IRC logs of #boinc for Tuesday, 2009-09-08

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05:58 <quail> does anyone know the command to find out what make and model my hdd and optical drives are under linux?

06:09 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

06:09 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 62.6F / 17.0C | Humidity: 95% | Pressure: 30.02in / 1016.5hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Areas of dense fog through mid morning. Visibility one quarter mile or less at times through mid morning. High in the lower 80s. Southeast wind 5 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Patchy fog early in the (1 more message)

06:09 <wdsmia> &more

06:09 <Romulus> wdsmia: morning. Low in the lower 60s. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph.; Wednesday - Partly sunny with isolated thunderstorms. High around 80. Southeast wind near 10 mph. Chance of thunderstorms 20 percent.;

06:10 <CoderForLife> off to w@#%

06:29 <hawmps> 'lo

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10:25 <hawmps> 6.10.2 workfetch is still fubar.

10:28 <KathrynM> surprise there

10:28 <KathrynM> qmc is down

10:28 <KathrynM> I'm headed to bed

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11:37 <Tank_Master> hawmps, ahev you tried 6.10.3?

11:37 <Tank_Master> have*

11:37 <Tank_Master> welcome Nickuwo

11:37 <Nickuwo> hey Tank, whats up?

11:38 <Tank_Master> not much

11:38 <Tank_Master> u?

11:41 <Nickuwo> just working on ramsey...

11:42 <Tank_Master> ahh, fun

11:42 <Nickuwo> yes, if you're masochistic

11:42 <Tank_Master> lol

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12:23 <Nickuwo> why does ifstream.get() read chars then cast to ints? 1 = 48? c'mon now...

12:24 <PovAddict> ?

12:24 <PovAddict> a char is no more than a 8-bit integer

12:25 <Nickuwo> okay.

12:25 <PovAddict> also, I think the issue is that get() may return one of 257 possible values, and that can't fit in a char

12:26 <PovAddict> 0-255 for data it reads, plus -1 if it reaches end of file

12:26 <Nickuwo> hmm. so im doing int i = fin.get() and when it reads a "1" it returns 48

12:26 <PovAddict> well of course

12:27 <Nickuwo> ...

12:27 <PovAddict> you're reading bytes from a file

12:27 <Nickuwo> eh

12:27 <PovAddict> if you want to interpret that into "numbers", you need extra processing

12:29 <Nickuwo> i c

12:29 <PovAddict> what is your file format anyway?

12:31 <Nickuwo> just a .txt file

12:32 <PovAddict> doesn't answer the question

12:32 <Nickuwo> beats me

12:32 <PovAddict> a .txt file could have English in it, and I doubt you're parsing that :)

12:33 <Nickuwo> ANSI0000000000111

12:33 <Nickuwo> 0000000011001

12:33 <Nickuwo> 0000000101001

12:33 <Nickuwo> 0000001001001

12:33 <Nickuwo> 0000010000101

12:33 <Nickuwo> 0000100001010

12:33 <Nickuwo> 0001000000110

12:33 <Nickuwo> 0010000010010

12:33 <Nickuwo> 0100000100100

12:33 <Nickuwo> 0111010000000

12:33 <PovAddict> oh dear

12:33 <Nickuwo> 1000101010000

12:33 <Nickuwo> 1000011100000

12:33 <Nickuwo> thats true, it's not english. it's an adjancecy matrix. "file format" isn't very specific

12:33 <Nickuwo> holy

12:33 <Nickuwo> lol

12:33 <Nickuwo> so thats what was in my clipboard...

12:33 <PovAddict> then yes I suppose get() is the right thing to use :P

12:34 <PovAddict> if (i == '0') then it's a zero

12:34 <PovAddict> if (i == '1') then it's a one

12:34 <PovAddict> if (i == '\n') then you reached the end of the line

12:34 <Nickuwo> ahh gotchya

12:35 <Nickuwo> 48 == '1'

12:35 <PovAddict> in ascii, yes :)

12:35 <Nickuwo> its so obvious!!!

12:35 <Nickuwo> ...

12:35 <PovAddict> 64 == 'A'

12:35 <Nickuwo> course. 10 == '\n'

12:38 <Nickuwo> yay

12:38 <PovAddict> <jafo> If java had real garbage-collection, it would delete most programs before it executed them.

