IRC logs of #boinc for Saturday, 2009-12-05

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00:49 <quail> wtf.com http://www.kpho.com/news/21778774/detail.html

00:49 <Romulus> Title: Alien-Hunting School Employee Resigns - Phoenix News Story - KPHO Phoenix (at www.kpho.com)

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01:44 <quail> stupid neighbour => http://www.flickr.com/photos/13113156@N02/

01:44 <Romulus> Title: Flickr: QuailLinux's Photostream (at www.flickr.com)

01:44 <XioNYC> I wish headlines were better written: I understood "Alien-Hunting School Employee Resigns" to mean an Elmer Fudd-like person gave up teaching how shoot Marvin the Martian, and not that a (the?) leading SETI cruncher was forced out of a job because he was crunching on the school district's computers...

01:45 <XioNYC> (I liked my reading better...)

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01:53 <PovAddict> quail: is he driving in circles and throwing dust everywhere?

01:55 <yoyo[RKN]> moin

01:56 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx sxf

01:56 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 34.0°F / 1.1°C | Humidity: 95% | Pressure: 29.97in / 1014.8hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h | Updated: 7:52 AM CET; Unknown. High:34 F.; Partly Cloudy. Low:31 F.; Partly Cloudy. High:42 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:35 F.; Scattered Clouds. High:46 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:41 F.;

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02:00 <quail> PovAddict: yeah, he been doing all day on and off

02:00 <PovAddict> wtf

02:01 <quail> and all the times he's had ~10 year old kid in the passengers side seat

02:01 <PovAddict> he must be having fun

02:02 <PovAddict> it's all fun and games until the frigging car flips upside down right? :)

02:02 <quail> PovAddict: yeah, I hoping to catch pictures of that or him loosing it in the creek

02:09 <XioNYC> If you do, I lay claim to the OLPC in his "Events" photos (I need a new battery for mine).

02:10 <PovAddict> XioNYC: those photos are quail's

02:10 <PovAddict> and so is the OLPC probably :)

02:13 <XioNYC> If you don't ask, you never get ;-)

02:13 <XioNYC> Oh.. .wait...

02:14 * XioNYC flips his brain's switch firmly into the "on" position.

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02:15 <XioNYC> Ah - now I understand what you meant... (oops!)

02:20 <quail> XioNYC: hehe

02:24 <XioNYC> Sorry 'bout that, quail: I had a small brainfart :-P

02:55 <quail> np, no harm done, hehe

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06:09 <XioNYC> &wx LGA

06:09 <Romulus> XioNYC: Temperature: 45F / 7C | Humidity: 52% | Pressure: 30.12in / 1020hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h ; Today - A chance of rain this morning. Periods of rain this afternoon. Breezy with highs in the mid 40s. North winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph. Chance of rain near 100 percent.; Tonight - Periods of rain in the evening. Cloudy (1 more message)

06:09 <XioNYC> &more

06:09 <Romulus> XioNYC: with a chance of snow. Little or no snow accumulation. Windy with lows in the lower 30s. North winds 20 to 25 mph with gusts up to 30 mph. Chance of precipitation 90 percent.; Sunday - Mostly sunny and breezy. Highs in the mid 40s. Northwest winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph.;

06:10 <quail> &wx ypad

06:11 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 63°F / 17°C | Humidity: 63% | Pressure: 30.09in / 1019hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 14mph / 22km/h | Updated: 9:30 PM CST; Clear. High:77 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:51 F.; Scattered Clouds. High:82 F.; Clear. Low:55 F.; Scattered Clouds. High:77 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:57 F.;

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06:44 <quail> SysInfo: Linux 2.6.30-2-486 |  VIA Samuel 2 533.309 MHz | Bogomips: 1066.61 | Mem: 434/495M [||||||||||] | Diskspace: 9.03G Free: 7.73G | Procs: 60 | Uptime: 2 days 7 hrs 47 mins 57 secs | Load: 0.05 0.04 0.00  | Screen: Trident Microsystems CyberBlade/i1 (rev 6a) | ppp0: In: 190.58M Out: 114.19M

06:44 <quail> Sensors: CPU: +24.0°C Fan: 0 RPM Case: +32.0°C Fan: 0 RPM

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08:22 <miha> hey mr Bot :D

09:11 <xcamel> &wx 12074

09:11 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 31.8F / -0.1C | Humidity: 95% | Pressure: 30.18in / 1021.9hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Cloudy. A slight chance of rain this morning...then snow likely with a chance of rain this afternoon. Little or no snow accumulation. Cooler with highs in the upper 30s. North winds around 5 mph. Chance of (1 more message)

