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05:30 <PovAddict> the sun is starting to come out and I havent slept yet
05:31 <Tidus> same
05:52 <masterx831> Now Playing... Huey Lewis - If this is it
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06:15 <wdsmia> &wx 50319
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06:15 <wdsmia> &more
06:15 <Romulus> wdsmia: shifting to the west in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation 30 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy with a 20 percent chance of showers. Low in the mid 50s. Northwest wind near 5 mph shifting to the northeast after midnight.; Thursday - Partly sunny. A slight chance of showers and isolated thunderstorms in the morning...then a chance of thunderstorms in the afternoon. High in the mid 70s. (1 more message)
06:15 <wdsmia> &more
06:15 <Romulus> wdsmia: Southeast wind near 10 mph. Chance of precipitation 30 percent.;
06:32 <hawmps> 'lo
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08:26 <hawmps> 6.10.6 seems to have solved the 'in process' bug finally.
08:29 <masterx831> &wx 32817
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12:29 <Tank_Master> humm
12:30 <Tank_Master> boinc 6.10.7 is out for windows... whats new in it?
12:30 <wdsmia_w> the bugs :P
12:30 <Tank_Master> figures
12:40 <FreeLarry58> has any of the new boinc versions fixed the almost invisible problem with schedular? getting a little tired of having to due project resets when i notice it not trying to get work from projects anymore
12:44 <wdsmia_w> from the check-in notes: - fix bug that caused unstarted coproc jobs to preempt ones already running. - fix preemption bug, this time fer sure!
13:03 <FreeLarry58> lol - believe it when i see it
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13:06 <hawmps> 'lo Larry
13:06 <FreeLarry58> lo jay
13:06 <hawmps> 6.10.6 seems to have solved a bunch of issues.
13:07 <FreeLarry58> worth a go then?
13:07 <hawmps> the linux version is
13:08 <FreeLarry58> ahh - does it function on fedora 8 or only 10 and above
13:08 * FreeLarry58 is down to only one linux machine again
13:09 <FreeLarry58> maybe can talk pov into upgrading the nix machine
13:09 <FreeLarry58> when he has (ha ha) time to spare that is
13:16 <hawmps> 'yes'
13:16 <hawmps> it works on all..
13:16 <FreeLarry58> good then - hope PovAddict takes note - but will follow up with him later
13:17 * FreeLarry58 noted that if he doesn't work with linux at least once a day he forgets the most basic of commands
13:17 * FreeLarry58 himself that is not PovAddict
13:26 <hawmps> FreeLarry58 should consider himself lucky.
13:30 <PovAddict> lucky for not remembering Linux commands?
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13:55 <Tank_Master> 6.10.6 is working fine for me (though im just running 1 project)
13:55 <Tank_Master> ill hold off further upgrades untill my orbit WU is done
14:03 <hawmps> it's working well.. seriously.
14:07 * wdsmia_w thinks Jay must have gotten O-bummertized
14:07 <hawmps> 'scuse me?
14:08 <wdsmia_w> it's working well.. seriously.
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14:31 <IdleOne> &whatis platform_list
14:32 <IdleOne> &whatis linux
14:32 <Romulus> IdleOne: "linux" could be http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_6.6.36_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh
14:32 <MTughan> Hmm, those should be updated...
14:32 <IdleOne> yup it's .40 now
14:32 <MTughan> IIRC, 6.6.40 is the latest 6.6 version.
14:34 <PovAddict> &factoids change linux 1 s/36/40/
14:34 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.
14:35 <Tank_Master> &whatis windows
14:35 <Romulus> Tank_Master: "windows" could be http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_6.6.36_windows_intelx86.exe
14:35 <Tank_Master> 6.6.38 is the latest for windows
14:36 <Tank_Master> for the 6.6
14:36 <PovAddict> does anyone know what's new in it?
14:37 <PovAddict> &factoids change windows 1 s/36/38/
14:37 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.
14:37 <hawmps> &factoids change linux 1 s/6.40/10.6/
14:37 <Romulus> hawmps: The operation succeeded.
14:38 <hawmps> &whatis linux
14:38 <Romulus> hawmps: "linux" could be http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_6.10.6_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh
14:39 <PovAddict> &factoids change linux32 1 s/6.36/10.6/
14:39 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.
14:39 <PovAddict> &factoids change linux64 1 s/6.36/10.6/
14:39 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.