12:39 <Nickuwo> hah

12:43 <PovAddict> <dash> wow. this code does something highly entertaining, but nowhere near correct

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13:53 <PovAddict> 6.10.4 coming

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13:54 <wdsmia_w> maybe by 6.10.255 it might work

13:55 <wdsmia_w> but dont count on it

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13:58 <PovAddict> I think multiple pieces of code would break if any number reaches 99

14:02 <wdsmia_w> multiple pieces of code break when they increment by one :P

14:02 * yomshleeshee is missing something here

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14:30 <Tank_Master> lol

14:33 <PovAddict> 6.10.4 available in /dl/

14:40 <Tank_Master> ok

14:45 <Tank_Master> chagelog hasnt been updated yet

14:46 <Tank_Master> though I think it correctly works with ATI cards now

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15:27 <PovAddict> 6.10.4 announced

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17:26 <CoderForLife> yethuree

17:29 <yomshleeshee> o.O

17:30 <CoderForLife> heh

17:43 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

17:43 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 71.4F / 21.9C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 29.68in / 1005.0hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Scattered showers and thunderstorms... mainly this evening. Patchy fog after midnight. Lows in the upper 50s. Northeast winds around 5 mph this evening... becoming light and variable. Chance of (2 more messages)

17:44 <yomshleeshee> &wx 63121

17:44 <Romulus> yomshleeshee: Temperature: 84.3F / 29.1C | Humidity: 52% | Pressure: 29.51in / 999.2hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Patchy fog after midnight. Low in the mid 60s. Light wind.; Wednesday - Partly cloudy. High in the mid 80s. Light wind.; Wednesday Night - Partly cloudy. Low in the lower 60s. Light wind.;

17:44 <CoderForLife> &more

17:44 <Romulus> CoderForLife: rain 30 percent.; Wednesday - Patchy fog in the morning. Partly sunny with a chance of showers and thunderstorms. Highs around 80. East winds around 5 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.; Wednesday Night - Partly cloudy. A chance of showers...mainly in the evening. Lows in the upper 50s. East winds around 5 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Special Weather Statement for Hamilton County in (1 more message)

17:44 <CoderForLife> &more

17:44 <Romulus> CoderForLife: effect until 7:00 PM EDT on September 08, 2009;

17:44 <CoderForLife> hmm

17:45 <yomshleeshee> hmm, yours looks rougher

17:45 <CoderForLife> not too rough

17:45 <CoderForLife> just wet

17:45 <yomshleeshee> right

17:46 <Tank_Master> &wx 97123

17:46 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 69.1F / 20.6C | Humidity: 43% | Pressure: 30.00in / 1015.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows 50 to 55. Light wind.; Wednesday - Mostly cloudy. A slight chance of rain in the morning...becoming a slight chance of showers in the afternoon. Highs around 75. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph.; (1 more message)

17:46 <Tank_Master> & more

17:46 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Wednesday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows 50 to 55. North wind 5 to 10 mph.;

17:47 <Tank_Master> had for it to rain if there arent no clouds

17:47 <Tank_Master> hard*

17:48 <CoderForLife> the former would seem to require the latter

17:48 <Tank_Master> one would think

17:48 <wdsmia> re-hi

17:49 <CoderForLife> we-say-hi

17:52 <wdsmia> *lo weezer

17:52 * wdsmia ducks

17:52 <CoderForLife> you quack me up

17:53 <Tank_Master> ducks?!?! where???

17:53 <wdsmia> duck season?

17:54 <CoderForLife> he's a unique duck - to catch him unique up on him

17:54 <wdsmia> wabbit season?

17:54 <CoderForLife> duck season!

17:54 <wdsmia> wabbit season!

17:55 <CoderForLife> duck season!

17:55 <wdsmia> duck season!

17:55 <CoderForLife> wab.. wait a minute...

