00:12 <efc> mine needs a drop of oil ever year or so
00:17 <PovAddict> A pessimistic programmer will say that a glass is half empty.
00:17 <PovAddict> An optimistic programmer will say that a glass is half full.
00:17 <PovAddict> A Real Programmer® will say that the array is twice as big as it needs to be and call realloc().
00:17 <PovAddict> A salesperson will say "Wait, you call this my glass? This is not my glass! My glass was filled to the brim! And it was a bigger glass!"
00:18 <efc> Bottoms up.
00:21 <PovAddict> wife to programmer: "Buy a stick of butter. If they have eggs, bring 10" He's back w/10 sticks of butter & says "They had eggs"
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08:54 <wdsmia> &wx dsm
08:54 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 29°F / -2°C | Humidity: 89% | Pressure: 30.01in / 1016hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Light Freezing Fog | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. Widespread dense fog in the morning...then areas of fog early in the afternoon. Visibility one quarter mile or less at times in the morning. High in the lower 30s. North wind around 5 mph.; Tonight - (1 more message)
08:54 <wdsmia> &more
08:54 <Romulus> wdsmia: Partly cloudy through midnight then becoming mostly cloudy. Areas of fog. Low in the lower 20s. Northeast wind around 5 mph.; Tuesday - Partly sunny. Areas of fog in the morning. High in the lower 30s. East wind 5 to 10 mph.; Dense Fog Advisory for Polk County in effect until 12:00 PM CST on January 18, 2010;
10:18 <hawmps_> 'lo
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11:50 <RomW> yoyo, are you around?
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11:52 <yoyo[RKN]> yes
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11:53 <RomW> Do you want me to set things up so that the default BOINC localizers can manage RNA's localization efforts?
11:54 <yoyo[RKN]> yes
11:55 <RomW> Can I monkey with anything in that directory structure? It isn't quite right for the standard PO directory structure
11:55 <yoyo[RKN]> yes, sure
11:55 <yoyo[RKN]> wasn't clear fo me which structure is needed
11:55 <RomW> Do you already have an account on BTS?
11:55 <yoyo[RKN]> yes: "yoyo"
11:56 <RomW> Okay, I'm going to promote your account to an admin account so you'll be able to manage permissions as well
12:10 <RomW> Which languages do you want to support?
12:11 <yoyo[RKN]> as much as possible and for which I find volunteer translators
12:12 <RomW> Okay...
12:12 <RomW> Could you sign into BTS and select all the languages as languages you support?
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12:14 <yoyo[RKN]> how, never did it?
12:14 <yoyo[RKN]> ma account - options - my languages?
12:15 <RomW> yes
12:16 <yoyo[RKN]> done
12:22 <RomW> Okay, you should now also be a site admin, which means you can add languages to RNAWorld and change permissions
12:25 <yoyo[RKN]> I see french and german in RNAWorld
12:26 <yoyo[RKN]> how is now the workflow if I have some new message ids which must be translated?
12:27 <yoyo[RKN]> I update the template/RNAWorld-Web.pot in svn?
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12:36 <RomW> yes, then go to the admin pages and update from template after the new template has been downloaded to boinc.berkeley.edu
12:36 <RomW> which happens once an hour
12:38 <RomW> You should send out an announcement email to boinc_loc and see who wants to be on board to help you localize
12:46 <yoyo[RKN]> so you check once per hour for a new template, right?
12:47 <yoyo[RKN]> if somebody translates to french, how and when does it reach my svn?
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13:24 <Proton23> I want to compile a boinc-app. Is it enough to install boinc-dev from repositories or do I have to compile boinc myself including the libraries?
13:26 <Proton23> actually, I tried to link against /usr/include/boinc and the headers are found but boinc_init() throws an error
13:33 <PovAddict> from Debian?
13:33 <Proton23> ubuntu
13:35 <PovAddict> what version of ubuntu?
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13:50 <Proton23> 9.10
13:51 <Proton23> haven't seen your answer :)
13:53 <PovAddict> boinc 6.4.5
13:53 <PovAddict> old...
