IRC logs of #boinc for Tuesday, 2009-09-29

00:03 <MTughan> KathrynM: You were asking about libass?

00:03 <MTughan> It's for ASS/SSA subtitles.

00:11 <zombie67> too much ass in this discussion

00:11 <zombie67> or not enough

00:11 <zombie67> depending...

00:11 <Nickuwo> i think it was lacking until you joined :)

00:11 <MTughan> Well, ASS stands for Advanced SubStation Alpha. Why didn't they use ASSA? Damned if I know.

00:18 <zombie67> clearly, that would not have as been much fun.  MT, you're killing the love.

00:18 <zombie67> ;)

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00:42 <Relight> fuck

00:42 <wdsmia> asks Relight to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.

00:43 <Relight> you nigers

00:43 <MTughan> Relight: Can we help you with something?

00:43 <Relight> who is here

00:43 <Romulus> I guess here is the problem, Relight

00:43 <Relight> i will kill you all

00:43 <Relight> ;lololollol

00:43 <MTughan> forget here

00:43 <Romulus> I hear ya.

00:43 <Relight> fags

00:43 <Relight> xfffffffffffffd

00:43 <Relight> get AIDS

00:43 <MTughan> hawmps, xcamel, CoderForLife

00:43 <Relight> botfags

00:43 <Relight> suck it

00:43 <Relight> then DEAL WITH IT

00:44 <Nickuwo> haha

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00:44 <Relight> this chat is like useless

00:44 <disappearedng_> who is the idiot

00:44 <Romulus> Somebody said the idiot is probably doing an atomic transaction for each registry key it adds to HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT, disappearedng_

00:44 <Relight> you are gay

00:44 <Nickuwo> Rommies agreeing with ya

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00:44 <MTughan> forget the idiot

00:44 <Romulus> Gotcha!

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00:44 <Relight> XFD SCRIPT KIDDIES

00:45 <Nickuwo> you're fantastic

00:45 <Relight> i will anally rape all of your keylogs

00:45 <Relight> with my giant bear penis

00:45 <Relight> fags

00:45 <Nickuwo> lol

00:45 <Relight> pwned

00:45 <Nickuwo> splendid. continue my good sir!

00:45 <Relight> imma let you finish

00:46 <Nickuwo> Kayne! Brillant!

00:46 <Plasmastar> Go back to 4chan Relight.

00:46 <Relight> 4chan sucks shit

00:46 <wdsmia> asks Relight to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.

00:46 <Relight> understand me?

00:46 <Relight> i am from a far superior private site

00:46 <Relight> and 4chan isnt private nor is it superior, quite inferior infact

00:46 <Plasmastar> Yeah, 12chan doesn't count. Sorry

00:47 <Relight> i will drop a pozload in your negbot

00:47 <Relight> no 12chan is for pedos

00:47 <Relight> no pedo

00:47 <Relight> no homo

00:47 <Relight> so penisbutts

00:48 <Relight> you're all gay

00:48 <Relight> please respond

00:48 <Relight> sweet man DOUCHBAG FAGS

00:48 <Plasmastar> I'm sure you're picking it right up from your own sexuality.

00:48 <Relight> INCINERATION


00:48 <Relight> IS EVERYONE OKAY

00:49 <Plasmastar> You're not even worth trolling. Rofl.

00:49 <PovAddict> how 'bout you ignore him

00:49 <Relight> xfd you couldn troll me successfully if you tried

00:50 <Plasmastar> I know, you're far too immature/dumb.

00:50 <Relight> baw

00:50 <Relight> im gonna eat some doritos

00:50 <Relight> anyone want some

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01:10 <Tank_Master> hiya Nickuwo

01:10 <Nickuwo> hey Tank. whats up?

01:10 <Tank_Master> not much

01:11 <Nickuwo> sweet

01:13 <Tank_Master> :)

01:13 <zombie67> funny stuff

01:13 <zombie67> brb

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01:14 <Tank_Master> so you leave? :P

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03:28 <efc3> I guess I need a new UPS battery.. accidentally unplugged for a sec and it was dead right away.

