IRC logs of #boinc for Monday, 2009-11-23

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06:59 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

06:59 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 48.0F / 8.9C | Humidity: 86% | Pressure: 30.01in / 1016.1hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. A 50 percent chance of light rain through mid morning. High in the upper 50s. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Cloudy. A chance of light showers through midnight...then showers likely and a slight (1 more message)

06:59 <wdsmia> &more

06:59 <Romulus> wdsmia: chance of thunderstorms after midnight. Low in the mid 40s. East wind 5 to 10 mph. Chance of precipitation 70 percent.; Tuesday - Showers and a slight chance of thunderstorms in the morning...then showers in the afternoon. High in the upper 40s. Northeast wind 10 to 15 mph. Chance of precipitation 90 percent.;

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09:56 <hawmps> re-hi

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12:45 <yoyo[RKN]> I'm still dealing with MT app

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15:25 <Tank_Master> woot, did 200k yesterday :P

15:25 <Tank_Master> also broke 21m total

15:29 * wdsmia_w did 1,934,621 :p

15:37 <Tank_Master> today?

15:37 <Romulus> It has been said that today is Tuesday, Today is Tuesday. Tuesday spaghetti, Monday string beans. All you hungry children, come and eat it up, Tank_Master

15:37 <Tank_Master> gotget today

15:37 <Tank_Master> forget today

15:37 <Romulus> Got it.

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15:50 <xcamel> re-hi

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15:58 <MTughan> I really don't like that acronym MT... Could mean multithreaded, or could be short for MTughan. So I get highlighted any time someone says MT app.

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16:05 <xcamel_> 'lo Mike

16:05 <MTughan> 'lo Jay

16:05 <MTughan> You've grown a tail.

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16:05 <xcamel> gone now..

16:06 <MTughan> And Rommie already got rid of his (back)ticks. ;)

16:06 <wdsmia_w> *lo Jay

16:10 <xcamel> Hi Doug

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16:25 <wdsmia_w> Woot both ATI progects are back up and running :)

16:25 <xcamel> BTW, Yes, Mexico was nice.

16:26 <wdsmia_w> were you gone?

16:26 <PovAddict> did you leave the stress there?

16:26 <wdsmia_w> j/k lol :)

16:26 <PovAddict> or did you bring it back with you?

16:31 <xcamel> most of it..

16:31 <xcamel> Hey POV.. you get that mac bug message I sent you?

16:32 <PovAddict> yeah, but at that point my mac was unusable

16:32 <PovAddict> running a liveCD, repartitioning, to then install Linux on it... so I couldn't test BOINC on it

16:32 <PovAddict> then I forgot :$ sorry

16:35 <xcamel> if "network always available"=true and you change to a foreign network (different than the one it thinks it's supposed to run on) - boinc craps out big time.

16:35 <xcamel> that is a big mac bug, me thinks.

16:41 <PovAddict> BOINC has been "released to the public" with worse than that :p

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16:42 <xcamel> probably..

16:44 <RomW> @xcamel, to get it working again did you have to restart the CC?

16:45 <PovAddict> what version of BOINC?

16:45 <PovAddict> (I have no BOINC at all on this Mac)

16:47 <RomW> The biggest problem we have in the mobile space with *nix based environments is that the DNS resolver libs don't automatically obtain the new DNS server addresses when the machine changes networks

16:47 <RomW> libcurl gets lost, and leaves BOINC lost

16:48 <PovAddict> yeah, silly synchronous DNS

16:48 <PovAddict> I'll try it now

16:48 <RomW> not a sync dns issue

16:48 <RomW> cached dns issue

16:49 <PovAddict> well his description ("craps out") isn't as accurate as what he sent me on email: the client hangs

16:49 <PovAddict> it's not that it can't access the net... it's that it doesn't work at all

16:49 <RomW> did it time out?

16:49 <RomW> eventually?

16:49 <PovAddict> I dunno, I'll try it myself now

16:50 <RomW> oh, actually, both mac and linux use async dns anyway

16:50 <PovAddict> although it may not be the same; my two networks (wired and wireless) connect to the same router and get the same DNS

16:50 <Docteh> ah, thats why chromeos uses a dns proxy

16:50 <RomW> same with Windows

16:50 <PovAddict> Docteh: that may be because Linux doesn't have a DNS cache by default

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16:52 <PovAddict> man the new attach project wizard is sure ugly...