17:55 * CoderForLife knows where this leads

17:56 <wdsmia> lol

17:56 <wdsmia> its a classic

17:56 <CoderForLife> indeed

17:56 <Tank_Master> :)

17:59 <CoderForLife> I don't know how I wound up here, I must have taken the wrong turn at Albuquerque

18:01 <CoderForLife> I was actually thru there one time, on my way back north after visiting the VLA outside Socorro

18:01 <CoderForLife> that's my lifetime quota on Albuquerque

18:01 <Tank_Master> :)

18:03 <wdsmia> You're Despicable!

18:03 <Tank_Master> &grab wdsmia

18:03 <Romulus> Tank_Master: The operation succeeded.

18:03 <CoderForLife> lol

18:03 <Tank_Master> :D

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19:02 <wdsmia> wrong button

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19:14 <Tank_Master> lol

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20:08 <CoderForLife> weather alert - looking

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20:17 <PovAddict> 6.10.4 out for Mac

20:33 <CoderForLife> I'm going to drop off 4 2 nite

20:33 <CoderForLife> gn all

20:43 <quail> &time

20:43 <Romulus> quail: 08:43 PM, September 08, 2009

20:43 <quail> 'morning all

20:43 <quail> &wx ypad

20:43 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 57°F / 14°C | Humidity: 48% | Pressure: 30.09in / 1019hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h | Updated: 10:00 AM CST; Unknown. High:50 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:41 F.; Clear. High:60 F.; Clear. Low:46 F.; Clear. High:68 F.; Clear. Low:59 F.;

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20:48 <CoderForLife_> brief power outage from the approaching t-storm

20:48 <CoderForLife_> was out about 45 seconds

20:51 <CoderForLife_> again gn

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22:27 <Tank_Master> ib

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23:43 * jasong wonders how long it will be until price per GB for flash drives will be less than or equal to the price per GB of hard drives

23:43 <jasong> any guesses?

23:44 <Nickuwo> 42

23:44 <jasong> When they came on my radar, flash cost 25 as much, now it's more like 8 times as much

23:44 <MTughan> So price/GB of flash memory == price/GB of HD? Not likely for a while.

23:46 <jasong> The thing that gets me is that when people want tons of storage, it tends to be for video, so why not try to make a flash drive that transfers slower, but has more capacity?  Most video is a few MB/sec, so super-awesome speeds aren't necessarily needed

23:47 <MTughan> Why can't hard drives suffice?

23:48 <PovAddict> if you want slow speed in exchange for very high storage, what about tapes?

23:48 <jasong> Well, people want more capacity for cheaper, and I was just going along with the idea that flash drives are taking over.  But, yeah, hard drives are awesome right now for video

23:49 <jasong> Tapes are sequential, people don't want to wait 15 minutes to get their stuff

23:49 <PovAddict> I think tapes nowadays are faster than that for seeking

23:50 <PovAddict> I don't think it will take as much as 15 minutes to fast-forward the tape to where the file begins

23:50 <jasong> Yeah, but it looks like an initial investment of more than $10,000

23:50 <Nickuwo> hmm, so I can access my web server internally (lan) but not externally... I'm forwarding port 80 to it... I'm out of ideas as to what could be wrong

23:50 <PovAddict> Nickuwo: read your ISP contract

23:50 <PovAddict> with a magnifying glass

23:50 <Nickuwo> goddamnit

23:50 <Nickuwo> that better not be it

23:51 <PovAddict> most home ISPs say "you may not host servers"

23:51 <PovAddict> not like anyone actually follows that; consider it says that right next to "you may not illegally transfer copyrighted material" :P

23:52 <PovAddict> however, the problem is a few ISPs may enforce the "may not host servers" thing by blocking ports like 25 and 80

23:52 <Nickuwo> but they wouldnt be responsible for it not working...

23:52 <Nickuwo> o

23:52 <Nickuwo> hmm

23:54 <PovAddict> what OS on that webserver?

23:54 <Nickuwo> linux

23:54 <PovAddict> can you access the webserver from other machines in the LAN?

23:54 <Nickuwo> yep

23:55 <Nickuwo> hmm, well not all is lost if they are blocking 80

23:55 <PovAddict> try an alternate port

23:55 <Nickuwo> something to try tomorrow tho. thx

23:55 <PovAddict> if that doesn't work, you're doing something wrong eg. in forwarding

23:55 <Nickuwo> yea

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