IRC logs of #boinc for Wednesday, 2009-11-04

00:05 <Tank_Master> got tomnes of collatz just now

00:05 <Tank_Master> zombie67

00:05 <zombie67> yep

00:05 <zombie67> back up (again)

00:05 <Tank_Master> lol, can her my GPU fans spin up :P

00:05 <Tank_Master> hear*

00:06 <zombie67> still waiting for the dual 5xxx

00:08 <zombie67> anyone ever try the nvidia contrl panel when trying to OC a dual GPU machie?

00:08 <Tank_Master> I have

00:08 <Tank_Master> on my geforce 7900

00:09 <Tank_Master> didnt get to far though

00:09 <Tank_Master> wasnt worth the risk of lockup

00:09 <zombie67> keeps locking up my machine when I click accept on the agreement

00:09 <Tank_Master> huh

00:09 <Tank_Master> that I havent seen

00:09 <Tank_Master> I use it mostly now to increase the fan speed

00:09 <zombie67> sorry, rebooting

00:09 <Tank_Master> k

00:10 <zombie67> can't even get that far

00:10 <zombie67> to get to the OC features, you have to click ok on agreement

00:11 <Tank_Master> yeah

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04:33 <Tank_Master> &bighello

04:33 <Romulus> Hello Celelibi_, clusty_, CoderForLife, ComradeHaz, deprecated, desti, efc, ix, jasong, kathryn__, Masterx831, MTughan, PovAddict, quail, Romulus, stux|RC-only, synapt, Tank_Master, Turf, up365, wdsmia, Webu, and xionyc

04:44 <efc> &8ball

04:44 <Romulus> efc: You know the answer better than I.

04:46 <quail> Tank_Master: hii!

04:46 <Tank_Master> hiya quail

04:48 <efc> I thought we turned out the lights in the southern hemisphere to save electricity.

04:48 <quail> laptop and 3G dongle :-P

04:49 <quail> 10/11 days till the big move

04:54 <Tank_Master> excited?

04:55 <quail> not atm, cause packing sucks

04:56 <Tank_Master> lol

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05:03 <Tank_Master> damn netsplits

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05:09 <Tank_Master> poor MTughan

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06:22 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

06:22 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 41.5°F / 5.3°C | Humidity: 70% | Pressure: 30.15in / 1020.9hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 3.0mph / 4.8km/h ; Today - Sunny in the morning then becoming mostly sunny. Breezy. High in the lower 50s. Northwest wind 15 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Low in the lower 30s. West wind 5 to 10 mph.; Thursday - (1 more message)

06:22 <wdsmia> &more

06:22 <Romulus> wdsmia: Sunny. High in the upper 50s. South wind 5 to 15 mph.;

08:13 * xionyc yawns, stretches, and greets another day with extreme indifference.

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14:02 <PovAddict> I need a project that updates the progress bar frequently (= not yoyo :P) and doesn't have too long WUs

14:02 <PovAddict> I'm out of date in projects' WU length

14:02 <PovAddict> how long are einstein's?

14:03 <wdsmia> 5 or 6 hrs on a quad

14:03 <PovAddict> it's multithreaded?

14:04 <wdsmia> no

14:04 <PovAddict> then being a quad seems irrelevant :P

14:05 <wdsmia> oh the box is... thought you were talking the app

14:05 <PovAddict> I mean, the box being a quad won't make the WUs any faster

14:06 <Tank_Master> aqua I believe is the only multithreaded project

14:06 <PovAddict> hmm einstein connection timeout

14:06 <PovAddict> now it worked, and gave me the following contradiction:

14:06 <PovAddict> mié 04 nov 2009 16:06:18 ART|Einstein@Home|Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks

14:06 <PovAddict> mié 04 nov 2009 16:06:18 ART|Einstein@Home|Message from server: (Project has no jobs available)

14:13 <wdsmia> cpu/gpu?

14:13 <PovAddict> my client doesn't support GPUs

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17:51 <wdsmia> &ping

17:51 <Romulus> pong

17:55 <Tank_Master> http://www.todaysbigthing.com/2009/11/03

17:55 <Romulus> Title: $200,000 Worth of Beer Destroyed is Today's BIG Thing - NOV 03, 2009 (at www.todaysbigthing.com)

17:56 <MTughan> Letterman took that clip yesterday and spliced it into scenes from 60 Minutes of an H1N1 vaccine factory. xD

17:58 <Tank_Master> lol

18:05 <Tank_Master> http://www.todaysbigthing.com/2009/11/04

18:05 <Romulus> Title: Interview Fail is Today's BIG Thing - NOV 04, 2009 (at www.todaysbigthing.com)

18:09 <CoderForLife> Win 7 patches reboot - bbl

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18:17 <elhoir> hi guys

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18:31 <CoderForLife> wee

18:32 <PovAddict> have any of you boincers with many computers tried the Synergy2 tool?