14:39 <Tank_Master> windows is up to 10.7 now
14:40 <hawmps> &factoids change windows 1 s/6.38/10.7/
14:40 <Romulus> hawmps: The operation succeeded.
14:40 <hawmps> &whatis windows
14:40 <Romulus> hawmps: "windows" could be http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_6.10.7_windows_intelx86.exe
14:41 <Tank_Master> &whatsis windowsx64
14:41 <Romulus> Tank_Master: No idea!
14:41 <Tank_Master> &whatsis win64
14:41 <Romulus> Tank_Master: I dunno.
14:41 <PovAddict> type the command correctly
14:41 <MTughan> &whatis windows64
14:41 <Romulus> MTughan: "windows64" could be http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_6.6.36_windows_x86_64.exe
14:41 <Tank_Master> couldnt rememeber what you guys had it set as
14:41 <MTughan> Tank_Master: You were also typing whatsis instead of whatis.
14:42 <Tank_Master> dang keyboard
14:42 <MTughan> &whatis win64
14:42 <Romulus> MTughan: "win64" could be http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_6.6.36_windows_x86_64.exe
14:42 <Tank_Master> seems the 64bit needs to be updated to
14:43 <PovAddict> there's multiple aliases
14:43 <Tank_Master> yeah
14:43 <hawmps> &factoids change win64 1 s/6.36/10.7/
14:43 <Romulus> hawmps: The operation succeeded.
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14:43 <jackygrahamez_> hi
14:43 <hawmps> 'lo
14:43 <Tank_Master> jackygrahamez_!
14:43 <Tank_Master> wb
14:43 <hawmps> &whatis win64
14:43 <Romulus> hawmps: "win64" could be http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_6.10.7_windows_x86_64.exe
14:43 <Tank_Master> &whatis mac
14:43 <Romulus> Tank_Master: "mac" could be http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_6.6.36_macOSX_universal.zip
14:44 <PovAddict> &factoids change winx64 1 s/6.36/10.7/
14:44 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.
14:44 <PovAddict> &factoids change windows64 1 s/6.36/10.7/
14:44 <Romulus> PovAddict: The operation succeeded.
14:44 <PovAddict> there's all those name variations because it's what people have actually tried in &whatis in the past...
14:45 <MTughan> &learn windows as http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_6.10.7_windows_x86_64.exe
14:45 <Romulus> MTughan: The operation succeeded.
14:45 <MTughan> &windows
14:45 <Romulus> MTughan: Are you daft?
14:45 <MTughan> &whatis windows
14:45 <Romulus> MTughan: "windows" could be (#1) http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_6.10.7_windows_intelx86.exe, or (#2) http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_6.10.7_windows_x86_64.exe
14:45 <MTughan> Replies with both. That work?
14:45 <Tank_Master> dont see whay not
14:46 <Tank_Master> mac is up to 6.6.37 adn 6.10.6
14:47 <Tank_Master> and*
14:47 * PovAddict would rather have a smarter bot that can eg. check for updates from download_all.php
14:47 <Tank_Master> that would be nice :)
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14:57 <hawmps> so write an add-on
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15:17 <hawmps> seti units now running cleanly @ 14 minutes.
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15:34 <Romulus> Title: 6.10.7 â€“ BC-Wiki (at wiki.bc-team.org)
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16:02 <jcrawford> someone that can lend a hand with a fedora 11 install?
16:02 <Romulus> Title: Paste2: Next Generation Pastebin - Viewing Paste 434600 (at paste2.org)
16:05 <jcrawford> anyone?
16:06 <Nickuwo> eh...
16:12 <jcrawford> ah looks like it is working now
16:12 <jcrawford> but.. is complaining that i have no projects attached
16:12 <jcrawford> can someone direct me to the manual on how to do that?
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16:17 <jcrawford> anyone?
16:18 <jcrawford> wow i guess this project is slowing down eh.. i remember more users back in the day
16:21 <MTughan> jcrawford: You'll have to choose projects to participate in.
16:23 <jcrawford> MTughan, yea i was trying to do that
16:23 <jcrawford> but I found that i had to select Advanced -> select computer and enter in the hash etc.
16:23 <jcrawford> now I think i got it
16:24 <MTughan> ... They still haven't fixed that? >_>
16:25 <jcrawford> guess not
16:25 <jcrawford> do i have to select Advanced -> Select Computer every time i launch the manager?