13:54 <PovAddict> you should always build from source (and from SVN trunk) for the API
13:54 <PovAddict> unless the package is unusually up to date :P
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14:12 <Proton23> thanks a lot :D
14:12 <Proton23> to I need to build it with boinc-server?
14:13 <PovAddict> when you build the BOINC server, the API gets built too
14:16 <Proton23> I'm not sure if I get it
14:16 <Proton23> I want to compile the app on my laptop but the server is somewhere else
14:17 <Proton23> actually it doesn't matter because I already built the hole package :)
14:18 <PovAddict> then on your laptop compile BOINC with --disable-server --disable-client --disable-manager
14:18 * PovAddict wonders whose bright idea it was to enable all by default
14:22 * yomshleeshee has never compiled client or manager
14:22 <yomshleeshee> :-/
14:27 <Proton23> PovAddict: I don't get it. Problem ist still boinc_init()
14:27 <PovAddict> what error do you get?
14:28 <Proton23> main.cpp|22|undefined reference to `boinc_init'|
14:29 <Proton23> do I need a makefile?
14:29 <Proton23> I'm trying to compile it with codeblocks
14:46 <yoyo[RKN]> what is the process boinc_avg_runtime for
14:47 <PovAddict> Proton23: you have to link to the libboinc and libboinc_api libraries too
14:48 <Proton23> ok, going to try that
14:48 <PovAddict> yoyo[RKN]: I have no idea, they made a mess with the MT/GPU stuff :P
14:48 * PovAddict particularly dislikes that the manager shows elapsed time
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14:56 <Proton23> jetzt nicht
14:56 <Proton23> bin in der FH
14:57 <Proton23> du solltest dir mal angewöhnen wichtige und nützlichen Sachen besser wegzulegen
14:58 <Proton23> LOL
14:58 <Proton23> sorry :D
14:59 <Proton23> now I'm getting this message boinc_api.cpp|1147|undefined reference to `pthread_attr_setstacksize'|
15:00 <Proton23> are there some other libs to be linked?
15:00 <PovAddict> add -pthread to the compiler command line args
15:06 <Proton23> is there any chance you know how to do that in codeblocks? :(
15:06 <RomW> @Yoyo, once per hour a crob job is launched that commits all the latest PO files and syncs all the templates. You will see a copy of the bash script in your locale directory. updatetrans.sh
15:07 <RomW> I also forgot to mention that after adding a new language to the RNA World project, you'll need to setup the permissions for the project, they are not automatically copied from other projects...
15:08 <RomW> I'll be helping with that, as I have to go and do an svn add to the new directory structure after it is created for all of this to work correctly..
15:09 <yoyo[RKN]> ok
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15:10 <PovAddict> Proton23: no :)
15:11 <PovAddict> Proton23: the IDE I use compiles the code by running "make", leaving it up to you to write the makefile
15:12 <Proton23> PovAddict: What do you use? :)
15:12 <PovAddict> KDevelop
15:13 <Proton23> heard a lot good of it :)
15:17 <hawmps> hmmm.. the failure rate of seti cuda wu's is creeping up again...
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15:51 <xcamel> 'lo
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17:49 <xcamel> hmmm.. quiet.
17:49 <yomshleeshee> almost too quiet
17:49 <xcamel> at least it has stayed warm out..
17:49 <xcamel> for here in January, anyway.
17:50 <yomshleeshee> here too
17:50 <yomshleeshee> &wx stl
17:50 <Romulus> yomshleeshee: Temperature: 44°F / 7°C | Humidity: 79% | Pressure: 29.97in / 1015hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Haze | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy until early morning then becoming mostly cloudy. Areas of fog early in the evening...then widespread dense fog with visibility one quarter mile or less at times from mid evening through the overnight. Low in the (2 more messages)
17:50 <xcamel> St Louis?
17:50 <yomshleeshee> yep
17:52 <xcamel> nice town.. enjoyed a short stay there once.
17:53 <yomshleeshee> yeah, it's got its perks
17:53 <xcamel> big damn exhibition center...
17:53 <yomshleeshee> download?
