IRC logs of #boinc for Thursday, 2009-10-29

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01:23 <efc> in the past quadros have been like the regular cards with better tested drivers and a couple extra features

01:27 <Tank_Master> and estra stress testing

01:33 <efc> There were some instances where you could turn a geforce into a quadro through a register mod..

01:33 <efc> registry

01:38 <Tank_Master> or a resister mod

01:38 <Tank_Master> back in the geforce 2 days

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06:22 <hawmps> 'lo

06:27 <wdsmia>

06:27 <Romulus> <> (at

06:29 <wdsmia> 100M :)

07:11 <hawmps> BOINC 6.10.17 released for all platforms

07:11 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

07:12 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 51.0F / 10.6C | Humidity: 94% | Pressure: 29.79in / 1008.7hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Breezy. Scattered thunderstorms in the morning. Widespread showers through the day. A slight chance of thunderstorms in the afternoon. High in the upper 50s. Southeast wind 15 to 20 mph. Chance of precipitation near 100 (1 more message)

07:12 <wdsmia> &more

07:12 <Romulus> wdsmia: percent.; Tonight - Cloudy. Showers likely and isolated thunderstorms through midnight...then a chance of showers after midnight. Breezy. Low in the upper 40s. South wind 15 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph. Chance of precipitation 70 percent.; Friday - Partly sunny. Breezy. High in the mid 50s. Southwest wind 15 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph.;

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08:41 <e-30> how is everyone doing

08:59 <hawmps> 'lo e

09:00 <e-30> hey hawmps how is it going

09:10 <e-30> well i am going to hath to restart getting new vid deivers

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11:50 <KathrynM> well.  I've had my first dream in Korean.

11:50 <PovAddict> lol

11:50 <KathrynM> Not very interesting.  Just me saying "It's OK.  I'm crazy." to every person I met.

11:50 <PovAddict> well ain't that fitting...

11:50 <KathrynM> Then again, my first dream in Spanish was my running around my house yelling "Donde estan mis zapatos?"

11:51 <PovAddict> you have a multilingual subconcious

11:51 <KathrynM> lol

11:51 <KathrynM> Only when I'm studying

12:00 <PovAddict> KathrynM: did you see the screenshots I sent you on MSN?

12:00 <KathrynM> yeah

12:00 <KathrynM> I've not played much with that stuff on KDE4

12:00 <PovAddict> er gtalk

12:00 <KathrynM> I'm still not a big fan of it

12:09 <PovAddict> oh btw, I casually saw a package in aptitude list that you may be interseted in

12:09 <PovAddict> "krecipes"

12:10 <PovAddict> I remember you were trying to organize recipe web bookmarks a while ago

12:10 <PovAddict> @KathrynM

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12:37 <KathrynM> I'll look at it PovAddict

12:37 <KathrynM> Right now I'm just using a private blog

12:37 <KathrynM> now off to bed (again)

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13:10 <desti>

13:10 <Romulus> Title: Ubuntu und Kubuntu Linux 9.10 Karmic Koala | Planet 64Bit (at

13:11 <PovAddict> I moved *away* from kubuntu two days ago

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13:55 <Romulus> <> (at

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15:06 <PovAddict> &wx eze

15:06 <PovAddict> oh yea, Romulus is ignoring me

15:08 <hawmps> try again

15:08 <PovAddict> &wx eze

15:08 <Romulus> PovAddict: Temperature: 90°F / 32°C | Humidity: 59% | Pressure: 29.71in / 1006hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 12mph / 18km/h | Updated: 4:00 PM ARST; Clear. High:87 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:73 F.; Chance of a Thunderstorm. High:91 F.; Chance of a Thunderstorm. Low:51 F.; Chance of a Thunderstorm. High:75 F.; Thunderstorm. Low:46 F.;

15:08 <hawmps> ok, fixed.

