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02:38 <efc> I'm attempting to get up to speed on GPUs..
03:04 <efc> can get a radeon HD 4650 (AGP) for about $85
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03:32 <efc> S@H is CUDA only?
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04:57 <Tank_Master> no, they got CPU to
04:58 <efc> well, and that
04:58 <Tank_Master> :D
04:59 <efc> was thinking of slapping a new GPU in but this machine is AGP and no nvidia ones for AGP will do CUDA
04:59 <efc> and the ATI ones won't do a game I need
04:59 <efc> new computer time, maybe
04:59 <Tank_Master> you can get a PCI card thats geforce 9500...
05:00 <efc> Didn't think of that
05:01 <efc> I guess cuz there's a market for 2nd third etc cards
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06:20 <quail-e71> hi all
06:20 * quail-e71 running the battery down on his e71, as it on it last bar
06:20 <quail-e71> &wx ypad
06:20 <Romulus> quail-e71: Temperature: 59°F / 15°C | Humidity: 55% | Pressure: 30.18in / 1022hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h | Updated: 9:30 PM CST; Clear. High:73 ° F.; Clear. Low:51 ° F.; Clear. High:73 ° F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:53 ° F.; Clear. High:77 ° F.; Clear. Low:55 ° F.;
06:20 <wdsmia> &wx 50319
06:20 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 23.4°F / -4.8°C | Humidity: 83% | Pressure: 30.04in / 1017.2hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 3.0mph / 4.8km/h ; Today - Partly sunny with a slight chance of light snow showers in the morning...then cloudy with a chance of light snow showers in the afternoon. Breezy. High around 30. West wind 15 to 20 mph. Chance of snow 40 percent.; Tonight - (1 more message)
06:21 <wdsmia> &more
06:21 <Romulus> wdsmia: Cloudy...breezy. Scattered flurries. Low in the lower 20s. Northwest wind 10 to 20 mph.; Friday - Mostly cloudy. High in the upper 20s. West wind 10 to 15 mph.;
06:21 <quail-e71> hi Doug
06:21 <wdsmia> mornin
06:22 <quail-e71> how are things?
06:24 <wdsmia> dark
06:26 <quail-e71> hehe it dark here too
06:33 <hawmps> 'lo
06:34 <quail-e71> hi Jay
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06:57 <hawmps> hmmm...
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14:32 <hawmps> hmmm.. record high today...
14:32 <hawmps> &wx 12020
14:32 <Romulus> hawmps: Temperature: 59.6°F / 15.3°C | Humidity: -999% | Pressure: 29.23in / 989.7hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 17.0mph / 27.4km/h ; This Afternoon - Mostly cloudy and breezy. Not as cool with highs around 60. Temperature falling into the mid 50s. Southwest winds 15 to 25 mph. Gusts up to 40 mph.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Lows in the mid 30s. West winds 15 (1 more message)
14:32 <hawmps> &more
14:32 <Romulus> hawmps: to 20 mph.; Friday - Partly sunny. Cooler with highs in the upper 40s. West winds around 10 mph.;
14:32 <PovAddict> record low humidity too?
14:32 <hawmps> lol
14:32 <hawmps> it was 62F
14:32 <PovAddict> and seriously, pressure looks quite low too
14:33 <PovAddict> &wx eze
14:33 <Romulus> PovAddict: Temperature: 66°F / 19°C | Humidity: 52% | Pressure: 30.04in / 1017hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h | Updated: 4:00 PM ART; Clear. High:68 ° F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:46 ° F.; Clear. High:71 ° F.; Clear. Low:53 ° F.; Partly Cloudy. High:80 ° F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:57 ° F.;
15:03 <hawmps> 29.26"Hg - - cold front coming...
15:05 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx sxf
15:05 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 39°F / 4°C | Humidity: 81% | Pressure: 29.74in / 1007hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h | Updated: 8:50 PM CET; Scattered Clouds. High:41 ° F.; Partly Cloudy. Low:32 ° F.; Partly Cloudy. High:42 ° F.; Partly Cloudy. Low:33 ° F.; Scattered Clouds. High:42 ° F.; Partly Cloudy. Low:33 ° F.;
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15:08 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 44.4°F / 6.9°C | Humidity: 41% | Pressure: 30.26in / 1024.6hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 2.3mph / 3.7km/h ; Today - Sunny. Highs 45 to 50. East wind 5 to 15 mph...except east wind 20 to 30 mph near The Gorge.; Tonight - Clear in the evening...then partly cloudy. Lows 25 to 30. East wind 5 to 15 mph. Near The Gorge...gusts to 30 mph in (1 more message)
15:08 <Tank_Master> &more
15:08 <Romulus> Tank_Master: the evening.; Friday - Mostly sunny. Highs 45 to 50. Light wind.; Special Weather Statement for Washington County in effect until 1:45 PM PST on December 03, 2009;
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15:42 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: 27.9°F / -2.3°C | Humidity: 69% | Pressure: 30.15in / 1020.9hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 6.0mph / 9.7km/h ; Rest of Today - Mostly cloudy with scattered light snow showers. Breezy. High in the lower 30s. West wind 15 to 20 mph. Chance of snow 50 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Breezy. Scattered flurries. Low in the lower 20s. (1 more message)
15:42 <wdsmia_w> &more
15:42 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Northwest wind 10 to 20 mph.; Friday - Mostly cloudy. High in the upper 20s. West wind 10 to 15 mph.;
15:52 <Tank_Master> my, aint you warm
15:54 * wdsmia_w thows a slush ball at Tank_Master
15:54 * Tank_Master thows a frozen mudball at wdsmia_w
15:58 * wdsmia_w ducks
15:58 <Tank_Master> where!?!