16:25 <jcrawford> i just closed it and re-opened and had to enter it again doh
16:26 <MTughan> Unless you correct the filesystem, yes.
16:26 <MTughan> Do you know what user the daemon is running under?
16:27 <jcrawford> i can find out
16:27 <jcrawford> moment
16:30 <jcrawford> currently running as my user
16:30 <jcrawford> but that is because i started it manually
16:30 <jcrawford> probably will run as root when i reboot
16:31 <jcrawford> where does that cfg file need to be placed so that I do not have to keep entering it upon startup of the GUI?
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16:39 <jcrawford> ah i think i got it
16:40 <jcrawford> setup your accounts section helped me get it without authentication :D
16:41 * FreeLarry58 feels lucky if he can remembr his name when he wakes up - and sometimes gender
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16:57 <quail> 'morning all, how's everyone?
17:03 <PovAddict> jcrawford made a mess on his system: using his $HOME as data directory
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17:38 <wdsmia> re-hi
17:47 <quail> hi Doug
17:48 <quail> wdsmia: how are things?
17:48 <wdsmia> *lo q
17:48 <quail> &wx ypad
17:48 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 57Â°F / 14Â°C | Humidity: 82% | Pressure: 29.95in / 1014hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 18mph / 30km/h | Updated: 7:00 AM CST; Unknown. High:59 ° F.; Chance of Rain. Low:55 ° F.; Chance of Rain. High:68 ° F.; Chance of Rain. Low:48 ° F.; Chance of Rain. High:53 ° F.; Chance of a Thunderstorm. Low:44 ° F.;
17:48 <wdsmia> it was a long day at w@#%
17:48 <quail> :-(
17:48 <wdsmia> Ice cold Beer is making up for it :)
17:49 * quail is trying to become a Debian package maintianer :-)
17:49 <wdsmia> why?
17:49 <quail> beer is always good after a long day
17:50 <quail> wdsmia: so I can get some packages I like to see in Debian
17:50 <wdsmia> AMD released the 58xx ati cards today
17:51 <MTughan> And stock is apparently short.
17:52 <wdsmia> I'll wait for rev b cheaper and debuged
17:52 <quail> wdsmia: and one of the python program I deal with is a bit of pita to install unless you know the correct prefix to send to it to install properly, so it easier to make a deb package for it and get it in Debian
17:53 <PovAddict> I should learn the art of .deb packaging
17:53 <quail> wdsmia: and becoming a Debian package maintainer is another notch in my belt :-)
17:53 <wdsmia> easyer to install doze :P
17:53 <PovAddict> I wish doze had a packaging system
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17:55 <quail> wdsmia: and the program developer has given me permission to try get his program into Debian :-)
17:55 <wdsmia> :)
17:56 <quail> and as a maintainer all I have to worry about is how Debian builds the package :-)
17:57 <quail> but it hard to find a sponsor
17:58 <wdsmia> wow! just checked my stats... 2009-09-23 827,766 ...no coments allowed from the peanut gallary pov :P
17:58 <MTughan> RAC?
17:59 <Romulus> Somebody said RAC is about 2300, MTughan
17:59 <PovAddict> forget RAC
17:59 <Romulus> I hear ya!
17:59 <PovAddict> Romulus: unload moobotfactoids
17:59 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
17:59 <wdsmia> daily total today
18:00 <PovAddict> I'm first in team in Docking@Home
18:00 <wdsmia> best day
18:01 <wdsmia> lol @pov Number of active members 2
18:02 <PovAddict> yup lol
18:02 <jackygrahamez_> congratulations
18:02 <PovAddict> 2nd in country
18:02 <jackygrahamez_> did you see the docking@home second life animation?
18:02 <PovAddict> out of 15 lol
18:04 <jackygrahamez_> btw what about using the log files for the app as a way to checkpoint?
18:07 <wdsmia> Theres 15 computers in Argentina? lol someone must have traded in the Donkey to get the 15th :P
18:07 <PovAddict> for just that project...
18:07 <quail> wdsmia: lol
18:07 * wdsmia ducks
18:07 <quail> hehe
18:07 <PovAddict> but yeah, low overall
18:08 * Tank_Master gooses
18:08 <PovAddict> in SETI I'm 1532 out of 4908
18:08 <jackygrahamez_> well if DA likes the idea I'm sure he will find a way to make it generalized, but I'll see if I can make it work by looking at my own log files
18:09 <wdsmia> Position in Country stats 20 out of 454617
18:10 <Tank_Master> position in my own little world: 78 of 78
18:10 <PovAddict> yeah well, I don't do seti
18:11 <wdsmia> neather do I anymore think im in 1300+
18:11 <PovAddict> ah so you're 20th in boinc combined?