18:33 <PovAddict> it lets you control multiple machines with a single keyboard/mouse

18:33 <PovAddict> but doesn't show their screen

18:34 <PovAddict> you move the mouse to the screen edge and it pops in the screen of the other computer, as if you had dual monitors

18:36 <wdsmia> been running synergy at work for ever where have you been? :P

18:36 <wdsmia> err for ever

18:36 <Starfury^> synergy2

18:37 <Starfury^> its ace

18:37 <Starfury^> i run 5 pc's and a laptop using one kb and mouse

18:37 <Starfury^> yeh had it since it was still be developed

18:37 <Starfury^> few years now

18:38 <Starfury^> does the autostart bug affect 7 as well as vista?

18:39 <PovAddict> wdsmia: where have I been? not sure, but wherever I was, I didn't hear you mention it :)

18:39 <elhoir> anyone using Ubuntu 9.04?

18:39 <PovAddict> it's not news to me; but I just now actually *tried* it

18:40 <elhoir> i have a problem with it and BOINC after upgrading from 8.10 :S

18:40 <elhoir> fan is always running at full speed, while it wasnt in 8.10

18:40 <PovAddict> I think that was a bug of 8.10

18:41 <elhoir> uh, uh

18:41 <PovAddict> something didn't consider BOINC as "CPU in use" so Ubuntu slowed down the CPU

18:41 <elhoir> are you sure it isnt a 9.04 bug? :P

18:41 <PovAddict> I used 8.04, and I had to configure it myself so it didn't throttle down the CPU clock

18:43 <elhoir> well, i installed BOINC with .10, CPU worked fine, at 100%, but fan didnt make such a big noise

18:43 <elhoir> and now it makes it, with 9.04

18:43 <elhoir> :S

18:44 <wdsmia> fan noise is cooling and thats a good thing :P

18:44 <PovAddict> well yes, in 8.04 it said 100% too

18:44 <PovAddict> 100% use with the CPU clocked down to 1.5GHz

18:45 <elhoir> wdsmia: not when you have to sleep in the same roon laptop is :P

18:45 <PovAddict> instead of 2.4GHz as it should say

18:45 <PovAddict> when did you upgrade?

18:45 <elhoir> yesterday

18:45 * wdsmia used to sleep in helicopters for a living and thats a 54ft fan

18:46 <elhoir> O_O

18:46 <elhoir> wtf

18:46 <elhoir> ok well :D

18:47 <PovAddict> elhoir: what's your name in boinc?

18:47 <PovAddict> "elhoir" gives me no matches

18:47 <elhoir> same as in IRC :)

18:47 <elhoir> mm..... "name" is.. real name? email address?

18:48 <PovAddict> hmm

18:48 <PovAddict> then can you give a link to your account?

18:49 <elhoir> account .. where? seti@home? docking@home?

18:50 <PovAddict> any

18:50 <elhoir> (these are the 2 projects im in)

18:51 <elhoir> PovAddict: maybe "Javier Fernandez"? (my real name)

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18:54 <elhoir> ...hello?

18:54 <PovAddict> no hits on docking

18:57 <elhoir> i have an account at docking@home

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18:57 <PovAddict> well "javier fernandez" is not the name on it

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19:03 <elhoir> re-enabled BOINC again .... and f**ing fan noise sounding again :(

19:03 <PovAddict> get a better fan

19:03 <elhoir> no, its not faulting

19:03 <PovAddict> I didn't say it was

19:03 <elhoir> ugh

19:04 <PovAddict> but maybe it's not good enough :)

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19:04 <PovAddict> there are some systems that make *no noise at all* and yet probably cool better than your fan

19:04 <elhoir> its an internal fan in my lappy, so  i (cant/dont know how to) change it

19:04 <PovAddict> (although those usually involve water)

19:04 <PovAddict> ahh a laptop

19:04 <PovAddict> well I wouldn't run BOINC on a laptop without manually setting throttling in BOINC anyway

19:05 <PovAddict> and definitely set it so it doesn't run while on battery

19:05 <elhoir> yeah i have done it

19:05 <elhoir> ... and, why wouldnt you do it?