15:59 * PovAddict throws a duck at Tank_Master
15:59 * Tank_Master has lunch
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16:05 <xcamel> duck?
16:05 <xcamel> AAAAAAFFFFFFLAC!
16:05 <Tank_Master> quack!
16:05 <Tank_Master> lol
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17:18 <wdsmia> re-hi
17:21 <Tank_Master> re-wb
17:24 <wdsmia> 41
17:24 <Tank_Master> 43
17:25 <xcamel> 48 and falling.
17:25 <wdsmia> &wx 50319
17:25 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 26.6°F / -3.0°C | Humidity: 67% | Pressure: 30.19in / 1022.2hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 8.0mph / 12.9km/h ; Late This Afternoon - Mostly cloudy with isolated light snow showers. Breezy. Northwest wind 15 to 20 mph. Chance of snow 20 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Scattered flurries through the night. Low 15 to 20. Northwest wind (1 more message)
17:25 <Tank_Master> balmy
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18:01 <kathryn_> tgif
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18:05 <xcamel> indeed... almost.
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22:48 <zombie67> tm?
22:49 <zombie67> tank_master
22:49 <Tank_Master> what
22:50 <zombie67> i can't figure something out
22:50 <zombie67> and need your help
22:50 <Tank_Master> ok...
22:50 <zombie67> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010380048%201305520548%20106792634%201067946192&name=GeForce%20GTX%20295
22:50 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/ygkh3er> (at www.newegg.com)
22:50 <zombie67> $700?
22:50 <zombie67> vs.
22:50 <zombie67> http://www.amazon.com/s/qid=1259898594/ref=sr_st?keywords=gtx+295&rs=172282&page=1&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Agtx+295%2Ci%3Aelectronics%2Cn%3A172282%2Cn%3A%21493964&sort=relevancerank
22:50 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/ybpfs7b> (at www.amazon.com)
22:51 <zombie67> $500
22:51 <Tank_Master> that $700 has a watterblock on it for wattercolling
22:51 <Tank_Master> i think
22:51 <Tank_Master> hold on
22:52 <zombie67> also, why is everything else sold out on newegg?
22:52 <zombie67> has production stopped or something?
22:52 <Tank_Master> dunno
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22:53 <Tank_Master> yeah, that $700 has a wattercooler on it
22:53 <zombie67> when is the 300 series due out again?
22:53 <Tank_Master> hence the higher cost
22:53 <zombie67> something has gone south with my GTX 280
22:53 <Tank_Master> odd
22:53 <zombie67> it is making only 2x a 9500 GT PCI
22:54 <Tank_Master> yeah, I rememebr that now
22:54 <Tank_Master> I still dont get how
22:54 <zombie67> nothing I do makes any difference
22:54 <zombie67> changed machines
22:54 <zombie67> changed settings
22:54 <zombie67> nothing
22:54 <zombie67> so I am considering a 295
22:55 <zombie67> gives a bit more flexibility over ati right now
22:55 <Tank_Master> a lot of the cards from amazom are out of stock to
22:55 <Tank_Master> "will ship in 2-4 weeks"
22:55 <zombie67> and I already have two 4870s, with a 5970 later
22:56 <zombie67> what do you think about that zotac?
22:57 <zombie67> i've never heard of that brand before
22:58 <zombie67> is the BFG worth $50 more?
22:58 <zombie67> but yeah, you are right, everyone seems sold out of the 295, which is why I was wondering if production had stopped
22:58 <Tank_Master> BFG are knowen for their good quality parts
22:59 <zombie67> heh
22:59 <zombie67> bfg is what my 280 is
22:59 <Tank_Master> oh lol
23:00 <Tank_Master> my 250 I had was a zotac
23:00 <Tank_Master> had to prolems with it
23:00 <zombie67> all the usual OC features?
23:01 <Tank_Master> those are included in the nvidia drivers
23:01 <Tank_Master> so yes
23:02 <zombie67> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5260917&CatId=3669
23:02 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/yejmdp4> (at www.tigerdirect.com)
23:03 <Tank_Master> saw that
23:03 <Tank_Master> nevre heard of galaxy
23:04 <zombie67> in stock though
23:04 <zombie67> what about evga?