17:53 <Romulus> Somebody said download is where the client communicates, yomshleeshee
17:53 <yomshleeshee> *downtown
17:53 <yomshleeshee> thanks Romulus
17:54 <yomshleeshee> if it's what I'm thinking of, I was at an AAS meeting there. was quite big
17:59 <Tank_Master> &wx hio
17:59 <Tank_Master> &more
17:59 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 53°F / 12°C | Humidity: 64% | Pressure: 29.11in / 986hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 13mph / 20km/h ; Tonight - Rain at times. Lows 40 to 45. Southeast wind 10 to 20 mph...except east 15 to 25 mph near The Gorge with gusts to 40 mph.; Tuesday - Rain likely. Highs around 50. Southeast wind 10 to 20 mph...except east 15 to 25 mph near The (1 more message)
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17:59 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Gorge with gusts up to 35 mph.; Tuesday Night - Cloudy. Showers likely in the evening...then a chance of showers after midnight. Lows 35 to 40. Southeast wind 5 to 15 mph...except east 10 to 20 mph near The Gorge.;
17:59 <Tank_Master> forget download
17:59 <Romulus> Gotcha, Tank_Master.
18:00 <wdsmia> &wx dsm
18:00 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 27°F / -3°C | Humidity: 85% | Pressure: 30.01in / 1016hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h ; Tonight - Cloudy. Areas of fog through midnight...then widespread dense fog after midnight. Visibility one quarter mile or less at times after midnight. Low in the lower 20s. East wind near 5 mph.; Tuesday - Cloudy. Widespread dense fog in (2 more messages)
18:00 <wdsmia> &more
18:00 <Romulus> wdsmia: the morning. Visibility one quarter mile or less at times in the morning. High around 30. East wind 5 to 10 mph.; Tuesday Night - Cloudy. A slight chance of light freezing rain through midnight...then a chance of light freezing rain or a slight chance of light sleet after midnight. Low in the upper 20s. East wind 10 to 15 mph. Chance of precipitation 30 percent.; Dense Fog Advisory for Polk (1 more message)
18:00 <wdsmia> &more
18:00 <Romulus> wdsmia: County in effect until 12:00 PM CST on January 19, 2010;
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18:13 <xcamel> dense fog.. sounds like IA
18:17 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
18:17 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 32.7°F / 0.4°C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 29.69in / 1005.3hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Cloudy. Areas of fog. Lows in the upper 20s. Southwest winds around 5 mph.; Tuesday - Areas of fog in the morning. Mostly cloudy. Highs in the lower 40s. West winds around 5 mph.; Tuesday Night - Mostly cloudy. Lows (1 more message)
18:18 <CoderForLife> &more
18:18 <Romulus> CoderForLife: in the lower 30s. North winds around 5 mph.;
18:20 <xcamel> 'lo Don
18:22 <CoderForLife> hi Jay
18:24 <CoderForLife> bbiab - going downstairs to workout - got to start building strength now that I've dropped 111 pounds
18:28 <Tank_Master> congratz
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18:45 <xcamel> wowza.. good for you!
18:54 <xcamel> &wx 12074
18:54 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 34.8°F / 1.6°C | Humidity: 90% | Pressure: 29.92in / 1013.1hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Lows in the mid 20s. Southwest winds around 5 mph this evening...becoming light and variable.; Tuesday - Cloudy. A chance of snow showers in the morning...then a chance of rain or snow showers in the (1 more message)
18:54 <xcamel> &more
18:54 <Romulus> xcamel: afternoon. Highs in the upper 30s. Light and variable winds...becoming south around 5 mph in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation 40 percent.; Tuesday Night - Mostly cloudy with a 30 percent chance of snow showers. Lows in the mid 20s. Light and variable winds...becoming northwest around 5 mph after midnight.;
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20:44 <Romulus> efc: Error: timed out
20:44 <efc> &wx 31088
20:44 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 51°F / 10°C | Humidity: 70% | Pressure: 30.04in / 1017hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Patchy fog after midnight. Lows in the upper 30s. Light and variable winds.; Tuesday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the upper 60s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tuesday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows in the lower 40s. Light and (1 more message)
20:44 <efc> &more
20:44 <Romulus> efc: variable winds.;
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