18:12 <wdsmia> may do more it Rom comes up with a ati app :P
18:12 <PovAddict> I don't care about boinc combined, I take the number as meaningless
18:12 <quail> &time
18:12 <Romulus> quail: 06:12 PM, September 23, 2009
18:13 <wdsmia> 20 in combined country stats
18:13 <Tank_Master> jackygrahamez_, what sl animation?
18:13 <wdsmia> 49th worldwide
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18:22 <jackygrahamez_> ? what sl animation?
18:26 <PovAddict> [19:02] <jackygrahamez_> did you see the docking@home second life animation?
18:40 <jackygrahamez_> oh yeah hold on
18:40 <Tank_Master> lol
18:41 <jackygrahamez_> Well I can't find it now :-(
18:41 <Tank_Master> figures
18:57 <wdsmia> &wx 50319
18:57 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 70.2°F / 21.2°C | Humidity: 79% | Pressure: 30.14in / 1020.5hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. A chance of light showers and isolated thunderstorms after midnight. Patchy fog after midnight. Low in the upper 50s. Southeast wind near 5 mph shifting to the southwest after midnight. Chance of (1 more message)
18:57 <wdsmia> &more
18:57 <Romulus> wdsmia: precipitation 50 percent.; Thursday - Mostly cloudy with a 50 percent chance of light showers. High around 70. Southeast wind near 5 mph.; Thursday Night - Showers likely and isolated thunderstorms. Low in the upper 50s. Southeast wind around 5 mph. Chance of precipitation 60 percent.;
18:58 <CoderForLife> greetings
18:59 <wdsmia> *lo Don
18:59 <CoderForLife> heya Doug
18:59 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
18:59 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 71.9°F / 22.2°C | Humidity: 94% | Pressure: 29.81in / 1009.4hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Showers likely early this evening...then cloudy with a chance of showers. Muggy. Lows in the upper 60s. West winds around 5 mph early this evening...becoming light and variable. Chance of rain 70 percent.; (1 more message)
18:59 <CoderForLife> &more
18:59 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Thursday - Mostly cloudy with a 40 percent chance of showers. Highs in the mid 70s. Northeast winds around 5 mph.; Thursday Night - Mostly cloudy. A slight chance of showers in the evening. Lows in the lower 60s. Northeast winds around 5 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent.;
18:59 <CoderForLife> &social
19:01 <CoderForLife> the universe revolves around Rommie and PovAddict - TankMaster is suborbital
19:01 <wdsmia> lol
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19:01 <PovAddict> heh
19:03 <CoderForLife> it's a binary star system
19:03 <wdsmia> PovAddict talks to him/herself a lot. He/She wrote over 5 lines in a row 180 times!
19:04 <PovAddict> 180? o_O
19:04 <wdsmia> Another lonely one was CoderForLife, who managed to hit 160 times.
19:04 <CoderForLife> a Coder's existence is a lonely one
19:07 <CoderForLife> heh - Toyota web ad for the Venza has in bold letters below the VENZA brand name "ROLLOVER TO EXPLORE INSIDE"
19:07 <CoderForLife> I wouldn't associate any vehicle brand with the word ROLLOVER
19:08 <wdsmia> lol
19:08 <CoderForLife> That's similar to trying to sell the Chevy "Nova" in Spanish-speaking countries
19:08 <CoderForLife> eh, PovAddict?
19:08 <wdsmia> true
19:09 <PovAddict> why?
19:09 * CoderForLife waits
19:10 <CoderForLife> no va
19:10 <PovAddict> oh :p
19:10 <CoderForLife> heh
19:10 <CoderForLife> great name for a car
19:11 <CoderForLife> I heard that Coca-Cola in Chinese sounds like "happy drink"
19:12 <CoderForLife> but I digress
19:21 <masterx831> does anyone knows how to create multipage with XPDF?
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19:26 <jackygrahamez_> what is fpops?
19:26 <jackygrahamez_> dang
19:27 * PovAddict revokes jack's boinc admin license
19:27 <jackygrahamez_> ;-(
19:27 <jackygrahamez_> what can I do to get it back?