19:06 <elhoir> (i have lappy on 24h a day, thats why i installed BOINC in there)

19:06 <elhoir> (i have to have lappy on because my mother uses it for internet browsing and he has no idea about how to boot it, for example)

19:07 <elhoir> she*

19:07 <PovAddict> boot? I never shutdown my laptop

19:07 <PovAddict> I close the lid

19:07 <PovAddict> and it suspends

19:11 <elhoir> im not doing even that... just leaves laptop idle

19:11 <elhoir> leave*

19:21 <elhoir> i just installed BOINC in the only pc at work with admin privileges (winXP) hehe

19:21 * elhoir whistles

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19:45 <elhoir> i have just set 70% CPU maximum in BOINC

19:45 <elhoir> 75%

19:52 <elhoir> PovAddict: http://es.boincstats.com/stats/boinc_user_graph.php?pr=bo&id=0614ac0bf013f40d742f4579bc833f96 :P

19:52 <Romulus> Title: BOINCstats | BOINC global - Estadísticas de usuario - Estadísticas detalladas de jfa (at es.boincstats.com)

19:53 <PovAddict> yeah see the problem? it shows docking alone, not seti

19:53 <elhoir> yeah

19:53 <elhoir> thats odd

19:54 <elhoir> maybe because i just completed the 1st seti wu

19:54 <PovAddict> I thought you had been running BOINC for a while?

19:54 <PovAddict> in ubuntu 8.10

19:55 <elhoir> yeah

19:55 <elhoir> but my cpu isnt so fast

19:55 <elhoir> and also i installed it recently

19:56 <elhoir> well i used it before (the classic seti@home client) but i removed it because of lack of cpu power

20:00 <elhoir> this is a Pentium M @ 1.6 GHz

20:00 <elhoir> my desktop PC is an AMD Athlon 64 3000 @ 1.8 GHz, faster, but noiser....

20:06 <wdsmia> lol

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20:07 <elhoir> bye guys

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20:32 <wdsmia> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/chart_list.php... #16 :)

20:34 <wdsmia> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/chart_list.php

20:34 <Romulus> Title: Top 100 multi-project BOINC participants (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

20:55 <PovAddict> WTG

20:56 <PovAddict> zombie67 is 93

20:57 <wdsmia> ty

21:10 <wdsmia> Collatz Conjecture down again :(

21:13 <Tank_Master> zombie?

21:13 <Romulus> It has been said that zombie is #2, Tank_Master

21:13 <wdsmia> hope the new server will help

21:14 <Tank_Master> me to

21:14 <Tank_Master> I got a decent cache now at least

21:14 <Tank_Master> I like the longer WUs

21:14 <Tank_Master> forget zombie

21:14 <Romulus> Got it.

21:14 <wdsmia> long lol

21:14 <wdsmia> 15 min

21:14 <Tank_Master> although 12m still aint long :P

21:17 <wdsmia> looks like its back up

21:17 <wdsmia> boinc and bounce

21:21 <Tank_Master> cant open DB

21:22 <wdsmia> give it 5 min and it will really crash

21:23 <Tank_Master> lol

21:24 <Tank_Master> I wish he'd just ignore the bad ATI version now and get it over with

21:24 <wdsmia> agree

21:25 <wdsmia> but this may be related to the bad mem simm or just overload

21:25 <Tank_Master> true

21:25 <PovAddict> I think a project could get more computing power by keeping things stable -> happy users -> more users (and less users going away), than by using GPUs (which process faster)

21:26 * wdsmia thinks we need 3 or 4 more ATI prog/apps

21:26 <Tank_Master> considerong just how much faster GPUs ar,e, a doubt that

21:26 <Tank_Master> it takes that 4.5h for a collats on a high end CPU?

21:26 <wdsmia> never ran it on a cpu

21:26 <Tank_Master> compaired to 12m for a midrange new ATI card

21:27 <Tank_Master> I did, in 64bit

21:27 <Tank_Master> while aqua was down

21:27 <wdsmia> have a 8400GS that takes 6h lol

21:27 <Tank_Master> took about 3-3.5h on my i7 920 @ 3.66GHz

21:29 <Tank_Master> so now with the WU being 50% bigger...

21:29 <Tank_Master> about 4.5-5h

21:30 * wdsmia slaps Tank_Master with a 50% bigger wu

21:30 * Tank_Master slaps wdsmia with a faster GPU

21:30 * wdsmia pushes Tank_Master into a crevasse

21:30 * Tank_Master burns wdsmia's house down

21:31 * wdsmia dumps Tank_Master head first into a outhouse

21:32 <Tank_Master> yes, DA's logs are still there

21:33 <wdsmia> who cares lol

21:34 <PovAddict> "Law of Truly Large Numbers: With a large enough sample, any outrageous thing is likely to happen"

21:35 <Tank_Master> true dat

21:35 <PovAddict> "Frivolous Theorem of Arithmetic: Almost all natural numbers are very, very, very large."

21:35 <Tank_Master> when all the probable is not true, the improbable is

21:36 <Tank_Master> "it is amasing what one can do when one does not know what one cannot do"

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