IRC logs of #boinc for Monday, 2010-01-18

00:12 <efc> mine needs a drop of oil ever year or so

00:17 <PovAddict> A pessimistic programmer will say that a glass is half empty.

00:17 <PovAddict> An optimistic programmer will say that a glass is half full.

00:17 <PovAddict> A Real Programmer® will say that the array is twice as big as it needs to be and call realloc().

00:17 <PovAddict> A salesperson will say "Wait, you call this my glass? This is not my glass! My glass was filled to the brim! And it was a bigger glass!"

00:18 <efc> Bottoms up.

00:21 <PovAddict> wife to programmer: "Buy a stick of butter. If they have eggs, bring 10" He's back w/10 sticks of butter & says "They had eggs"

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08:54 <wdsmia> &wx dsm

08:54 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 29░F / -2░C | Humidity: 89% | Pressure: 30.01in / 1016hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Light Freezing Fog | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. Widespread dense fog in the morning...then areas of fog early in the afternoon. Visibility one quarter mile or less at times in the morning. High in the lower 30s. North wind around 5 mph.; Tonight - (1 more message)

08:54 <wdsmia> &more

08:54 <Romulus> wdsmia: Partly cloudy through midnight then becoming mostly cloudy. Areas of fog. Low in the lower 20s. Northeast wind around 5 mph.; Tuesday - Partly sunny. Areas of fog in the morning. High in the lower 30s. East wind 5 to 10 mph.; Dense Fog Advisory for Polk County in effect until 12:00 PM CST on January 18, 2010;

10:18 <hawmps_> 'lo

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11:50 <RomW> yoyo, are you around?

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11:52 <yoyo[RKN]> yes

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11:53 <RomW> Do you want me to set things up so that the default BOINC localizers can manage RNA's localization efforts?

11:54 <yoyo[RKN]> yes

11:55 <RomW> Can I monkey with anything in that directory structure?  It isn't quite right for the standard PO directory structure

11:55 <yoyo[RKN]> yes, sure

11:55 <yoyo[RKN]> wasn't clear fo me which structure is needed

11:55 <RomW> Do you already have an account on BTS?

11:55 <yoyo[RKN]> yes: "yoyo"

11:56 <RomW> Okay, I'm going to promote your account to an admin account so you'll be able to manage permissions as well

12:10 <RomW> Which languages do you want to support?

12:11 <yoyo[RKN]> as much as possible and for which I find volunteer translators

12:12 <RomW> Okay...

12:12 <RomW> Could you sign into BTS and select all the languages as languages you support?

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12:14 <yoyo[RKN]> how, never did it?

12:14 <yoyo[RKN]> ma account - options - my languages?

12:15 <RomW> yes

12:16 <yoyo[RKN]> done

12:22 <RomW> Okay, you should now also be a site admin, which means you can add languages to RNAWorld and change permissions

12:25 <yoyo[RKN]> I see french and german in RNAWorld

12:26 <yoyo[RKN]> how is now the workflow if I have some new message ids which must be translated?

12:27 <yoyo[RKN]> I update the template/RNAWorld-Web.pot in svn?

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12:36 <RomW> yes, then go to the admin pages and update from template after the new template has been downloaded to boinc.berkeley.edu

12:36 <RomW> which happens once an hour

12:38 <RomW> You should send out an announcement email to boinc_loc and see who wants to be on board to help you localize

12:46 <yoyo[RKN]> so you check once per hour for a new template, right?

12:47 <yoyo[RKN]> if somebody translates to french, how and when does it reach my svn?

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13:24 <Proton23> I want to compile a boinc-app. Is it enough to install boinc-dev from repositories or do I have to compile boinc myself including the libraries?

13:26 <Proton23> actually, I tried to link against /usr/include/boinc and the headers are found but boinc_init() throws an error

13:33 <PovAddict> from Debian?

13:33 <Proton23> ubuntu

13:35 <PovAddict> what version of ubuntu?

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13:50 <Proton23> 9.10

13:51 <Proton23> haven't seen your answer :)

13:53 <PovAddict> boinc 6.4.5

13:53 <PovAddict> old...