19:28 <jackygrahamez_> stop admining while drunk?
19:29 <jackygrahamez_> how does one estimate the fpops again?
19:30 <wdsmia> we wouldnt want you to try to work in a un-natural state
19:30 <jackygrahamez_> (est run time * 3600) * fpops Bench = fpops estimate ?
19:31 <PovAddict> no 3600 multiply
19:31 <PovAddict> measure everything in seconds
19:31 <jackygrahamez_> so run time x fpops bench on a good host?
19:31 <CoderForLife> an unnatural state - like West Virginia?
19:32 <wdsmia> more like Ohio :P
19:32 <PovAddict> yes
19:32 <jackygrahamez_> what do you mean WV unnatural, he he
19:32 <CoderForLife> I was going to omit Iowa from the list to be kind
19:32 <CoderForLife> but since you showed your hand...
19:32 <wdsmia> was it ever on the list?
19:33 <CoderForLife> why do you keep your hand in there?
19:33 <jackygrahamez_> so I get an average host to run cpu benchmark? and then I take floating points whetstone per cpu?
19:33 <PovAddict> yes
19:34 <CoderForLife> here's someone trying to carry on a reasonable, on-topic thread
19:34 <wdsmia> silly then
19:34 <wdsmia> err them
19:34 <wdsmia> key moved
19:34 <CoderForLife> sure sure
19:35 <PovAddict> and/or send a dozen tasks, and take an average based on the benchmarks and runtimes of the hosts that get those test tasks
19:35 <CoderForLife> like a good Coder, blame it on hardware
19:35 <PovAddict> or on another developer
19:35 <PovAddict> what are the stages of a project again?
19:35 <wdsmia> like a good hardware tech blame it on the programer
19:36 <Tank_Master> let someone else do it
19:36 <CoderForLife> http://www.jokefile.co.uk/numerical_order/1018.html
19:36 <PovAddict> Murphy's law ("if something can go wrong, it will") doesn't directly apply to computers
19:36 <PovAddict> for computers it goes "if something can go wrong, it already did, and you didn't notice"
19:37 <wdsmia> first rule of computing... to error is human to really scew up requires a computer
19:39 <CoderForLife> or just a keyboard
19:40 <wdsmia> PEBCK problem exists between chair and keyboard
19:41 <jackygrahamez_> can the checkpoint file defined in the job file be used for multiple checkpoints within a task?
19:41 <CoderForLife> it the best place to start looking, at least
19:41 <jackygrahamez_> or do I have to just change the code for wrapper?
19:43 <Romulus> Title: English Russia » Longest Wedding Procession of the Same Car Make (at englishrussia.com)
19:48 <KathrynM> It's Thursday
19:49 <wdsmia> not yet
19:49 <wdsmia> well not here
19:51 <wdsmia> anyone notice that Kathryn is allways way ahead of us :)
19:52 <jackygrahamez_> she's a fast woman
19:52 <jackygrahamez_> my moma always told me to stay away from them
19:53 <CoderForLife> Happy Thursday KathrynM
19:55 <KathrynM> You're momma's a smart woman jackygrahamez_
19:56 <PovAddict> "you're"? from an English teacher?
19:56 <PovAddict> ;)
19:56 <jackygrahamez_> watch y'all toking bout?
19:57 * KathrynM hangs head in shame
20:01 <CoderForLife> bee knot ashamed
20:05 <CoderForLife> gn all
20:07 <jackygrahamez_> night
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22:54 <masterx831> females are pathetic it takes them hella ages to do something on the compter
22:54 <masterx831> when it suppose to take 5 mins to do it
22:55 <masterx831> I could manage to watch porn for 5 mins and be able to masterbate
22:56 * wdsmia asks the room to please watch their language… Thanks, your friendly channel op
22:57 <masterx831> wdsmia: I did not curse you numb brain
22:57 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o wdsmia
22:57 <masterx831> &w 32817
22:57 <Romulus> masterx831: No idea!
22:57 <masterx831> &wx 32817
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22:58 <masterx831> CoderForLife: are you there?
22:58 <wdsmia> I didnt say that you cursed
22:59 <wdsmia> and its not wise to call channel ops numb brains ;)
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23:01 <masterx831> okay this channel was practically dead for the passed 30 minutes, as soon I said something at the current timestamp 22:54 you typed a message, and not to mention numb brain is just a metaphor to think before we type :-)
23:02 <masterx831> wdsmia: of course i respect you I wouldn't curse at you.