16:52 <PovAddict> the scroll wheel moves three *projects* at a time

16:52 <RomW> i'll be working on that again tonight

16:52 <RomW> better layout, with a dropdown combo

16:53 <RomW> and static grouping boxes instead

16:53 <Docteh> or you could debounce scrolling

16:55 <PovAddict> I clicked the *back* button (to go back to the initial "project or account manager" page)

16:55 <PovAddict> and it told me the selected project didn't support my platform

16:55 <RomW> hmmmm

16:55 <RomW> i'll look into that tonight too

16:55 <PovAddict> should only do that if I click Next

16:56 <PovAddict> will you remember or should I put it on Trac? :)

16:56 <RomW> lol

16:57 <RomW> The dns resolver reset switch is in network.cpp:206-210

16:57 <PovAddict> hmm...

16:57 <PovAddict> either I reproduced xcamel's problem, and it's more serious than I thought

16:57 <PovAddict> or it's a problem with Synergy

16:58 * PovAddict kills synergyc

17:00 <PovAddict> must have been synergy

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17:17 <wdsmia> re-hi

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17:44 <fcestrada> wdsmia: hi

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18:04 <xcamel> not on the mac now.. I'll give you the version tomorrow.

18:04 <xcamel> keep in mind, they were completely dissimilar networks.

18:05 <xcamel> and it would hang the machine if left to it's own devices.

18:08 <xcamel> I tried restarting it manually, and it refused to cooperate. period.

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18:52 <KathrynM> I need about a month of vacation

18:52 <KathrynM> and a cleaning person

18:53 <KathrynM> my apartment is a disaster area

18:53 <Docteh> realistically either or

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19:28 <quail> thought of the day 'Don't trust a computer that you can't throw out a window'

19:28 <quail> here a poem to brighten up some peoples day => http://quail.southernvaleslug.org/webblog/archives/173

19:28 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/yzpjwgd> (at quail.southernvaleslug.org)

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22:30 <Razass> hey I am having a problem with seti@home on my linux box

22:30 <Razass> it doesnt appear to be working, but rosetta is running and downloading

22:32 * PovAddict adds some stuff to the bot

22:32 <Razass> is there a way if I can see if seti is computing?

22:33 <PovAddict> SETI@Home front page says "We just had a disk failure on our raw data storage device, which we're in the process of fixing, but still we'll probably run out of workunits to send out tonight. "

22:33 <Razass> yes but I have 2 units here but it doesnt look like they are being worked on

22:34 <PovAddict> your computer might be just busy with rosetta

22:34 <Razass> ahh gotcha - It would be nice if it said if it was computing one or the other

22:34 <PovAddict> it does...

22:35 <PovAddict> how do even you know what tasks you have?

22:35 <PovAddict> how do you even know what tasks you have?*

22:35 <Razass> --get_simple_gui_info

22:35 <Razass> but in those results it doesnt include if its actually computing the unit or not

22:35 <PovAddict> it does

22:36 <PovAddict> syneccmd isn't a sane user interface

22:36 <Razass> thats the boinccmd ?

22:36 <PovAddict> boinccmd yes :P

22:36 <PovAddict> sorry

22:36 <PovAddict> the combination of 'state', 'scheduler state', and 'active task state' would tell you exactly what the task status is, but it just shows the internal code...

22:37 <Razass> oh lol ok - so this wasn't really made for people to know whats going on? lol

22:37 <PovAddict> boinccmd is more like a tool to test the client control interface

22:38 <Razass> ahh which I can't use because i'm on a terminal :)

22:38 <PovAddict> I mean the protocol

22:39 <PovAddict> there isn't any (official) usable program for someone on a terminal to use

22:39 <PovAddict> there are things like this: http://www.oook.cz/bsd/boinc_curses/ but I don't know if they work with recent versions of BOINC

22:39 <Romulus> Title: boinc_curses (at www.oook.cz)

22:39 <Razass> ahh - thats unfortunate, but I suppose there aren't many people who use a terminal

22:43 <Docteh> theres a few, I'm writing a shell script to parse client_state.xml and slots/?/boinc_task_state.xml

22:44 <PovAddict> Docteh: don't

22:44 <Docteh> well I'm doing it to get a one liner report

22:44 <PovAddict> in some platforms those files are unreadable (permissions), and nobody guarantees file format stability

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22:48 <Docteh> writing a gui rpc client would be a better idea?

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