IRC logs of #boinc for Thursday, 2009-12-24

00:15 <MerryTughan> zombie67: In answer to the second question, the G4's would be able to run Leopard, but not Snow Leopard.

00:15 <MerryTughan> And the GCC compiler does support ASM, but there are some differences with special code that I've run into before. The best way is just to try it and see.

00:16 <MerryTughan> And I'm off to bed. Feel free to quote me to the admin though.

01:04 <zombie67> thanks!!

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02:15 * xionyc had this to add before hitting the pillow...

02:15 <xionyc> Bona fide 64-bit OS X only exists on the x86 Macs.  Apple (in its infinite stupidity) never quite got around to making a fully 64-bit OS on the PowerPC for 10.5, mostly because it would have had all the G4 owners screaming bloody murder (the G4 is 32-bit, not 64).  Said owners would've probably plunked down the cash for x86 Macs anyway, thereby giving "Good old Steve" his jollies, but I digress...

02:15 <xionyc> As for the G5s <g>, yes: it /can/ run 64-bit PPC code (ex.: there are 64- and a 32-bit versions of MySQL for PowerPC/OS X), but considering that the vast majority of 10.5's code is 32-bit (if not all of it), the benefits of 64-bit code are lost in Leopard limbo in the same way that the original PowerPC models' performances were stunted by the fact that very little of System 7's code was compiled for PowerPCs.  (Ah... those were the days...)

02:15 <xionyc> All in all, it *can* be done.  But by doing so, you aliente all but G5 owners.  And, as a closing corollary, if you want to really take massive advantage of a 64-bit PowerPC, run Linux. (YDL 6.2 on my quad G5 is so fast that I can't even keep up anymore!)

02:15 <xionyc> NN all, and good luck with the last-minute shopping!

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06:19 <hawmps> mornin

06:31 <miha> hey

06:49 <quail> 'evening

06:49 <quail> TheJollyRedGiant: hey mate, long time no see, how you been?

06:49 <miha> ho ho ho :D

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07:01 <miha> how are the spirits ? :D

07:01 <quail> not tobad, and you?

07:02 <miha> good i guess...

07:03 <miha> hope i chose gifts right :D

07:22 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx sxf

07:22 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 34°F / 1°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.50in / 999hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h | Updated: 12:50 PM CET; Partly Cloudy. High:37 F.; Chance of Rain. Low:32 F.; Chance of Snow. High:37 F.; Chance of Snow. Low:32 F.; Chance of Snow. High:41 F.; Chance of Snow. Low:32 F.;

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08:00 <Bah_Humbug> &wx 50319

08:00 <Romulus> Bah_Humbug: Temperature: 33.7F / 0.9C | Humidity: 97% | Pressure: 29.87in / 1011.4hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Light Drizzle | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Breezy. Rain until late afternoon. Freezing rain early in the afternoon. Snow in the afternoon. Snow accumulation around 1 inch. Ice accumulation up to one tenth of an inch. High in the mid 30s. Temperature (2 more messages)

08:00 <Bah_Humbug> &more

08:00 <Romulus> Bah_Humbug: steady or slowly falling in the afternoon. North wind 5 to 10 mph increasing to 10 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Tonight - Snow and sleet through midnight...then snow after midnight. Areas of blowing snow through the night. Breezy. Snow and sleet accumulation of 4 to 5 inches. Low in the mid 20s. North wind 15 to 25 (1 more message)

08:01 <Bah_Humbug> &more

08:01 <Romulus> Bah_Humbug: mph. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Christmas Day - Snow. Areas of blowing snow. Breezy...colder. Snow accumulation around 3 inches. High in the mid 20s. Temperature steady or slowly falling in the afternoon. West wind 15 to 25 mph. Chance of snow near 100 percent.; Winter Storm Warning for Polk County in effect until 6:00 AM CST on December 26, 2009;

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08:16 <quail> &wx Roseworthy Ag College, South Australia

08:16 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 60.4°F / 15.8°C | Humidity: 64% | Pressure: 29.29in / 991.8hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 3.8mph / 6.1km/h | Updated: 11:46 PM CST; Clear. High:75 F.; Clear. Low:53 F.; Clear. High:75 F.; Clear. Low:53 F.; Clear. High:82 F.; Clear. Low:55 F.;

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09:07 <hawmps> finally got a decent install of FC 12

09:10 <miha> fedora? awww :(

09:17 <hawmps> yeah..