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23:03 <wdsmia> suck-ups can get kicked to :P
23:05 <masterx831> i don't i suck up i respect everyone equally
23:06 <masterx831> I wonder how long my computer been up
23:06 <masterx831> jesus feels like it's been up for 2 weeks
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23:25 <FreeLarry58> humm masterx831 must be on east coast as only 2025 here
23:26 <FreeLarry58> MTughan you playing dog again and trying to remove these unholy heathans from face again?
23:26 <MTughan> ?
23:26 <FreeLarry58> good thing irc catches excess flooding
23:26 <FreeLarry58> try thinking backwards
23:26 <MTughan> No, our power flickered and our network connection dropped. When I reconnected to the bouncer, it apparently sent too much data.
23:27 <FreeLarry58> ouch
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23:28 <FreeLarry58> trying 6.10.7 on an i7 machine - 6.6.36 sometimes drops out and then i have to reset the dns server info to get things back again - not sure whats causing it
23:29 <PovAddict> nothing is reliable anymore
23:29 <MTughan> As you've said many times, "software sucks."
23:29 <MTughan> And so do vacuums, although they have nothing to do with each other.
23:30 <FreeLarry58> humm at work it seems like they have to turn on a computer to get vacumm to start
23:31 <FreeLarry58> no wonder there is lots of dust in air
23:32 <FreeLarry58> 10.7 doesn't seem to want to restart an nqueen unit that reached 100% but didn't get to upload phase is only thing got to grip about so far - rest of it seems to be running fine
23:33 <PovAddict> "the only time Microsoft will make something that doesn't suck is the day they build a vacuum cleaner"
23:33 * FreeLarry58 goes to find lava soap to scrub dirty fingers for using forbidden w word
23:34 <FreeLarry58> then it blows?
23:34 <efc> I see ribbons are coming to Firefox...
23:34 <MTughan> Apparently, you'll have the option to switch back though.
23:34 <MTughan> Or so I hear.
23:34 <PovAddict> efc: openoffice is working on it too :P
23:35 <PovAddict> wait what
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23:35 <PovAddict> they are *seriously* coming to Firefox?
23:35 <zombie67> 'sup with pirates?
23:35 <MTughan> PovAddict: Was on Slashdot this morning.
23:35 <FreeLarry58> ribbons? what do hair decoration got to do with a fox?
23:35 <zombie67> they put out work, and now I can't return it for several days
23:36 <zombie67> who are coming to FF? Vixins?
23:36 <FreeLarry58> don't know zombie67 all work i got is already back but haven't been able to get any more for last 2 days
23:39 <efc> Maybe ribbons make sense for office with 10 billion options, but a web browser doesn't have so many
23:39 <zombie67> oh, the ribbon?
23:39 <efc> Maybe, different UIs for different programs.
23:39 <MTughan> Yeah.
23:40 <zombie67> I have never used the version of office with it. I am a neo/open/star-office user
23:40 <jackygrahamez_> can I go back to that friendly blue screen with the white text?
23:40 <zombie67> however, I have never heard anyone who liked it
23:40 <MTughan> jackygrahamez_: Sure. Unseat some RAM. :P
23:42 <FreeLarry58> well have a good night picking at the various software - think its time to nap again
23:44 <efc> The Lotus 1-2-3 type stuff wasn't bad..
23:55 <PovAddict> I don't do wysiwyg anyway
23:55 <PovAddict> like Word
23:55 <PovAddict> what you see on screen is what you'll get on paper, but is it maintainable?
23:56 <efc> I don't think I've ever really liked Word. I used it back in the DOS days, too.
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23:56 <efc> Back then it was a text editor with a graphics preview
23:56 * zombie67 LOVED 123
23:56 <PovAddict> if you make a line be a Heading, or if you make it bold and increase the font size, the document *looks* the same either way
23:56 <zombie67> mouse interface just slows it all down
23:57 * zombie67 ALSO loved fixes width fonts
23:57 <PovAddict> but in the former case, you can easily change the style of all headings in the document, and you get automatic table of contents
23:58 <PovAddict> so what you see (the same in both cases) is not what you get (different maintaintability and features)
23:59 <efc> The more advanced users use the Word "Styles" for everything
23:59 <efc> formatting related