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03:35 <FreeLarry58> how old the ups efc

03:36 <FreeLarry58> if over 5 years probably do need new battery

03:37 <efc> Yeah

03:37 <efc> It started whining about it a year or two ago

03:37 <efc> And I ignored it :P

03:37 <FreeLarry58> they can also get overloaded

03:37 <FreeLarry58> uh oh probably need whole new ups then as battery charger could also be burned out

03:38 <efc> I read somewhere that the batteries are only good for 2 or 3 full discharge cycles

03:39 <efc> they pull on the batt so hard they warp the plates I guess

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03:39 <FreeLarry58> that could be - try a deepcycle marine battery instead

03:40 <efc> the better ones have external terminals so you can hook up whatever you want

03:40 <FreeLarry58> yeah

03:40 <efc> mine doesn't though

03:40 <FreeLarry58> most of what i see in stores are the cheapo stuff

03:42 <efc> this is a APC back-ups CS 350

03:42 <FreeLarry58> if charging circuit still good - try hooking up an external battery too it

03:42 <efc> pretty low end

03:42 <FreeLarry58> humm only 350 watt not worth it

03:43 <efc> It claims to be charging the batteries now.. heh

03:43 <FreeLarry58> oh yah like i believe that

03:43 <efc> Like waking up the security guard after the bank has been robbed

03:43 <FreeLarry58> use a vom and check it

03:44 * FreeLarry58 doesn't think 350 watt would power even one of his machine for 1 minute before unit was drained

03:45 <efc> Its only a 5 amp-hour battery

03:45 <FreeLarry58> but if power circuit good could play around and use much larger battery to get some time from it - just would have to check batt voltage every few months

03:45 <efc> of course pulling really hard you get less than that

03:46 <FreeLarry58> lol 5 amp hr wouldn't last 30 secs here

03:47 <efc> some of these tiny little units promise 700 watts or whatever..

03:47 <FreeLarry58> till the battery plates went bad had a 180 amp hr battery from old truck powering my converter - it only ran a 400W  unit but lasted most the day

03:48 <efc> I hear what they do at the google farms is..

03:48 <efc> wire the battery in after the power supply

03:48 <efc> and dispense with the UPS, inverter et

03:48 <efc> I'm not quite sure how that would work since the PS does multiple voltages

03:49 <efc> but they have enough machines they can probably afford a few custom parts if they need

03:49 <FreeLarry58> yup use the  ups as only output and use real bateries and chargers to maintain

03:50 <efc> You'd think it would be more economical to make one big honkin UPS protected circuit for the whole datacenter

03:50 <FreeLarry58> you can get dc powr supplies that run off of dc - they just use voltage dividing network like what the ps generates -- ie ac to whatever dc voltage then divider network to porvide lower voltage

03:52 <FreeLarry58> well not really as they can probably afford those batteries like i use at work - 24 vdc and something like 20 to 25 amp draw for upto 8 hrs

03:53 <FreeLarry58> the chargers can pump in over 900 amps to battery at beginning of charge cycle for when they are discharged

03:54 <FreeLarry58> some of those batteries are still in use that they bought when building opened in the mid 70's

03:54 <efc> Wow

03:56 <efc> the DC thing would be nice if you had a solar powered house

03:56 <efc> only thing I can think of right away that really works better on AC is larger motors

03:56 <FreeLarry58> florescent lights

03:56 <efc> fundamentally I mean, large electric motors just match AC well

03:57 <efc> oh..

03:57 <efc> I always assumed you could get those for DC

03:58 <FreeLarry58> hummmm have been around large electric motors of ac and dc varieties - i think dc more controlable but have disadvantage of needing brushes for commutator

03:58 <FreeLarry58> more maintenace

03:58 <FreeLarry58> and wear

03:58 <efc> yeah, the brushes are a weak spot

03:58 <efc> AC simpler

03:59 <efc> as long as you like 1800 or 3600 RPM

03:59 <FreeLarry58> for most part

04:00 <efc> brushes are pretty noisy too

04:00 <FreeLarry58> a little less than both as need some pole slippage to generate the commutator field - else brushes and sliprings to get synchronous

04:00 * FreeLarry58 is dragging heavy on old memories

04:02 <efc> I have not played with them much but the brushless DC electric motors are pretty neat

04:03 <FreeLarry58> lets see remember a little about impedance motors - reluctance motors - synchoronous moters