23:04 <Tank_Master> true
23:04 <Tank_Master> those are good
23:04 <Tank_Master> ive used them before
23:04 <Tank_Master> not great o/cers
23:04 <zombie67> $560
23:04 <Tank_Master> but they are stable
23:05 <zombie67> what does co-op edition mean?
23:06 <Tank_Master> where?
23:07 <zombie67> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4831849&CatId=3669
23:07 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/ycuu6d6> (at www.tigerdirect.com)
23:07 <zombie67> EVGA GeForce GTX 295 CO-OP Edition Video Card - 1792MB DDR3, PCI-Express 2.0, 480 Cores, PCI-Express 2.0, (2) Dual Link DVI, Quad SLI
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23:08 <Tank_Master> no clue
23:08 <Tank_Master> could jsut be a marketing gimmic
23:08 <zombie67> eh
23:08 <zombie67> marketing requires we know what they are saying
23:08 <Tank_Master> lol
23:08 <Tank_Master> not always
23:10 <zombie67> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5210394&CatId=3669
23:10 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/ylr5ph2> (at www.tigerdirect.com)
23:11 <zombie67> how does boinc see a 295? As a double fast card? Or as two cards, running two tasks?
23:11 <Tank_Master> 2 cards
23:11 <Tank_Master> though I dunno how with SLI mode enabled
23:13 <zombie67> when is the next gen due again?
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23:19 <zombie67> tm, what do you think?
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23:24 <Tank_Master> http://www.amazon.com/Zotac-ZT-295E3MB-FSP-GeForce-896-bit-2016MHz/dp/B002D2SS84/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1259900604&sr=1-8
23:24 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/yhr2c8v> (at www.amazon.com)
23:24 <Tank_Master> that one possibly
23:25 <zombie67> it's worth $60 to not wait 3 weeks
23:25 <zombie67> ;)
23:25 <zombie67> but I am nore interested in your opinion about the 295 in general
23:26 <zombie67> as a cruncher
23:26 <Tank_Master> doh
23:26 <Tank_Master> your right :P
23:27 <zombie67> and?
23:27 <Tank_Master> the evga
23:27 <zombie67> nono
23:27 <PovAddict> [01:27] <Sho_> i still say the computer industry stopped making relevant progress after http://www.eikehein.com/files/supercomputer.jpg *shrugs*
23:27 <zombie67> I mean, what is your opinion about the 295, vs a 285, ati, etc
23:28 <zombie67> good one pov
23:28 <PovAddict> heh, I should have quoted that line after zombie67 asked about opinion about GPUs :)
23:28 <Tank_Master> id kinda wait untill the geforce 3xxx series is out
23:29 <Tank_Master> they should have good double presision support
23:29 <zombie67> when is that?
23:29 <Tank_Master> dunno
23:29 <zombie67> it matters
23:29 <zombie67> I already said that a week = $20
23:29 <zombie67> ;)
23:30 <Tank_Master> according to wikipedia... not till q2 2010
23:31 <zombie67> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_300_Series
23:31 <Romulus> Title: GeForce 300 Series - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
23:31 <zombie67> so.....
23:31 <PovAddict> time is money
23:31 <zombie67> that really means Q3
23:32 <zombie67> I think I am going with the BFG
23:32 <Tank_Master> Q1 for the high end 350
23:32 <zombie67> a YEAR?!
23:32 <Romulus> Rumor has it a YEAR is what it takes for a social net!@#&ing site to lose popularity and be called "that's so last year", zombie67
23:32 <zombie67> f that noise
23:32 <Tank_Master> ?
23:32 <Tank_Master> q1 2010
23:32 <Tank_Master> as in a few montsh
23:33 <Tank_Master> months*
23:33 <zombie67> ah
23:33 <Tank_Master> forget a year
23:33 <Romulus> Got it.
23:33 <zombie67> wait, the highest end out first?
23:33 <zombie67> that makes no sense
23:33 <Tank_Master> oem out this quarter
23:33 <Tank_Master> most companies to high end first
23:34 <zombie67> that's not how it works with silicon
23:34 <Tank_Master> higher premium help offset cost of R&D
23:34 <zombie67> look at any intel or amd chip
23:34 <zombie67> it takes time to refine the process to get parts that start binning high
23:35 <Tank_Master> but the demand is lower
23:35 <zombie67> doesn't matter about demand. the yields are not there at the beginning
23:36 <zombie67> in any case, any announced date, always add a quarter
23:43 <Tank_Master> dunno really waht to say, the ATI will get you better credits, but nvidia has more projects that it can run...
23:43 <Tank_Master> n ill bbl
23:43 <zombie67> ordered BFG GeForce GTX 295 OverClocked
23:56 <jackygrahamez__> I made some progress today
23:57 <jackygrahamez__> once this workflow is working well, then I can think about GPUs
23:58 <jackygrahamez__> Zombie67, how are your hosts?
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