IRC logs of #boinc for Saturday, 2010-01-23

00:01 <quail> &wx roseworthy ag college

00:01 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 84.0F / 28.9C | Humidity: 35% | Pressure: 29.94in / 1013.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 2.7mph / 4.3km/h ; Clear. High:82 F.; Clear. Low:55 F.; Partly Cloudy. High:87 F.; Partly Cloudy. Low:55 F.; Scattered Clouds. High:96 F.; Clear. Low:60 F.;

00:01 <quail> &wx roseworthy ag college, south australia

00:01 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 84.0F / 28.9C | Humidity: 35% | Pressure: 29.94in / 1013.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 2.7mph / 4.3km/h ; Clear. High:82 F.; Clear. Low:55 F.; Partly Cloudy. High:87 F.; Partly Cloudy. Low:55 F.; Scattered Clouds. High:96 F.; Clear. Low:60 F.;

00:02 <efc> moo

00:16 <quail> meep meep efc

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01:52 <yoyo[RKN]> moin

01:52 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx sxf

01:52 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 12F / -11C | Humidity: 85% | Pressure: 30.42in / 1030hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 12mph / 18km/h ; Partly Cloudy. High:21 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:0 F.; Partly Cloudy. High:19 F.; Chance of Snow. Low:15 F.; Chance of Snow. High:28 F.; Partly Cloudy. Low:15 F.;

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03:18 <dizzie> Moin :)

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03:21 <dizzie> Moin miha :)

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03:25 <yoyo[RKN]> moin, its cold here

03:26 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx sxf

03:26 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 9F / -13C | Humidity: 92% | Pressure: 30.45in / 1031hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Light Snow Grains | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 12mph / 18km/h ; Partly Cloudy. High:21 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:0 F.; Partly Cloudy. High:19 F.; Chance of Snow. Low:15 F.; Chance of Snow. High:28 F.; Partly Cloudy. Low:15 F.;

03:26 <dizzie> 25F here, cold enough :)

03:26 <miha> around 0 C here :D

03:26 <dizzie> -4C that is :)

03:27 <dizzie> The coffee is hot, so i dont care :)

03:28 <miha> :D

03:28 <miha> my cats just find a spot next to heating and sleep there :D

03:29 <miha> they are smarter than humans on several subjects :D

03:30 <dizzie> Mine isnt, its sleeping next to the door out to the garden, where its very cold :)

03:32 <miha> perhaps your cat values freedom over comfort? :D

03:32 <dizzie> Or she is just not the brightest cat :)

03:35 <miha> hehehe, well some arent. they still beg me for food after i put it on plate for them, instead they follow me :D

03:35 <dizzie> Aww :)

03:37 <miha> one of way to tell if cat is smart is if she figures out that water from tap is fresher than water at her food spot :D

03:37 <miha> then she comes to tap and begs you to open it :D

03:37 <dizzie> Funny thing was the first time she "discovered" snow :)

03:38 <miha> :)

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05:51 <miha> hey

06:07 <Proton23> hi :)

06:07 <miha> did you try to mail the lists? :D

06:08 <Proton23> I subscribed, but then I saw sample_work_generator.cpp

06:09 <Proton23> I'm going to make a code walkthrough and if I still don't get it, I'm going to ask

06:10 <miha> cool

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06:32 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

06:32 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 40.8F / 4.9C | Humidity: 92% | Pressure: 29.70in / 1005.6hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Cloudy. Areas of fog this morning. Highs in the lower 50s. Southeast winds 10 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Showers likely with a slight chance of thunderstorms after midnight. Lows in the mid 40s. Southeast (1 more message)

06:32 <CoderForLife> &more

06:32 <Romulus> CoderForLife: winds 15 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 70 percent.; Sunday - Showers with a slight chance of thunderstorms. Highs in the mid 50s. South winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 35 mph. Chance of rain 100 percent.;

06:34 <miha> CoderForLife never thought of career in project managment? :D

06:35 <CoderForLife> hi - me or you?

06:36 <CoderForLife> In my day job, I act as enterprise architect and technology strategist - sort of a "manager of project managers"

06:38 <miha> you :D ok, just joking about your nick :D

06:38 <miha> great!