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17:23 <wdsmia> re-hi

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18:12 <yomshleeshee> good one

18:25 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

18:25 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 53.6F / 12.0C | Humidity: 96% | Pressure: 29.60in / 1002.3hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Tonight - Showers and isolated thunderstorms through midnight... then a chance of drizzle after midnight. Breezy. Some thunderstorms may produce heavy rainfall through midnight. Low in the mid 40s. South wind 10 to 20 mph. (2 more messages)

18:25 <wdsmia> &more

18:25 <Romulus> wdsmia: Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Friday - Mostly cloudy. Breezy. High in the upper 40s. Temperature steady or slowly falling in the afternoon. Southwest wind 15 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph.; Friday Night - Mostly cloudy in the evening then becoming partly cloudy. Breezy...colder. Low in the mid 30s. West wind 10 to 20 mph.; Flash Flood Watch for Polk County in effect (1 more message)

18:25 <wdsmia> &more

18:25 <Romulus> wdsmia: until 7:00 AM CDT on October 30, 2009;

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18:52 <yomshleeshee> &wx stl

18:52 <Romulus> yomshleeshee: Temperature: 61F / 16C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 29.76in / 1008hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 17mph / 28km/h ; Tonight - Showers and scattered thunderstorms. Locally heavy rainfall possible. Near steady temperature in the mid 50s. Southeast wind 10 to 20 mph. Chance of rain near 100 percent.; Friday - Cloudy. Occasional showers in the (2 more messages)

18:52 <yomshleeshee> &more

18:52 <Romulus> yomshleeshee: morning...then chance of showers in the afternoon. Locally heavy rainfall possible. Near steady temperature in the mid 50s. Southwest wind 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 80 percent.; Friday Night - Colder. Mostly cloudy with a 30 percent chance of rain showers. Low around 40. West wind 10 to 15 mph.; Flash Flood Warning for Saint Louis County in effect until 10:00 PM CDT on October 29, (1 more message)

18:52 <yomshleeshee> no more, no more!

18:53 <Rookie_69> Flood warning on the Flatlands... Imagine that!

18:57 <yomshleeshee> yeah, geez

18:59 <Rookie_69> Many moons ago, I lived in a little house on the prairie... It was near a large lake... The lot was raised about 8-12"... The rivers exiting the lake were all dammed, I think... One morning, I woke up to find that I was living on a rectangular island. I think that was about 1967 or '68.

18:59 <PovAddict> &wx eze

18:59 <Romulus> PovAddict: Temperature: 91°F / 33°C | Humidity: 55% | Pressure: 29.62in / 1003hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h | Updated: 8:00 PM ARST; Clear. High:87 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:73 F.; Chance of a Thunderstorm. High:91 F.; Chance of a Thunderstorm. Low:51 F.; Chance of a Thunderstorm. High:75 F.; Thunderstorm. Low:46 F.;

19:01 <Rookie_69> &wx yaw

19:01 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Temperature: 33.8°F / 1.0°C | Humidity: 72% | Pressure: 30.21in / 1022.9hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 4.6mph / 7.4km/h | Updated: 8:01 PM ADT; Today - Sunny with cloudy periods. Wind northeast 20 km/h (12 mph) gusting to 40 km/h (25 mph). High 9C(48F). UV index 3 or moderate.; Tonight - A few clouds. Wind north 20 km/h (12 mph) becoming light (1 more message)

19:02 <Rookie_69> &more

19:02 <Romulus> Rookie_69: near midnight. Low -2C(28F).; Friday - Sunny with cloudy periods. High 10C(50F).;

19:03 <Rookie_69> Low- minus Brr.

19:03 <Rookie_69> Almost time to fire up another crunch-box.

19:04 <wdsmia> lol home heating by boinc

19:05 <PovAddict> other way around here

19:05 <Rookie_69> My thermostats have been turned up above 7C maybe thrice since I moved in here.

19:05 <PovAddict> it's hot as hell *and* I didn't install BOINC yet since I reinstalled the OS

19:07 <Rookie_69> Heat only gets turned up after a winter power failure.

19:30 <Tank_Master> lol

19:31 <Rookie_69> Old boxes=heat.

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19:50 <Tank_Master> will a geforce 250 be slowed by hooking it into a pci-e 4x slot?

19:50 <MTughan> PCIe 1 or PCIe 2?

19:50 <Tank_Master> 1

19:50 <Tank_Master> id assume

19:50 <MTughan> PCIe v2 4x == PCIe v1 8x

19:50 <Tank_Master> 3 16x slots

19:51 <MTughan> What's the chipset?

19:51 <Tank_Master> asus p5q pro...

19:51 <MTughan> P45 I think.

19:52 <MTughan> I think all the Asus P5Q series are P45s.

19:52 <MTughan> P45 has PCIe v2.

19:52 <Tank_Master> is sure they are all the same, just dont recall rt off what

19:52 <MTughan> I have a P5Q-E, with a P45.

