IRC logs of #boinc for Wednesday, 2009-10-07

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04:04 <efc> &math convert 2 kg to pounds

04:04 <Romulus> efc: 4.4092452437

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05:08 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 51.6F / 10.9C | Humidity: 72% | Pressure: 29.54in / 1000.2hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 2.2mph / 3.5km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. Highs in the lower 60s. West winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 30 mph.; Tonight - Clear. Lows in the lower 40s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Thursday - Partly sunny with a slight chance of showers in (1 more message)

05:08 <CoderForLife> &more

05:08 <Romulus> CoderForLife: the morning...then cloudy with a chance of showers in the afternoon. Highs in the mid 60s. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.;

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06:20 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 38.2F / 3.4C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 30.03in / 1016.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Sunny...breezy. High in the mid 60s. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph with gusts to around 20 mph increasing to south 15 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph in the afternoon.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening...then mostly (1 more message)

06:20 <wdsmia> &more

06:20 <Romulus> wdsmia: cloudy with a 40 percent chance of showers overnight. Not as cool. Low in the mid 40s. South wind 10 to 15 mph decreasing to 5 mph after midnight.; Thursday - Rain likely. Cooler. High in the mid 50s. North wind 5 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 70 percent.;

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07:44 <Romulus> axxum: Temperature: 77°F / 25°C | Humidity: 39% | Pressure: 30.15in / 1021hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: Variable | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h | Updated: 2:30 PM EEST; Clear. High:73 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:57 F.; Clear. High:73 F.; Clear. Low:51 F.; Clear. High:77 F.; Clear. Low:57 F.;

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08:57 <zombie67> MT?

08:57 <zombie67> oh

08:59 <zombie67> Will this mobo support a PCI-E CUDA or ATO card?

08:59 <zombie67> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182101

08:59 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/2m2j9l> (at www.newegg.com)

09:00 <kathryn_> hmmmm... new media center.  mythtv or xbmc?

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09:22 <zombie67> pov?

09:22 <Romulus> Somebody said pov is board, zombie67

09:22 <zombie67> hm

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11:35 <PovAddict> zombie67: boo

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11:53 <zombie67> hi pov

11:53 <zombie67> two questions

11:54 <zombie67> the quick one:  Did anyone submit a yes-to-all RFE in trac yet?

11:54 <zombie67> the second is just an observation, not a question

11:54 <zombie67> I was resetting hydrogen on all my windows machines

11:55 <zombie67> but ran into an error message, if there were any hydrogen tasks running

11:56 <zombie67> [error] couldn't delete file (path)/applicationname

11:56 <zombie67> it did remove all the tasks, even the active one.

11:57 <zombie67> then, when I reset it again, no error message, and application gone

11:57 <zombie67> I wonder if it has something to do with tasks running in a wrapper

11:57 <zombie67> perhaps the reset tries to delete the app before the wrapper was done using it.

12:28 <PovAddict> right, highly possible

12:34 <PovAddict> boinc aborts all apps

12:34 <PovAddict> tells wrapper to quit

12:34 <PovAddict> wrapper maybe tells wrapped app to quit but not fast enough

12:34 <PovAddict> boinc proceeds to delete files and fails

12:35 <PovAddict> or maybe in the "reset" situation, BOINC kills the wrapper instead of gracefully telling it to quit, so it just *can't* quit the wrapped app

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13:22 <zombie67> so, is this a bug then?

13:25 <PovAddict> it might be... I'd have to track it down

13:25 <PovAddict> any idea what "applicationname" was?

13:26 <zombie67> projects/hydrogenathome,org/autodock_1.041_windows_intelx86.exe

13:26 <zombie67> .org

13:26 <PovAddict> ok, that's definitely not the wrapper

13:28 <PovAddict> exit_tasks() gives the app (in this case the wrapper) five seconds to quit

13:28 <PovAddict> if it doesn't quit, the client will kill it "forcefully"

13:29 <PovAddict> if the wrapper is killed forcefully, it can't kill the sub-apps

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13:31 <PovAddict> the wrapper, when told to quit, should kill the wrapped app forcefully within 1 second

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13:37 <scitor> hi

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13:47 <zombie67> well, whatever the case, it requires a double reset to completely reset.

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14:31 <quail> 'morning all, how's everyone?

14:31 <yomshleeshee> hey quail

14:32 <Tank_Master> morning

14:34 <quail> brb, with only about 5 hours sleep I need caffeine

14:34 * yomshleeshee understands, sips some coffee himself.

14:40 <quail> and I am downloading heaps of distro's from the net before my ADSL2+ extreme gets disconnected on the 19th this month

14:41 <quail> &wx ypad

14:41 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 46°F / 8°C | Humidity: 76% | Pressure: 30.36in / 1028hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h | Updated: 4:00 AM CST; Clear. High:60 F.; Clear. Low:46 F.; Clear. High:60 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:46 F.; Clear. High:66 F.; Clear. Low:50 F.;

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14:50 <quail> &time

14:50 <Romulus> quail: 02:50 PM, October 07, 2009

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15:02 <yoyo[RKN]> &time

15:02 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: 03:02 PM, October 07, 2009

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15:59 <yomshleeshee> ok, can't find it. remind me, which function do you want to count the total CPU time the application has be running

15:59 <PovAddict> hmm?

15:59 <yomshleeshee> doing some redesigning and can't remember

15:59 <PovAddict> BOINC already counts your app's CPU time

16:00 <yomshleeshee> so then, for example, the time calls in the wrapper are only needed because it forks another process for the science part

16:00 <PovAddict> oh wrapper

16:00 <yomshleeshee> and if you don't do wrapper business it's unnecessary

16:00 <yomshleeshee> no without wrapper

16:00 <yomshleeshee> I just used that as an example to find the function

16:00 <PovAddict> I mean, are you forking another process?

16:01 <yomshleeshee> nope

16:01 <yomshleeshee> so

16:01 <yomshleeshee> suppose I have science_4.10_windoze.exe

16:01 <PovAddict> then why do you need to report CPU time yourself?

16:01 <yomshleeshee> and it runs my science

16:01 <yomshleeshee> just double checking

16:01 <yomshleeshee> that would explain why I can't find it o.O

16:02 <yomshleeshee> like I said I'm doing some redesigning and I wanted to make sure I didn't leave anything out

16:02 <yomshleeshee> googled and couldn't find anything (except when the wrapper does it, but I assume that's cause it spawns a separate process)

16:02 <zombie67> I have 4x 9400 GT PCI cards on order

16:03 <yoyo[RKN]> ^^

16:04 <PovAddict> yomshleeshee: if you're not spawning a separate process, I don't see any reason for an app to report its own CPU time usage instead of letting BOINC measure it for you

16:04 <zombie67> so my older machines without PCIe can do some GPU crunching.

16:04 <yomshleeshee> then we're good

16:04 <yomshleeshee> like I said, that explains why I couldn't find anything

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17:56 <quail> SysInfo: Linux 2.6.30-bpo.2-amd64 |  Dual Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     E8200  @ 2.66GHz 1998.000 MHz | Bogomips: 10666.6 | Mem: 2897/3967M [3|||||||4|||] | Diskspace: 446.82G Free: 321.87G | Procs: 150 | Uptime: 9 days 15 hrs 42 mins 48 secs | Load: 0.18 0.31 0.34  | Screen: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8600 GT (rev a1) | eth0: In: 14.77G Out: 363.70M

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