06:46 <CoderForLife> heh

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06:48 <miha> PM-R-Me i think arhitects must be the elite coders, else everyone is in trouble :D

06:48 <miha> you must guess what will work what will not before actually doing anything, gut feeling, experience

06:48 <miha> ?

06:48 <CoderForLife> those that can't Code manage others that Code

06:48 <miha> CoderForLife that's bad

06:49 <miha> i think arhitect should be part of coding of hardest parts of system

06:49 <CoderForLife> heh

06:49 <miha> trivial stuff, that's for noobs

06:49 <miha> but when everything fails, you bring the heavy machinery?

06:50 <CoderForLife> yeah - it's called a Plan

06:51 <CoderForLife> bbiab - breakfast

06:51 <miha> ok

06:56 <Proton23> miha: Where are you from?

06:56 <miha> slovenia

06:56 <Proton23> ok just asking because of the gut ;)

06:57 * miha was failed student of CS, but perhaps in 2010 wont be failed anymore, hopefully :D

06:57 <miha> 37 out of 40 exams done, 4 years too late :D

06:58 <Proton23> CS?

06:58 <miha> computer science, software engineering course

06:58 <Proton23> computer science?

06:58 <miha> yes

06:58 <Proton23> me too

06:59 <miha> yeah, but you're 23? :D i'm 28 :D

06:59 <Proton23> also 4 years late :D

06:59 <Proton23> no

06:59 <Proton23> it's just my favourite number ;)

06:59 <Proton23> Proton was already taken

07:00 <miha> now i soon need to choose graduation work. for my favourite lab, they say one option is to take any opensource program and upgrade it - thinking :D

07:01 <Proton23> I started my studio at age 26 I have worked before

07:01 <Proton23> please don't ask why it took me so long :D

07:01 <miha> i'm kind of freelancer for few micro companies, not sure if i want my own

07:02 <miha> mostly webpages in php, sometimes some java

07:03 <Proton23> I don't know why but I don't like Java

07:03 <miha> dunno, i do like it

07:03 <miha> typically i get design as photoshop, i code html/css template and join it with CMS backend

07:03 <Proton23> a lot of people do :D

07:03 <Proton23> witch CMS do you use?

07:04 <miha> if i can, my own

07:04 <miha> if they want others, so be it

07:05 <Proton23> ever work with drupal?

07:05 <dizzie> I have :)

07:05 <dizzie> Hello btw :)

07:05 <miha> nope, i tried a bit of typo3

07:05 <Proton23> Dizzie: Hi :)

07:05 <miha> i can set template mapping and insert some php code. strangely my ajax code doesnt seem to work with typo3, bastards :D

07:05 <dizzie> Why do you need a CMS in the first place ? Mind me asking

07:06 <dizzie> typo3 is not for humans miha :)

07:06 <dizzie> What are you? an alien ? =)

07:06 <Proton23> :D

07:06 <miha> haha, it's for germans. if i spoke german, i'd even have good docs

07:06 <miha> english are somehow lacking

07:06 <miha> :D

07:07 <Proton23> typo3 is for germans?

07:07 <dizzie> for speed drupal for eyecandy i use e17 or joomla

07:07 <miha> dizzie ministry of defence uses typo3, so does goverment, so people think it's cool. i do what they want to pay me to do

07:07 <dizzie> i disagree, and i agree with you :)

07:07 <miha> hehe

07:07 <dizzie> typo3 is a hype

07:07 <miha> whitehouse.gov is on drupal, i hear

07:08 <Proton23> miha: that's right

07:08 <dizzie> drupal is fast and a no BS cms

07:08 <miha> well i did my cms a bit differently

07:08 <miha> to suit my taste

07:08 <Proton23> open source ist great :D

07:08 <miha> i started with url to database logic, just data, not GUI

07:08 <dizzie> for my personal site, i use wordpress :) cant be bothered with a csm, when wordpress suit my needs :)

07:09 <miha> so when i set new webpage, i just copy paste and modify the html generating code

07:09 <miha> data is mostly the same

07:09 <miha> wordpress is too complicated

07:09 <miha> i like it to have data chunks as php variables/functions

07:09 <miha> then i change just how html is done

07:09 <miha> which is 10% of overall owrk

07:09 <dizzie> for blogging and sharing pictures it isnt :)

