IRC logs of #boinc for Thursday, 2009-12-03

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02:38 <efc> I'm attempting to get up to speed on GPUs..

03:04 <efc> can get a radeon HD 4650 (AGP) for about $85

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03:32 <efc> S@H is CUDA only?

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04:57 <Tank_Master> no, they got CPU to

04:58 <efc> well, and that

04:58 <Tank_Master> :D

04:59 <efc> was thinking of slapping a new GPU in but this machine is AGP and no nvidia ones for AGP will do CUDA

04:59 <efc> and the ATI ones won't do a game I need

04:59 <efc> new computer time, maybe

04:59 <Tank_Master> you can get a PCI card thats geforce 9500...

05:00 <efc> Didn't think of that

05:01 <efc> I guess cuz there's a market for 2nd third etc cards

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06:20 <quail-e71> hi all

06:20 * quail-e71 running the battery down on his e71, as it on it last bar

06:20 <quail-e71> &wx ypad

06:20 <Romulus> quail-e71: Temperature: 59°F / 15°C | Humidity: 55% | Pressure: 30.18in / 1022hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h | Updated: 9:30 PM CST; Clear. High:73 F.; Clear. Low:51 F.; Clear. High:73 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:53 F.; Clear. High:77 F.; Clear. Low:55 F.;

06:20 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

06:20 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 23.4F / -4.8C | Humidity: 83% | Pressure: 30.04in / 1017.2hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 3.0mph / 4.8km/h ; Today - Partly sunny with a slight chance of light snow showers in the morning...then cloudy with a chance of light snow showers in the afternoon. Breezy. High around 30. West wind 15 to 20 mph. Chance of snow 40 percent.; Tonight - (1 more message)

06:21 <wdsmia> &more

06:21 <Romulus> wdsmia: Cloudy...breezy. Scattered flurries. Low in the lower 20s. Northwest wind 10 to 20 mph.; Friday - Mostly cloudy. High in the upper 20s. West wind 10 to 15 mph.;

06:21 <quail-e71> hi Doug

06:21 <wdsmia> mornin

06:22 <quail-e71> how are things?

06:24 <wdsmia> dark

06:26 <quail-e71> hehe it dark here too

06:33 <hawmps> 'lo

06:34 <quail-e71> hi Jay

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06:57 <hawmps> hmmm...

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14:32 <hawmps> hmmm.. record high today...

14:32 <hawmps> &wx 12020

14:32 <Romulus> hawmps: Temperature: 59.6F / 15.3C | Humidity: -999% | Pressure: 29.23in / 989.7hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 17.0mph / 27.4km/h ; This Afternoon - Mostly cloudy and breezy. Not as cool with highs around 60. Temperature falling into the mid 50s. Southwest winds 15 to 25 mph. Gusts up to 40 mph.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Lows in the mid 30s. West winds 15 (1 more message)

14:32 <hawmps> &more

14:32 <Romulus> hawmps: to 20 mph.; Friday - Partly sunny. Cooler with highs in the upper 40s. West winds around 10 mph.;

14:32 <PovAddict> record low humidity too?

14:32 <hawmps> lol

14:32 <hawmps> it was 62F

14:32 <PovAddict> and seriously, pressure looks quite low too

14:33 <PovAddict> &wx eze

14:33 <Romulus> PovAddict: Temperature: 66°F / 19°C | Humidity: 52% | Pressure: 30.04in / 1017hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h | Updated: 4:00 PM ART; Clear. High:68 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:46 F.; Clear. High:71 F.; Clear. Low:53 F.; Partly Cloudy. High:80 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:57 F.;

15:03 <hawmps> 29.26"Hg - - cold front coming...

15:05 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx sxf

15:05 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 39°F / 4°C | Humidity: 81% | Pressure: 29.74in / 1007hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h | Updated: 8:50 PM CET; Scattered Clouds. High:41 F.; Partly Cloudy. Low:32 F.; Partly Cloudy. High:42 F.; Partly Cloudy. Low:33 F.; Scattered Clouds. High:42 F.; Partly Cloudy. Low:33 F.;

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15:08 <Tank_Master> &wx 97123

15:08 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 44.4F / 6.9C | Humidity: 41% | Pressure: 30.26in / 1024.6hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 2.3mph / 3.7km/h ; Today - Sunny. Highs 45 to 50. East wind 5 to 15 mph...except east wind 20 to 30 mph near The Gorge.; Tonight - Clear in the evening...then partly cloudy. Lows 25 to 30. East wind 5 to 15 mph. Near The Gorge...gusts to 30 mph in (1 more message)

15:08 <Tank_Master> &more

15:08 <Romulus> Tank_Master: the evening.; Friday - Mostly sunny. Highs 45 to 50. Light wind.; Special Weather Statement for Washington County in effect until 1:45 PM PST on December 03, 2009;

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15:42 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: 27.9F / -2.3C | Humidity: 69% | Pressure: 30.15in / 1020.9hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 6.0mph / 9.7km/h ; Rest of Today - Mostly cloudy with scattered light snow showers. Breezy. High in the lower 30s. West wind 15 to 20 mph. Chance of snow 50 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Breezy. Scattered flurries. Low in the lower 20s. (1 more message)

15:42 <wdsmia_w> &more

15:42 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Northwest wind 10 to 20 mph.; Friday - Mostly cloudy. High in the upper 20s. West wind 10 to 15 mph.;

15:52 <Tank_Master> my, aint you warm

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15:58 <Tank_Master> where!?!

