IRC logs of #boinc for Friday, 2009-12-18

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00:40 <zombie67> hah!I broke out some old PPC macs for the challenge

00:40 <zombie67> still had 6.2.18

00:40 <PovAddict> did it start yet?

00:41 <PovAddict> ah 12 hrs to go

00:41 <zombie67> yep

00:41 <zombie67> my new GTC 295 will do well

00:42 <zombie67> GTX

00:42 <zombie67> huh

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00:42 <efc> i'm still looking at a new rig for a video card like that.. need to replace UPS too, turns out

00:42 <zombie67> the osx installer does not give you the option to NOT run BOINC after installing like on win

00:43 <PovAddict> zombie67: I installed BOINC on Mac only once

00:43 <PovAddict> it was a horrible experience

00:43 <zombie67> heh

00:43 <PovAddict> generic "application" showing up on the dock with obscure names during the installation process...

00:43 <PovAddict> generic application icon*

00:46 <zombie67> how is syn coming along?

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02:17 <miha> morning :D

02:28 <miha> i wonder when do changes in Pootle result in changes in SVN? :D

02:30 <efc> Pootle? we are running out of names.

02:30 <miha> lol

02:30 <miha> well that web translation interface

02:31 <miha> when is it updated to svn?

02:31 <miha> thing is i only see the nasty stuff when i try it in program :D

02:31 <miha> things like... column width and such :D

02:38 <miha> if anyone wants to give me anything else to translate such as seti@home or rosetta@home... i'm bored :D

02:44 <miha> btw is it normal that einstein@home buttons are aligned to the right?

02:45 <miha> it's ugly :D

03:17 <efc> I don't run it anymore unfortunately

03:17 <efc> Can't remember why I quit

03:17 <efc> But I don't remember it being weird

03:18 <miha> http://www.wolfey.si/einstein-sl.png

03:19 <miha> only einstein has these buttons so to the right of panel

03:19 <miha> rest are fine

03:20 <miha> or

03:20 <miha> i just got it

03:20 <miha> i have one translation way to long

03:20 <miha> which makes it aligned this way? :D

03:20 <miha> it is center

03:20 <miha> just panel has 'overflow' :D

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04:41 <miha> so

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05:20 <quail> 'evening

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05:21 <quail> who want to see the wild baby galah I caught this afternoon at home?

05:21 <miha> what's that :D

05:24 <quail> look at the top 2 pics here => http://www.flickr.com/photos/13113156@N02/

05:24 <Romulus> Title: Flickr: QuailLinux's Photostream (at www.flickr.com)

05:25 <quail> it a native australian parrot

05:25 <miha> looks great

05:25 <miha> will you keep it?

05:29 <quail> yeah, as it can't fly very well, and now it just does not want to fly

05:31 <miha> :D

05:31 <miha> that's love quail

05:32 <quail> I was surprised to how quickly he came friendly

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05:59 * miha wonders when translations will be updated.. and can i preview boinc website :D

05:59 <Proton23> I already asked a question a few days ago but had to leave suddenly so I couldn't wait for an answer so here again:

06:00 <Proton23> You have not provided a signature file for /home/boincadm/projects/cplan/apps/uppercase/uppercase_1.1_i686-pc-linux-gnu/uppercase_1.1_i686-pc-linux-gnu.

06:00 <Proton23> I can generate one now, but this is highly unrecommended.  Generating code

06:00 <Proton23> signatures on network-connected computers is a security vulnerability, and

06:00 <Proton23> should not be done for publicly-accessable projects.

06:00 <Proton23> Continue with automatically generating a code signature? [y/N]  y

06:00 <Proton23> Signing /home/boincadm/projects/cplan/apps/uppercase/uppercase_1.1_i686-pc-linux-gnu/uppercase_1.1_i686-pc-linux-gnu

06:00 <Proton23> /home/boincadm/projects/cplan/bin

06:00 <Proton23> sign_executable not found! did you `make' it?

06:00 <Proton23> what does it mean?