09:17 <hawmps> I'm an old redhat junkie.

09:18 * miha used fedora... 3 ? it sucked. then i switched to gentoo... now i ended up with ubuntu

09:21 <miha> i guess i could live with anything

09:21 <miha> as long as it is unix and has Gnome :D

09:23 * hawmps hates gnome

09:23 <miha> why :D

09:43 <quail> omg wow => http://blogs.computerworld.com/15275/shuttleworth_steps_down_as_ubuntu_ceo?source=rss_blogs

09:43 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/ybh33no> (at blogs.computerworld.com)

09:44 <quail> miha: get with the real party and come to Debian :-P

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09:45 <miha> quail i dont like this "stable" thing... even ubuntu stable is computer history :D

09:45 <miha> i guess debian is even worse

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09:46 <quail> miha: with debian you have 4 chooses, stable, testing, unstable or if you really mad and keen experimental

09:47 <quail> miha: but testing it Debian is the way to go, as it mostly stable

09:47 <quail> s/it/in

09:49 <quail> miha: Debian is not as bad as people make it out to be, if you running testing for example and the a bit of software that is newer in unstable, it very easy to mix and match without major brakage to your system

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09:56 <miha> i guess it wouldnt be too hard. since i'm already hooked onto .deb :D

10:00 <quail> :-)

10:01 <miha> quail and i managed to have working gentoo for over 2 years :D

10:01 <miha> did two gcc upgrades :D

10:02 <miha> i guess i could handle debian :D

10:02 <miha> revdep-rebuild -X :D

10:02 <quail> miha: Debian one the oldest linux distros

10:03 <miha> ammm i knew one older, not seen it in a decade :D

10:03 <miha> my first linux was Yggdrasil Linux .. 1.x kernel :D

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10:03 <miha> then i moved from linux to windows and back a few times... now more strictly on linux for past 4 years

10:05 <quail> CoderForLife: hey Don, Merry Xmas to you and all the Family

10:05 <quail> miha: I will never go back to windows

10:06 <quail> who here uses identi.ca?

10:09 <quail> miha: I started out with linux with Red Hat 5.2

10:09 <quail> I still got the original install disc as a coaster for my drinks, hehe

10:11 <miha> hehe

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10:14 <CoderForLife> thx Dale - same to you and yours

10:14 <CoderForLife> off to mom's house - bbl

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10:25 <hawmps> drink coaster with a big hole in it...

10:25 <hawmps> never good.

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11:13 <Broc93> hello all

11:13 <hawmps> Hi

11:13 <Broc93> I'm a new Boinc user

11:14 <Broc93> I'm contributing to milkyway@home,. but I have a question

11:14 <Tank_Master> ok

11:14 <Broc93> the manager downloaded 4 workunits, and they expire tomorrow

11:14 <Broc93> but, 1 WU takes more than 10 hours

11:14 <Broc93> and I can't leave my pc running boinc 24h/24

11:15 <Tank_Master> it runs one WU per cpu core or 3 per ati card

11:15 <Broc93> so, is possible to download fewer workunits?

11:15 <Tank_Master> what processor do you have?

11:15 <Broc93> intel e2180

11:15 <Tank_Master> single core?

11:16 <Broc93> one of the first dual core

11:16 <Tank_Master> ahh, ok

11:16 <Tank_Master> well, one thing you can try is:

11:16 <Tank_Master> go to your profile on the project

11:17 <Tank_Master> go to Computing preferences

11:17 <Broc93> wait ;)

11:17 <Tank_Master> change your preferences to "connect ever 0 days" and "Maintain enough work for an additional .25 days"

11:18 <Broc93> yes, but....

11:19 <Broc93> even if it doesn't connect, I have to finish 4 wu at a time

11:19 <Broc93> in 3 days

11:19 <Broc93> and it's quite impossible for me ;)

11:19 <Tank_Master> with .25 it should only d/l 2 at a time

11:20 <Tank_Master> but, if you just simply cannot finish the work in time, there are other projects that have longer deadline dates

11:20 <Broc93> yes, the second option is better, I think ;)

11:20 <Broc93> an example?

11:20 <Tank_Master> or you can get a ati gpu, those can do the work in just a few minuets

11:21 <Broc93> na, my nvidia is nice xD

11:21 <Tank_Master> which nvidia is it?