07:09 <miha> work

07:10 <miha> everyone wants its unique design. i just wanted an easy way for me to honour their wishes

07:10 <Proton23> I'd like to chat, but if I wanna finish studio I need to get to work ;)

07:10 <miha> i develop 10% of code just for them and copypaste all the rest

07:10 <miha> Proton23 take care

07:10 <dizzie> i refuse to install eyecandy :)

07:11 <dizzie> Take care Proton

07:11 <Proton23> miha: I will stay in this channel because my work is about BOINC but I can't chat a lot

07:11 <miha> ok

07:12 <miha> Proton23 thought of writing a good tutorial for rest of us?

07:12 <dizzie> We'll pretend you arent here then ? :)

07:12 <Proton23> dizzie: Thanks ;)

07:12 <miha> Proton23 just a bit of your notes and links you used to get there?

07:12 <dizzie> Hehe

07:13 <dizzie> &weather aal

07:13 <Romulus> dizzie: Temperature: 29F / -1C | Humidity: 73% | Pressure: 30.49in / 1032hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 17mph / 28km/h ; Partly Cloudy. High:30 F.; Overcast. Low:22 F.; Partly Cloudy. High:28 F.; Partly Cloudy. Low:21 F.; Partly Cloudy. High:30 F.; Partly Cloudy. Low:19 F.;

07:13 <Proton23> miha: Sure, if I find out something that could help

07:13 <dizzie> &weather aar

07:13 <Romulus> dizzie: Temperature: 29F / -1C | Humidity: 73% | Pressure: 30.49in / 1032hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 14mph / 22km/h ; Overcast. High:28 F.; Overcast. Low:22 F.; Overcast. High:30 F.; Overcast. Low:24 F.; Partly Cloudy. High:30 F.; Overcast. Low:21 F.;

07:14 <miha> Proton23 thx

07:16 <miha> i like for example this document to explain what http client is all about http://hc.apache.org/httpcomponents-client/primer.html  "The existence of this document does not imply that the HttpClient community feels responsible for teaching you how to program a client HTTP application. It is merely a way for us to reduce the noise on the mailing list without just leaving the newbies out in the cold."

07:16 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/yg8fuz6> (at hc.apache.org)

07:20 <dizzie> I need to do some shopping :)

07:21 <dizzie> ttfn :)

08:00 <Proton23> quick question: After BOINC computed an work unit, does it write it to disk in out.txt bevor sending to server or is it send immediatly?

08:00 <Tank_Master> should write to desk

08:01 <Proton23> do you mean HD by desk?

08:01 <Tank_Master> BOINC sends the output file, wouldnt do much good if it wasnt saved yet

08:01 <Tank_Master> disk*

08:01 <Proton23> ok :)

08:02 <Proton23> thanks

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08:16 <wdsmia> &wx dsm

08:16 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 36F / 2C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 29.56in / 1001hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 17mph / 28km/h ; Today - Breezy. Areas of fog in the morning. Rain and isolated thunderstorms in the morning...then rain likely in the afternoon. High around 40. Southeast wind 10 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph. Chance of precipitation near 100 (2 more messages)

08:16 <wdsmia> &more

08:16 <Romulus> wdsmia: percent.; Tonight - Cloudy. Areas of drizzle or a slight chance of light rain in the evening...then a chance of light rain or areas of drizzle before midnight. Low around 30. Southwest wind near 5 mph increasing to northwest 10 to 15 mph with gusts to around 25 mph after midnight. Chance of rain 40 percent.; Sunday - Cloudy. A 20 percent chance of light snow in the afternoon. Breezy. High in (1 more message)

08:16 <wdsmia> &more

08:16 <Romulus> wdsmia: the mid 30s. West wind 10 to 20 mph.;

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08:32 <xcamel> 'lo

08:44 <CoderForLife> hey

08:53 <wdsmia> mornin

08:54 <xcamel> got down to around 8 last night..

08:54 <xcamel> everything very "frosty"

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09:00 <xcamel> longer range forecast looks a little testy.