19:54 <Tank_Master> er no what

19:54 <Tank_Master> wrong mobo

19:54 <Tank_Master> its the 17 comp :P

19:54 <Tank_Master> i7*

19:55 <Tank_Master> P6T standard

19:55 <MTughan> Those should all be PCIe v2 too.

19:55 <Tank_Master> even the 4x?

19:55 <MTughan> Unless they have some weird stuff going on, yes. Want me to confirm that for you?

19:56 <Tank_Master> im looking it up now

19:56 <Tank_Master> wtf, asus has its own d/l manager now?

19:56 <Tank_Master> its hella bigger than the bios update file

19:58 <MTughan> Oops... That's what I get for transferring my FF plugins from Windows to Linux.

19:58 <MTughan> Remembered download location for DownThemAll was C:\Users\Michael\Downloads. I need /home/mtughan/Download.

20:01 <Tank_Master> 3 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (at x16/x16/x4 mode)

20:02 <Tank_Master> itll have both a geforce 250 and a ati 5770 in it

20:02 <MTughan> And the only PCIe v1 is the x1 slot.

20:02 <MTughan> Only thing I have to ask is if the x4 slot has an open end.

20:02 <Tank_Master> yeah, and its burried in the slot right below the first 16x

20:03 <Tank_Master> its 16x physical

20:03 <Tank_Master> 4x wiered

20:03 <MTughan> Oh, it's an x16 slot with only x4 linkage. That'll work fine.

20:03 <Tank_Master> ok

20:04 <MTughan> You may have a little bit of a slowdown, but most GPU applications should just need the bandwidth at the beginning and end of tasks if they all fit in GPU memory.

20:04 <Tank_Master> its 1gb

20:04 <Tank_Master> so id hone so :P

20:04 <Tank_Master> hope*

20:04 <MTughan> Yeah, just about everything should fit in 1GB. If it doesn't, the project needs to rethink it's app. :P

20:06 <Tank_Master> yep

20:07 <Tank_Master> I jsut dont want the 5770 right up to the 250 and cant breath

20:07 <Tank_Master> so im moving the 250 down to the 4x slot

20:27 <Rookie_69> NN.

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20:29 <Rookie_69> Forgot to make mt bed...

20:29 <Rookie_69> ?

20:29 <Rookie_69> My...

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20:29 <Tank_Master> bummer

20:30 <wdsmia> lol

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20:58 <Tank_Master> well this sucks

20:58 <Tank_Master> buis got reset somehow when I omstalled the ati card

20:59 <Tank_Master> installed*

20:59 <Tank_Master> so I updated the bios

20:59 <Tank_Master> and now windows wont boot

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21:59 <Tank_Master> RomW still up?

22:11 <PovAddict> Tank_Master: can this do GPGPU?

22:11 <Romulus> <> (at

22:12 <Tank_Master> depends on the project I believe

22:12 <PovAddict> well I mean if it supports that at all

22:13 <PovAddict> eg. if it was an nvidia card I'd ask "does this card support CUDA at all?"

22:13 <MTughan> Sure, if you can use OpenGL.

22:13 <MTughan> I think you're asking if it supports Stream SDK though, and that'd I'd have to find a list for.

22:13 <PovAddict> well yeah...

22:13 <PovAddict> nobody does general computing with OpenGL nowadays..

22:14 <MTughan> Looks like everything from the X1900 on supports Stream SDK.

22:14 <Tank_Master> poem is looking into useiong ogl

22:16 <Tank_Master> There are plans to expand the poem-code to "poem++".

22:16 <Tank_Master> They are actually working on a OpenCL code, so GPUs (both NVIDIA and ATI) will be supported soon. This will not be a simple rewriting of the existing code but they changed their calculations based on the results they got so far to improve their code.After they have written the poem++ code it will also be released in a sort of GPL license, so that 3rd party optimiziations will be possible.

22:17 <Tank_Master> I dunno if they plan on a seperate project from boinc, or somehow use boinc to run OGL

22:17 <PovAddict> oh OpenCL, that's totally different :)

22:17 <Tank_Master> er

22:17 <Tank_Master> CL

22:17 <Tank_Master> der

22:17 <Tank_Master> lol

22:19 <MTughan> I could see them working on an OpenCL version.

22:19 <PovAddict> BOINC has no need to support OpenCL

22:20 <MTughan> Because CUDA and Stream still don't work properly?