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16:05 <xcamel> duck?

16:05 <xcamel> AAAAAAFFFFFFLAC!

16:05 <Tank_Master> quack!

16:05 <Tank_Master> lol

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17:18 <wdsmia> re-hi

17:21 <Tank_Master> re-wb

17:24 <wdsmia> 41

17:24 <Tank_Master> 43

17:25 <xcamel> 48 and falling.

17:25 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

17:25 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 26.6F / -3.0C | Humidity: 67% | Pressure: 30.19in / 1022.2hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 8.0mph / 12.9km/h ; Late This Afternoon - Mostly cloudy with isolated light snow showers. Breezy. Northwest wind 15 to 20 mph. Chance of snow 20 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Scattered flurries through the night. Low 15 to 20. Northwest wind (1 more message)

17:25 <Tank_Master> balmy

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18:01 <kathryn_> tgif

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18:05 <xcamel> indeed... almost.

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22:48 <zombie67> tm?

22:49 <zombie67> tank_master

22:49 <Tank_Master> what

22:50 <zombie67> i can't figure something out

22:50 <zombie67> and need your help

22:50 <Tank_Master> ok...

22:50 <zombie67> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010380048%201305520548%20106792634%201067946192&name=GeForce%20GTX%20295

22:50 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/ygkh3er> (at www.newegg.com)

22:50 <zombie67> $700?

22:50 <zombie67> vs.

22:50 <zombie67> http://www.amazon.com/s/qid=1259898594/ref=sr_st?keywords=gtx+295&rs=172282&page=1&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Agtx+295%2Ci%3Aelectronics%2Cn%3A172282%2Cn%3A%21493964&sort=relevancerank

22:50 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/ybpfs7b> (at www.amazon.com)

22:51 <zombie67> $500

22:51 <Tank_Master> that $700 has a watterblock on it for wattercolling

22:51 <Tank_Master> i think

22:51 <Tank_Master> hold on

22:52 <zombie67> also, why is everything else sold out on newegg?

22:52 <zombie67> has production stopped or something?

22:52 <Tank_Master> dunno

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22:53 <Tank_Master> yeah, that $700 has a wattercooler on it

22:53 <zombie67> when is the 300 series due out again?

22:53 <Tank_Master> hence the higher cost

22:53 <zombie67> something has gone south with my GTX 280

22:53 <Tank_Master> odd

22:53 <zombie67> it is making only 2x a 9500 GT PCI

22:54 <Tank_Master> yeah, I rememebr that now

22:54 <Tank_Master> I still dont get how

22:54 <zombie67> nothing I do makes any difference

22:54 <zombie67> changed machines

22:54 <zombie67> changed settings

22:54 <zombie67> nothing

22:54 <zombie67> so I am considering a 295

22:55 <zombie67> gives a bit more flexibility over ati right now

22:55 <Tank_Master> a lot of the cards from amazom are out of stock to

22:55 <Tank_Master> "will ship in 2-4 weeks"

22:55 <zombie67> and I already have two 4870s, with a 5970 later

22:56 <zombie67> what do you think about that zotac?

22:57 <zombie67> i've never heard of that brand before

22:58 <zombie67> is the BFG worth $50 more?

22:58 <zombie67> but yeah, you are right, everyone seems sold out of the 295, which is why I was wondering if production had stopped

22:58 <Tank_Master> BFG are knowen for their good quality parts

22:59 <zombie67> heh

22:59 <zombie67> bfg is what my 280 is

22:59 <Tank_Master> oh lol

23:00 <Tank_Master> my 250 I had was a zotac

23:00 <Tank_Master> had to prolems with it

23:00 <zombie67> all the usual OC features?

23:01 <Tank_Master> those are included in the nvidia drivers

23:01 <Tank_Master> so yes

23:02 <zombie67> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5260917&CatId=3669

23:02 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/yejmdp4> (at www.tigerdirect.com)

23:03 <Tank_Master> saw that

23:03 <Tank_Master> nevre heard of galaxy

23:04 <zombie67> in stock though

23:04 <zombie67> what about evga?

