IRC logs of #boinc for Friday, 2009-12-04

00:03 <zombie67> hi jack

00:03 <zombie67> I am going to switch machines

00:03 <zombie67> brb

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00:05 <zombie67> back

00:06 <zombie67> so

00:06 <zombie67> whatcha wanna know?

00:08 <zombie67> mdrun is about 50/50 with my macs

00:08 <jackygrahamez__> I want you to send me a mac :-)

00:08 <zombie67> heh

00:09 <zombie67> I have a G4 ibook

00:09 <jackygrahamez__> not a big mac

00:09 <jackygrahamez__> that's intel right?

00:09 <zombie67> nope

00:09 <zombie67> G4 = ppc

00:09 <jackygrahamez__> ok

00:09 <zombie67> I meant I have a G4 I am not using that I could send you

00:09 <zombie67> but I am running only intel now

00:10 <jackygrahamez__> I need an'll see what I can get online

00:11 <jackygrahamez__> I've done this cross compile stuff but apparently its not working right

00:11 <zombie67> xp64 boxes doing MUCH better now

00:11 <zombie67>

00:11 <Romulus> <> (at

00:11 <zombie67> cross compile never dies

00:11 <zombie67> does

00:12 <zombie67> I joined the development team because you needed macs

00:13 <zombie67> but I can't stay for ever

00:13 <zombie67> my team would kill me

00:14 <jackygrahamez__> The MSNBC story said that this person was "Higley Unified School District's information technology director" - as such, he probably believed that he was the person who job description made him responsible for deciding what software the district's computers should be running.

00:15 <zombie67> talking about NEZ/

00:15 <zombie67> ?

00:15 <jackygrahamez__> yes

00:15 <zombie67> yeah, we know only half the story and only the accusations

00:15 <zombie67> we know nothing about the reality yet

00:15 <jackygrahamez__> I guess we have to wait and see how the story evolves

00:16 <zombie67> yeah

00:16 <zombie67> looks like a witch hunt from the new people in charge against the people under the old administration

00:16 <jackygrahamez__> I would think that as a director, he should have been in a position to make those decisions

00:17 <zombie67> yeah

00:17 <zombie67> and accroding to some of the comments, he did have permission from the previous administration

00:17 <zombie67> and those numbers of $1.6m?  prove it

00:17 <zombie67> they sound completely manufactured to me

00:18 <zombie67> still, if the old administration didn't document "permission" NEZ may end up screwed, though no fault of his own

00:18 <jackygrahamez__> I hope he has good legal support then

00:19 <jackygrahamez__> informal verbal

00:20 <jackygrahamez__> I know how that can go

00:20 <jackygrahamez__> always get stuff in writing

00:20 <zombie67> the thing that strikes me, is the reporting.

00:20 <jackygrahamez__> I'm getting a bit paranoid about my job as well

00:20 <zombie67> reminds me of one of my fav. quotes from back in the usenet days

00:20 <zombie67> Have you ever seen a TV program, concerning a topic about which you were actually knowledgeable, spew forth anything other than total BS? I don't think I can recall one :-( It's scary! --Malcolm Hoar

00:21 <zombie67> I see this all the time when it comes to computer manufacturing.

00:22 <jackygrahamez__> It pisses me off when I see people write on a topic as if they were experts when they just spent 2 hours reading about it

00:22 <zombie67> so I have to assume that all the other stories, which I am NOT very knowledgable about, are equally full of misinformation.

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00:22 <zombie67> "Obfuscation is an acquired talent, usually reserved for attorneys.  We amateurs do it recreationally." -- John Higdon

00:23 <zombie67> jack

00:23 <zombie67> you said something about not being able to validate tasks?

00:23 <jackygrahamez__> or when you watch cable news programs where you hope to get the news but only hear opinions yelled

00:24 <zombie67> yeah

00:24 <jackygrahamez__> for workunit assignments

00:24 <zombie67> so what is the long term plan?

00:24 <zombie67> why have a quorum of >1?

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00:25 <jackygrahamez__> those assigned tasks are intended for testing. That initial testing is done for now. They are not assigned anymore

00:25 <jackygrahamez__> I'll see if I can grant some of that credit

00:25 <zombie67> okay, but eventually, you be doing real work right?