22:20 <PovAddict> no, because it doesn't need to

22:20 <PovAddict> OpenCL *uses* CUDA, doesn't it?

22:21 <MTughan> I think it's another API altogether, although Nvidia's OpenCL implementation may use CUDA underneath.

22:21 <PovAddict> well that's my point

22:21 <MTughan> Just add the app as both a CUDA and a Stream app?

22:22 <Tank_Master> the same OCL app is suposed to run on any vid card

22:22 <Tank_Master> that supports OCL

22:22 <PovAddict> BOINC doesn't support stream; it doesn't have to

22:22 <PovAddict> all it does is detect there is an ATI GPU

22:22 <Tank_Master> and the driver version

22:22 <PovAddict> it'd be like saying BOINC should support Fortran

22:23 <PovAddict> Fortran is just another way to program a CPU

22:23 <PovAddict> and BOINC supports detecting a CPU and running an app on it; that's all that is needed

22:23 <PovAddict> it's up to the app to use Fortran or not

22:26 <MTughan> OpenCL stuff may need to detect a driver version.

22:29 <PovAddict> so OpenCL isn't a library that the app is linked to and would work on any CUDA driver? you need the driver to support OpenCL?

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23:09 <sethy> hey guys

23:10 <sethy> my dad baught me a new ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT

23:10 <sethy> supposedly has GPU support

23:10 <sethy> and i'm new to this so i'm wondering how i get this to work with boinc?

23:11 <sethy> Pov tells me for ATI you need 6.10 boinc and i have 6.10.16

23:11 <MTughan> Yes, the HD 2600 should support Stream, although you'll need a project that also supports it.

23:11 <MTughan> 6.10 is the first BOINC series to have ATI support.

23:12 <sethy> any projects that support strean?

23:12 <MTughan> Collatz is the one I know of, but Tank_Master and zombie67 could probably give you more.

23:12 * sethy looks at Tank_Master

23:13 <sethy> something tells me he's not there/busy

23:13 <sethy> =[

23:14 <sethy> oh googles and found colatz and milkyway

23:15 <MTughan> MilkyWay is one, but I don't know if they have ATI support in the server.

23:16 <sethy> well i'll give it a try anyway

23:16 <sethy> then we'll find out

23:16 <sethy> do i just attach the project and click update?

23:28 <sethy> milkyway doesnt support hd2600

23:28 <sethy> only HD3800, HD4700 and HD4800 series as well as Firestream 9100 and 9200 series

23:32 <MTughan> Ah, right. Needs double-precision support.

23:34 <sethy> i'm not too sure on the collatz one

23:34 <sethy> trying to find out

23:34 <sethy> cant see anything

23:34 <sethy> although i have a CPU wu

23:36 <sethy> gonna update from .16 > .17

23:39 <PovAddict> does boinc say it detected your card?

23:39 <PovAddict> in messages

23:41 <sethy> apparently not

23:41 <sethy> 10/30/2009 2:37:06 AMNo usable GPUs found

23:44 <sethy> product has a GPU though so like wtf?

23:46 <MTughan> Catalyst version?

23:48 <sethy> version 2007 :/

23:48 <PovAddict> lol

23:49 <sethy> guessing update r b required?

23:51 <MTughan> 7.x?

23:51 <MTughan> Oh yeah... 8.12 was the first to support any kind of GPGPU on ATI cards.

23:52 <sethy> 2007.0517.something.something

23:52 <sethy> getting 9.10 anyway

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23:54 <sethy> well on the install thingy it had an option for folding

23:54 <sethy> and i'm like noooo

23:56 <sethy> ok now i dont know what time it is

23:56 <sethy> the clocks went back the other day

23:56 <sethy> so i set them all again

23:56 <MTughan> 11:57 EDT.

23:56 <sethy> and now my computer has gone back 2 hours...

23:57 <sethy> computer says 0255 phone and clock says 0355

23:57 <PovAddict> you aren't supposed to change your computer clock for DST

23:57 <MTughan> The latter clock is GMT.

23:57 <MTughan> Or UTC, whatever you want to call it.

23:57 <MTughan> Dunno what the computer's getting it from.

23:57 <PovAddict> it should change by itself

23:57 <sethy> yeah thats what i meant

23:57 <sethy> it did

23:57 <sethy> but now

23:57 <PovAddict> and if it doesn't, then change the *timezone*, not the clock

23:57 <sethy> its 0255///

23:58 <sethy> timezone is gmt london

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