23:04 <Tank_Master> true

23:04 <Tank_Master> those are good

23:04 <Tank_Master> ive used them before

23:04 <Tank_Master> not great o/cers

23:04 <zombie67> $560

23:04 <Tank_Master> but they are stable

23:05 <zombie67> what does co-op edition mean?

23:06 <Tank_Master> where?

23:07 <zombie67> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4831849&CatId=3669

23:07 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/ycuu6d6> (at www.tigerdirect.com)

23:07 <zombie67> EVGA GeForce GTX 295 CO-OP Edition Video Card - 1792MB DDR3, PCI-Express 2.0, 480 Cores, PCI-Express 2.0, (2) Dual Link DVI, Quad SLI

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23:08 <Tank_Master> no clue

23:08 <Tank_Master> could jsut be a marketing gimmic

23:08 <zombie67> eh

23:08 <zombie67> marketing requires we know what they are saying

23:08 <Tank_Master> lol

23:08 <Tank_Master> not always

23:10 <zombie67> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5210394&CatId=3669

23:10 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/ylr5ph2> (at www.tigerdirect.com)

23:11 <zombie67> how does boinc see a 295?  As a double fast card?  Or as two cards, running two tasks?

23:11 <Tank_Master> 2 cards

23:11 <Tank_Master> though I dunno how with SLI mode enabled

23:13 <zombie67> when is the next gen due again?

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23:19 <zombie67> tm, what do you think?

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23:24 <Tank_Master> http://www.amazon.com/Zotac-ZT-295E3MB-FSP-GeForce-896-bit-2016MHz/dp/B002D2SS84/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1259900604&sr=1-8

23:24 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/yhr2c8v> (at www.amazon.com)

23:24 <Tank_Master> that one possibly

23:25 <zombie67> it's worth $60 to not wait 3 weeks

23:25 <zombie67> ;)

23:25 <zombie67> but I am nore interested in your opinion about the 295 in general

23:26 <zombie67> as a cruncher

23:26 <Tank_Master> doh

23:26 <Tank_Master> your right :P

23:27 <zombie67> and?

23:27 <Tank_Master> the evga

23:27 <zombie67> nono

23:27 <PovAddict> [01:27] <Sho_> i still say the computer industry stopped making relevant progress after http://www.eikehein.com/files/supercomputer.jpg *shrugs*

23:27 <zombie67> I mean, what is your opinion about the 295, vs a 285, ati, etc

23:28 <zombie67> good one pov

23:28 <PovAddict> heh, I should have quoted that line after zombie67 asked about opinion about GPUs :)

23:28 <Tank_Master> id kinda wait untill the geforce 3xxx series is out

23:29 <Tank_Master> they should have good double presision support

23:29 <zombie67> when is that?

23:29 <Tank_Master> dunno

23:29 <zombie67> it matters

23:29 <zombie67> I already said that a week = $20

23:29 <zombie67> ;)

23:30 <Tank_Master> according to wikipedia... not till q2 2010

23:31 <zombie67> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_300_Series

23:31 <Romulus> Title: GeForce 300 Series - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)

23:31 <zombie67> so.....

23:31 <PovAddict> time is money

23:31 <zombie67> that really means Q3

23:32 <zombie67> I think I am going with the BFG

23:32 <Tank_Master> Q1 for the high end 350

23:32 <zombie67> a YEAR?!

23:32 <Romulus> Rumor has it a YEAR is what it takes for a social net!@#&ing site to lose popularity and be called "that's so last year", zombie67

23:32 <zombie67> f that noise

23:32 <Tank_Master> ?

23:32 <Tank_Master> q1 2010

23:32 <Tank_Master> as in a few montsh

23:33 <Tank_Master> months*

23:33 <zombie67> ah

23:33 <Tank_Master> forget a year

23:33 <Romulus> Got it.

23:33 <zombie67> wait, the highest end out first?

23:33 <zombie67> that makes no sense

23:33 <Tank_Master> oem out this quarter

23:33 <Tank_Master> most companies to high end first

23:34 <zombie67> that's not how it works with silicon

23:34 <Tank_Master> higher premium help offset cost of R&D

23:34 <zombie67> look at any intel or amd chip

23:34 <zombie67> it takes time to refine the process to get parts that start binning high

23:35 <Tank_Master> but the demand is lower

23:35 <zombie67> doesn't matter about demand.  the yields are not there at the beginning

23:36 <zombie67> in any case, any announced date, always add a quarter

23:43 <Tank_Master> dunno really waht to say, the ATI will get you better credits, but nvidia has more projects that it can run...

23:43 <Tank_Master> n ill bbl

23:43 <zombie67> ordered BFG GeForce GTX 295 OverClocked

23:56 <jackygrahamez__> I made some progress today

23:57 <jackygrahamez__> once this workflow is working well, then I can think about GPUs

23:58 <jackygrahamez__> Zombie67, how are your hosts?

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