09:11 <xcamel> &more

09:11 <Romulus> xcamel: precipitation 60 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Snow likely in the evening. Snow accumulation a dusting. Lows in the upper 20s. Northwest winds around 10 mph. Chance of snow 60 percent.; Sunday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the upper 30s. West winds 5 to 10 mph.;

09:12 <CoderForLife> morning Jay

09:12 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

09:12 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 27.3F / -2.6C | Humidity: 92% | Pressure: 30.09in / 1018.8hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 3.5mph / 5.6km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. Highs in the mid 30s. Northwest winds around 5 mph.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows 15 to 20. Southwest winds around 5 mph.; Sunday - Partly sunny. Highs around 40. South winds 5 to 10 mph.;

09:12 <xcamel> 'elo

09:13 <CoderForLife> just got back in from the grocery store

09:16 <miha> hello :D

09:17 <miha> i recently tried boinc after years it's pretty amazing waste of spare cpu time :D

09:34 <xcamel> haven't ventured outside yet.. it's a bit chilly...

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09:53 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 22.1F / -5.5C | Humidity: 70% | Pressure: 30.08in / 1018.5hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Today - Sunny...warmer. High in the upper 30s. South wind 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Low around 20. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph shifting to the northwest after midnight.; Sunday - Mostly cloudy. A slight (1 more message)

09:53 <wdsmia> &more

09:53 <Romulus> wdsmia: chance of snow early in the afternoon. Snow likely late in the afternoon. Snow accumulation up to 1 inch. High in the lower 30s. Northeast wind 5 to 15 mph. Chance of snow 70 percent.;

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11:41 <bazyli> Hi all

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14:22 <aditsu> hi

14:23 <aditsu> I'm trying to set up boinc on gentoo but failing, can somebody help me out?

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14:34 <Erkan_Yilmaz__> aditsu: would this help you ? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Installing_BOINC_on_Gentoo

14:34 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/c82yue> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

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14:41 <CoderForLife_> hmm

14:41 <CoderForLife_> switching to the Google DNS makes things fall down, go boom

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14:42 <PovAddict> why are you outsourcing critical network infrastructure to that evil company?

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14:43 <CoderForLife> because - eventually they will own everything - I'm trying to make nice early to get in early

14:43 <CoderForLife> thought I'd see how much faster their DNS is

14:43 <PovAddict> they have an opt-out option for that

14:43 <PovAddict> http://www.theonion.com/content/video/google_opt_out_feature_lets_users

14:43 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/kkn3k7> (at www.theonion.com)

14:46 <CoderForLife> heh

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15:23 <aditsu> Erkan_Yilmaz__: sorry I missed your message; it doesn't help much because some of the info is wrong, and in the verify step, there's no boinc_client found

15:25 <aditsu> Erkan_Yilmaz__: also I tried to use boincmgr but after step 3 (entering the password which never existed initially), nothing happens

15:25 <Erkan_Yilmaz__> I don't have atm gentoo started to reexperience - I guess also some more info would be needed - let's see if some other gentoo user is here or another option would be to join the gentoo irc channel

15:25 <aditsu> Erkan_Yilmaz__: also in the simple view, it says "retrieving current status" for a LOOOOONG time, and then finally shows "Error"

15:25 <Erkan_Yilmaz__> could be #gentoo

15:26 <aditsu> I tried there but there seems to be no boinc user available

15:26 <Erkan_Yilmaz__> I see

15:27 <aditsu> do you know how to run things manually and how to check for errors?

15:28 <Erkan_Yilmaz__> well, normally you can do on different OS all with the command line tool boinccmd or boinc_cmd

15:28 <Erkan_Yilmaz__> can you try to see if you have an executable like that ?

15:28 <Erkan_Yilmaz__> if you just start it it will give you parameters to start with

15:29 <PovAddict> ...if the daemon is running at all

15:29 <aditsu> I have boinccmd, should I run it as my normal user?

15:29 <PovAddict> yes

15:30 <aditsu> ok, I tried "boinccmd --get_state" and it says "can't connect to local host"

15:30 <PovAddict> then BOINC is not running at all

15:30 <aditsu> how can I start it?