11:22 <Broc93> 9500gt

11:22 <Tank_Master> collatz can run on that

11:22 <Tank_Master> same with seti and gpu grid

11:23 <Broc93> seti is unuseful :P

11:23 <Tank_Master> http://boinc.thesonntags.com/collatz/

11:23 <Romulus> Title: Collatz Conjecture (at boinc.thesonntags.com)

11:23 <Tank_Master> anywho, i g2g.... traveling for xmas to see family

11:23 <Tank_Master> hawmps should be able to help you though

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11:32 <quail> hawmps: lol

11:42 * miha managed to wrap presents for first time ever :D

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11:44 <quail> o.0, <3 gift bags

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13:10 <ELGono> HoHoHo

13:10 <ELGono> merry xmas dudes

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13:12 <miha> merry xmas :D

13:12 <sethy> Merry Christmas to you too

13:12 <sethy> we all tracking santa?

13:15 <sethy> think anyone can help me with phpmyadmin? the cookie auth_type never works when i do it ~.~

13:16 <XmasXcamel> 'lo ElG

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13:57 <miha> [BBC]     Thu, 24 Dec 09 18:51:36 GMT : Police car pelted with snowballs  http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/2/hi/uk_news/england/sussex/8430343.stm

13:57 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/yjwt83e> (at news.bbc.co.uk)

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16:00 <TheJollyRedGiant> &weather ymml

16:00 <Romulus> TheJollyRedGiant: Temperature: 55°F / 13°C | Humidity: 72% | Pressure: 29.98in / 1015hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h | Updated: 7:30 AM EST; Unknown. High:59 F.; Overcast. Low:50 F.; Scattered Clouds. High:69 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:51 F.; Clear. High:77 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:53 F.;

16:01 <Bah_Humbug> &wx 50319

16:01 <Romulus> Bah_Humbug: Temperature: 34.4F / 1.3C | Humidity: 97% | Pressure: 29.74in / 1007.0hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 7.0mph / 11.3km/h ; Rest of Today - Rain changing to freezing rain...snow and sleet in the afternoon. Snow and sleet accumulation of one half inch expected. New ice accumulation up to one tenth of an inch. High in the mid 30s. Temperature (2 more messages)

16:01 <Bah_Humbug> &more

16:01 <Romulus> Bah_Humbug: steady or slowly falling in the afternoon. North wind 5 to 15 mph. Gusts up to 30 mph in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Tonight - Snow and sleet through midnight...then snow after midnight. Areas of blowing snow through the night. Breezy. Snow and sleet accumulation of 4 to 5 inches. Low in the mid 20s. North wind 15 to 25 mph. Chance of precipitation near 100 (1 more message)

16:01 <Bah_Humbug> &more

16:01 <Romulus> Bah_Humbug: percent.; Christmas Day - Snow. Areas of blowing snow. Breezy. Snow accumulation around 3 inches. High in the mid 20s. Temperature steady or slowly falling in the afternoon. West wind 15 to 25 mph. Chance of snow near 100 percent.; Winter Storm Warning for Polk County in effect until 6:00 AM CST on December 26, 2009;

16:03 <efc> moo

16:03 <efc> &wx 30625

16:03 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 52F / 11C | Humidity: 58% | Pressure: 30.02in / 1016hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy with a 30 percent chance of rain in the afternoon. Highs in the mid 50s. East winds 10 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Occasional rain in the evening...then occasional rain with a chance of thunderstorms after midnight. Windy. Lows (1 more message)

16:03 <efc> &more

16:03 <Romulus> efc: in the upper 40s. East winds 15 to 20 mph shifting to the southeast after midnight. Chance of rain near 100 percent.; Christmas Day - Mostly cloudy with a 30 percent chance of rain in the morning...then mostly sunny in the afternoon. Windy. Highs in the mid 50s. Southwest winds 10 to 20 mph.; Wind Advisory for Morgan County in effect until 7:00 AM EST on December 25, 2009;

16:50 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

16:50 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 43.5F / 6.4C | Humidity: 72% | Pressure: 29.65in / 1003.9hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Rain developing...mainly after midnight. Breezy with lows in the lower 40s. East winds 15 to 25 mph. Chance of rain 100 percent.; Christmas Day - Rain. Breezy with highs in the mid 40s. Temperatures falling (1 more message)

