IRC logs of #boinc for Tuesday, 2009-09-22

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01:57 <efc> &wx 31088

01:57 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 70F / 21C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 30.12in / 1020hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h ; Tonight - Showers with a chance of thunderstorms in the evening...then a chance of showers and thunderstorms after midnight. Locally heavy rainfall possible. Lows in the lower 70s. Light east winds. Chance of rain 80 percent.; Tuesday - (2 more messages)

01:57 <efc> &more

01:57 <Romulus> efc: Partly sunny with a 40 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Locally heavy rainfall possible in the morning. Highs in the mid 80s. Northeast winds 10 to 15 mph.; Tuesday Night - Mostly cloudy with a 20 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms in the evening. Lows around 70. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph.; Flash Flood Warning for Houston County in effect until 4:00 AM EDT on September (1 more message)

01:57 <efc> &more

01:57 <Romulus> efc: 22, 2009; Areal Flood Watch for Houston County in effect until 8:00 PM EDT on September 22, 2009;

02:05 <Tank_Master> fun times

02:07 <efc> worse flooding in atlanta

02:09 <efc> holy moly, more rain all this week

02:10 <Tank_Master> should come tot he pacific northwest, nothing but sun and 80s and 90s this week

02:11 <efc> Yeah we must have had 8 inches in the last 4 days, another week of it is a problem

02:13 <Tank_Master> &wx 97123

02:13 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 72.7F / 22.6C | Humidity: 23% | Pressure: 30.09in / 1018.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Clear. Lows 50 to 60. East wind 5 to 15 mph...except east wind 20 to 30 mph near The Gorge in the evening.; Tuesday - Sunny. Highs around 90. East wind 5 to 15 mph. Near The Gorge...east wind 20 to 30 mph decreasing (1 more message)

02:13 <Tank_Master> &more

02:13 <Romulus> Tank_Master: to 10 to 20 mph in the afternoon.; Tuesday Night - Clear. Lows 55 to 60. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph.; Fire Weather Warning for Washington County in effect until 12:00 PM PDT on September 22, 2009;

02:18 <efc> the NOAA weather station advises me "do not drown"

02:18 <efc> Thanks for the tip!

02:18 <Tank_Master> lol

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02:18 <Tank_Master> porbably tells me "dont light yourself on fire"

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02:53 <efc> 20 in rain since saturday

03:08 * efc looks for an economical printer..

03:12 <efc> bulk ink.. $100/gallon

03:15 <Tank_Master> spendy shyt

03:16 <Tank_Master> no wonder printer companies try to sell you ink instead of printers

03:17 <efc> in the cartridges its $8000/gallon

03:17 <Tank_Master> :D

03:17 <efc> I'd be pretty happy at $100/gallon, that would let you print a couple dozen national geographics

03:18 <Tank_Master> hehe

03:18 <Tank_Master> you just want the nudy pics

03:18 <efc> Don't Ask - Don't Tell

03:18 <Tank_Master> :D

03:19 <efc> My dad recently got a color laser... $70 for a black cartridge. 2,000 pages. Seems really unimpressive.

03:19 <efc> older print was $200 for 75,000

03:21 <Tank_Master> spendy

03:23 <efc> We have a couple extra toner carts for that old one but its getting old and a little spotty

03:23 <efc> We actually bought a new (old) one a while back, just to keep using the stock of toner we already had

03:23 <Tank_Master> :)

03:28 <efc> the canons seem ok.. separate tanks, about $15/tank

03:31 <efc> oh poo, its got the tank chips

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04:34 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

04:34 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 68.0F / 20.0C | Humidity: 94% | Pressure: 29.77in / 1008.0hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy until late afternoon...then becoming partly sunny. Scattered showers. Isolated thunderstorms this afternoon. Highs in the upper 70s. Southeast winds around 5 mph. Chance of rain 40 percent.; Tonight - (1 more message)

04:34 <CoderForLife> &more

04:34 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Partly cloudy with scattered showers and isolated thunderstorms in the evening...then mostly cloudy with isolated showers after midnight. Lows in the mid 60s. Southeast winds around 5 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Wednesday - Mostly cloudy. Scattered showers...mainly in the afternoon. Highs in the lower 80s. Southwest winds around 5 mph. Chance of rain 40 percent.;

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05:08 <efc> moo cfl

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06:26 <hawmps> 'lo

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07:27 <hawmps> &wx 12020

07:27 <Romulus> hawmps: Temperature: 56.0F / 13.3C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 30.05in / 1017.5hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. A slight chance of showers this afternoon. The high in the lower 70s. South winds around 5 mph...increasing to 10 to 15 mph this afternoon. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a 30 (1 more message)

07:28 <hawmps> &more

07:28 <Romulus> hawmps: percent chance of showers. The low in the lower 60s. South winds 10 to 15 mph...diminishing to around 5 mph after midnight.; Wednesday - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. The high in the upper 70s. South winds 5 to 10 mph... becoming west in the afternoon. Chance of rain 30 percent.;

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09:17 <hawmps> POV.. you around?

