie67> robots cache hit!

22:03 <zombie67> over and over

22:04 <MTughan_> PovAddict: ^

22:04 <PovAddict> where?

22:04 <PovAddict> this silly project?

22:05 <zombie67>

22:05 <Romulus> <> (at

22:06 <PovAddict> crawling?

22:06 <PovAddict> how long did the task run?

22:07 <zombie67> according to the manager, this task took over 3 min, but the info here shows less than 3.

22:07 <zombie67>

22:07 <Romulus> <> (at

22:07 <PovAddict> I suspect network activity

22:07 <MTughan_> CPU time != running time

22:07 <PovAddict> should be marked non-cpu-intensive

22:08 <zombie67> what does the manager show these days?

22:08 <zombie67> CPU time, I thought

22:08 <zombie67> I know DA has changed it recently

22:08 <PovAddict> I think it was changed to elapsed time because of GPUs

22:08 <MTughan_> Should still be CPU time.

22:08 <PovAddict> otherwise with GPU apps the time would barely move

22:09 <zombie67> anywho, yeah, if it is net crawling, then it should be changed to non-cpu

22:09 <MTughan_> zombie67: Public beta of Menu Meters is available with SL compat.

22:10 <MTughan_>

22:10 <zombie67> there is a project description now

22:10 <Romulus> Title: Raging Menace (at

22:10 <zombie67> MT:  thanks.  GTK

22:10 <MTughan_> Nothing with iStat Menus yet.

22:13 <zombie67> There is a beta for istat

22:13 <MTughan_> Private or public?

22:14 <zombie67>

22:14 <Romulus> <> (at

22:15 <MTughan_> Where'd you get the link from?

22:15 <zombie67> the mac-users alias at Sun

22:15 <MTughan_> Yeah, so it's a private beta.

22:16 <zombie67>

22:16 <Romulus> Title: iStat Menus Now Running with Snow Leopard: Everything You Need to Know and More | (at

22:20 <zombie67> cya

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22:26 <jackygrahamez_> hi

22:26 <jackygrahamez_> join #boinc_dev

22:28 <Tank_Master> jack!

22:28 <Tank_Master> sup?

22:29 <jackygrahamez_> hi Tank_Master

22:29 <Tank_Master> hows the project doin?

22:31 <MTughan_> &later tell zombie67 Thanks for the iStat menus info, working great.

22:31 <jackygrahamez_> ok I got a question. I got a gpu app on linux that accepts --device m but have not managed to get boinc api integrated...wondering if I can run it through the wrapper.

22:31 <Romulus> MTughan_: I dunno.

22:31 <MTughan_> D'oh...

22:31 <jackygrahamez_> trying to compile this api integration right now

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22:55 <Tank_Master> jackygrahamez_, are you working on a GPU for all platforms?

23:01 <jackygrahamez_> no just gromacs

23:01 <jackygrahamez_> linux at the moment

23:01 <Tank_Master> er I ment all OSs

23:01 <Tank_Master> ahh, ok

23:02 <PovAddict> do the CPU apps work perfectly already?

23:02 <Tank_Master> lol

23:02 <PovAddict> and is your project doing real science?

23:02 <Tank_Master> he has 5 different apps now

23:04 <jackygrahamez_> on our good days we have 90% success

23:04 <jackygrahamez_> only use two of them

23:04 <jackygrahamez_> autodock is too big a pain to port to GPU at the moment

23:04 <jackygrahamez_> gromacs is within reach

23:05 <PovAddict> I never understood how all those apps work together for the project's goal

23:05 <jackygrahamez_> there is lots of benefit if we use gromacs because our simulations will take 10 days otherwise

23:06 <jackygrahamez_> and regarding the science, we are making proposals to work with collaborators

23:06 <jackygrahamez_> we have a workflow, that is functional for predicting the interaction of activators and inhibitors of biochemical pathways

23:07 <jackygrahamez_> with a collaboration we can compare theory and experiment

23:08 <Tank_Master> nice

23:08 <Tank_Master> sounds like you have some good work ahead of you

23:10 <jackygrahamez_> can any of you recommend an irc for linux?

23:10 <Tank_Master> chatzilla?

23:10 <Romulus> It has been said that chatzilla is a strange client, Tank_Master

23:10 <Tank_Master> forget chatzilla

23:10 <Romulus> I hear ya, Tank_Master.

23:11 <jackygrahamez_> forget Romulus

23:12 <jackygrahamez_> I'd like sto share my error messages on the boinc integration. Maybe tomorrow I'm kind of tired

23:14 <Tank_Master> gn n tc

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