16:50 <CoderForLife> &more

16:50 <Romulus> CoderForLife: into the lower 40s in the afternoon. Southeast winds 15 to 25 mph...becoming south 10 to 15 mph in the afternoon. Chance of rain 100 percent.; Friday Night - Mostly cloudy. A chance of snow showers in the evening. Much cooler with lows in the mid 20s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of snow 40 percent.;

16:52 <efc> moo cfl

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16:58 <CoderForLife> moo efc

16:59 <efc> Got another shipment of magnets in to play with

16:59 <efc> They should call them Finger Sharks

17:03 <CoderForLife> PiranaMagnets

17:04 <PovAddict> fun

17:04 <CoderForLife> here's what I would like to see you build  http://www.marty.com.au/images/stories/scifi/wormhole-sci-fi-movie-contact-machine-painting.jpg

17:04 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/yh5aozv> (at www.marty.com.au)

17:06 <miha> http://imgur.com/gallery/RJjap

17:06 <Romulus> Title: imgur: the simple image sharer | Image Gallery (at imgur.com)

17:08 <PovAddict> xD

17:08 <efc> I don't have any large enough to be real killers

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17:13 <efc> CFL: Rides on my machine are $5 or 10 tickets.

17:19 <CoderForLife> any height requirements?  I think I'm not as tall as Scooby-Doo...

17:23 <efc> Height limit is 1 Plank Length

17:24 <PovAddict> maximum?

17:27 <efc> No Exceptions

17:28 <PovAddict> http://imgur.com/gallery/EKWDE xD

17:28 <Romulus> Title: imgur: the simple image sharer | Image Gallery (at imgur.com)

17:39 <CoderForLife> How long are your planks?    I thought for a moment you meant Planck length...

17:39 <CoderForLife> I'm somewhere between a Planck length and a parsec

17:40 <efc> A Parsec in a Planck Treeeeee

17:42 <efc> On the 6.78x10^45'th day of Christmas, my True Love Gave To Me...

17:44 <efc> On the 6780000000000000000000000000000000000000000001th day of Chrismas my True Love Gave To Meeeee..

17:45 * efc grumbles, this song goes on forever

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18:22 <PovAddict> http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs138.snc3/18578_1320788741735_1291300347_30917156_4568199_n.jpg

18:22 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/ylfvlsl> (at photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net)

18:22 <PovAddict> christmas lighting

18:30 <CoderForLife> heh - good one Pov

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19:11 <CoderForLife> But I heard him exclaim, ere he drove out of sight, "Happy Christmas to all, and to all a good-night!"

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19:36 <thasi_> Merry Xmas and Happy New year:)

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21:36 <Bah_Humbug> the HD5870 is cooking 53 seconds for a mw wu :)

21:38 <Bah_Humbug> err 83 seconds

21:46 <Bah_Humbug> &wx 50319

21:46 <Romulus> Bah_Humbug: Temperature: 32.8F / 0.4C | Humidity: 97% | Pressure: 29.59in / 1001.9hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Snow and sleet through midnight...then snow after midnight. Areas of blowing snow through the night. Breezy. New snow and sleet accumulation of 3 to 5 inches. Low in the mid 20s. North wind 15 to 25 mph. (2 more messages)

21:46 <Bah_Humbug> &more

21:46 <Romulus> Bah_Humbug: Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Christmas Day - Areas of blowing snow in the morning. Snow and sleet in the morning...then snow in the afternoon. Breezy. Snow and sleet accumulation of 3 to 4 inches. High around 30. Northwest wind 15 to 20 mph shifting to the west 15 to 25 mph in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Friday Night - Snow likely. Snow (1 more message)

21:46 <Bah_Humbug> &more

21:46 <Romulus> Bah_Humbug: accumulation around 2 inches. Low 15 to 20. South wind 10 to 15 mph shifting to the southwest after midnight. Gusts up to 25 mph. Chance of snow 70 percent.; Winter Storm Warning for Polk County in effect until 6:00 AM CST on December 26, 2009;

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23:21 <Bah_Humbug> But I heard him exclaim, as he drove out of sight, "Bah Humbug to all, and to all a good-night!"

23:21 <Bah_Humbug> http://home.mchsi.com/~d.barker/bah_humbug.gif

23:25 <efc> Night

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