09:21 <hawmps> 50 wu's 'in proscess' seems a bit much.

09:37 <RomW> its a bug that was fixed in 6.10.6

09:37 <RomW> i believe

09:37 <RomW> at least it appears to be fixed on Windows

09:52 <hawmps> linux 32 in the download bucket?

09:53 <RomW> i'm building it

09:53 <hawmps> OK, thanks.

10:01 <hawmps> Is therre and internal cleanup, or does it just run them out by amount done?

10:10 <RomW> its probably based on received time and result name

10:17 <hawmps> cripes.. can't type today.

10:18 <hawmps> and 'X' gets the stutters when there is a heavy cuda load

10:19 <RomW> Ah, so it sufferes the same problem then as Windows Vista and Windows 7

10:19 <hawmps> I was thinking a 'run once' internal script to knock out the existing nearly done units in order..

10:19 <RomW> Well all you can do in that sitaution is to just turn off GPU usage while the computer is in use

10:20 <hawmps> in X it's keystrokes like 'ssssssssssssssssssstop it'

10:21 <hawmps> turn off GPU... hmmm.. repel down cliff, or just jump.

10:31 <Tank_Master> just jump

10:31 <Tank_Master> its quicker

10:39 <kathryn_> RomW, did we get a linux build where the manager actually starts the client?

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10:46 <Tank_Master> I thought the latest did that

10:46 <hawmps> it does 10.4 anyway

10:49 <hawmps> waiting for .6 to show up in the list..

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10:49 <kathryn_> yeah, but 6.6 is recommended and it doesn't

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10:52 <hawmps> I meant 6.10.6 now

10:54 <RomW> 6.6.40 has the fixes for starting the CC

10:56 <KathrynM> Did I miss a release email?

10:57 <RomW> I didn't send a release email

10:57 <RomW> doah

10:57 <Tank_Master>

10:57 <Romulus> Title: Download BOINC client software (at

10:58 <Tank_Master> hey RomW - is there a was to suspend cpu/gpu work and not non_cpu projects?

10:58 <Tank_Master> other than manually suspending projects that arent non_cpu

10:59 <RomW> I don't think so

10:59 <Tank_Master> k

10:59 <Tank_Master> would be nice :)

10:59 <RomW> Send an email to BOINC dev

10:59 <RomW> sounds like an interesting feature

10:59 <RomW> or something that slipped through the cracks

10:59 <Tank_Master> dont see why non_cpu cant keep running while user is active but suspend the rest, or something like that

11:00 <Tank_Master> as an option anyway

11:04 <RomW> 32-bit linux uploaded

11:05 <Tank_Master>;O=D

11:05 <Romulus> Title: Index of /dl (at

11:10 <quail> &wx ypad

11:10 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 55°F / 13°C | Humidity: 82% | Pressure: 29.65in / 1004hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 14mph / 22km/h | Updated: 12:30 AM CST; Chance of Rain. High:68 F.; Rain. Low:50 F.; Chance of Rain. High:59 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:51 F.; Chance of Rain. High:62 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:51 F.;

11:10 <hawmps> thanks

11:11 <quail> hi Jay

11:13 <hawmps> BM started fine Rom.

11:13 <hawmps> benchmarks running

11:13 <hawmps> 'lo Q

11:13 <hawmps> both GPU's detected

11:13 <quail> hawmps: how are you?

11:14 <hawmps> good enough

11:15 <hawmps> yea.. getting MW again

11:15 <Tank_Master> :)

11:15 <hawmps> small problem... seti turned into a download-gasm.

11:16 <quail> hehe

11:16 <hawmps> omg - I must have 100+ wu's

11:16 <Tank_Master> lol

11:16 <Tank_Master> work fetch bug?

11:17 <RomW> two GPUs

11:17 <RomW> probably not

11:17 <RomW> How many days worth of a cache are you keeping?

11:17 <hawmps> ok.. it settled down now.

11:17 <hawmps> 2, iirc.

11:18 <Tank_Master> ahh, 100s of MW units?

11:18 <Tank_Master> or seti?

11:18 <hawmps> seti

11:19 <hawmps> I wish on the MW - I **never** get more than 4 thanks to certain people.

11:19 <Tank_Master> lol

11:20 <hawmps> yup - the workfetch bug is back.. and bad.