00:25 <jackygrahamez__> I also named the input files with a prefix asgn_ so I can clean them out

00:25 <zombie67> what is the plan then?

00:26 <jackygrahamez__> well the current work can be assimilated

00:26 <zombie67> That kind of talk tightens my colon. -- Frank Burns

00:26 <jackygrahamez__> about the plan for our results?

00:26 <zombie67> the plan for validation

00:27 <jackygrahamez__> assigned tasks cannot validate but I have a script where I try to grant credit. The non-assigned work does validate. That's what you are getting now

00:27 <zombie67> ah

00:27 <jackygrahamez__> are you asking what type of validator

00:27 <jackygrahamez__> ?

00:27 <zombie67> okay, I get it

00:28 <zombie67> I was trying to understand the logic of quorum of >1 if you cannot validate

00:28 <zombie67> "We had been married long enough that Fifi's burning gaze and flaring nostrils told me _exactly_ what she wanted, so I hurriedly peeled off her tight satin dress, dispatched her lacy French brassiere with a flick of the wrist, her garter belt became a 'ringer' on the furthest bedpost, and as I sent her imported silk stockings arcing gracefully into the laundry hamper, I dropped to my knees and promised never, _never_ to go into to

00:28 <zombie67> wn wearing her clothes again." -- William "Buddy" Ocheltree '94 Bulwer-Lytton

00:31 <zombie67> got me a GTC 295 on order!

00:31 <zombie67> GTX

00:36 <efc> sweet

00:47 <efc> i'm going to quit procrastinating and order something.. anything tonight

00:49 <zombie67> buy anything...

00:49 <zombie67> "Once you're safely in the mall, you should tie your children to you with ropes so the other shoppers won't try to buy them.  Holiday shoppers have been whipped into a frenzy by months of holiday advertisements, and they will buy anything small enough to stuff into a shopping bag." -- Dave Barry

00:50 <efc> Oh. Buying for other people. I'm less enthusiastic about that.

00:51 <zombie67> "Why does everything have to have a bright side? Isn't is possible to just screw something up, not learn anything, and be miserable?"

00:51 <zombie67> "Sure, what do you think college was all about?" -- Doctor Doctor

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01:29 <zombie67> hm

01:29 <zombie67> where's MT?

01:30 <zombie67> been a while since I've seen him around

01:35 <efc> &seen TheGasGiant

01:35 <Romulus> efc: TheGasGiant was last seen in #boinc 9 weeks, 6 days, 19 hours, 30 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <TheGasGiant> howdy folks

01:35 <efc> &seen olds

01:35 <Romulus> efc: I have not seen olds.

01:36 <efc> &seen old

01:36 <Romulus> efc: old was last seen in #boinc 2 days, 13 hours, 8 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: <old> I'm going to bail and lay back for a bit been nice tank master ,Jay and e-30 take it easy short timer :)

01:36 <zombie67> &seen mtughan

01:36 <Romulus> zombie67: mtughan was last seen in #boinc 1 day, 5 hours, 52 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: <MTughan>

01:36 <zombie67> hoh

01:37 <zombie67> "Why is the alphabet in that order?  Is it because of that song?" -- Steven Wright

01:44 <Tank_Master> lol

01:49 <efc> Is has an order? uh oh

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02:01 <zombie67> "Where do these people come from?  Is there an agency out there that reads the Net and says "oops, not enough morons on this newsgroup" and then assigns some slack-jawed inbred grit-eatin' stooge to gum up the works?" -- Jim Cowling

02:03 * efc pauses from eatin' grits

02:04 <zombie67> Yes, evil comes in many forms, whether it be a man-eating cow or Joseph Stalin, but you can't let the package hide the pudding!  Evil is just plain bad!  You don't cotton to it.  You gotta smack it in the nose with the rolled-up newspaper of goodness!  Bad dog!  Bad dog! -- The Tick

02:05 <zombie67> "I suppose that if I were a baseball fan I'd get equally peeved at 'RBIs,' but the only stick-and-ball-type sport I watch much of is women's beach volleyball with the sound turned off."  -- Scott Fisher

02:06 <zombie67> thank you and good night!