13:54 <PovAddict> you should always build from source (and from SVN trunk) for the API

13:54 <PovAddict> unless the package is unusually up to date :P

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14:12 <Proton23> thanks a lot :D

14:12 <Proton23> to I need to build it with boinc-server?

14:13 <PovAddict> when you build the BOINC server, the API gets built too

14:16 <Proton23> I'm not sure if I get it

14:16 <Proton23> I want to compile the app on my laptop but the server is somewhere else

14:17 <Proton23> actually it doesn't matter because I already built the hole package :)

14:18 <PovAddict> then on your laptop compile BOINC with --disable-server --disable-client --disable-manager

14:18 * PovAddict wonders whose bright idea it was to enable all by default

14:22 * yomshleeshee has never compiled client or manager

14:22 <yomshleeshee> :-/

14:27 <Proton23> PovAddict: I don't get it. Problem ist still boinc_init()

14:27 <PovAddict> what error do you get?

14:28 <Proton23> main.cpp|22|undefined reference to `boinc_init'|

14:29 <Proton23> do I need a makefile?

14:29 <Proton23> I'm trying to compile it with codeblocks

14:46 <yoyo[RKN]> what is the process boinc_avg_runtime for

14:47 <PovAddict> Proton23: you have to link to the libboinc and libboinc_api libraries too

14:48 <Proton23> ok, going to try that

14:48 <PovAddict> yoyo[RKN]: I have no idea, they made a mess with the MT/GPU stuff :P

14:48 * PovAddict particularly dislikes that the manager shows elapsed time

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14:56 <Proton23> jetzt nicht

14:56 <Proton23> bin in der FH

14:57 <Proton23> du solltest dir mal angew├Âhnen wichtige und n├╝tzlichen Sachen besser wegzulegen

14:58 <Proton23> LOL

14:58 <Proton23> sorry :D

14:59 <Proton23> now I'm getting this message boinc_api.cpp|1147|undefined reference to `pthread_attr_setstacksize'|

15:00 <Proton23> are there some other libs to be linked?

15:00 <PovAddict> add -pthread to the compiler command line args

15:06 <Proton23> is there any chance you know how to do that in codeblocks? :(

15:06 <RomW> @Yoyo, once per hour a crob job is launched that commits all the latest PO files and syncs all the templates.  You will see a copy of the bash script in your locale directory.  updatetrans.sh

15:07 <RomW> I also forgot to mention that after adding a new language to the RNA World project, you'll need to setup the permissions for the project, they are not automatically copied from other projects...

15:08 <RomW> I'll be helping with that, as I have to go and do an svn add to the new directory structure after it is created for all of this to work correctly..

15:09 <yoyo[RKN]> ok

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15:10 <PovAddict> Proton23: no :)

15:11 <PovAddict> Proton23: the IDE I use compiles the code by running "make", leaving it up to you to write the makefile

15:12 <Proton23> PovAddict: What do you use? :)

15:12 <PovAddict> KDevelop

15:13 <Proton23> heard a lot good of it :)

15:17 <hawmps> hmmm.. the failure rate of seti cuda wu's is creeping up again...

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15:51 <xcamel> 'lo

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17:49 <xcamel> hmmm.. quiet.

17:49 <yomshleeshee> almost too quiet

17:49 <xcamel> at least it has stayed warm out..

17:49 <xcamel> for here in January, anyway.

17:50 <yomshleeshee> here too

17:50 <yomshleeshee> &wx stl

17:50 <Romulus> yomshleeshee: Temperature: 44░F / 7░C | Humidity: 79% | Pressure: 29.97in / 1015hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Haze | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy until early morning then becoming mostly cloudy. Areas of fog early in the evening...then widespread dense fog with visibility one quarter mile or less at times from mid evening through the overnight. Low in the (2 more messages)

17:50 <xcamel> St Louis?

17:50 <yomshleeshee> yep

17:52 <xcamel> nice town.. enjoyed a short stay there once.

17:53 <yomshleeshee> yeah, it's got its perks

17:53 <xcamel> big damn exhibition center...

17:53 <yomshleeshee> download?