11:21 <Tank_Master> bummer

11:21 <hawmps> einstein just downloaded another 24

11:21 <RomW> well turn on work-fetch debug

11:22 <Tank_Master> man these orbit WUs are large

11:22 <RomW> and send it to boinc_alpha

11:22 <Tank_Master> 100h in and 66% done

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11:24 <hawmps> not really sure it's a bug yet. I'm going to let it run for a while...

11:25 <quail> half hour later hawmps finds his hdd full, hehe

11:25 <hawmps> now... as for the CPU/GPU ratios -- any ideas?

11:26 <hawmps> I have seti at 0.05 & 1, and einsteing at 0.05 & 2

11:26 <Tank_Master> ?

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11:30 <Tank_Master> wb

11:32 <quail> ty

11:33 <quail> just reconfiguring my irssi and getting rid of the channels I hardly use now

11:33 <quail> or not using

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11:44 <hawmps> lol - BM shutdown doesn't stop the client (again)

11:45 <hawmps> oops.. yeah, it did, it just took a second.

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14:41 <PovAddict> yoyo?

14:41 <Romulus> It has been said that yoyo is at, PovAddict

14:41 <PovAddict> that's what I needed :)

14:42 <PovAddict> yoyo[RKN]: does evo have work?

14:42 <yoyo[RKN]> sure

14:43 <yoyo[RKN]> but no mac app

14:43 <PovAddict> linux

14:43 <hawmps> evo?

14:43 <PovAddict> hawmps: evolution subproject of yoyo@home

14:43 <yoyo[RKN]> evo runs only on windows

14:43 <PovAddict> bah :(

14:43 <yoyo[RKN]> ogr and ecm run on linux

14:44 <PovAddict> some day I'll mod BOINC so it can run Windows science apps under Wine...

14:44 <PovAddict> what about muon?

14:44 <yoyo[RKN]> only windows

14:45 <yoyo[RKN]> why not ogr or ecm?

14:45 <hawmps> ah

14:45 <PovAddict> well, I asked about muon just out of curiosity

14:45 <hawmps> go figure... 'dead seti time'

14:45 <PovAddict> I was mainly interested in running evo

14:46 <yoyo[RKN]> why?

14:46 <PovAddict> because evolution and genetics is interesting? :)

14:47 <yoyo[RKN]> I could not convince the authors of evo and muon to release a linux version or to send me the sources

14:49 <PovAddict> lots of their stuff is super out of date

14:49 <PovAddict> "If you feel insecure about what to choose, use 2 MB for a computer that is older than 1995, and 10 MB for computers that are newer." LOL

14:49 <yoyo[RKN]> ^^

14:50 <PovAddict> and the software seems to be from 2002

15:02 <Tank_Master> what about comp that were made IN 1995?

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15:05 <hawmps> anyone have a straight answer on the CPU/GPU ratio numbers, and if they can/should be tweaked?

15:06 <PovAddict> that just says how much the app claims to use

15:06 <PovAddict> I don't see what you'd gain by messing with it

15:06 <hawmps> in the app_info.xml files

15:07 <hawmps> even between platforms it's different

15:07 <hawmps> seti linux is 0.04, in wndows it's 0.13

15:08 <Tank_Master> .13 seems to be the default for all cuda windows apps

15:09 <hawmps> I'm just trying to get my head around the rationale

15:10 <hawmps> GPU is either 1 or 2

15:10 <hawmps> (more if you have a couple of Teslas)

15:10 <quail> d1b: :-)/win 14

15:10 <PovAddict> the app uses some CPU

15:10 <quail> oops

15:10 <PovAddict> inevitably

15:11 <hawmps> uh-huh.

15:11 <hawmps> einstein seems to like 1 & 1 best

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17:38 <jackygrahamez_> hi

17:38 <Tank_Master> hey

17:38 <Tank_Master> hows h2 doin?

17:38 <jackygrahamez_> ok

17:38 <Tank_Master> :)

17:39 <jackygrahamez_> maybe a few errors

17:39 <jackygrahamez_> more or less focused on DD@H

17:39 <Tank_Master> as always

17:39 <jackygrahamez_> I'm trying to figure out the best way to pass a variable

17:40 <jackygrahamez_> you think there is any problem with setting environmental variables through an app?

17:40 <Tank_Master> tried using a shotgun to force it in there? :P

17:41 <jackygrahamez_> only if it does not want to get married

17:41 <Tank_Master> lol

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20:33 <CoderForLife> ah

20:33 <CoderForLife> there they are

20:34 <CoderForLife> &bighello

20:34 <Romulus> Hello Celelibi-, clusty, CoderForLife, ComradeHaz, deprecated, desti, efc, Eythan, FreeLarry58, hawmps, jackygrahamez_, jasong, KathrynM, Lorvija, masterx831, MTughan, PieSpyRom, PovAddict, quail, Romulus, RomW, stux|RC-only, Tank_Master, Turf, up365, wdsmia, Webu, xcamel, and yomshleeshee

20:34 <PovAddict> !