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05:32 <Romulus> <> (at

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06:23 <wdsmia_> &wx 50319

06:23 <Romulus> wdsmia_: Temperature: 16.0F / -8.9C | Humidity: 80% | Pressure: 30.29in / 1025.6hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. High in the mid 20s. West wind 10 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Low around 15. South wind 5 to 10 mph.; Saturday - Mostly sunny. Warmer. High in the upper 30s. South wind 10 to 15 mph.;

06:41 <hawmps> 'lo

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10:57 <desti> [kde-announce] KDE Software Compilation 4.4 Beta1 Released

11:01 <PovAddict> [02:42] <Negatratoron> KDE 4 was like the vista of linux

11:01 <PovAddict> [02:42] <Sho_> I'd say it was more like the OS X 10.0 of Linux.

11:01 <PovAddict> [02:44] <Negatratoron> what was X 10.0 like?

11:01 <PovAddict> [02:44] <Sho_> Well, OS X was a massive next-gen release that introduced massive amounts of new code and frameworks. It was also unstable, slow, featureless and overall not very fun to use.

11:01 <PovAddict> [02:44] <Negatratoron> That's it!!

11:09 <hawmps> sounds right on the money to me...

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11:09 <hawmps> I can't stand kde 4+

11:17 <PovAddict> I can

11:17 <PovAddict> that statement was about KDE4 as a whole

11:17 <PovAddict> 4.0 sucked

11:18 <PovAddict> 4.1 fixed critical issues that obviously nobody had noticed before 4.0 release, but lots of users had

11:18 <PovAddict> however, 4.3 is actually usable

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11:21 <PovAddict> so it's comparable to OS X

11:21 <PovAddict> 10.0 had all internals new and was unusable, but now it's good

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11:41 <Caterpillar> hi guys

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11:41 <Caterpillar-> I have a problem with gpugrid

11:42 <hawmps> not running it.. sorry.

11:43 <Caterpillar-> boinc tells me Your computer has no NVIDIA GPU. I have installed the 190.42 nvidia drivers for 64bit processors

12:11 <hawmps> is this on your box?

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12:23 <Tank_Master> &wx 97123

12:23 <Tank_Master> &more

12:23 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: That's all, there is no more.

12:23 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 29.3F / -1.5C | Humidity: 84% | Pressure: 30.30in / 1026.0hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Patchy fog and freezing fog in the morning. Highs 40 to 45. West wind 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. A slight chance of flurries. Lows 25 to 30. Light wind becoming northeast 5 to 10 mph after (1 more message)

12:23 <Tank_Master> &more

12:23 <Romulus> Tank_Master: midnight.; Saturday - Partly sunny. Highs around 40. Northeast wind 5 to 10 mph.; Special Weather Statement for Washington County in effect until 1:15 PM PST on December 04, 2009;

12:25 <wdsmia_w> &wx 50319

12:25 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: 23.1F / -4.9C | Humidity: 61% | Pressure: 30.25in / 1024.3hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 10.0mph / 16.1km/h ; Rest of Today - Mostly cloudy. Scattered flurries in the morning. High in the mid 20s. West wind 10 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Low around 15. South wind 5 to 10 mph.; Saturday - Mostly sunny. Warmer. High in the (1 more message)

12:25 <wdsmia_w> &more

12:25 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: upper 30s. South wind 10 to 15 mph.;

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12:54 <wdsmia_w> Highest Boinc World position ever 40 at 2009-12-04 :)

13:02 <hawmps> well.. if you weren't using all of iowa's public sector mainfraims and sinking the state budget....

13:02 <hawmps> er mainframes etc etc..

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13:08 <wdsmia_w> sorry Jay all home putters allways have been

13:37 <wdsmia_w> 123M points and not one of them from a *nix box

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15:58 <MTughan> &help later tell

15:58 <Romulus> MTughan: Error: There is no command "later tell".

15:58 <MTughan> Nuts.

15:58 <MTughan> Gonna leave him a message for last...

