IRC logs of #boinc for Sunday, 2009-09-06

00:19 <zombie67> pov?

00:19 <PovAddict> meh

00:19 <zombie67> how old is the pecevolvr server?

00:19 <PovAddict> does it say in server status?

00:20 <zombie67> http://boinc.picevolvr.com/picevolvr/server_status.php

00:20 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/r3e9ht> (at boinc.picevolvr.com)

00:20 <PovAddict> at least 17182

00:20 <zombie67> here's my Q:  For tasks, it does not give me the option of error/prnding/etc

00:21 <PovAddict> yeah probably too old to have that feature

00:21 <zombie67> so how do I explain to the admin, that he needs to upgrade?

00:22 <PovAddict> um, just do? :P

00:22 <zombie67> the best motivation would be if I could tell him that there are security reasons to do so

00:23 <zombie67> otherwise, it just makes me sound like a whiney user

00:23 <PovAddict> I don't think there are recent security issues

00:23 <PovAddict> however

00:23 <PovAddict> if a project admin doesn't upgrade frequently, then if there appears a security problem, and he *has* to upgrade, it will be a giant pain

00:24 <zombie67> point:  he is going to be offering a CUDA app

00:24 <zombie67> does he need to upgrade for that?

00:24 <PovAddict> http://boinc.picevolvr.com/picevolvr/apps.php he has plan class stuff

00:24 <Romulus> Title: Applications (at boinc.picevolvr.com)

00:25 <Tank_Master> hell need an upgrade for ATI app, wont he?

00:25 <PovAddict> (newer versions of the server remove that column from apps.php since it was kinda useless for users)

00:25 <PovAddict> Tank_Master: definitely

00:25 <Tank_Master> so for future proofing, he should upgrade...

00:25 <PovAddict> zombie67: he doesn't *need* to upgrade for CUDA, but it'll probably work better if he does

00:25 <zombie67> I am not hearing any compelling reasons

00:25 <PovAddict> there were recent GPU-related server changes *apart* from ATI

00:25 <Tank_Master> that way should he decide to make a CAL app...

00:31 <zombie67> how much work is it to upgrade?

00:31 <PovAddict> harder the more out-of-date you are and the less frequently you do it

00:33 <zombie67> kinda vague

00:38 <Tank_Master> the farther between upgrade, the accumilated changes make for just that meny more thing that can go wrong

00:41 <PovAddict> he should upgrade apache while he's at it :P

00:42 <PovAddict> not php though; BOINC isn't compatible with 5.3.0

00:42 <zombie67> ugh, i give up

00:42 <PovAddict> zombie67: tell him to give me the password and I'll upgrade

00:42 <PovAddict> ;)

00:42 <Tank_Master> lol

00:43 <PovAddict> muahahahaha

00:43 <Tank_Master> can you hack it anyway? :P

00:43 <Tank_Master> cant*

00:43 <PovAddict> probably

00:43 <PovAddict> http://boinc.picevolvr.com/picevolvr_ops/ start guessing

00:43 <Tank_Master> cannot display page

00:44 <PovAddict> asks for a password here

00:44 <PovAddict> and I don't think it's "password"

00:44 <Tank_Master> abcd?

00:44 <Tank_Master> ahh, refreshed the page and got the pw prompt

00:45 <Tank_Master> heh, its a non secure connection to

00:45 <PovAddict> SSL costs money

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00:46 <Tank_Master> Warning: This server is requesting that your UN abd PW be sent in an unsecured manner (basic authentication without a secure connection)

00:46 <Tank_Master> and*

00:47 <PovAddict> a "secure connection" means using SSL

00:47 <PovAddict> using SSL usually means buying a certificate

00:47 <Tank_Master> yeah

00:47 <Tank_Master> though could use HTTPS :)

00:47 <PovAddict> HTTPS *is* HTTP over SSL

00:48 <Tank_Master> you dont need a certificate for https

00:48 <PovAddict> of course you do

00:48 <PovAddict> it *can* be a self-signed certificate, but then it'll show quite a security warning on the browser

00:49 <PovAddict> for a real cert... http://www.verisign.com/ssl/buy-ssl-certificates/secure-site-ssl-certificates/index.html

00:49 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/ykzodk> (at www.verisign.com)

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01:38 <PovAddict> ok, I bumped my 9-month-old trac ticket

01:38 <PovAddict> PHP 5.3.0 is now safe(r) to use in a BOINC server

01:39 <Tank_Master> lol

01:40 <Tank_Master> key word: "safer"

01:43 <Tank_Master> &grab PovAddict

01:43 <Romulus> Tank_Master: The operation succeeded.

01:51 <zombie67> povadict?

01:51 <zombie67> PovAddict?

01:52 <zombie67> grab no work?

01:53 <Tank_Master> ?

01:53 <Tank_Master> the &grab command saves the last line they typed in

01:54 <MTughan_> &quotegrabs search PHP 5.3.0

01:54 <Romulus> MTughan_: #98: PHP 5.3.0 is now safe(r) to use in a BOINC...

01:54 <MTughan_> &quotegrabs 98

01:54 <Romulus> MTughan_: I dunno.

01:54 <MTughan_> Hmmm...