06:03 <miha> that applications need to be digitally signed and you didnt sign yours. or the ones you got it from, didn't

06:03 <miha> (guess)

06:09 <Proton23> I'm trying to setup my own project so how do i sign it?

06:10 <miha> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/CertSig

06:10 <Romulus> Title: CertSig - BOINC - Trac (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

06:11 <miha> http://www.boinc-wiki.info/Creating_a_Project_-_Adding_applications

06:11 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/yzb7ael> (at www.boinc-wiki.info)

06:11 * miha didn't do that. but i'd start with these :D

06:14 <Proton23> Thanks. I guess... I'll be back! ;)

06:14 <miha> for more you'd have to find rest here :D

06:39 <Proton23> And here we go again :)

06:39 <Proton23> the signing worked just fine

06:40 <Proton23> but I still can't get test app "uppercase" to work

06:42 <Proton23> i sign in for the test project and that's it

06:42 <Proton23> no computing

06:42 <Proton23> :(

06:43 <miha> You have not provided a signature file for /home/boincadm/projects/cplan/apps/uppercase/uppercase_1.1_i686-pc-linux-gnu/uppercase_1.1_i686-pc-linux-gnu.

06:43 <miha> The .sig file @ http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/CertSig exists?

06:43 <Romulus> Title: CertSig - BOINC - Trac (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

06:43 <miha> i mean, did you *provide* it?

06:47 <Proton23> On this page http://www.boinc-wiki.info/Creating_a_Project_-_Adding_applications

06:47 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/yzb7ael> (at www.boinc-wiki.info)

06:47 <Proton23> there is the instruction

06:47 <Proton23> ./bin/sign_executable apps/upper_case/upper_case_4.00_i686-pc-linux-gnu /path/to/keys/code_sign_priva

06:47 <Proton23> te >> apps/upper_case/upper_case_4.00_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sig

06:48 <Proton23> I did that and than ./update_version ran

06:49 <Proton23> ok, let me guess

06:49 <Proton23> should I take a look at http://www.boinc-wiki.info/Creating_a_Project_-_Creating_work ?

06:50 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/yk38uos> (at www.boinc-wiki.info)

06:50 <Proton23> thanks... again :)

06:52 <miha> Proton23 wouldn't know myself

06:52 <miha> but read all of it :D

06:52 <Proton23> :D

06:53 <miha> Proton23 write a blog about it, so i can retrace your steps :D

06:58 <hawmps> just damn..

06:58 <hawmps> -8F

07:02 <hawmps> &wx 12020

07:02 <Romulus> hawmps: Temperature: -0.8F / -18.2C | Humidity: 75% | Pressure: 30.22in / 1023.2hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Cold with highs in the lower 20s. West winds around 5 mph this morning...becoming light and variable.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Cold with lows around 6 above. Light and variable winds...becoming northeast around (1 more message)

07:02 <hawmps> &more

07:02 <Romulus> hawmps: 5 mph after midnight.; Saturday - Partly sunny. Cold with highs in the mid 20s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph.;

07:21 <Proton23> I guess I have to start all over again

07:21 <Proton23> Fr 18 Dez 2009 13:18:53 CET|testprojekt|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.  Requesting 60480 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks

07:21 <Proton23> Fr 18 Dez 2009 13:18:55 CET||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site

07:21 <Proton23> Fr 18 Dez 2009 13:18:56 CET||Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.

07:21 <Proton23> Fr 18 Dez 2009 13:18:59 CET|testprojekt|Scheduler request failed: Couldn't resolve host name

07:21 <Proton23> be back in several hours

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08:38 <quail> hawmps: hi Jay

08:38 <quail> wdsmia_w: hi Doug

08:40 <wdsmia_w> mornin

08:42 <quail> wdsmia_w n hawmps http://www.flickr.com/photos/13113156@N02/ first 2 pics

08:42 <Romulus> Title: Flickr: QuailLinux's Photostream (at www.flickr.com)

08:46 <hawmps> there.. xmas for me.

08:48 <quail> huh?