04:03 <efc> crazy power to weight ratio, but require an expensive controller

04:03 <FreeLarry58> ahh lower hp and permenant magnet types

04:05 <FreeLarry58> not sure how a roating field would be generated for brushless dc tho

04:06 <FreeLarry58> dang will have to see if old manuals from basic electricity and electronic school still around - they provided a good source of info long ago

04:06 <FreeLarry58> but think got rid of them a couple decades ago

04:07 <efc> The controller switches polarity, thats the trick

04:07 <efc> so it requires expensive power transistors and electronics

04:07 <FreeLarry58> yeah would have too

04:07 <efc> this example on wikipedia is 5 grams motor weight and 11 watts

04:08 <FreeLarry58> way to small for industrial use but in electronics and control system could see use

04:09 <efc> Well, they do make them much bigger, just a small example

04:09 <efc> I've seen them up to a couple hundred watts for models

04:09 <efc> course they would get hot really fast with that much power in a tiny space but used on airplanes they get plenty of air

04:09 <FreeLarry58> lol - most of the motors i worked with were 5 hp for small and upto 300 hp for large

04:10 <FreeLarry58> generators up to (dang not sure now but think) 5 MW

04:10 <efc> Sweet

04:11 <efc> I bought a couple (brushed) motors to play with.. biggest is about a quarter horsepower in a package 2" long and 1" diamter

04:11 <FreeLarry58> not really - engine rooms where to hot and humid

04:11 <efc> Gets pretty darn hot, fast

04:12 <FreeLarry58> yeah bet thy would and low resistance to dc current

04:12 <FreeLarry58> probably burn out bearing fairly quick too

04:13 <FreeLarry58> night now efc time for a quick nap here ( 8 hours or so ) ;0

04:13 <efc> Night FreeLarry

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06:15 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

06:15 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 45.6°F / 7.6°C | Humidity: 83% | Pressure: 30.09in / 1018.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Sunny. High in the mid 60s. North wind 5 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Low in the upper 30s. East wind near 5 mph.; Wednesday - Sunny. High in the upper 60s. Southeast wind 5 to 15 mph.;

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09:00 <hawmps> any new projects using cuda (linux)?

09:03 <hawmps>

09:03 <Romulus> <> (at

09:03 <hawmps> wowza..

09:04 <MTughan> Very nice...

09:22 <hawmps> indeed.

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12:01 <PovAddict> heh

12:01 <PovAddict> well one thing is the general concept, so you know that missing symbols are a linker error and that #includes wont help

12:02 <PovAddict> er wrong chan

12:16 <yoyo[RKN]> lol

12:16 <yoyo[RKN]> must be early on your side of the globe, PovAddict

12:18 <PovAddict> 1pm

12:19 <yoyo[RKN]> oh

12:27 <quail> &wx ypad

12:27 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 66°F / 19°C | Humidity: 24% | Pressure: 29.68in / 1005hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 18mph / 30km/h | Updated: 1:30 AM CST; Scattered Clouds. High:75 ° F.; Partly Cloudy. Low:51 ° F.; Scattered Clouds. High:75 ° F.; Chance of Rain. Low:50 ° F.; Rain. High:60 ° F.; Rain. Low:48 ° F.;

12:27 <quail> 'evening all, how's everyone?

12:28 <Tank_Master> morning

12:28 <Tank_Master> just got up :P

12:28 <MTughan> Afternoon.

12:30 <yoyo[RKN]> &airport ypad

12:30 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Error: I couldn't find ypad in airport.

12:30 <MTughan> Australian, IIRC.

12:30 <MTughan>

12:30 <Romulus> Title: Adelaide Airport - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at

12:30 <yoyo[RKN]> thx

12:31 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx sxf

12:31 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 55°F / 13°C | Humidity: 82% | Pressure: 29.95in / 1014hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h | Updated: 6:20 PM CEST; Rain. High:60 ° F.; Chance of Rain. Low:39 ° F.; Scattered Clouds. High:57 ° F.; Chance of Rain. Low:51 ° F.; Chance of Rain. High:57 ° F.; Chance of Rain. Low:39 ° F.;

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14:19 <wdsmia_w> around and around it goes where it stops nobody knows... 6.10.11