17:53 <Romulus> Somebody said download is where the client communicates, yomshleeshee

17:53 <yomshleeshee> *downtown

17:53 <yomshleeshee> thanks Romulus

17:54 <yomshleeshee> if it's what I'm thinking of, I was at an AAS meeting there. was quite big

17:59 <Tank_Master> &wx hio

17:59 <Tank_Master> &more

17:59 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 53░F / 12░C | Humidity: 64% | Pressure: 29.11in / 986hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 13mph / 20km/h ; Tonight - Rain at times. Lows 40 to 45. Southeast wind 10 to 20 mph...except east 15 to 25 mph near The Gorge with gusts to 40 mph.; Tuesday - Rain likely. Highs around 50. Southeast wind 10 to 20 mph...except east 15 to 25 mph near The (1 more message)

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17:59 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Gorge with gusts up to 35 mph.; Tuesday Night - Cloudy. Showers likely in the evening...then a chance of showers after midnight. Lows 35 to 40. Southeast wind 5 to 15 mph...except east 10 to 20 mph near The Gorge.;

17:59 <Tank_Master> forget download

17:59 <Romulus> Gotcha, Tank_Master.

18:00 <wdsmia> &wx dsm

18:00 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 27░F / -3░C | Humidity: 85% | Pressure: 30.01in / 1016hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h ; Tonight - Cloudy. Areas of fog through midnight...then widespread dense fog after midnight. Visibility one quarter mile or less at times after midnight. Low in the lower 20s. East wind near 5 mph.; Tuesday - Cloudy. Widespread dense fog in (2 more messages)

18:00 <wdsmia> &more

18:00 <Romulus> wdsmia: the morning. Visibility one quarter mile or less at times in the morning. High around 30. East wind 5 to 10 mph.; Tuesday Night - Cloudy. A slight chance of light freezing rain through midnight...then a chance of light freezing rain or a slight chance of light sleet after midnight. Low in the upper 20s. East wind 10 to 15 mph. Chance of precipitation 30 percent.; Dense Fog Advisory for Polk (1 more message)

18:00 <wdsmia> &more

18:00 <Romulus> wdsmia: County in effect until 12:00 PM CST on January 19, 2010;

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18:13 <xcamel> dense fog.. sounds like IA

18:17 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

18:17 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 32.7░F / 0.4░C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 29.69in / 1005.3hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Cloudy. Areas of fog. Lows in the upper 20s. Southwest winds around 5 mph.; Tuesday - Areas of fog in the morning. Mostly cloudy. Highs in the lower 40s. West winds around 5 mph.; Tuesday Night - Mostly cloudy. Lows (1 more message)

18:18 <CoderForLife> &more

18:18 <Romulus> CoderForLife: in the lower 30s. North winds around 5 mph.;

18:20 <xcamel> 'lo Don

18:22 <CoderForLife> hi Jay

18:24 <CoderForLife> bbiab - going downstairs to workout - got to start building strength now that I've dropped 111 pounds

18:28 <Tank_Master> congratz

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18:45 <xcamel> wowza.. good for you!

18:54 <xcamel> &wx 12074

18:54 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 34.8░F / 1.6░C | Humidity: 90% | Pressure: 29.92in / 1013.1hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Lows in the mid 20s. Southwest winds around 5 mph this evening...becoming light and variable.; Tuesday - Cloudy. A chance of snow showers in the morning...then a chance of rain or snow showers in the (1 more message)

18:54 <xcamel> &more

18:54 <Romulus> xcamel: afternoon. Highs in the upper 30s. Light and variable winds...becoming south around 5 mph in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation 40 percent.; Tuesday Night - Mostly cloudy with a 30 percent chance of snow showers. Lows in the mid 20s. Light and variable winds...becoming northwest around 5 mph after midnight.;

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20:44 <Romulus> efc: Error: timed out

20:44 <efc> &wx 31088

20:44 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 51░F / 10░C | Humidity: 70% | Pressure: 30.04in / 1017hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Patchy fog after midnight. Lows in the upper 30s. Light and variable winds.; Tuesday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the upper 60s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tuesday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows in the lower 40s. Light and (1 more message)

20:44 <efc> &more

20:44 <Romulus> efc: variable winds.;

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