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09:12 <miha> so any developers here? :D

09:13 <miha> Proton23 's questions are still unanswered :D

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09:35 <Proton23> now I did everything as described on the page still got this error

09:36 <Proton23> i tried rosetta and it work just fine so it's no issue of firewall or something like that

09:36 <Proton23> :(

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09:58 <PovAddict> what did you use as project URL?

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10:25 <PovAddict> Google Wave invite (afaik it's not tied to my email address), first to join gets it: https://wave.google.com/wave/invite?a=pre&wtok=8b75be498acc3057&wsig=ABk8uhS1NkIJW3jkr3oIleHtSEkMwdEzLQ

10:25 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/yjlntab> (at wave.google.com)

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10:47 <Proton23> I took the dyndns-address of my server

10:47 <Proton23> now I get it

10:48 <Proton23> it's http://hostname/testproject/

10:48 <PovAddict> does "dig hostname" give you the correct server IP?

10:48 <Proton23> where should i put this?

10:49 <PovAddict> in your shell, as a command

10:49 <Proton23> on the server?

10:50 <PovAddict> on the machine where you're running the client, to ensure the hostname resolves from there

10:51 <Proton23> ; <<>> DiG 9.5.1-P3 <<>> xxxxxxxxxxx.homelinux.com

10:52 <Proton23> ;; global options:  printcmd

10:52 <Proton23> ;; Got answer:

10:52 <Proton23> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 34785

10:52 <Proton23> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

10:53 <Proton23> another problem just came up

10:53 <Proton23> the client freezes

10:53 <PovAddict> dig should have given you a result like this:

10:54 <PovAddict> ;; QUESTION SECTION:

10:54 <PovAddict> ;google.com.                    IN      A

10:54 <PovAddict> ;; ANSWER SECTION:

10:54 <PovAddict> google.com.             300     IN      A       209.85.195.147

10:55 <Proton23> ; <<>> DiG 9.5.1-P3 <<>> xxxxxxxxxx.homelinux.com

10:55 <Proton23> ;; global options:  printcmd

10:55 <Proton23> ;; Got answer:

10:55 <Proton23> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 34785

10:55 <Proton23> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0

10:55 <Proton23> ;; QUESTION SECTION:

10:55 <Proton23> ;xxxxxxxxxx.homelinux.com.INA

10:56 <Proton23> ;; ANSWER SECTION:

10:56 <Proton23> xxxxxxxxxx.homelinux.com. 60INA87.124.38.240

10:56 <Proton23> ;; Query time: 88 msec

10:56 <Proton23> ;; SERVER: 192.168.0.1#53(192.168.0.1)

10:56 <Proton23> ;; WHEN: Fri Dec 18 16:50:32 2009

10:56 <PovAddict> ok so it does give an IP address

10:56 <Proton23> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 61

10:56 <PovAddict> you shouldn't be getting this then:

10:56 <PovAddict> "Scheduler request failed: Couldn't resolve host name"

10:58 <Proton23> may it's a problem with the network here

10:58 <Proton23> i will try it again at home

10:58 <Proton23> brb

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11:30 <yoyo[RKN]> moin

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12:09 <hawmps> 'lo yoyo

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13:17 <yoyo_RKN> &wx sxf

13:17 <Romulus> yoyo_RKN: Temperature: 10°F / -12°C | Humidity: 79% | Pressure: 29.83in / 1010hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 12mph / 18km/h | Updated: 6:50 PM CET; Overcast. High:19 F.; Overcast. Low:13 F.; Overcast. High:15 F.; Partly Cloudy. Low:8 F.; Chance of Snow. High:26 F.; Chance of Snow. Low:22 F.;

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14:58 <yoyo_RKN> last time I update boinc source code to server_stable branch

14:59 <yoyo_RKN> is this still used, if I run now just svn update?