01:54 <MTughan_> &quotegrabs quote 98

01:54 <Romulus> MTughan_: Error: I couldn't find a matching quotegrab for 98.

01:55 <MTughan_> Stupid bot.

01:55 <Tank_Master> lol

01:55 <MTughan_> &quotegrabs get 98

01:55 <Romulus> MTughan_: <PovAddict> PHP 5.3.0 is now safe(r) to use in a BOINC server (Said by: PovAddict!n=nicolas@nicolas17-1-pt.tunnel.tserv3.fmt2.ipv6.he.net; grabbed by Tank_Master!n=jaeger_r@pool-71-117-207-161.ptldor.fios.verizon.net at 01:43 AM, September 06, 2009)

01:55 <MTughan_> Ooh, saves the grabee too.

01:55 <Tank_Master> heh

01:56 <Tank_Master> ggrreeeaatttt

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01:56 <MTughan_> Anyway, it's almost 2AM, and I need to be up before 8AM... I'm also having trouble finding keys on the keyboard.

01:56 <Tank_Master> hehe

01:56 <Tank_Master> gn

01:57 * MTughan_ misses his backlit KB

01:57 <Tank_Master> those are handy

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09:13 <xcamel> 'lo

09:13 <wdsmia> morning Jay

09:14 <xcamel> hows yer weekend going?

09:15 <wdsmia> didnt do much yesterday... need to make up for it today

09:17 <xcamel> letting hay dry.. probably going to bale some tomorrow... only place in the state it rained was over my farm

09:53 <CoderForLife> morning folks

10:47 <Tank_Master> morning everyone

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12:40 <xcamel> interesting that the einstein ABP 1.10 cuda wu's take 3:39 and change.. I thought it would eb faster.

12:40 <xcamel> be faster even

12:40 <CoderForLife> indeed

12:44 <CoderForLife> and hello Jay

12:44 <xcamel> Hi Don.

12:44 <xcamel> Waiting for the Son to get home then off to another fair..

12:45 <CoderForLife> I was just outside doing yardw@#% with mine

12:45 <CoderForLife> I put down the fall fertilizer on the lawn

12:46 <CoderForLife> I can do it for a heck of a lot le$$ than the professionals

12:46 <xcamel> definitely..

12:47 <xcamel> first cutting of hay in september is just wrong though.

12:47 <CoderForLife> heh

12:48 <xcamel> got about 25 ac down at the moment, giving new meaning to tomorrow being "labor" day

12:48 <CoderForLife> wow

12:49 <CoderForLife> I'm sure the animals will appreciate it

12:57 <CoderForLife> even if they "don't say so"  =)

13:19 <CoderForLife> ah well

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17:58 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

17:58 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 77.7F / 25.4C | Humidity: 66% | Pressure: 30.11in / 1019.5hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Areas of dense fog late in the night. Low in the upper 50s. East wind near 10 mph.; Labor Day - Mostly sunny. Areas of dense fog through mid morning. High in the lower 80s. East wind near 10 mph (1 more message)

17:58 <wdsmia> &more

17:58 <Romulus> wdsmia: shifting to the southeast in the afternoon.; Monday Night - Partly cloudy. Low in the upper 50s. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph.;

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18:15 <CoderForLife> firewall reboot time again =(

18:15 <CoderForLife> bbs

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18:21 <wdsmia> wb

18:22 <CoderForLife7477> indeed

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18:27 <CoderForLife> looks like it's time for a firmware upgrade from 2.0.0-141 to 3.0.5-24

18:28 <CoderForLife> if that doesn't cure it, then it

18:28 <CoderForLife> 'll be time to swap in the spare

18:28 <wdsmia> upgrade=take out old bugs. introduce new ones

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18:40 <CoderForLife> time to test the new bugs

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18:55 <CoderForLife> upgraded the firewall while in reboot fever

18:56 <CoderForLife> I should hopefully be up for awhile

18:56 <CoderForLife> if the problem recurs, then it's time to swap in the spare firewall

18:56 <CoderForLife> the first symptom is DNS resolution failure (local DNS in firewall), then finally the local address of the firewall is unpingable

18:57 * CoderForLife returns to cleaning - Stephen's girlfriend arrives on Tuesday

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19:16 <Tank_Master> gl

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19:33 <quail> &math convert 6 lbs kg

19:33 <Romulus> quail: 2.72155422

19:38 * kathryn_ thinks all alarm clocks should be destroyed

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19:38 <Tank_Master> morning KM

19:38 <desti> hrhr

19:38 <KathrynM> it's morning

19:39 <CoderForLife> does anybody really know what time it is

19:39 <Tank_Master> time is relitive to the speed you are traveling at

19:39 <KathrynM> physics before breakfast?  ugh!

19:39 <Tank_Master> :D

19:39 <CoderForLife> thank you, Professor Einstein

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19:56 <quail> morning all

20:03 <Tank_Master> evening quail

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20:16 <quail> Tank_Master: how are things?

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20:45 <Tank_Master> good

20:49 <efc> Moo

20:55 <CoderForLife> Mooving on toward bed - gn all

21:00 <efc> &nn cfl

21:00 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

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