09:00 <xcamel> &wx 12074

09:00 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 10.8F / -11.8C | Humidity: 90% | Pressure: 30.46in / 1031.4hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Sunny. The high in the lower 30s. North winds around 5 mph this morning...becoming light and variable.; Tonight - Mostly clear in the evening...then becoming partly cloudy. The low in the lower 20s. Light and variable (1 more message)

09:00 <xcamel> &more

09:00 <Romulus> xcamel: winds...becoming southeast around 5 mph after midnight.; Sunday - Partly sunny in the morning...then mostly cloudy with a chance of rain showers in the afternoon. The high around 40. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.;

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09:07 <CoderForLife> The local independent weather guy said yesterday "there is a potentially significant winter storm expected for late next week and our models are showing plenty of snow. "

09:08 <CoderForLife> Right after I get back from Dallas I reckon

09:09 <CoderForLife> I fly down on Monday morning and back on Wednesday night

09:14 <xcamel> you might miss it...

09:15 <xcamel> The models I was looking at weren't in agreement on anything beyond tuesday

09:33 <CoderForLife> it would be difficult if I wasn't here to deal with it

09:35 <xcamel> I hear ya..

09:36 <CoderForLife> &wx dfw

09:36 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 57F / 14C | Humidity: 64% | Pressure: 29.61in / 1002hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h ; Today - Cloudy. A chance of showers and perhaps an isolated thunderstorm in the morning...then showers and thunderstorms likely in the afternoon. Highs in the upper 60s. South winds 5 to 10 mph becoming southwest 10 to 15 mph in the (1 more message)

09:36 <CoderForLife> &more

09:36 <Romulus> CoderForLife: afternoon. Chance of rain 60 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a 20 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms in the evening...then partly cloudy after midnight. Lows in the mid 40s. West winds 10 to 15 mph.; Sunday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the lower 60s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph.;

09:36 <dizzie> Moin :)

09:36 <CoderForLife> hey dizzie =)

09:36 <dizzie> Hello

09:37 <CoderForLife> I'll be at the Westin DFW Monday thru Wednesday

09:37 <xcamel> wb diz

09:38 <xcamel> fair chance of t-storms here on monday...

09:38 <CoderForLife> that should add some drama to the flight in

09:39 <CoderForLife> with the weight loss, the drama as to whether I'll be able to get the seat belt fastened without an extension has been removed

09:39 <CoderForLife> so I'm looking for some replacement excitement

09:40 <CoderForLife> well - time to get to the grocery store and the usual Sat morning errands

09:40 <CoderForLife> laterz

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09:56 <xcamel> at least the temp is rising quickly

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11:55 <xcamel> from 9 when I got up to 26 already..

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12:40 <wdsmia> Dishwasher fixed :)

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14:41 <xcamel> why did you break it?

14:43 <wdsmia> had to replace pump and motor,  nice to have it back... now I can stop eating off paper plates

14:44 <miha> wdsmia congrats

14:46 <xcamel> ahh.. I see..

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16:27 <yoyo[RKN]> re

16:28 <yoyo[RKN]> &wx sxf

16:28 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 7F / -14C | Humidity: 85% | Pressure: 30.45in / 1031hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h ; Partly Cloudy. High:21 F.; Scattered Clouds. Low:15 F.; Partly Cloudy. High:28 F.; Partly Cloudy. Low:13 F.; Chance of Snow. High:30 F.; Chance of Snow. Low:4 F.;

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21:59 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

21:59 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 46.0F / 7.8C | Humidity: 89% | Pressure: 29.46in / 997.5hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Overnight - Cloudy. Showers developing late. Near steady temperatures in the upper 40s. Southeast winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 80 percent.; Sunday - Showers with a slight chance of thunderstorms in the morning...then a (1 more message)

22:02 <efc> moo cfl

22:15 <CoderForLife> moo efc

22:15 <CoderForLife> &more

22:15 <Romulus> CoderForLife: chance of showers in the afternoon. Highs in the mid 50s. South winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 35 mph. Chance of rain 100 percent.; Sunday Night - Cloudy. A 20 percent chance of showers in the evening. Cooler with lows in the mid 30s. West winds 10 to 15 mph.;

22:15 <CoderForLife> rain is coming later than I thought

22:15 <CoderForLife> well - off to bed

22:15 <CoderForLife> gn boincsters

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23:27 <zombie67> net split

23:48 <efc> Nuclear Launch Detected..

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