14:59 <PovAddict> run 'svn info' to know what path you are in

15:00 <yoyo_RKN> URL: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/svn/branches/server_stable/html

15:00 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/yf2fmyq> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

15:00 <PovAddict> yup that's what you will get if you svn up

15:01 <yoyo_RKN> hmm

15:01 <yoyo_RKN> nothing updated

15:01 <PovAddict> nothing was changed in the server_stable branch

15:01 <yoyo_RKN> I want to use the new project news stuff

15:02 <PovAddict> you have to switch to trunk then

15:02 <yoyo_RKN> can I do it only in the html dir?

15:02 <PovAddict> yes

15:03 <PovAddict> but I don't know if there were DB changes too

15:03 <PovAddict> yoyo@server:~/boinc/html$ svn switch http://boinc.berkeley.edu/svn/trunk/boinc/html

15:03 <Romulus> Title: Revision 19972: /trunk/boinc/html (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

15:04 <PovAddict> nope, no DB changes

15:06 <yoyo_RKN> thx

15:58 <yoyo_RKN> the news forum runs now

15:59 <yoyo_RKN> how can I configure, that a user can post there

15:59 <yoyo_RKN> by default a user can't create a new thread

15:59 <PovAddict> that's the idea

15:59 <PovAddict> you don't want any user to post news on your front page, do you?

16:00 <yoyo_RKN> but now I want to enable one of my users, that he can post

16:01 <yoyo_RKN> in ops pages I can configure users as moderator, adminin, developer abd so on

16:02 <PovAddict> ah

16:02 <yoyo_RKN> but which one can post in the news forum

16:02 <PovAddict> I don't know what the magic flag is

16:12 <yoyo_RKN> must be a project admin

16:16 <xcamel> 'lo

16:18 <yoyo_RKN> &wx sxf

16:18 <Romulus> yoyo_RKN: Temperature: 10°F / -12°C | Humidity: 85% | Pressure: 29.83in / 1010hPa | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h | Updated: 9:50 PM CET; Partly Cloudy. High:19 F.; Overcast. Low:13 F.; Overcast. High:15 F.; Partly Cloudy. Low:8 F.; Partly Cloudy. High:26 F.; Chance of Snow. Low:22 F.;

16:18 <yoyo_RKN> brrrr

16:18 <PovAddict> &wx eze

16:18 <Romulus> PovAddict: Temperature: 86°F / 30°C | Humidity: 55% | Pressure: 29.89in / 1012hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 12mph / 18km/h | Updated: 6:00 PM ART; Clear. High:84 F.; Partly Cloudy. Low:71 F.; Thunderstorm. High:80 F.; Thunderstorm. Low:59 F.; Chance of Rain. High:80 F.; Partly Cloudy. Low:57 F.;

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16:53 <xcamel> same brrrr here...

16:53 <xcamel> 13F

17:17 <Tank_Master> &wx 97123

17:17 <Tank_Master> &more

17:17 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: That's all, there is no more.

17:17 <Tank_Master> &more

17:17 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: That's all, there is no more.

17:17 <Tank_Master> &more

17:17 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: That's all, there is no more.

17:17 <Tank_Master> &more

17:17 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: That's all, there is no more.

17:17 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 48.7F / 9.3C | Humidity: 98% | Pressure: 30.24in / 1023.9hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with scattered showers. Patchy fog overnight. Lows in the mid 30s to around 40. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph except east 15 to 25 mph near The Gorge decreasing after midnight.; Saturday - Mostly cloudy. (1 more message)

17:17 <Tank_Master> &more

17:17 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Patchy fog in the morning. A slight chance of rain in the morning...then a chance of rain in the afternoon. Highs 45 to 50. Light wind becoming east 5 to 15 mph in the afternoon except 15 to 25 mph near The Gorge.; Saturday Night - Occasional rain. Lows 40 to 45. East wind 5 to 15 mph...except east wind 15 to 25 mph near The Gorge.;

17:17 <Tank_Master> thre was to more, dumb bot

17:17 <Tank_Master> :)

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17:38 <wdsmia> re-hi

17:44 <Tank_Master> re-wb

17:45 * wdsmia thows Tank_Master back into the crevasse

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17:52 <xcamel> re-hi

17:54 <wdsmia> *lo Jay

18:01 <xcamel> Hi there.