15:58 <MTughan> zombie67: Been watching the channel, but busy with a new job recently.

16:05 <xcamel> 'lo Mike

16:06 <MTughan> 'lo Jay

16:06 <MTughan> Gotta run off again though...

16:07 <MTughan> If this cat ever gets off me...

16:08 <xcamel> lol -- katz.

16:11 <MTughan> Damn it, lost the "last" message for zombie...

16:11 <MTughan> zombie67: Been watching the channel, but busy with a new job recently.

16:24 <xcamel> and the channel has been watching back...

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17:18 <wdsmia_> re-hi

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17:19 <xcamel> hmmm... dinner.

17:35 * CoderForLife peeks in

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17:36 <wdsmia> its a Peeping Don

17:37 <CoderForLife> indeed =)

17:37 <CoderForLife> just got those pesky bills paid again

17:39 <wdsmia> you didnt pay mine

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18:09 <Rookie_69> Any mummers allowed in?

18:09 <xcamel> only in philly...

18:13 <Rookie_69> Chilly?

18:15 <xcamel>

18:15 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - LOREENA MCKENNITT THE MUMMERS' DANCE (at

18:19 <xcamel> still a voice that could launch a thousand ships...

18:19 <Rookie_69> Yup.

18:31 * CoderForLife adjusts the rotor on his BOINC antenna

18:33 <Rookie_69> Looking for better paying WU's?

18:33 <CoderForLife> oh wow, is that possible?

18:34 <PovAddict> I'm looking for a way to make that question moot

18:34 <Rookie_69> I wouldn't know... I still run P-4's.

18:34 <CoderForLife> someone would find a way to tax it into submission

18:35 <Rookie_69> Gump is good at that sort of thing.

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18:42 <CoderForLife> A better caption:  "Talk to the hand"

18:42 <Romulus> <> (at

19:07 <Rookie_69> Governator has a house/condo on Treasure Island and doesn't want to live underwater???

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20:19 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

20:19 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 20.4F / -6.4C | Humidity: 68% | Pressure: 30.18in / 1021.9hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Partly cloudy. Low 10 to 15. South wind 5 to 10 mph.; Saturday - Mostly sunny. Warmer. High in the upper 30s. South wind 10 to 15 mph.; Saturday Night - Partly cloudy. Low in the lower 20s. Southwest wind (1 more message)

20:19 <wdsmia> &more

20:19 <Romulus> wdsmia: around 10 mph shifting to the west after midnight.;

20:34 <Rookie_69> &wx yaw

20:34 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Temperature: 38.7°F / 3.7°C | Humidity: 83% | Pressure: 30.15in / 1020.9hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h | Updated: 9:34 PM AST; Tonight - Clearing early this evening. Increasing cloudiness overnight. Fog patches developing overnight. Wind northwest 20 km/h (12 mph) becoming light this evening. Low -1C(30F).; Saturday - Cloudy. Fog (1 more message)

20:34 <Rookie_69> &more

20:34 <Romulus> Rookie_69: patches dissipating in the morning. High 5C(41F). Saturday night rain changing to snow near midnight. Rainfall amount 10 mm(0.4 in). Snowfall amount 10 cm. Wind east 20 km/h (12 mph) becoming northeast 40 km/h (25 mph) gusting to 70 km/h (43 mph) overnight. Low 0C(32F).; Sunday - Periods of snow or rain. High 1C(34F).;

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20:40 <Tank_Master> got my new 2TB HD...

20:40 <Tank_Master> (HD drives) 4.64TB total space, 2.7TB(58.2%) free

20:43 <wdsmia> do you really need that much porn?

20:44 <Rookie_69> Duh... Yeah!

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20:52 <Tank_Master> no shyt

20:52 <Tank_Master> theres never enough space for porn

20:52 <Tank_Master> it jsut keep cumming and cumming...

20:59 <Rookie_69> Just like the Energizer Bunny with his batteries in backwards...

21:06 <Tank_Master> yep

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21:38 <Rookie_69> Nature cannot be fooled? I defy anyone to say that to any woman with a packet of dye in hand...

22:35 <Rookie_69> NN.

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