14:30 <PovAddict> here we go again - updating Rommie's factoids now

14:33 <Tank_Master> lol

14:34 <Tank_Master> they broke the reported ATI card in .10

14:34 <Tank_Master> the host info doesnt include the ATI card with 6.10.10

14:35 <yomshleeshee> broked the cards o.O

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15:50 <RomW> its fixed now

15:51 <wdsmia_w>

15:51 <Romulus> <> (at

15:51 <RomW> Turned out to just need server-side changes

15:51 <RomW> With David's last checkin, it'll show multiple co-procs if they exist

15:51 <RomW> One Nvidia and one ATI for example

15:54 <MTughan> Apparently, the Nvidia drivers will turn off PhysX support (and possibly CUDA with it) if the main graphics card isn't another Nvidia card.

15:56 <Tank_Master> o0

15:59 <MTughan> Here's the link:

15:59 <Romulus> <> (at

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16:51 <Tank_Master> microsoft's free av is out now

16:51 <Romulus> Title: Virus, Spyware & Malware Protection | Microsoft Security Essentials (at

16:51 <Tank_Master> they discontinued onecare, and are now giving away this.

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17:20 <wdsmia> re-hi

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17:44 <CoderForLife> hello

17:44 <CoderForLife> looking at a re-fi statement from the bank

17:54 <CoderForLife> bbiab - going to get educated by my son on JQuery

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17:57 <jackygrahamez_> gu'

17:57 <jackygrahamez_> hi

17:57 <jackygrahamez_> I got a problem on my client

17:57 <jackygrahamez_> Its saying

17:57 <jackygrahamez_> 9/29/2009 5:54:49 PM     DrugDiscovery     Message from server: No work sent 9/29/2009 5:54:49 PM     DrugDiscovery     Message from server: (reached daily quota of 4 tasks)

18:08 <PovAddict> and?

18:08 <Romulus> I guess and is considering if it was ok to have NFS homes, PovAddict

18:18 <jackygrahamez_> I can't figure out why I'm not getting any work

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18:28 <jackygrahamez_> &wx 20011

18:28 <Romulus> jackygrahamez_: Temperature: 64.6°F / 18.1°C | Humidity: 54% | Pressure: 29.74in / 1007.0hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 13.0mph / 20.9km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Lows in the lower 50s. West winds 10 to 15 mph.; Wednesday - Mostly cloudy. Isolated showers in the afternoon. Highs in the upper 60s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 20 (1 more message)

18:28 <jackygrahamez_> &more

18:28 <Romulus> jackygrahamez_: percent.; Wednesday Night - Mostly cloudy with isolated showers in the evening...then mostly clear after midnight. Lows in the mid 40s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent.;

18:34 <PovAddict> probably because you reached the daily quota...?

18:35 <wdsmia> lol

18:35 <jackygrahamez_> my quota is 500

18:35 <jackygrahamez_> why does it say 4

18:35 <PovAddict> *your* quota, or the project's quota in config.xml?

18:35 <jackygrahamez_> the projects quota

18:35 <PovAddict> your quota is 4

18:35 <jackygrahamez_> where do I control my personal?

18:35 <PovAddict> 500 is the maximum your quota can reach

18:36 <PovAddict> I guess I'll bump priority for a certain to-do item...

18:37 <jackygrahamez_> well anyway it seems like I'm getting short changed on this quota...I mean only 4...I better talk to this admin

18:37 <jackygrahamez_> oh thats me

18:38 <PovAddict> your quota is reduced when you return invalid tasks

18:39 <jackygrahamez_> any way I can manually change that?

18:39 <jackygrahamez_> I had cygwin terminal running

18:39 <jackygrahamez_> It must have sabbatoged the work

18:39 <PovAddict> edit your computer's row in the host table

18:42 <Tank_Master> &forget and

18:42 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: There is no such factoid.

18:42 <Tank_Master> forget and

18:42 <Romulus> 10-4, Tank_Master.

18:44 <jackygrahamez_> ah thanks

18:45 <jackygrahamez_> max_results_day

18:45 <Tank_Master> set it to 50 billion

18:45 <jackygrahamez_> I'll set it to yo moma :-)

18:45 * wdsmia pushes Tank_Master into a crevasse

18:46 * Tank_Master burns wdsmia's house down

18:46 * wdsmia shoots arsonists

18:47 <CoderForLife> getting a bit personal?

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