18:02 <xcamel> oopsie.. down to 11

18:04 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

18:04 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 26.8F / -2.9C | Humidity: 80% | Pressure: 30.07in / 1018.2hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Haze | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Tonight - Cloudy. Areas of fog in the evening. Patchy freezing drizzle overnight. No ice accumulation. Low 15 to 20. North wind 10 to 15 mph.; Saturday - Cloudy. High in the mid 20s. Northwest wind 10 to 15 mph.; Saturday Night - (1 more message)

18:04 <wdsmia> &more

18:04 <Romulus> wdsmia: Mostly cloudy then becoming partly cloudy before midnight and early morning then becoming mostly cloudy. Low 10 to 15. Northwest wind 5 to 10 mph shifting to the southwest after midnight.; Special Weather Statement for Polk County in effect until 4:00 PM CST on December 19, 2009;

18:30 <wdsmia> why is it that when your on a diet all people send you for christmas is food and candy

18:30 <PovAddict> humbug

18:30 <wdsmia> Bah

18:35 <wdsmia> http://home.mchsi.com/~d.barker/bah_humbug.gif

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18:37 <Tank_Master> so thats how coal is delivered...

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18:40 <PovAddict> hi BB

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19:21 <xcamel> poof..

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19:38 <Rookie_69> Hmm... Somebody has taken their coloured markers to my Chatzilla.

19:40 * Tank_Master slaps Rookie_69 with a colored marker

19:41 * Rookie_69 takes slap in stride and plots his revenge.

19:41 <xcamel> 'lo Glenn

19:41 * Rookie_69 realizes that he's too lazy for revenge.

19:41 <Rookie_69> Hi, Jay.

19:46 <xcamel> back into the single digits... now 5F

19:46 <PovAddict> brr

19:47 <PovAddict> I want some of that :P

19:47 <PovAddict> &wx eze

19:47 <Romulus> PovAddict: Temperature: 77°F / 25°C | Humidity: 69% | Pressure: 29.92in / 1013hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h | Updated: 9:00 PM ART; Clear. High:84 F.; Partly Cloudy. Low:71 F.; Thunderstorm. High:80 F.; Thunderstorm. Low:59 F.; Chance of Rain. High:80 F.; Partly Cloudy. Low:57 F.;

19:47 * wdsmia thows a snowball at PovAddict

19:47 <Rookie_69> 13F here atm... was a bit nippier last night.

19:48 * Rookie_69 wants some of Pov's temps.

19:50 <Tank_Master> tiz almost 10c here

19:50 <Rookie_69> 77 and 6 knots... great for drifting around the harbour.

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20:09 <efc> Anybody in the 4-5 feet of snow zone?

20:09 <PovAddict> I guess I'm not...

20:09 <Rookie_69> I got an inch or two...

20:10 <efc> rained a ton here but not cold enough to freeze. 37 outside now.

20:10 <efc> I'm firing up the P3 army to console myself.

20:11 <Rookie_69> I thought about starting up box #5, but it seems to have warmed up a bit.

20:11 <efc> the p3s use some juice but they don't make a lot of RAC

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20:13 <efc> dad wants a UPS for the tv upstairs so I measured the wattage.. varies, but 145 to 230 W

20:14 <PovAddict> http://stuff.povaddict.com.ar/voltage.png

20:14 * Rookie_69 thinks UPS should have been built into everything electronic from the factory.

20:15 * PovAddict thinks computers need a 12v input

20:16 <PovAddict> it's stupidly wasteful for the UPS to get electricity from the battery and increase voltage to 220v (or 110v) AC, just for the computer PSU to convert it back to low-voltage DC

20:16 * wdsmia thinks he needs another video card

20:16 <PovAddict> I read somewhere that Google actually does that for its servers

20:17 <PovAddict> single PSU / UPS for multiple machines

20:17 <Rookie_69> True.

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22:33 <Rookie_69> NN.

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