15:31 <Erkan_Yilmaz__> type ls boinc* to see teh other executables (if you are in boinc dir) otherwise just type boinc + tab for a list

15:31 <aditsu> boinc         boinc_client  boinccmd      boincmgr

15:31 <PovAddict> no you'll probably do a mess accidentally

15:31 <PovAddict> I have seen many people run boinc_client with $HOME as their current directory

15:31 <aditsu> it's already messed up

15:31 <PovAddict> and then that dumps all sorts of state files directly there

15:32 <Erkan_Yilmaz__> ok, PovAddict sems to know more

15:32 <PovAddict> you need to choose a 'data directory' for BOINC and always run the client from there

15:32 <aditsu> ok I made a new dir for it, what do I run?

15:33 <PovAddict> cd into it :) and run "boinc"

15:33 <PovAddict> or boinc_client...

15:33 <aditsu> wow, it's the first time I see it doing something

15:33 <aditsu> didn't know it cared so much about the current dir

15:34 <PovAddict> it doesn't... you can also pass it as --dir=my/data/dir :)

15:34 <PovAddict> but yeah

15:34 <PovAddict> it's common for newbies to run boinc_client from one place, then reboot and run it from somewhere else and "where did all my projects go??"

15:34 <aditsu> wohoo, the mgr seems to work now

15:35 <aditsu> what's an "account manager"? it lets me attach to a project or to that

15:35 <PovAddict> ugh

15:35 <PovAddict> I argued against putting account manager and projects in the same wizard, naturally nobody listened

15:36 <aditsu> I guess I'll go with project..

15:36 <PovAddict> you can attach your client to an account manager, then manage what projects to run from the account manager website, so from the website you can control multiple machines

15:36 <aditsu> oops, it bombed

15:36 <PovAddict> most people don't need one

15:37 <aditsu> ok it's back.. does the mgr kill boinc when you close it?

15:38 <PovAddict> if you started the client yourself, no

15:39 <aditsu> anyway I added a project now but the manager still says I don't have any projects

15:40 <aditsu> oh, it's running something now

15:42 <aditsu> oh great, time remaining is increasing

15:45 <aditsu> is there a general overview of tasks available through boinc? I'm on something called "world community grid" which itself does a bunch of different things

15:45 <PovAddict> you'd see that on WCG website

15:46 <aditsu> ok but that's only one url (project?), there were plenty others available to choose from

15:46 <aditsu> in boinc

15:46 <aditsu> instead of checking them one by one, I was wondering if there's a global overview

15:47 <PovAddict> there may be... :)

15:47 <PovAddict> but there's no "central list"

15:48 <aditsu> ah, http://boinc.berkeley.edu/projects.php groups them in categories

15:48 <Romulus> Title: Choosing BOINC projects (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

15:48 <aditsu> and they got tooltip descriptions.. great!

15:52 <aditsu> well, thanks a lot for helping me set it up

15:53 <aditsu> is it safe to change the working dir location? by moving the files?

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17:47 <PovAddict> aditsu: "grep -r" for the current path first

17:47 <PovAddict> to make sure there isn't some absolute path lurking in some file

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18:27 <CoderForLife_> dagnabbit

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18:39 <PovAddict> &wx eze

18:39 <Romulus> PovAddict: Temperature: 57°F / 14°C | Humidity: 94% | Pressure: 29.89in / 1012hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h | Updated: 8:00 PM ART; Chance of Rain. High:75 F.; Partly Cloudy. Low:51 F.; Scattered Clouds. High:75 F.; Partly Cloudy. Low:53 F.; Scattered Clouds. High:77 F.; Partly Cloudy. Low:59 F.;

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21:24 <KathrynM> &wx ulsan

21:25 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 37°F / 3°C | Humidity: 24% | Pressure: 30.21in / 1023hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 14mph / 22km/h | Updated: 11:00 AM KST; Clear. High:46 F.; Clear. Low:28 F.; Clear. High:50 F.; Clear. Low:32 F.; Partly Cloudy. High:53 F.; Overcast. Low:37 F.;

22:13 <quail> just added more pics here => http://www.flickr.com/photos/13113156@N02/

22:13 <Romulus> Title: Flickr: QuailLinux's Photostream (at www.flickr.com)

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23:10 <zombie67> anansi:  temp. maint.

23:10 <zombie67> http://canis.csc.ncsu.edu:8005/anansi/forum_thread.php?id=41

23:10 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/ybpy22o> (at canis.csc.ncsu.edu:8005)

23:11 <PovAddict> http://canis.csc.ncsu.edu:8005/anansi/forum_thread.php?id=12

23:11 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/yg5yewt> (at canis.csc.ncsu.edu:8005)

23:11 <PovAddict> "BOINC@Poland sabortaged the project, because the results of their computers are useless. "

23:11 <PovAddict> that's the project's fault for having a stupid validator

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