20:34 <MTughan> You had the worse end of the split.

20:35 <CoderForLife> me and Pov and KM mostly

20:35 <MTughan> And TM.

20:35 <CoderForLife> I didn't notice - could be

20:35 * efc floats in and out of Freenodes

20:36 <CoderForLife> efc is a freeloading Freenoder

20:36 *** ChanServ sets mode: -o CoderForLife

20:36 * CoderForLife powers down

20:37 <CoderForLife> so far tobight I've fixed a floor lamp and the vacuum sweeper

20:37 <CoderForLife> er tonight

20:38 <CoderForLife> score: Appliances 2, Coding 0

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20:49 <wdsmia> looks like CoderForLife is having a analog night

20:57 <CoderForLife> indeed - the only thing digital about it is my fingers

20:58 <CoderForLife> I need to be careful how those are placed, given the blood thinner and all

20:58 <wdsmia> keep them out of the gears

20:59 <CoderForLife> I need to - we don't have enough towels in the house to clean up the aftermath

21:00 <CoderForLife> well - 9pm - time to turn into a sleepy pumpkin

21:00 <CoderForLife> gn all

21:00 <wdsmia> nn pop

21:00 <PovAddict> early

21:00 <CoderForLife> I get up at 4:30

21:00 <CoderForLife> 4:05 this morning

21:01 <CoderForLife> so.. gn

21:01 <PovAddict> o_O

21:01 <PovAddict> lately I have such a messed up sleep schedule

21:01 <PovAddict> it's like opposite to yours

21:01 <CoderForLife> you're young - you can handle it

21:02 <wdsmia> 4:55 every morning for me

21:02 <CoderForLife> my birthday is next Monday - I get OLDer

21:02 <PovAddict> I go to sleep at 4, and wake up when my mom complains at noon

21:02 <wdsmia> well thats first alarm lol

21:02 <PovAddict> and no, I can't handle it that well :P

21:02 <CoderForLife> heh

21:03 * CoderForLife disappears in a cloud of greasy black smoke

21:03 <jackygrahamez_> I'll give that visual studio one more attempt before I zone out

21:04 <jackygrahamez_> I guess there are some variables defined twice, otherwise I don't know why adding the windows.h will cause this problem

21:10 <jackygrahamez_> ah I put it in the main function of the "c" file

21:10 <jackygrahamez_> he he he

21:13 <PovAddict> sigh

21:29 <Tank_Master> lol

22:14 <jasong> the red dust cloud involves earth, wind, and fire.  I'm not familiar with that band, so you guys can make up your own silly jokes

22:14 <jasong> google red dust cloud

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22:52 <quail> 'noon all, how is everyone?

22:53 <efc> Moo Quail

22:54 <efc> had something like 20 inches of rain here

22:54 <efc> Thats 2.7 kilometers for you metric people

22:54 <MTughan> Make that 50cm.

22:54 <PovAddict> o_O?

22:54 <Romulus> It has been said that o_O is ~450MB total, PovAddict

22:54 <PovAddict> forget o_O

22:54 <Romulus> I hear ya.

22:54 <MTughan> &math convert 20 in cm

22:54 <Romulus> MTughan: 50.8

22:54 <MTughan> But that's a lot of rain.

22:55 <quail> efc: we been getting pletty rain here in the last couple days, the 22000 gallon tank should be full now for summer

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22:58 <efc> they've been complaining our lakes aren't full, if this doesn't do it nothing will.

23:00 <efc>

23:00 <Romulus> <> (at

23:01 <jasong> what's the website where you can post pics and have them disappear after a day, week, month, whatever?

23:01 <Tank_Master> lol

23:01 <PovAddict> imagebin expires them by itself

23:01 <Tank_Master> nice misleading title

23:01 <jasong> thanks

23:01 <jasong> I need to bookmark that

23:01 <PovAddict> I don't know of any that lets you choose when to expire

23:02 <Tank_Master> isnt sixflags a watter park?

23:02 <PovAddict> 8 flags under water, many missing flags?

23:02 <efc> six flags is the name of the park.

23:02 <efc> It wasn't originally a water park..

23:02 <Tank_Master> nice one pov :P

23:03 <efc> Lake Lanier STILL not full (down 3 feet below full)

23:03 <Tank_Master> so you need more rain then

23:04 <efc> it will probably keep rising

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